Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:06:10 -0500, "ps56k"
> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>
>> in case you had not seen this article...
>> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...rks-wifi_N.htm
>
> That's great. One goes to a state park to get away from civilization
> and they bring their computers.
I agree with you and Charles Spitz of Wall Township, N.J from the article.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:06:10 -0500, "ps56k"
> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>
>> in case you had not seen this article...
>> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...rks-wifi_N.htm
>
> That's great. One goes to a state park to get away from civilization
> and they bring their computers.
> --
one the surface - I was visualizing AP's around the camping area,
but in reflecting on the concept - I could see an AP in the newer "hotel"
or the main "lodge" area.... for group gatherings, etc.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:06:10 -0500, "ps56k"
> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>
>> in case you had not seen this article...
>> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...rks-wifi_N.htm
>
> That's great. One goes to a state park to get away from civilization
> and they bring their computers.
Wait, do you think going to campgrounds at state parks is getting away
from "civilization?" Go over to the campgrounds at New Brighton or
Sunset some Saturday night.
On Fri, 9 May 2008 11:57:06 -0500, "ps56k"
<pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:06:10 -0500, "ps56k"
>> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>
>>> in case you had not seen this article...
>>> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...rks-wifi_N.htm
>>
>> That's great. One goes to a state park to get away from civilization
>> and they bring their computers.
>one the surface - I was visualizing AP's around the camping area,
>but in reflecting on the concept - I could see an AP in the newer "hotel"
>or the main "lodge" area.... for group gatherings, etc.
I had visions of Yellowstone Park, with wi-fi repeaters on the backs
of the bears forming a mesh network. Maybe plastic fake trees and
bushes for the access points. Battery charging stations at every
trail head. Free CD protectors (for the file sharing downloads) at
the ranger stations. Multi-media experience computer tours in 3D for
those that are permanently attached to their laptops. Virtual reality
head mounted displays with interactive shows for simulating a bear
attack, the way it was before the USFS screwed it up, and get your
last look at the park before it's paved over.
Hmmm... if this is a nightmare, why can't a I wake up?
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Fri, 9 May 2008 11:57:06 -0500, "ps56k"
> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>
>> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:06:10 -0500, "ps56k"
>>> <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> in case you had not seen this article...
>>>> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...rks-wifi_N.htm
>>>
>>> That's great. One goes to a state park to get away from
>>> civilization and they bring their computers.
>
>> one the surface - I was visualizing AP's around the camping area,
>> but in reflecting on the concept - I could see an AP in the newer
>> "hotel" or the main "lodge" area.... for group gatherings, etc.
>
> I had visions of Yellowstone Park, with wi-fi repeaters on the backs
> of the bears forming a mesh network. Maybe plastic fake trees and
> bushes for the access points. Battery charging stations at every
> trail head. Free CD protectors (for the file sharing downloads) at
> the ranger stations. Multi-media experience computer tours in 3D for
> those that are permanently attached to their laptops. Virtual reality
> head mounted displays with interactive shows for simulating a bear
> attack, the way it was before the USFS screwed it up, and get your
> last look at the park before it's paved over.
>
> Hmmm... if this is a nightmare, why can't a I wake up?
>
>
I've been out to parks/forests like Mt. Rainer and here in Chicago - Starved
Rock -
Each had their huge log lodges built back in the day, and they look the
part.
I've seen weddings, company gatherings, etc held at these "rustic"
locations.
So - I could see AP's going up within the confines of the walled community,
or the newer hotel building adjacent to these logged lodges.
I'll have to take a drive down to Starved Rock and see what they have
deployed....
Wonder if any of these sites actually have put up AP's for the camping areas
?
heck - they have "hookups" -
sorta like that other thread with the RV park & the WiFi via a T1 -
SMS wrote:
>
> Wait, do you think going to campgrounds at state parks is getting away
> from "civilization?" Go over to the campgrounds at New Brighton or
> Sunset some Saturday night.
I've only been to a "campground" a couple of times....
I tend to see more of the crowd.... let's go away and drink beer & yell all
night.
NOT a fun family weekend, it was horrible.
then again - the Boy Scout backpacking stuff out in the middle of nowhere is
much better -
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 May 2008 16:06:10 -0500, "ps56k"
> > <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
> >
> >> in case you had not seen this article...
> >> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...rks-wifi_N.htm
> >
> > That's great. One goes to a state park to get away from civilization
> > and they bring their computers.
> I agree with you and Charles Spitz of Wall Township, N.J from the article.
George wants to rule my life. I would rather object to George's generator,
running to keep his motorhome cool, than someone sitting at a laptop. More
outdoor freedom for George if the other residents are inside with a laptop.
Jeff just laments his own lack of conviction, that if WiFi were there, he
would be powerless to avoid using it. ;-)
There are many retirees who would like to post their photos to PicassaWeb
while on the road, or be able to view the myspace pages of the
grandchildren.
I wonder what a backpacker does with the laptop while out on the trail.
Maybe it gets locked in the "bear locker" along with the peanut butter.
Or tucked safely under the dirty socks in the laundry bag.
KOA has had WiFi for years. I used it to plot my next camp sites.
Cell phone coverage is more intrusive on my solitude than WiFi coverage.
--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
>
> There are many retirees who would like to post their photos to PicassaWeb
> while on the road, or be able to view the myspace pages of the
> grandchildren.
>
We visited my wife's mom and dad in FL, with my computer, they got a
kick out of real time with video on iChat.
>Jeff just laments his own lack of conviction, that if WiFi were there, he
>would be powerless to avoid using it. ;-)
True. The secret to long life, inner peace, and harmony with both
nature and the establishment is to never waste energy resisting
temptation. I tried to go for a weekend without turning on the
computah, and failed. I'm sure there's a 12 step addictive self-help
computah addiction withdrawl program available somewhere, but it's
probably administered on a computah.
ps56k wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>> Wait, do you think going to campgrounds at state parks is getting away
>> from "civilization?" Go over to the campgrounds at New Brighton or
>> Sunset some Saturday night.
>
> I've only been to a "campground" a couple of times....
> I tend to see more of the crowd.... let's go away and drink beer & yell all
> night.
> NOT a fun family weekend, it was horrible.
>
> then again - the Boy Scout backpacking stuff out in the middle of nowhere is
> much better -
>
>
Agree, pulling up with a motor home with A/C, shower, refrigerator,
satellite TV and broadband isn't camping. We still do real camping where
you carry in whatever you need and truly get away.
I also find those commercials showing someone trundling up to a peaceful
waterfall in the forest in their mammoth SUV to "enjoy nature" annoying.
<snip>
> I had visions of Yellowstone Park, with wi-fi repeaters on the backs
> of the bears forming a mesh network. Maybe plastic fake trees and
> bushes for the access points. ...
Remember MacNamara's Fence? Fake plastic jungle plant antennas
attached to data collection devices dropped or otherwise
placed on jungle trails in Viet Nam which were laughably
conspicuous to anyone who saw one.
dold@99.usenet.us.com wrote:
> There are many retirees who would like to post their photos to PicassaWeb
> while on the road, or be able to view the myspace pages of the
> grandchildren.
I've done live web casts while riding my horse in the
LBJ National Grasslands. Wireless 10 Mbps DSL is awesome
by the campfire.
WiFi at state parks 
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