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Old 09-28-2005, 03:52 PM
apngss@yahoo.com
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Default Why IP address is fixed everytime connected to the Internet?

I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
router?

It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
computers more easily.

I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
connect to the Internet should have different IP address.

Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?

Please advise. thanks!!


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Old 09-28-2005, 03:59 PM
Ian
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apngss@yahoo.com wrote:
> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
> router?
>
> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
> computers more easily.
>
> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>
> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>
> Please advise. thanks!!
>

Nice crossposting!

Your ISP is assigning your Internet IP Address - You need a static
address if you are:
Hosting a mailserver
Hosting a website
Providing Dialin Access (VPN)

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Old 09-28-2005, 04:06 PM
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On 28 Sep 2005 07:52:23 -0700, apngss@yahoo.com wrote:
> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
> router?


Your ISP.


> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
> computers more easily.


Cracker is not going to trust that is fixed. They will have code to
scan ip addresses so trying keep the ip address a secret is a waste of time.


> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.


Your ISP decides if static or not and if dynamic, IP addy lease time.

> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?


If dynamic, you would have to stay off the net for the dhcp lease
time. Mine is 5 days before it expires. I would then have to wait for
another customer on my segment to let their lease expire and get my ip
or a new customer comes on line and gets my ip addy.

That is a waste of time.

Just set your firewall to block all incomming connections, do not run
browsers and whatnot as root, check everyday for updates from your
linux vendor and you will be supprised how safe you are.


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Old 09-28-2005, 04:08 PM
Ted Zieglar
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Default Re: Why IP address is fixed everytime connected to the Internet?

"I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to the
Internet?"
Your ISP

"Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?"
Ask your ISP.

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"You can do it if you try."

<apngss@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127919143.509475.156310@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
> router?
>
> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
> computers more easily.
>
> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>
> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>
> Please advise. thanks!!
>



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Old 09-28-2005, 05:33 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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On 28 Sep 2005 07:52:23 -0700, apngss@yahoo.com wrote:

5 newsgroups crossposted. I guess a shotgun is more effective at
target practice.

>I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
>the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
>router?


The limited supply of IP addresses were originally assigned by the net
gods. Through a covenant with various governments, the IANA was
empowered to distribute these IP's to the various ISP's in accordance
to an ordeal process which includes much petitioning, grovelling,
begging, and the inscription of forms. Your ISP then delivers unto
the multitudes a single IP address, which you are entitled to borrow
for the duration of your connection. Be thankful that they even have
IP's to give out.

>It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
>Internet,


Better to have it fixed than to have it broken.

> it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
>computers more easily.


No problem. Dive into your router and change the MAC address on the
"Clone MAC address" page. You can select almost any number you find
useful except that of the ISP gateway. Every time your change your
MAC address, disconnect, and reconnect, you'll get a new IP address.
Of course, this will drive your ISP's logs up the wall and suggest
that you're doing something evil and nefarious such as trying to hide
your tracks as a spammist. It will also cause him to perhaps run out
of available IP's as your previous IP addresses won't expire for quite
some time. Be prepared to get yelled at by your ISP.

>I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
>connect to the Internet should have different IP address.


It can be. Some ISP's do that. However, it's usually not because
they are trying to enhance your security. It's because they simply
don't have enough IP's to handle all their customers and recycle them
often to other users. The limiting factor is the duration of the ARP
cache, which maps your MAC address to your IP address. You can see it
in Windoze if you run:
Start -> Run -> cmd<enter>
arp -a
Ping a few boxes and watch the numbers appear and disappear. To keep
the IP's stable, most ISP's run their ARP cache timeout at least 24
hours or more.

>Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>
>Please advise. thanks!!


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Old 09-28-2005, 06:16 PM
James Knott
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apngss@yahoo.com wrote:

> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
> router?
>
> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
> computers more easily.
>
> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>
> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?


The IP address is assigned by the ISP. Normally, with DHCP, you "own" the
address for the duration of the lease time. Part way through the lease,
your computer (or router) will attempt to renew the address. This means
that as long as you stay connected, you will likely retain the same
address. Your computer caches the address, so that if you turn it off and
later, back on, it will request the same address, if available. You might
be able to get a new address, if you release the IP and then get another
address, however that may not always work, as your ISP may also cache the
IP & MAC address pair, for at least the duration of the lease. If that's
the case, your only options for forcing a change, is to change the MAC
address of your hardware, or leave your equipment turned off long enough
for the lease to expire and the address be assigned to someone else.



