I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly to my
Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled. After extensive googling
and reading on this newsgroup I realise that such an old OS as Win98SE is
apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK. My current set-up is: Netgear Wireless
ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with an iMac G5 connected through an Ethernet
cable and an iMac G4 which connects (successfully) wirelessly through its
built in Airport, Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin PCMCIA
card which has in the past connected with the same model router (but one
which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
I don't use the notebook a lot but I have found three options (apart from
throwing out the notebook!) and would be glad of some advice:
1. When I want to use the notebook, unplug my Netgear router and plug the
notebook into my old BT Voyager broadband modem using my old USB cable (the
notebook has no Ethernet slot). I'm not keen on this although it would be a
work-around.
2. Set the encryption on the router to WEP rather than WPA when I want to use
the notebook, and then switch back. I believe from my reading that Win98SE
would work with WEP? I can set up WEP on the router OK, but I'm not sure what
I would have to set up on the Belkin settings.
3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
<http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good idea,
and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet slot in
the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone can advise
otherwise.
Incidentally, the Belkin card registers (beeps on turn-on) and is shown in
the taskbar, and its little green light is on. If I look at the card
properties, it shows: Belkin 11Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Adapter. If I
go to Start-Programs-Belkin PCMCIA WLAN Utility and select Belkin PCMCIA WLAN
Monitor my Router SSID is shown but I get an Authentication Error with a
message to Check Encryption Settings when I try to connect to the network.
I'm a novice at all this so having trouble fully grasping some of the
technical terms and issues.
> I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly to my
> Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled. After extensive googling
> and reading on this newsgroup I realise that such an old OS as Win98SE is
> apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK. My current set-up is: Netgear Wireless
> ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with an iMac G5 connected through an Ethernet
> cable and an iMac G4 which connects (successfully) wirelessly through its
> built in Airport, Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin PCMCIA
> card which has in the past connected with the same model router (but one
> which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
>
> I don't use the notebook a lot but I have found three options (apart from
> throwing out the notebook!) and would be glad of some advice:
<snip>
> 3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
>
> <http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
> which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good idea,
> and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
The link looks interesting.
An alternative could be Buffalo's Client Manager 2 (v2.1). This works
with many old (non-Buffalo) PCMCIA cards providing WPA-PSK/TKIP, even
WPA-AES for my Gericom card with RTL8180 chipset.
You haven't provided details about the Belkin card.
> The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet slot in
> the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone can advise
> otherwise.
You could look for a PCMCIA to ethernet (cable) adapter.
> Incidentally, the Belkin card registers (beeps on turn-on) and is shown in
> the taskbar, and its little green light is on. If I look at the card
> properties, it shows: Belkin 11Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Adapter. If I
> go to Start-Programs-Belkin PCMCIA WLAN Utility and select Belkin PCMCIA WLAN
> Monitor my Router SSID is shown but I get an Authentication Error with a
> message to Check Encryption Settings when I try to connect to the network.
Apparently you have a Win98 driver for the Belkin card, which is...?
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:01:34 +0100, Axel Hammerschmidt wrote
(in article <1hjpo6x.1u55kgf93jp8eN%hlexa@hotmail.com>):
> Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly to
>> my
>> Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled. After extensive googling
>> and reading on this newsgroup I realise that such an old OS as Win98SE is
>> apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK. My current set-up is: Netgear Wireless
>> ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with an iMac G5 connected through an Ethernet
>> cable and an iMac G4 which connects (successfully) wirelessly through its
>> built in Airport, Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin
>> PCMCIA
>> card which has in the past connected with the same model router (but one
>> which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
>>
>> I don't use the notebook a lot but I have found three options (apart from
>> throwing out the notebook!) and would be glad of some advice:
>
> <snip>
>
>> 3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
>>
>> <http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
>> which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good idea,
>> and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
>
> The link looks interesting.
>
> An alternative could be Buffalo's Client Manager 2 (v2.1). This works
> with many old (non-Buffalo) PCMCIA cards providing WPA-PSK/TKIP, even
> WPA-AES for my Gericom card with RTL8180 chipset.
Thanks for the reply. I think I've tracked down Buffalo Client Manager 2
(they are on Version 3 now) and will transfer it via my USB stick to see if
it works.
> You haven't provided details about the Belkin card.
Sorry, didn't realise those details would be useful. I think I have just
about everything else written down. It's a Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless
Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020 ver.2
>> The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet slot
>> in
>> the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone can advise
>> otherwise.
