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Old 01-06-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default whr-hp-g54 wireless bridge

I have been trying to setup a wireless bridge with two whr-hp-g54
routers. I have flashed both routers with dd-wrt.v23_generic
firmware.Does anybody have instructions on setting up these model of
routers.
Thank You.

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Old 01-06-2007, 11:45 PM
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I have been following these instructions and have checked my settings
five times but cannont ping 192.168.1.1 gateway.
The host router has a working wireless connection, all wireless
security is turned off on both routers. The firewall on client router
is turned off.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php...router_network

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Old 01-07-2007, 05:44 AM
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:26:27 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

>d11@anywhere.com hath wroth:
>
>>I have been trying to setup a wireless bridge with two whr-hp-g54
>>routers.

>
>Good units for the purpose. Did you test them BEFORE you flashed them
>with new firmware? Did the flash update succeed?
>Yes. I connected both routers to cable internet (time Warner) before flashing.

Yes the flash succeed on both routers.I got a flash succeed in 30
seconds message for host router and 32 seconds for client router.
>>I have flashed both routers with dd-wrt.v23_generic
>>firmware.

>My mistake for not giving all the information. It is .v23 Standard + SP2 but i was not careful enough

to explain that.
>That's nice. You should be using "standard" SP2 at:
><http://dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/down.php?path=downloads%2Fdd-wrt.v23+SP2/>
>
>>Does anybody have instructions on setting up these model of
>>routers.

>
>Sure. However, you're not ready for setup. Try flashing them with
>the correct firmware first. See instructions specific to Buffalo at:
><http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Buffalo_WHR-G54S.2C_WHR-HP-G54.2C_WZR-HP-G54.2C_and_WZR-RS-G54>
>Read the instructions about 3 times. If you skimmed them, read them
>again until you catch all the little tricks. Then, there's one more.
>If you do the TFTP flash update as the instructions suggest, do NOT
>immediately hit <enter> after applying power to start the TFTP upload.
>You'll get an error message and a failed upload. Wait about 3 seconds
>(no more than 3) after applying power. Also, when you think it's
>done, go away for a minute or two, before trying to use the router.
>Sometimes, I have to cycle the power.
>
>As for not being able to connect at 192.168.1.1, try 192.168.11.1 and
>if you're lucky, you'll probably find your original Buffalo firmware.


I read those instructions for a day and it still took me another day
to correctly flash both routers. I finally got routers flashed by this
method.

" When you start the tftp and plug the router in, the NIC doesn't
detect media until after the tftp flash window has passed, so 60
seconds later the tftp times out and the router boots normally. If so,
don't unplug the router. Get your tftp ready, hold down the Init
(Reset) button on the router, with the Init held down and the Diag
blinking, start tftp and immediately release the Init button. You'll
never get the 'Cable Disconnected' errors, and it should flash right
up." I used this method on both routers.

I have not tried to put the client router on the net by itself "after
flashing" with DD-wrt.v23 standard +SP2.

The host router is on the net and runs great with DD-wrt. v23
standard + SP2. I will go over to where the routers are tomorrow and
put the client router on net by it self to check it.

Thank You for your time and your help. It is really appreciated.

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Old 01-07-2007, 07:57 PM
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:44:42 -0800, d11@anywhere.com wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:26:27 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
><jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>
>>d11@anywhere.com hath wroth:
>>
>>>I have been trying to setup a wireless bridge with two whr-hp-g54
>>>routers.

>>
>>Good units for the purpose. Did you test them BEFORE you flashed them
>>with new firmware? Did the flash update succeed?
>>Yes. I connected both routers to cable internet (time Warner) before flashing.

> Yes the flash succeed on both routers.I got a flash succeed in 30
>seconds message for host router and 32 seconds for client router.
>>>I have flashed both routers with dd-wrt.v23_generic
>>>firmware.

>>My mistake for not giving all the information. It is .v23 Standard + SP2 but i was not careful enough

>to explain that.
>>That's nice. You should be using "standard" SP2 at:
>><http://dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/down.php?path=downloads%2Fdd-wrt.v23+SP2/>
>>
>>>Does anybody have instructions on setting up these model of
>>>routers.

>>
>>Sure. However, you're not ready for setup. Try flashing them with
>>the correct firmware first. See instructions specific to Buffalo at:
>><http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Buffalo_WHR-G54S.2C_WHR-HP-G54.2C_WZR-HP-G54.2C_and_WZR-RS-G54>
>>Read the instructions about 3 times. If you skimmed them, read them
>>again until you catch all the little tricks. Then, there's one more.
>>If you do the TFTP flash update as the instructions suggest, do NOT
>>immediately hit <enter> after applying power to start the TFTP upload.
>>You'll get an error message and a failed upload. Wait about 3 seconds
>>(no more than 3) after applying power. Also, when you think it's
>>done, go away for a minute or two, before trying to use the router.
>>Sometimes, I have to cycle the power.
>>
>>As for not being able to connect at 192.168.1.1, try 192.168.11.1 and
>>if you're lucky, you'll probably find your original Buffalo firmware.