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Old 09-28-2005, 06:19 PM
James Knott
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> No problem. Dive into your router and change the MAC address on the
> "Clone MAC address" page. You can select almost any number you find
> useful except that of the ISP gateway.


Or one that's in use by someone else connected to the same ISP. Duplicate
MACs are a no-no.



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Old 09-28-2005, 06:46 PM
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Your ISP assigns it and it is not unusual to have the same IP for a long
time. Protect your computer/network with a properly configured firewall and
don't worry about it. Then take other steps as outlined in the link below
to protect your network as they are all important no matter what IP you have
or even if it changed daily. --- Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...2/Default.mspx
--- Protect your PC tips from Microsoft.

<apngss@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127919143.509475.156310@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
> router?
>
> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
> computers more easily.
>
> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>
> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>
> Please advise. thanks!!
>




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Old 09-28-2005, 09:16 PM
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Steven L Umbach wrote:

> --- Protect your PC tips from Microsoft.


Tip #1 Forget Windows. ;-)


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Old 09-28-2005, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Why IP address is fixed everytime connected to the Internet?

In comp.os.linux.networking Steven L Umbach <n9rou@nospam-comcast.net>:
> Your ISP assigns it and it is not unusual to have the same IP for a long
> time. Protect your computer/network with a properly configured firewall and


Ack.

[..]

> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...2/Default.mspx
> --- Protect your PC tips from Microsoft.


Shouldn't that be, protect your PC from Microsoft? Good idea to
enhance security.;)

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Old 09-28-2005, 09:46 PM
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:59:09 +0100, Ian <gruntyonline@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>apngss@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
>> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
>> router?
>>
>> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
>> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
>> computers more easily.
>>
>> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
>> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>>
>> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>>
>> Please advise. thanks!!
>>

>Nice crossposting!
>
>Your ISP is assigning your Internet IP Address - You need a static
>address if you are:
>Hosting a mailserver
>Hosting a website
>Providing Dialin Access (VPN)


No, you don't. no-ip, dyndns and similar services allow you to do all
of the above with dynamic IPs.

mike

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Old 09-28-2005, 11:37 PM
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"Mike Preston" <mbpatpas@pacbell.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:433b00dd.265858143@news.INDIVIDUAL.NET...

>>Your ISP is assigning your Internet IP Address - You need a static
>>address if you are:
>>Hosting a mailserver
>>Hosting a website
>>Providing Dialin Access (VPN)


> No, you don't. no-ip, dyndns and similar services allow you to do all
> of the above with dynamic IPs.


For hosting a mail server?! Surely you are joking.

DS



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Old 09-29-2005, 12:06 AM
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:19:22 -0400, James Knott
<james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> No problem. Dive into your router and change the MAC address on the
>> "Clone MAC address" page. You can select almost any number you find
>> useful except that of the ISP gateway.


>Or one that's in use by someone else connected to the same ISP. Duplicate
>MACs are a no-no.


True. However, it happens often enough that many ISP's use the MAC
address for RADIUS authentication. If the MAC address is duplicated,
authentication fails. However, you're right. It will cause havoc if
the user picks a duplicated address. The chances of that happening
are small, but possible.




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Old 09-29-2005, 12:54 AM
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:37:42 -0700, "David Schwartz"
<davids@webmaster.com> wrote:

>
>"Mike Preston" <mbpatpas@pacbell.net.invalid> wrote in message
>news:433b00dd.265858143@news.INDIVIDUAL.NET...
>
>>>Your ISP is assigning your Internet IP Address - You need a static
>>>address if you are:
>>>Hosting a mailserver
>>>Hosting a website
>>>Providing Dialin Access (VPN)

>
>> No, you don't. no-ip, dyndns and similar services allow you to do all
>> of the above with dynamic IPs.

>
> For hosting a mail server?! Surely you are joking.