>
> You could look for a PCMCIA to ethernet (cable) adapter.
OK, thanks for the tip. There seem to be hundreds out there. Any particular
recommendation?
>> Incidentally, the Belkin card registers (beeps on turn-on) and is shown in
>> the taskbar, and its little green light is on. If I look at the card
>> properties, it shows: Belkin 11Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Adapter. If I
>> go to Start-Programs-Belkin PCMCIA WLAN Utility and select Belkin PCMCIA
>> WLAN
>> Monitor my Router SSID is shown but I get an Authentication Error with a
>> message to Check Encryption Settings when I try to connect to the network.
>
> Apparently you have a Win98 driver for the Belkin card, which is...?
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:39:32 +0100, Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net>
wrote in <0001HW.C0FD0F3400282B18F0284530@news.individual.n et>:
>I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly to my
>Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled. After extensive googling
>and reading on this newsgroup I realise that such an old OS as Win98SE is
>apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK.
No Microsoft support for WPA, and OS support has ended. Highly
recommend upgrading to Windows XP, which works well, given enough
memory, even on my old ThinkPad 600 (266 MHz Pentium II).
>My current set-up is: Netgear Wireless
>ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with an iMac G5 connected through an Ethernet
>cable and an iMac G4 which connects (successfully) wirelessly through its
>built in Airport, Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin PCMCIA
>card which has in the past connected with the same model router (but one
>which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
>
>I don't use the notebook a lot but I have found three options (apart from
>throwing out the notebook!) and would be glad of some advice:
>
>1. When I want to use the notebook, unplug my Netgear router and plug the
>notebook into my old BT Voyager broadband modem using my old USB cable (the
>notebook has no Ethernet slot). I'm not keen on this although it would be a
>work-around.
USB is problematic on Windows 98. I'd suggest a PC Card Ethernet
adapter. Just about any will do that comes with a Windows 98 driver.
Newegg.com and Provantage are good online sources.
>2. Set the encryption on the router to WEP rather than WPA when I want to use
>the notebook, and then switch back. I believe from my reading that Win98SE
>would work with WEP? I can set up WEP on the router OK, but I'm not sure what
>I would have to set up on the Belkin settings.
Don't use WEP.
>3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
><http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
>which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good idea,
>and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
Haven't used it myself, but it reportedly works fine.
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>2. Set the encryption on the router to WEP rather than WPA when I want to use
>the notebook, and then switch back. I believe from my reading that Win98SE
>would work with WEP?
Windoze 98SE didn't have any native wireless support.
Encryption support comes with the wireless device.
What model and hardware version Belkin do you have?
>I can set up WEP on the router OK, but I'm not sure what
>I would have to set up on the Belkin settings.
Not much to setup on the Belkin. Just setup a profile in the wireless
client manager (or whatever it's called) and tell it to use WEP.
However, methinks the switching back and forth between WEP and WPA is
going to get old very quickly. I would do whatever it takes to make
everything use WPA encryption.
>3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
><http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
>which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good idea,
>and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
WSC works. After the trial period ends, the remaining software allows
the use of WPA. I used it for WPA on one of my antique WinME laptops
until recently (when the hard disk blew).
The other wireless client manager that adds WPA (and 802.1x
authentication) is Funk Software (now part of Juniper): http://www.juniper.net/customers/sup...oducts/oac.jsp
However, this costs about $50 after the 30 day trial.
>The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet slot in
>the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone can advise
>otherwise.
What maker and model laptop do you have?
Duz the notebook have a PCMCIA slot? If so, you can plug in either a
wired ethernet adapter or a wireless PCMCIA card. Verify that the
slot is either 16 bit PCMCIA or 32 bit CardBus. A 16 bit card will
fit in either slot, but a 32 bit CardBus card requires a CardBus slot
in the laptop.
Same with a USB port. However, be advised that if it's only USB 1.1
instead of 2.0, you'll be limited to about 11Mbits/sec connection
speed.
>Incidentally, the Belkin card registers (beeps on turn-on) and is shown in
>the taskbar, and its little green light is on. If I look at the card
>properties, it shows: Belkin 11Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Adapter. If I
>go to Start-Programs-Belkin PCMCIA WLAN Utility and select Belkin PCMCIA WLAN
>Monitor my Router SSID is shown but I get an Authentication Error with a
>message to Check Encryption Settings when I try to connect to the network.
Yep. That's what I would expect from a WPA encryption failure.
Hint: You'll get less general answer if you kindly supply the makers
and model numbers of your hardware.