>
>I read those instructions for a day and it still took me another day
>to correctly flash both routers. I finally got routers flashed by this
>method.
>
>" When you start the tftp and plug the router in, the NIC doesn't
>detect media until after the tftp flash window has passed, so 60
>seconds later the tftp times out and the router boots normally. If so,
>don't unplug the router. Get your tftp ready, hold down the Init
>(Reset) button on the router, with the Init held down and the Diag
>blinking, start tftp and immediately release the Init button. You'll
>never get the 'Cable Disconnected' errors, and it should flash right
>up." I used this method on both routers.
>
>I have not tried to put the client router on the net by itself "after
>flashing" with DD-wrt.v23 standard +SP2.
>
> The host router is on the net and runs great with DD-wrt. v23
>standard + SP2. I will go over to where the routers are tomorrow and
>put the client router on net by it self to check it.
>
>Thank You for your time and your help. It is really appreciated.

Well I cannot get internet connectivity wired or wireless with the
second router. Should I try flashing back to buffalo factory revert.

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Old 01-07-2007, 08:55 PM
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d11@anywhere.com hath wroth:

>Well I cannot get internet connectivity wired or wireless with the
>second router. Should I try flashing back to buffalo factory revert.


Did it have connectivity with the Buffalo firmware?
Are all the ethernet cables in the right holes? (A common problem).
Did you do a grand reset after flashing? Sometimes this helps.
If at&t DSL, did you remember your PPPoE login and password?

We'd be happy to help, but merely announcing that it doesn't work
doesn't offer much information to work with. Some clue as to how you
have it arranged will be required. Also, do your troubleshooting with
a wired ethernet connection to the computah. Wireless can come later.

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:45 PM
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:55:31 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

>d11@anywhere.com hath wroth:
>
>>Well I cannot get internet connectivity wired or wireless with the
>>second router. Should I try flashing back to buffalo factory revert.

>
>Did it have connectivity with the Buffalo firmware?

Yes.
>Are all the ethernet cables in the right holes? (A common problem).

Yes
>Did you do a grand reset after flashing? Sometimes this helps.

I am not sure what you mean by Grand reset.
>If at&t DSL, did you remember your PPPoE login and password?
>Service provider is time warner formerly comcast.

After restting cable modem and router I am able to connect to web
using dd-wrt.v23_sp2_standard firmware.

>We'd be happy to help, but merely announcing that it doesn't work
>doesn't offer much information to work with. Some clue as to how you
>have it arranged will be required. Also, do your troubleshooting with
>a wired ethernet connection to the computah. Wireless can come later.


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Old 01-11-2007, 08:05 PM
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> d11@anywhere.com hath wroth:
>
> >Well I cannot get internet connectivity wired or wireless with the
> >second router. Should I try flashing back to buffalo factory revert.

>
> Did it have connectivity with the Buffalo firmware?
> Are all the ethernet cables in the right holes? (A common problem).
> Did you do a grand reset after flashing? Sometimes this helps.
> If at&t DSL, did you remember your PPPoE login and password?
>
> We'd be happy to help, but merely announcing that it doesn't work
> doesn't offer much information to work with. Some clue as to how you
> have it arranged will be required. Also, do your troubleshooting with
> a wired ethernet connection to the computah. Wireless can come later.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


I have an office at the back of my property and have a cable connection
for internet access. I've connected a Buffalo wireless router model
whr-hp-g54 so that I can connect in the house. However, the signal in
the house where the computer is is very low and keeps disconnecting.

How do I set up a second router as a wireless bridge. The second router
will be exactly the same as the first Buffalo. The house computer has
USB Client wireless device model WLI-U2KG54A1.

It is about 132 feet to the house. There is a direct line of sight to
an upstairs window clear of bushes and trees.

Have I given you enough information???

Oh yes, the Buffalo router was flashed with ddwrt ver 23 s.p.2
standard.

How do I build a bridge in the upstairs so I can get a decent signal
downstairs where the computer is located (which is at the front of the
house ... direct line the signal has to go through three walls).


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Old 01-12-2007, 12:00 AM
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tdsslster@gmail.com hath wroth:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> d11@anywhere.com hath wroth:
>>
>> >Well I cannot get internet connectivity wired or wireless with the
>> >second router. Should I try flashing back to buffalo factory revert.