Not in the slightest. I've had 100% uptime (where I haven't disabled
the server for my own purposes and acquired a new dynamic IP in the
process, or changed my non-dynamic IP) for over 3 years. Mail server
and all. As long as the Mx records are properly recorded, everything
goes through. I had to fight a bit with AOL, but even they relented.

mike

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Old 09-29-2005, 02:13 AM
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mbpatpas@pacbell.net.invalid (Mike Preston) wrote in
news:433b00dd.265858143@news.INDIVIDUAL.NET:

> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:59:09 +0100, Ian <gruntyonline@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>apngss@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
>>> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
>>> router?
>>>
>>> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
>>> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
>>> computers more easily.
>>>
>>> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
>>> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>>>
>>> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>>>
>>> Please advise. thanks!!
>>>

>>Nice crossposting!
>>
>>Your ISP is assigning your Internet IP Address - You need a static
>>address if you are:
>>Hosting a mailserver
>>Hosting a website
>>Providing Dialin Access (VPN)

>
> No, you don't. no-ip, dyndns and similar services allow you to do all
> of the above with dynamic IPs.


True but that's a bit of a kludge.

Klazmon.




>
> mike



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Old 09-29-2005, 02:14 AM
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> However, you're right. It will cause havoc if
> the user picks a duplicated address. The chances of that happening
> are small, but possible.


Of course it's possible. There are only 2^48 combinations to play
with. ;-)


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Old 09-29-2005, 02:30 AM
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On 29 Sep 2005 13:13:52 +1200, Llanzlan Klazmon
<Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:

>mbpatpas@pacbell.net.invalid (Mike Preston) wrote in
>news:433b00dd.265858143@news.INDIVIDUAL.NET:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:59:09 +0100, Ian <gruntyonline@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>apngss@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
>>>> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
>>>> router?
>>>>
>>>> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
>>>> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
>>>> computers more easily.
>>>>
>>>> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
>>>> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>>>>
>>>> Please advise. thanks!!
>>>>
>>>Nice crossposting!
>>>
>>>Your ISP is assigning your Internet IP Address - You need a static
>>>address if you are:
>>>Hosting a mailserver
>>>Hosting a website
>>>Providing Dialin Access (VPN)

>>
>> No, you don't. no-ip, dyndns and similar services allow you to do all
>> of the above with dynamic IPs.

>
>True but that's a bit of a kludge.


Now that I agree with. Definitely a bit of a kludge.

mike

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Old 09-29-2005, 03:13 AM
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mbpatpas@pacbell.net.invalid (Mike Preston) wrote:
>On 29 Sep 2005 13:13:52 +1200, Llanzlan Klazmon
><Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:


>>>>Your ISP is assigning your Internet IP Address - You need a static
>>>>address if you are:
>>>>Hosting a mailserver
>>>>Hosting a website
>>>>Providing Dialin Access (VPN)
>>>
>>> No, you don't. no-ip, dyndns and similar services allow you to do all
>>> of the above with dynamic IPs.

>>
>>True but that's a bit of a kludge.

>
>Now that I agree with. Definitely a bit of a kludge.


Can't agree with that. It works quite well, and the appearance
of that functionality was a *huge* relief.

Remember when changing anything with your DNS, unless you were
far enough up the food chain to be running your own DNS server
for the entire Internet (not just your own network), meant that
changing anything took a *week* to be effective? That was true
even for ISP's, and was a real pain.

Now, my domain resolves to whatever I want to it, and can change
in less than two minutes (and it will take me longer than that
to remember how to do it manually).

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Old 09-29-2005, 11:25 AM
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apngss@yahoo.com writes:

> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
> router?


Typically it is assigned by your ISP.

Most ADSL users nowadays get the address through DHCP protocol
from the ISP DHCP server. When the PC boots up and is set to
use DHCP, then it sends a request packet "please give me my IP address"
as a broadcast message. The ISP DHCP server receives that
requequest and send back the answer telling that IP address and
other network settings to use. DHCP is very common way to
get the IP setting on comporate LANs, cable modem systems
and in ADSL systems.

Otherway to get the IP address automatically is though PPP
connection. Some Internet connections are formed using PPP
(on normal modem connections), PPPoA (some ADSL systems)
and PPPoE (some cable modems etc.). PPP has build in capability
for handshaking the needed IP address settings when the
connection to PPP server (the router on the ISP end) is formed.

