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Old 04-15-2007, 12:16 AM
K. M. Kirby
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Default WiFi or Bluetooth to Powered Down Axim?

Lately, I've been noticing wireless activity on my old dell axim --
after turning it off for the night! The lights will start to flicker,
and because it was sitting near the tv set both times, I'm able to
deactivate the wireless soon after the access(?) began.

Is there a method now to access a shut-down computer, over bluetooth
or something?

Just wondering...


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Old 04-15-2007, 04:42 AM
Jeff Liebermann
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Default Re: WiFi or Bluetooth to Powered Down Axim?

"K. M. Kirby" <kevin.kirby@gmail.com> hath wroth:

>Lately, I've been noticing wireless activity on my old dell axim --
>after turning it off for the night! The lights will start to flicker,
>and because it was sitting near the tv set both times, I'm able to
>deactivate the wireless soon after the access(?) began.
>
>Is there a method now to access a shut-down computer, over bluetooth
>or something?


Yes, but I'm not sure your "old Dell Axim" qualifies. (Translation:
Duz it got a muddle number)?

Also, which lites go flicker and what does the TV set have to do with
this? What are you doing with the TV to "deactivate" the Axim? How
can you tell there's "wireless activity"? The flickering lights might
indicate anything from a dying battery to 2.4GHz garbage reception.
(Translation: Make an effort to be clearer as to what's happening and
what you're doing).

The technology is called "Wake on Lan" or "Magic Packet". The
computer leaves the power applied to the network interface when turned
off. When the ethernet, BlueGoof, or wireless device receives the
proper packet, the machine wakes up. For example, I can "wake up" my
PDA phone (XV6700) using Bluetooth or IrDA.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN>

I have no clue if your unspecified model Dell Axim supports WOL but it
looks like it just might:
<http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=3285&associateid=9>
Hmmm... looks like it will send a WOL packet, but doesn't receive.
Maybe not.


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Old 04-16-2007, 11:18 PM
K. M. Kirby
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Default Re: WiFi or Bluetooth to Powered Down Axim?

Thanks, Jeff.

The flickering blue & yellow-green lights on my x30 may have been
garbage reception from a neighboring room. The only thing my tv has to
do with this, perhaps, is that the flickering caught my attention
immediately -- both nights. By disabling wireless before going home,
the strange lights seem to have gone away.

kk

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> "K. M. Kirby" <kevin.kirby@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>
> >Lately, I've been noticing wireless activity on my old dell axim --
> >after turning it off for the night! The lights will start to flicker,
> >and because it was sitting near the tv set both times, I'm able to
> >deactivate the wireless soon after the access(?) began.
> >
> >Is there a method now to access a shut-down computer, over bluetooth
> >or something?

>
> Yes, but I'm not sure your "old Dell Axim" qualifies. (Translation:
> Duz it got a muddle number)?
>
> Also, which lites go flicker and what does the TV set have to do with
> this? What are you doing with the TV to "deactivate" the Axim? How
> can you tell there's "wireless activity"? The flickering lights might
> indicate anything from a dying battery to 2.4GHz garbage reception.
> (Translation: Make an effort to be clearer as to what's happening and
> what you're doing).
>
> The technology is called "Wake on Lan" or "Magic Packet". The
> computer leaves the power applied to the network interface when turned
> off. When the ethernet, BlueGoof, or wireless device receives the
> proper packet, the machine wakes up. For example, I can "wake up" my
> PDA phone (XV6700) using Bluetooth or IrDA.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN>
>
> I have no clue if your unspecified model Dell Axim supports WOL but it
> looks like it just might:
> <http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=3285&associateid=9>
> Hmmm... looks like it will send a WOL packet, but doesn't receive.
> Maybe not.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558



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Old 04-17-2007, 03:12 AM
Jeff Liebermann
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Default Re: WiFi or Bluetooth to Powered Down Axim?

"K. M. Kirby" <kevin.kirby@gmail.com> hath wroth:

>The flickering blue & yellow-green lights on my x30 may have been
>garbage reception from a neighboring room. The only thing my tv has to
>do with this, perhaps, is that the flickering caught my attention
>immediately -- both nights. By disabling wireless before going home,
>the strange lights seem to have gone away.


Ok, it's an X30. The blue light is the Bluetooth function and should
be always on if the Bluetooth is enabled. If there's a Bluetooth
device trying to connect nearby, it will flash. The green light is
the WiFi section. Same thing as Bluetooth. If there's activity, it
will flash. According to several reviews, turning them both on at the
same time result in mutual interference and rapid battery drain.
<http://pocketpccentral.net/reviews/dell_x30_624.htm>

Incidentally, I wanted to buy an X30 a while back from a friend.
However, he managed to destroy the charging connector before he could
sell it to me. Careful, it's fragile. This was not my idea of fun:
<http://www.gethightech.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=GHT&Category_Co de=_x3_takeapart>
However, it worked when I was done and we mutually agreed that I
didn't want it.


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Old 04-18-2007, 11:24 PM
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> "K. M. Kirby" <kevin.kirby@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>
> >The flickering blue & yellow-green lights on my x30 may have been
> >garbage reception from a neighboring room. The only thing my tv has to
> >do with this, perhaps, is that the flickering caught my attention
> >immediately -- both nights. By disabling wireless before going home,
> >the strange lights seem to have gone away.

>
> Ok, it's an X30. The blue light is the Bluetooth function and should
> be always on if the Bluetooth is enabled. If there's a Bluetooth
> device trying to connect nearby, it will flash. The green light is
> the WiFi section. Same thing as Bluetooth. If there's activity, it
> will flash. According to several reviews, turning them both on at the
> same time result in mutual interference and rapid battery drain.
> <http://pocketpccentral.net/reviews/dell_x30_624.htm>
>
> Incidentally, I wanted to buy an X30 a while back from a friend.
> However, he managed to destroy the charging connector before he could
> sell it to me. Careful, it's fragile. This was not my idea of fun:
> <http://www.gethightech.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=GHT&Category_Co de=_x3_takeapart>
> However, it worked when I was done and we mutually agreed that I
> didn't want it.
>
>
> --


An x30 is okay for coffeeshop web access, when it's in landscape mode.
Much better than the x3 w/card, although blogs and ebay still get
stuck in the slow, flash memory build. No flash video, either.

I'm still wondering -- can it be turned on with bluetooth to get its
browser read by strangers?


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Old 04-19-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: WiFi or Bluetooth to Powered Down Axim?

On 18 Apr 2007 15:24:58 -0700, "K. M. Kirby" <kevin.kirby@gmail.com>
wrote:

>An x30 is okay for coffeeshop web access, when it's in landscape mode.
>Much better than the x3 w/card, although blogs and ebay still get
>stuck in the slow, flash memory build. No flash video, either.


I now have a Verizon XV6700. Also no Flash video, no Java, but most
everything else works well. 802.11b only so it's a bit slow.

>I'm still wondering -- can it be turned on with bluetooth to get its
>browser read by strangers?


Dunno. I'm sure someone has figured out how to turn it into a wi-fi
to Bluetooth bridge. That should do the trick. However, I'm a bit
busy to do the necessary research right now.

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