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Old 10-07-2007, 11:12 AM
Bill
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Default WiFi vs DSL

Would someone please explain the advantage of adding a WiFi router to an
existing DSL connection?

Bill



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Old 10-07-2007, 03:50 PM
Jonathan L. Parker
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Default Re: WiFi vs DSL

Bill wrote:
> Would someone please explain the advantage of adding a WiFi router to an
> existing DSL connection?
>
> Bill
>
>


Um...how about being able to access the connection wirelessly?

Seriously, what are you planning or hoping to do that you can't do now?
Let us know and we'll be happy to advise as to whether Wi-Fi can help
you do it.

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Old 10-07-2007, 04:03 PM
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"Bill" <wielert@bellsouth.net> hath wroth:

>Would someone please explain the advantage of adding a WiFi router to an
>existing DSL connection?


Sure. Wireless doesn't have any wires between the computah and the
router. If these are located next to each other, there's little
benifit and CAT5 cable should be used. However, if you want to wander
around the house, or running cables is difficult, wireless is one of
several solutions. Also, if you are buying a router, the wireless
option adds very little additional cost.

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Old 10-07-2007, 05:18 PM
Mark McIntyre
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On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 07:12:45 -0400, in alt.internet.wireless , "Bill"
<wielert@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Would someone please explain the advantage of adding a WiFi router to an
>existing DSL connection?


Is it a trick question????
Presumably so you can use the DSL conneciton wirelessly.

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Old 10-07-2007, 07:26 PM
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Rodney Muers <rdmyers.42@gmail.com> hath wroth:

>In article <gb3Oi.1650$s8.888@bignews3.bellsouth.net>
>"Bill"<wielert@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Would someone please explain the advantage of adding a WiFi router
>> to an existing DSL connection?
>> Bill


>Speed. DSL is faster than WiFi.


Wrongo. The fastest DSL you can buy (without bonding multiple DSL
lines) is about 6Mbit/sec which will deliver 4.8Mbit/sec on a good
day.

To match that speed exactly with wireless, you would require a
9Mbit/sec OFDM connection, which has a thruput of about half, or
4.5Mbit/sec. Faster wireless connections go proportionately faster. I
routinely get 20-25Mbits/sec with a 54MBit/sec wireless connection.

<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Performance_and_Speed>

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Old 10-08-2007, 06:31 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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Rodney Muers <rdmyers.42@gmail.com> hath wroth:

>In article <tgcig3d35bno6fm9le8ju6dh1gg67ioqhl@4ax.com> Jeff
>Liebermann<jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> Rodney Muers <rdmyers.42@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>>> In article <gb3Oi.1650$s8.888@bignews3.bellsouth.net>
>>> "Bill"<wielert@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> Would someone please explain the advantage of adding a WiFi
>>>> router to an existing DSL connection?
>>>> Bill

>
>>> Speed. DSL is faster than WiFi.

>
>> Wrongo. The fastest DSL you can buy (without bonding multiple
>> DSLlines) is about 6Mbit/sec which will deliver 4.8Mbit/sec on a good
>> day.

>
>> To match that speed exactly with wireless, you would require a
>> 9Mbit/sec OFDM connection, which has a thruput of about half, or
>> 4.5Mbit/sec. Faster wireless connections go proportionately faster.
>> Iroutinely get 20-25Mbits/sec with a 54MBit/sec wireless connection.

>
>> <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Performance_and_Speed>


>Then your WIFI ISP must be doing things correctly. In my rural
>community, the speed sucks at times.


Interference, path obstructions, Fresnel diffraction, weather,
folliage attenuation, etc. Life is tough for wireless.

>I would prefer DSL over wifi.


The original question was about *ADDING* a Wi-Fi router to an existing
DSL connection, not about alternatives to DSL. Totally different
issue and question.

You are somewhat correct about WISP (wireless internet service
provider) performance using Wi-Fi. DSL downloads are generally faster
than what WISP's usually deliver. However, that may not be true for
uploads. WISP usually supply symmetrical service, where the download
and upload speeds are identical. DSL throttles the upload speed to
some fraction of the upload. For example, my 1.5Mbit/sec download DSL
line only gets 256Kbits/sec upload speed.


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Old 10-09-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: WiFi vs DSL

I don't mean to beat a dead horse since my question was pretty well covered.
The original purpose though phrased improperly had to do with understanding
the NEED for a DSL line.
Browsing router tutorials the instructions say to connect the router to a
cable modem or DSL which confused me since I thought wireless meant without
wires as one responder pointed out.



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