Then there are also users that have fixed IP addresses.
They have been given those addresses in the paper agreement
when they joined to the service, and then user has configured
that address as fixed IP address to his/her computer.

> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
> Internet,


ISPs have typically configured their DHCP servers in such way
that the same users get the same IP addresses often.
The DHCP server keep tracks of the IP addresses it had "leased out",
the MAC addresses of the devices that they have been given to,
lease time (for how long time the lease was given for) and
when the lease was given.

Usually when a server gets a request for IP address,
it checks for its records to find IP address that was
earlier given to that MAC address from where the
request came from. If it is found, the same address is
generally given. If the MAC address is not found in the
records, then a new free not used IP address is selected
from the list of free addresses, and this is marked to belong
to that MAC address. When all addresses are once used,
the server starts to mark the oldest (not used in long time)
IP addresses as free for reuse by other users.

This is basically how DHCP server work. This is idea.
Specific operation details can vary between different
server implementations and how the server is configured.

> it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
> computers more easily.


Fixed IP is very unsecure only when your computer is unsecure.
If you have secure computer system you have nothign to worry.
Internet has worked from the beginning with the idea that
the computer have pretty fixed IP addresses (at least the servers).
If you plan to run server on your computer, you really
like the benefits of having fixed IP address that does not change
(There are also dynamic name services that allow using
non fixed IP addresses to run a server, it works in most
cases, but if your address happens to change at some time
all the currently open connections get cut and the server might
be inaccessable to other user for some time, even hours depending
on name server settings).

Fixed IP is a good thing. Your job is to keep your computer
secure. The security consists of safe enough operating system
(sensible operating system selection and keeping it up to date),
sensible system configuration (firewall setting, no unnecessary
services, no file sharign for whole Internet), using safe
applications (suitable web browser selection, keeping applications
up to date, no P2P application to share all yuour files).
Possibly addign a properly configured extenal firewall device
added to your system.

Using all the time changing IP addresses would not help
you mich in the security picture. There are systems that
constantly scans different IP addresses to find computers
that have security problems in them for this particular
virus/worm/hacker to use. Propablity of those random
scanners to find your computer first time is pretty much
same if your IP address is fixed or changing. And when
you have got some exploit in your computer, that software
can easily report your current computer IP address to
some hacker server every time you turn it on without
you knowing of it if your system is unsecure.
Changing IP addresses ecery time does not solve the
securty problems. In some cases it migh t seem to add
security, but the general thign is that constantly changing
IP addresses creates more problems than what it can solve
(it can't solve the security or privacy issues well).

> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.


This is how things sometimes are, but this is not how
thing should be or would be best. There are systems to
access Internet that tend to be more or less permanent
IP addresses, and then there are systems that tend to
give every time new different address.

I prefer the systems that give fixed addresses.
They have more benefits.

> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
> Please advise. thanks!!


Some ideas:

Keep your computer powered down fo so long time so that your
old address is marked as "free" and used by other user. Then
you get a new address when you connect to Internet.

Select such operator/service that tends to give different
IP addresses every time (dial-in modem ISP services, some
cellular phone data services etc..).

Change your network card to a new card evry time you want
to change IP address. New Ethernet card has (or should
have to be proper, there are some sad exceptions to this)
an unique MAC address in it. New MAC unknown MA address
gets a new IP address from the ISP (unless the ISP has
made some limitations to this, for example fixing IP
addresses to some other properly in their network
like your ADSL modem / cable modem serial number,
some user account information on PPP based connections).



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Old 09-29-2005, 05:14 PM
James Knott
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Tomi Holger Engdahl wrote:

> When the PC boots up and is set to
> use DHCP, then it sends a request packet "please give me my IP address"
> as a broadcast message. The ISP DHCP server receives that
> requequest and send back the answer telling that IP address and
> other network settings to use.


Actually, there's a bit more to it, then that. The computer initially
broadcasts a DHCPDISCOVER. Any DHCP server receiving that broadcast, can
then send a response called a DHCPOFFER. The client then chooses which
server to use and sends a DHCPREQUEST, and then receives the DHCPACK,
containing the configuration info, from the server.


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Old 10-20-2005, 11:25 AM
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apngss@yahoo.com wrote:
> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
> router?
>
> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
> computers more easily.
>
> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>
> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>
> Please advise. thanks!!
>


Hey ..

