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Old 08-13-2010, 05:58 PM
Bill C
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Default Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

AT&T recently cancelled their unlimited 3G service for the iPad. Now
extra gigabytes cost $10. Verizon charges as much as $256 per gigabyte
for their mobile broadband service.

Does anyone know why it's so expensive here in the US?

I was thinking about going with Datajack. They were advertising
unlimited 3G for $39.99 per month, no contract, but they changed it to
$49.99 per month for five gigabytes. No word on what additional
gigabytes cost.

Does anyone offer unlimited 3G for a reasonable price? If not, can I
get additional gigabytes for less than $1 from anyone?

Is this likely to change anytime soon?

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Old 08-13-2010, 06:12 PM
John Navas
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Default Re: Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), in
<95c12cae-5df5-4d73-81cc-da82f3b2b220@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
Bill C <mousepoop.com@gmail.com> wrote:

>AT&T recently cancelled their unlimited 3G service for the iPad. Now
>extra gigabytes cost $10. Verizon charges as much as $256 per gigabyte
>for their mobile broadband service.
>
>Does anyone know why it's so expensive here in the US?


Because:
1. They can
2. Abuse of wireless data plans
3. Network overloading from iPhone and Android data users
4. Less competition due to different phone standards

>I was thinking about going with Datajack. They were advertising
>unlimited 3G for $39.99 per month, no contract, but they changed it to
>$49.99 per month for five gigabytes. No word on what additional
>gigabytes cost.
>
>Does anyone offer unlimited 3G for a reasonable price? If not, can I
>get additional gigabytes for less than $1 from anyone?


T-Mobile still offers "unlimited" data:
<http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/Cell-Phone-Plans.aspx?catgroup=Internet-Email-cell-phone-plan&WT.z_shop_plansLP=Internet_email>
or <http://goo.gl/uxeg>

>Is this likely to change anytime soon?


It's likely to get worse for consumers, not better.

--
John FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

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Old 08-13-2010, 06:57 PM
Bill C
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Default Re: Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

On Aug 13, 11:12*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), in
> <95c12cae-5df5-4d73-81cc-da82f3b2b...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >AT&T recently cancelled their unlimited 3G service for the iPad. Now
> >extra gigabytes cost $10. Verizon charges as much as $256 per gigabyte
> >for their mobile broadband service.

>
> >Does anyone know why it's so expensive here in the US?

>
> Because:
> *1. They can
> *2. Abuse of wireless data plans
> *3. Network overloading from iPhone and Android data users
> *4. Less competition due to different phone standards
>
> >I was thinking about going with Datajack. They were advertising
> >unlimited 3G for $39.99 per month, no contract, but they changed it to
> >$49.99 per month for five gigabytes. No word on what additional
> >gigabytes cost.

>
> >Does anyone offer unlimited 3G for a reasonable price? If not, can I
> >get additional gigabytes for less than $1 from anyone?

>
> T-Mobile still offers "unlimited" data:
> <http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/Cell-Phone-Plans.aspx?catgroup=Int....>
> or <http://goo.gl/uxeg>
>
> >Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>
> It's likely to get worse for consumers, not better.
>
> --
> John * * * * * *FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
> * * * * * * * * FAQ for Wi-Fi: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> * * * * * *Wi-Fi How To: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>


I thought WiMax was supposed to offer cheap wireless broadband. What
happened to that?

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Old 08-13-2010, 08:22 PM
John Navas
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Default Re: Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT), in
<1946c2df-3bdc-4a8a-a60b-5e6a307a3e7e@m35g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
Bill C <mousepoop.com@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 13, 11:12*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:


>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), in
>> <95c12cae-5df5-4d73-81cc-da82f3b2b...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:


>> >Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>>
>> It's likely to get worse for consumers, not better.


>I thought WiMax was supposed to offer cheap wireless broadband. What
>happened to that?


Big government and big corporations. ;)

--
John FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

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Old 08-13-2010, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), Bill C
<mousepoop.com@gmail.com> wrote:

>AT&T recently cancelled their unlimited 3G service for the iPad. Now
>extra gigabytes cost $10. Verizon charges as much as $256 per gigabyte
>for their mobile broadband service.
>
>Does anyone know why it's so expensive here in the US?
>
>I was thinking about going with Datajack. They were advertising
>unlimited 3G for $39.99 per month, no contract, but they changed it to
>$49.99 per month for five gigabytes. No word on what additional
>gigabytes cost.
>
>Does anyone offer unlimited 3G for a reasonable price? If not, can I
>get additional gigabytes for less than $1 from anyone?
>
>Is this likely to change anytime soon?