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:01:34 +0100, Axel Hammerschmidt wrote
> (in article <1hjpo6x.1u55kgf93jp8eN%hlexa@hotmail.com>):
>
> > Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net> wrote:
<snip>
> > An alternative could be Buffalo's Client Manager 2 (v2.1). This works
> > with many old (non-Buffalo) PCMCIA cards providing WPA-PSK/TKIP, even
> > WPA-AES for my Gericom card with RTL8180 chipset.
>
> Thanks for the reply. I think I've tracked down Buffalo Client Manager 2
> (they are on Version 3 now) and will transfer it via my USB stick to see if
> it works.
NB! Version 3 will not work with non-Buffalo cards. You must use version
2.1 (or 2.0).
> > You haven't provided details about the Belkin card.
>
> Sorry, didn't realise those details would be useful. I think I have just
> about everything else written down. It's a Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless
> Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020 ver.2
Hmm! Atmel chipset. But try the Buffalo client (v2.1) anyway.
> >> The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet
> >> slot in the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone
> >> can advise otherwise.
> >
> > You could look for a PCMCIA to ethernet (cable) adapter.
>
> OK, thanks for the tip. There seem to be hundreds out there. Any particular
> recommendation?
They're all the same. PC Cards (and PCMCIA) are obsolete. Try and find
one that's cheap.
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:55:15 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjpt9d.khg5nzkugptqN%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>> OK, thanks for the tip. There seem to be hundreds out there. Any particular
>> recommendation?
>
>They're all the same. PC Cards (and PCMCIA) are obsolete. Try and find
>one that's cheap.
While most are sufficiently serviceable for this application, they
aren't "obsolete" and there are differences between different products.
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>I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly to my
>Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled. After extensive googling
>and reading on this newsgroup I realise that such an old OS as Win98SE is
>apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK. My current set-up is: Netgear Wireless
>ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with an iMac G5 connected through an Ethernet
>cable and an iMac G4 which connects (successfully) wirelessly through its
>built in Airport, Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin PCMCIA
>card which has in the past connected with the same model router (but one
>which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
>
>The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet slot in
>the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone can advise
>otherwise.
>
Or you can get a usb to ethernet adaptor.. I have them on my lap-top
they work great...
--
>Sally in Shropshire, UK
>bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
>Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
>http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk
>
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:55:15 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
> Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjpt9d.khg5nzkugptqN%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>
> >> OK, thanks for the tip. There seem to be hundreds out there. Any
> >> particular recommendation?
> >
> >They're all the same. PC Cards (and PCMCIA) are obsolete. Try and find
> >one that's cheap.
>
> While most are sufficiently serviceable for this application, they
> aren't "obsolete" and there are differences between different products.
Both Dell and Apple have gone from PC Cards to PC Express. We are after
all discussing a laptop interface. And as far as someone considering
wireless as an alternative, I respectfully disagree that the differences
has any significence.
"Sally Thompson" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C0FD2AF3002EABA3F0284530@news.individu al.net...
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:01:34 +0100, Axel Hammerschmidt wrote
> (in article <1hjpo6x.1u55kgf93jp8eN%hlexa@hotmail.com>):
>
> > Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly
to
> >> my
> >> Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled. After extensive
googling
> >> and reading on this newsgroup I realise that such an old OS as Win98SE
is
> >> apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK. My current set-up is: Netgear
Wireless
> >> ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with an iMac G5 connected through an
Ethernet
> >> cable and an iMac G4 which connects (successfully) wirelessly through
its
> >> built in Airport, Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin
> >> PCMCIA
> >> card which has in the past connected with the same model router (but
one
> >> which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
> >>
> >> I don't use the notebook a lot but I have found three options (apart
from
> >> throwing out the notebook!) and would be glad of some advice:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> 3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
> >>
> >> <http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
> >> which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good
idea,
> >> and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
> >
> > The link looks interesting.
> >
> > An alternative could be Buffalo's Client Manager 2 (v2.1). This works
> > with many old (non-Buffalo) PCMCIA cards providing WPA-PSK/TKIP, even
> > WPA-AES for my Gericom card with RTL8180 chipset.
>
> Thanks for the reply. I think I've tracked down Buffalo Client Manager 2
> (they are on Version 3 now) and will transfer it via my USB stick to see
if
> it works.
>
> > You haven't provided details about the Belkin card.
>
> Sorry, didn't realise those details would be useful. I think I have just
> about everything else written down. It's a Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps
Wireless
> Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020 ver.2
>
> >> The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet
slot
> >> in
> >> the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone can
advise
> >> otherwise.