Your ISP assigns you a IP address...for phone modems i think you will
get a dynamic address..or if the ISP has the DHCP enabled then you will
get A dyanamic IP..

Azhar Attari
Bachelor of CS

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Old 10-20-2005, 02:41 PM
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"azhar attari" <niet_student@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OE7%23bCW1FHA.3856@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> apngss@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
>> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
>> router?
>>
>> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
>> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
>> computers more easily.
>>
>> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
>> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>>
>> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>>
>> Please advise. thanks!!
>>

>
> Hey ..
>
> Your ISP assigns you a IP address...for phone modems i think you will get
> a dynamic address..or if the ISP has the DHCP enabled then you will get A
> dyanamic IP..
>
> Azhar Attari
> Bachelor of CS

--------------------------------------------------
NAT
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/N/NAT.html
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/nat.htm

Find the IP Address assigned by your ISP
http://www.whatismyip.com/
--------------------------------------------------



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Old 10-22-2005, 09:00 AM
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Your ISP will like as not assign a dynamic IP to your modem; the lease time
could be a set time, or until you power off/on the modem.

If your PC connects directly to the modem (i,e, there is no router
involved), you must makes sure that you have a firewall in place, at the
very least, Microsoft XP's own one if you are using XP. ZoneAlarm do an
excellent free on which I have found reliable as heck for 2 years.

If you have a router, then don't worry about this, as the router has inbuilt
firewall capabilities, and will assign IPs to the PCs on your network -
these IPs are hidden from the WAN (internet) side of the router. It is
still a good idea to run firewall software on each machine as this will stop
malware software 'calling home'; this being software that you will have
(accidentally) let through your router.

"azhar attari" <niet_student@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OE7%23bCW1FHA.3856@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> apngss@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I want to ask who assigns the IP address to a machine that connects to
>> the Internet? The ISP, the network card (i.e. MAC address??), or the
>> router?
>>
>> It seems like my IP address is fixed everytime connected to the
>> Internet, it seems very unsecure because it allows hackers track the
>> computers more easily.
>>
>> I thought the IP address should be dynamic, and each time when we
>> connect to the Internet should have different IP address.
>>
>> Is there a way that makes the IP address in my machine becomes dynamic?
>>
>> Please advise. thanks!!
>>

>
> Hey ..
>
> Your ISP assigns you a IP address...for phone modems i think you will get
> a dynamic address..or if the ISP has the DHCP enabled then you will get A
> dyanamic IP..
>
> Azhar Attari
> Bachelor of CS




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Old 10-22-2005, 04:55 PM
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In <ukm6f.1065$Sx4.399@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net> on Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:00:26 GMT,
"__spc__" <spamtime@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>If your PC connects directly to the modem (i,e, there is no router
>involved), you must makes sure that you have a firewall in place, at the
>very least, Microsoft XP's own one if you are using XP. ZoneAlarm do an
>excellent free on which I have found reliable as heck for 2 years.
>
>If you have a router, then don't worry about this, as the router has inbuilt
>firewall capabilities, and will assign IPs to the PCs on your network -
>these IPs are hidden from the WAN (internet) side of the router. It is
>still a good idea to run firewall software on each machine as this will stop
>malware software 'calling home'; this being software that you will have
>(accidentally) let through your router.


It can also be a good idea because the protection afforded by the router
varies considerably from product to product. What you described is just
NAT/PAT (address translation), and although that does provide some measure of
protection, it's not as good as true SPI (stateful packet inspection) firewall
in the router. Some routers just have NAT/PAT; better ones have an SPI
firewall.

Also note that if you use a "DMZ" feature in the router (a horrid misuse of
the term "DMZ" IMHO), then you've probably eviscerated *all* router
protection. The so-called DMZ feature on most low-end routers is (a) not
really a DMZ at all and (b) a big security risk to the entire LAN. A true DMZ
isolates a separate public server from the LAN so that compromise of the
server doesn't put the LAN at risk.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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Old 10-23-2005, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Why IP address is fixed everytime connected to the Internet?

How about surfing through a proxy server to ease the paranoia? I
suppose you have to trust the proxy. A quick google finds this among
many:

http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/P...roxy_Services/

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