Here in Brazil when the government threatened to step in and
offer unlimited access at 25 dollars , the services suddenly improved.
Lots of nice offers appeared. I finally got my broadband after a
two-year wait :)
Might work in US of A ?
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:31:28 -0300, in
<fnab66t8sspdfdvfusruhb7e7t9cqlov20@4ax.com>, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), Bill C
><mousepoop.com@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>AT&T recently cancelled their unlimited 3G service for the iPad. Now
>>extra gigabytes cost $10. Verizon charges as much as $256 per gigabyte
>>for their mobile broadband service.
>>
>>Does anyone know why it's so expensive here in the US?
>>
>>I was thinking about going with Datajack. They were advertising
>>unlimited 3G for $39.99 per month, no contract, but they changed it to
>>$49.99 per month for five gigabytes. No word on what additional
>>gigabytes cost.
>>
>>Does anyone offer unlimited 3G for a reasonable price? If not, can I
>>get additional gigabytes for less than $1 from anyone?
>>
>>Is this likely to change anytime soon?

> Here in Brazil when the government threatened to step in and
>offer unlimited access at 25 dollars , the services suddenly improved.
>Lots of nice offers appeared. I finally got my broadband after a
>two-year wait :)
> Might work in US of A ?


Too much in the public interest -- Republicans would undoubtedly block
it on behalf of their wealthy corporate sponsors.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

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Old 08-13-2010, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

On Aug 13, 1:22*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT), in
> <1946c2df-3bdc-4a8a-a60b-5e6a307a3...@m35g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 11:12*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), in
> >> <95c12cae-5df5-4d73-81cc-da82f3b2b...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>
> >> It's likely to get worse for consumers, not better.

> >I thought WiMax was supposed to offer cheap wireless broadband. What
> >happened to that?

>
> Big government and big corporations. *;)
>
> --
> John * * * * * *FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
> * * * * * * * * FAQ for Wi-Fi: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> * * * * * *Wi-Fi How To: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>


Would it be possible for communities to get together to form their own
wireless networks? Is there anything that could be put together that
wouldn't cost more than say $200 per user that could scale up to a
small city?

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Old 08-13-2010, 10:21 PM
John Navas
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Default Re: Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:59:27 -0700 (PDT), in
<cabb9864-893c-45bf-a7d5-f210df40901c@y32g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Bill C <mousepoop.com@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 13, 1:22*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT), in
>> <1946c2df-3bdc-4a8a-a60b-5e6a307a3...@m35g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 13, 11:12*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), in
>> >> <95c12cae-5df5-4d73-81cc-da82f3b2b...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>>
>> >> It's likely to get worse for consumers, not better.
>> >I thought WiMax was supposed to offer cheap wireless broadband. What
>> >happened to that?

>>
>> Big government and big corporations. *;)


>Would it be possible for communities to get together to form their own
>wireless networks? Is there anything that could be put together that
>wouldn't cost more than say $200 per user that could scale up to a
>small city?


Sure -- I know of groups of rural users who have done that, but it's a
big hassle for whoever gets stuck with the operation.
Small ISP is another possibility -- see
<http://sonic.net/solutions/home/internet/pogowave/>

--
John FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

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Old 08-13-2010, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Why is wireless broadband so expensive in the US?

On Aug 13, 3:21*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:59:27 -0700 (PDT), in
> <cabb9864-893c-45bf-a7d5-f210df409...@y32g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 1:22*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT), in
> >> <1946c2df-3bdc-4a8a-a60b-5e6a307a3...@m35g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

>
> >> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Aug 13, 11:12*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), in
> >> >> <95c12cae-5df5-4d73-81cc-da82f3b2b...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>
> >> >> It's likely to get worse for consumers, not better.
> >> >I thought WiMax was supposed to offer cheap wireless broadband. What
> >> >happened to that?

>
> >> Big government and big corporations. *;)

> >Would it be possible for communities to get together to form their own
> >wireless networks? Is there anything that could be put together that
> >wouldn't cost more than say $200 per user that could scale up to a
> >small city?

>
> Sure -- I know of groups of rural users who have done that, but it's a
> big hassle for whoever gets stuck with the operation.
> Small ISP is another possibility -- see
> <http://sonic.net/solutions/home/internet/pogowave/>
>
> --
> John * * * * * *FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
> * * * * * * * * FAQ for Wi-Fi: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> * * * * * *Wi-Fi How To: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: *<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>


Sonic.net looks interesting, but they're not in my area.

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Old 08-14-2010, 12:57 AM
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"Bill C" <mousepoop.com@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cabb9864-893c-45bf-a7d5-f210df40901c@y32g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 13, 1:22 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT), in
> <1946c2df-3bdc-4a8a-a60b-5e6a307a3...@m35g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 11:12 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), in
> >> <95c12cae-5df5-4d73-81cc-da82f3b2b...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>
> >> It's likely to get worse for consumers, not better.