>>
>> Did it have connectivity with the Buffalo firmware?
>> Are all the ethernet cables in the right holes? (A common problem).
>> Did you do a grand reset after flashing? Sometimes this helps.
>> If at&t DSL, did you remember your PPPoE login and password?
>>
>> We'd be happy to help, but merely announcing that it doesn't work
>> doesn't offer much information to work with. Some clue as to how you
>> have it arranged will be required. Also, do your troubleshooting with
>> a wired ethernet connection to the computah. Wireless can come later.


Apology: I'm trying to pass a kidney stone and feeling a bit better
than lousy. Brain, logic, and spelling may not be too wonderful.

There are several ways to do this. I strongly suggest you stay with
DD-WRT v23 sp2. In order of my preferences:

1. Install a better antenna or reflector on the WHR-HP-G54 in the
back. Aiming more RF in the direction of the house, instead of
directions where it doesn't need to go will be a big help. For
reflectors see:
<http://www.freeantennas.com>
132 ft should work, but not if it has to go through walls. You might
also consider something else instead of the current client radio. To
see if a replacement might help, try walking around the house with a
known working laptop and determine the signal levels with Netstumbler.
If the laptop shows good signal, a different client radio is in order.

2. Relocate the existing WLIU2KG54AI with a longer USB cable to offer
better line of sight to the back WHR-HP-G54.
<http://www.buffalotech.com/products/wireless/wireless-g/wireless-g-keychain-usb-20-adapter-with-auto-installation/>
Officially, you can use a total of 5 meters of USB cables, but I've
gone much farther without problems. USB hubs and amplified USB cables
will also work. This USB radio has a very small low gain antenna in
order to fit inside the small package. Something with a bigger
antenna will work much better.

2. Setup a 2nd WHR-HP-G54 as a wireless client. Remove the existing
USB WLIU2KG54AI and run a CAT5 cable to the new WHR-HP-G54.

3. Setup a 2nd WHR-HP-G54 as a WDS bridge somewhere in the house. It
would need good line of sight to both the back router and the client
computer. With WDS, the new WHR-HP-G54 will act as both a bridge to
the back radio, and as an access point for client connections. In
effect, it's a repeater and a client at the same time.

However, with WDS and all repeaters, there is a 50% maximum speed
reduction for all wireless connections to the 2nd WHR-HP-G54. If you
run CAT5 from the computer instead of using the WLIU2KG54AI, you don't
have this loss. It's also important for this to be a 2nd WHR-HP-G54
with DD-WRT as this is the only combination that does WPA with WDS.
Other WDS implimentations only do WEP.

4. If you have a common phone line or power line between the two
buildings, think about using power line or phone line networking:
http://www.homeplug.com
http://www.homePNA.com
Also, you can piggyback 10baseT on a CATV coax cable.
<http://www.multilet.com>
Is there a common coax cable between buildings?

5. Setup the WHR-HP-G54 as a repeater. I hate repeaters.

6. Whatever else I forgot.

>I have an office at the back of my property and have a cable connection
>for internet access. I've connected a Buffalo wireless router model
>whr-hp-g54 so that I can connect in the house. However, the signal in
>the house where the computer is is very low and keeps disconnecting.
>
>How do I set up a second router as a wireless bridge. The second router
>will be exactly the same as the first Buffalo.


The setup varies depending on whether you configure the 2nd router as
a client ethernet bridge, WDS bridge, or simple repeater. Can I be
lazy and not go into all these setups? The WDS bridge is the most
complicated. See the DD-WRT wiki at:
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>
For WDS setup, see:
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WDS_Linked_router_network>
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WDS_Point_To_Point_%28P2P%29>

For client mode, see:
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Client_Mode_Wireless>

etc...

>The house computer has
>USB Client wireless device model WLI-U2KG54A1.


Close. Try:
WLI-U2-KG54-AI

>It is about 132 feet to the house. There is a direct line of sight to
>an upstairs window clear of bushes and trees.
>
>Have I given you enough information???


Yep. The number of walls and construction that the signal needs to
penetrate would be helpful. Also if there is anything in the window
that might cause problems (metal screening, aluminized mylar heat
refelctors, metal glass pane frames, etc). In general, I like to see
numbers, not descriptions. I would never have guessed your problem or
setup from the original posting. More generally:
1. What are you trying to accomplish?
2. What do you have to work with?

>Oh yes, the Buffalo router was flashed with ddwrt ver 23 s.p.2
>standard.


Good.

>How do I build a bridge in the upstairs so I can get a decent signal
>downstairs where the computer is located (which is at the front of the
>house ... direct line the signal has to go through three walls).


Oh, now you mention 3 walls. At 132 ft, I don't think you have a
chance to make this work directly. A repeater or 2nd WHR-HP-G54 will
probably necessary. However, I would still run some experiments to
see if a better client radio or better antennas will work.

Now, I'm going to roll over and play dead for a while.

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