> >
> > You could look for a PCMCIA to ethernet (cable) adapter.
>
> OK, thanks for the tip. There seem to be hundreds out there. Any
particular
> recommendation?
the ones i have used for a long time were Xircom (which i think got bought
by Intel). These were not cheap new, but since they were common should be
easy to find 2nd hand?
i have used these things since the days of windows 3.1 - the awkward bit
with all of the different design is the cable / connector.
The better ones use both slots of a dual PCMCIA slot, and had an RJ-45 jack
inside the card. The one i have here is CardBus (so 32 bit) model RBE-100.
all the various network adaptor vendors seemed to make these things, so
there are plenty of others around.
>
> >> Incidentally, the Belkin card registers (beeps on turn-on) and is shown
in
> >> the taskbar, and its little green light is on. If I look at the card
> >> properties, it shows: Belkin 11Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Adapter.
If I
> >> go to Start-Programs-Belkin PCMCIA WLAN Utility and select Belkin
PCMCIA
> >> WLAN
> >> Monitor my Router SSID is shown but I get an Authentication Error with
a
> >> message to Check Encryption Settings when I try to connect to the
network.
> >
> > Apparently you have a Win98 driver for the Belkin card, which is...?
>
> See above :-)
>
>
> --
> Sally in Shropshire, UK
> bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
> Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
> http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk
--
Regards
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:36:23 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjpyda.1kt2sesz2olfgN%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:55:15 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
>> Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjpt9d.khg5nzkugptqN%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>>
>> >> OK, thanks for the tip. There seem to be hundreds out there. Any
>> >> particular recommendation?
>> >
>> >They're all the same. PC Cards (and PCMCIA) are obsolete. Try and find
>> >one that's cheap.
>>
>> While most are sufficiently serviceable for this application, they
>> aren't "obsolete" and there are differences between different products.
>
>Both Dell and Apple have gone from PC Cards to PC Express. [snip]
Only on a few of the latest models.
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:33:27 GMT, njkat@eclipse.net (gene martinez)
wrote in <44d7950f.38390867@news.eclipse.net>:
>Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly to my
>>Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled. After extensive googling
>>and reading on this newsgroup I realise that such an old OS as Win98SE is
>>apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK. My current set-up is: Netgear Wireless
>>ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with an iMac G5 connected through an Ethernet
>>cable and an iMac G4 which connects (successfully) wirelessly through its
>>built in Airport, Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin PCMCIA
>>card which has in the past connected with the same model router (but one
>>which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
>
>>The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet slot in
>>the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone can advise
>>otherwise.
>>
>Or you can get a usb to ethernet adaptor.. I have them on my lap-top
>they work great...
Windows 98SE isn't great in the USB department.
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> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:36:23 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
> Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjpyda.1kt2sesz2olfgN%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>
> >John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:55:15 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
> >> Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjpt9d.khg5nzkugptqN%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
<snip>
> >> >They're all the same. PC Cards (and PCMCIA) are obsolete. Try and find
> >> >one that's cheap.
> >>
> >> While most are sufficiently serviceable for this application, they
> >> aren't "obsolete" and there are differences between different products.
> >
> >Both Dell and Apple have gone from PC Cards to PC Express. [snip]
>
> Only on a few of the latest models.
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:53:00 +0100, John Navas wrote
(in article <d3led2l3ui92mlf1cp0aq7nufg7k9jcfsk@4ax.com>):
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:39:32 +0100, Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net>
> wrote in <0001HW.C0FD0F3400282B18F0284530@news.individual.n et>:
>
>> I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly to
>> my
>> Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled. After extensive
>> googling
>> and reading on this newsgroup I realise that such an old OS as Win98SE is
>> apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK.
>
> No Microsoft support for WPA, and OS support has ended. Highly
> recommend upgrading to Windows XP, which works well, given enough
> memory, even on my old ThinkPad 600 (266 MHz Pentium II).
OK. Not sure whether there's enough memory on there atm - will check it
out.
>> My current set-up is: Netgear Wireless
>> ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with an iMac G5 connected through an Ethernet
>> cable and an iMac G4 which connects (successfully) wirelessly through its
>> built in Airport, Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin
>> PCMCIA
>> card which has in the past connected with the same model router (but one
>> which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
>>
>> I don't use the notebook a lot but I have found three options (apart from
>> throwing out the notebook!) and would be glad of some advice:
>>
>> 1. When I want to use the notebook, unplug my Netgear router and plug the
>> notebook into my old BT Voyager broadband modem using my old USB cable (the
>> notebook has no Ethernet slot). I'm not keen on this although it would be
>> a
>> work-around.