> >I thought WiMax was supposed to offer cheap wireless broadband. What
> >happened to that?

>
> Big government and big corporations. ;)
>
> --
> John FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
> FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>


Would it be possible for communities to get together to form their own
wireless networks? Is there anything that could be put together that
wouldn't cost more than say $200 per user that could scale up to a
small city?

{{

In NC TWC has or is trying to push through legislation that would prohibit
municipal supported systems.




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Old 08-14-2010, 01:27 AM
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On 8/13/2010 3:33 PM, John Navas wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:31:28 -0300, in
> <fnab66t8sspdfdvfusruhb7e7t9cqlov20@4ax.com>, Shadow<Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), Bill C
>> <mousepoop.com@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> AT&T recently cancelled their unlimited 3G service for the iPad. Now
>>> extra gigabytes cost $10. Verizon charges as much as $256 per gigabyte
>>> for their mobile broadband service.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know why it's so expensive here in the US?
>>>
>>> I was thinking about going with Datajack. They were advertising
>>> unlimited 3G for $39.99 per month, no contract, but they changed it to
>>> $49.99 per month for five gigabytes. No word on what additional
>>> gigabytes cost.
>>>
>>> Does anyone offer unlimited 3G for a reasonable price? If not, can I
>>> get additional gigabytes for less than $1 from anyone?
>>>
>>> Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>> Here in Brazil when the government threatened to step in and
>> offer unlimited access at 25 dollars , the services suddenly improved.
>> Lots of nice offers appeared. I finally got my broadband after a
>> two-year wait :)
>> Might work in US of A ?

>
> Too much in the public interest -- Republicans would undoubtedly block
> it on behalf of their wealthy corporate sponsors.
>

I have seen that in action and believe me it is not less expensive
because the hardware needs to be upgraded on a regular basis.

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Old 08-14-2010, 01:29 AM
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On Aug 13, 5:57*pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "Bill C" <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cabb9864-893c-45bf-a7d5-f210df40901c@y32g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 13, 1:22 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT), in
> > <1946c2df-3bdc-4a8a-a60b-5e6a307a3...@m35g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

>
> > Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Aug 13, 11:12 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), in
> > >> <95c12cae-5df5-4d73-81cc-da82f3b2b...@g21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > >> Bill C <mousepoop....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>
> > >> It's likely to get worse for consumers, not better.
> > >I thought WiMax was supposed to offer cheap wireless broadband. What
> > >happened to that?

>
> > Big government and big corporations. ;)

>
> > --
> > John FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
> > FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> > Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> > Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

>
> Would it be possible for communities to get together to form their own
> wireless networks? Is there anything that could be put together that
> wouldn't cost more than say $200 per user that could scale up to a
> small city?
>
> {{
>
> In NC TWC has or is trying to push through legislation that would prohibit
> municipal supported systems.


I'm glad I don't live in NC.

I'd settle for WiFI if it were available in more locations. It doesn't
have to be free either, just REASONABLE. It seems like just about
everyone has a wireless router these days. We should be able to find a
way to share them safely and inexpensively.

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Old 08-14-2010, 06:43 PM
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John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
news:ovab661ru6cbgnhjhnba128chj24ufp4tn@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:31:28 -0300, in
> <fnab66t8sspdfdvfusruhb7e7t9cqlov20@4ax.com>, Shadow

<Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT), Bill C
>><mousepoop.com@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>AT&T recently cancelled their unlimited 3G service for the

iPad. Now
>>>extra gigabytes cost $10. Verizon charges as much as $256

per gigabyte
>>>for their mobile broadband service.
>>>
>>>Does anyone know why it's so expensive here in the US?
>>>
>>>I was thinking about going with Datajack. They were

advertising
>>>unlimited 3G for $39.99 per month, no contract, but they

changed it to
>>>$49.99 per month for five gigabytes. No word on what

additional
>>>gigabytes cost.
>>>
>>>Does anyone offer unlimited 3G for a reasonable price? If

not, can I
>>>get additional gigabytes for less than $1 from anyone?
>>>
>>>Is this likely to change anytime soon?

>> Here in Brazil when the government threatened to step

in and
>>offer unlimited access at 25 dollars , the services

suddenly improved.
>>Lots of nice offers appeared. I finally got my broadband

after a
>>two-year wait :)
>> Might work in US of A ?

>
> Too much in the public interest -- Republicans would

undoubtedly block
> it on behalf of their wealthy corporate sponsors.
>


Of course you could do the smart thing, get yourself a good
radio and antenna and just take the wifi where you can find
it. Plenty of open connections out there. Price per month $0.
Of course, then you risk having Navas call you a thief, but
who cares?

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