Win98SE and WPA-PSK incompatibility

On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 06:44:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in
<30pjd2d5fu41q461aoehna01jner6hc8ai@4ax.com>:

>hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel Hammerschmidt) hath wroth:
>
>>> The supplicant comes with the driver.
>
>>Makes no difference. It's still the supplicant. Funk Software's Odyssey
>>client and WZC do not.

>Incidentally, I think the term supplicant is stupid. In other drivers
>(i.e. VPN), it's called a "shim", which is both more appropriate and
>easier to spell.

The term "supplicant" comes from IEEE 802.1X, but is nonetheless stupid
in this context since generic usage is so easily confused with a
specific software package: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wpa_supplicant>

>>> Wrong. It literally doesn't fit in the slots on the edge of the card.
>>> A 16 bit card will fit in a 32 bit slot, but not the other way around.
>>> Try it and see for thyself.
>
>>That's because of the voltage, not the bus width.
>
>Just try it and see for thyself. A 32 bit card will not fit in a 16
>bit slot. It's more than just the power supply voltage. There are
>substantial differences in connector pinout function.

Actual physical keying is by voltage, not by bus, but you are
essentially correct in that all Cardbus cards are 3.3 volt, and if the
slot supports 3.3 volts, then it almost certainly supports Cardbus.
(I don't know of a 3.3 volt slot that isn't Cardbus. Both 3.3 volt and
Cardbus were introduced in PC Card Standard Release 5.0)

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:32:02 +0100, Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net>
wrote in <0001HW.C0FFB072006933C5F0284530@news.individual.n et>:

>Having checked the notebook manual, the slot will take either card. I've
>found one here that looks the right sort of thing:
><http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47109&&source=14&doy=7m8>
>or
><http://tinyurl.com/leqn9>

Check around, even for used gear, and you may be able to find one
cheaper. I recently found a new one on sale for only US$5.00.

>Am very grateful for all the good advice here.

You're welcome.

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On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:53:45 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjtd7m.1ro1yixtx60xsN%hlexa@hotmail.com>:

>John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:12:28 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
>> Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjt112.1a6f8f8shadp8N%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>>
>> >Client manager 2 is no longer on Buffalo's site - I can't find it there
>> >- so you have to look for it at a driver site.
>>
>> Which would be a violation of copyright unless explicitly authorized by
>> Buffalo (or the actual copyright holder), which it probably isn't.
>
>Not necessarily.

Necessarily if you're in the USA.

>Find it on a site in Israel.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyrig...nt_of_software

Doesn't apply in this case.

>And where do people who have paid for it go when they need a new copy?

The same place they go when they lose a $10 bill.

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Axel Hammerschmidt <hlexa@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 01:55:14 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
> > Hammerschmidt) wrote:

<snip>

> > >Lots of cards support WPA when used with Buffalo's Client Manager 2
> > >under Windows 2K, and Win98SE - according to the readme. D-Link DWL-650+
> > >and Belkin F5D7010 cards do (under W2K) for a start.
> >
> > I've never tried it but as you previously mentioned, only the older
> > versions work with non-Buffalo hardware.
>
> The information on Buffalo's site:
>
> http://www.buffalotech.com/products/cm3.php
>
> -says:
>
> <quote>
>
> Unlike Client Manager 2, Client Manager 3 now works with most* wireless
> client adapters from any manufacturer. [...]
>
> [* most/any: Buffalo Technology does not guarantee compatibility with
> all cards, but based on our testing it works with majority of devices
> available on the market today. Please check back for a database of
> tested cards; we will update the list frequently.]
>
> <unquote>
>
> I think this refers to when the client is used with a Buffalo access
> point or wireless router and a third party wireless card. My experience
> is, that it (v3) doesn't work when neither the access point nor the card
> is from Buffalo.
>
> BTW. I have not been able to find any database of tested cards at
> Buffalo's site.
>
> Client manager 3 is a MeetingHouse product.
>
> Client manager 2 works with (some) cards/access point not from Buffalo.
> And version 3 doesn't work under Win98, version 2 does.
>
> Client manager 2 is no longer on Buffalo's site - I can't find it there
> - so you have to look for it at a driver site.

Someone very helpfull, who has found my posting from back in August sent
an e-mail today with a direct link for download of Buffalo's
ClientManager2, v2.1.

The helpfull person states, that CM2 (v2.1) enables WPA encryption with
his own D-Link DWL-650+ (PC Card) under Windows 98 instead of the D-Link
client, which does not support WPA.

CM2 (v2.1) probably works for many other older cards without client
support for WPA encryption as well.

The link seems to work. Get CM2 v2.1 from Buffalo's site here:

<http://www.buffalotech.com/downloads/ClientMgr2_120904.zip>