>
> USB is problematic on Windows 98. I'd suggest a PC Card Ethernet
> adapter. Just about any will do that comes with a Windows 98 driver.
> Newegg.com and Provantage are good online sources.
Yes, I think from your reply and the others this is the way to go. Have
found some on UK sites now I know what I'm looking for. I wasn't sure if I
could use such a thing.
>> 2. Set the encryption on the router to WEP rather than WPA when I want to
>> use
>> the notebook, and then switch back. I believe from my reading that Win98SE
>> would work with WEP? I can set up WEP on the router OK, but I'm not sure
>> what
>> I would have to set up on the Belkin settings.
>
> Don't use WEP.
Point taken.
>> 3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
>> <http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
>> which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good idea,
>> and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
>
> Haven't used it myself, but it reportedly works fine.
Thanks very much for your reply John; I have learnt a lot over the last few
weeks from your replies to other posters and from reading your links.
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:54:27 +0100, Jeff Liebermann wrote
(in article <e4red2d1mtqpkr6f0j406cc6l8db0eqhir@4ax.com>):
> Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net> hath wroth:
>
>> 2. Set the encryption on the router to WEP rather than WPA when I want to
>> use
>> the notebook, and then switch back. I believe from my reading that Win98SE
>> would work with WEP?
>
> Windoze 98SE didn't have any native wireless support.
> Encryption support comes with the wireless device.
> What model and hardware version Belkin do you have?
It's a Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020
ver.2
>> I can set up WEP on the router OK, but I'm not sure what
>> I would have to set up on the Belkin settings.
>
> Not much to setup on the Belkin. Just setup a profile in the wireless
> client manager (or whatever it's called) and tell it to use WEP.
> However, methinks the switching back and forth between WEP and WPA is
> going to get old very quickly. I would do whatever it takes to make
> everything use WPA encryption.
I think you are right but I thought it might be worth a shot!
>
>> 3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
>> <http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
>> which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good idea,
>> and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
>
> WSC works. After the trial period ends, the remaining software allows
> the use of WPA. I used it for WPA on one of my antique WinME laptops
> until recently (when the hard disk blew).
>
> The other wireless client manager that adds WPA (and 802.1x
> authentication) is Funk Software (now part of Juniper):
> http://www.juniper.net/customers/sup...oducts/oac.jsp
> However, this costs about $50 after the 30 day trial.
Thanks. Good to know it works - and I've also looked at the Funk Software
link.
>> The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet slot
>> in
>> the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless someone can advise
>> otherwise.
>
> What maker and model laptop do you have?
Sorry, it was in my OP but has got snipped. It is a Compaq Armada M300.
> Duz the notebook have a PCMCIA slot? If so, you can plug in either a
> wired ethernet adapter or a wireless PCMCIA card. Verify that the
> slot is either 16 bit PCMCIA or 32 bit CardBus. A 16 bit card will
> fit in either slot, but a 32 bit CardBus card requires a CardBus slot
> in the laptop.
Yes, it has a PCMCIA slot but the wireless PCMCIA card I have been trying
(Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020 ver.2)
is not suitable since the Win98SE OS is not compatible with WPA. However, I
assume that if I plug in a wired ethernet adaptor then that problem will go
away. I'll look at the manual but I rather assume it is a 16 bit PCMCIA.
> Same with a USB port. However, be advised that if it's only USB 1.1
> instead of 2.0, you'll be limited to about 11Mbits/sec connection
> speed.
>
<snip>
>
> Hint: You'll get less general answer if you kindly supply the makers
> and model numbers of your hardware.
Yes, I'm sorry about that but I didn't realise it would be relevant to the
question. Thanks so much for your explanation.
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:32:11 +0100, Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net>
wrote in <0001HW.C0FD61DB0034CFE4F0284530@news.individual.n et>:
>Thanks very much for your reply John; I have learnt a lot over the last few
>weeks from your replies to other posters and from reading your links.
Glad it helped.
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:50:08 +0100, stephen wrote
(in article <QPMBg.31913$WY2.25772@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>):
> "Sally Thompson" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C0FD2AF3002EABA3F0284530@news.individu al.net...
>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:01:34 +0100, Axel Hammerschmidt wrote
>> (in article <1hjpo6x.1u55kgf93jp8eN%hlexa@hotmail.com>):
>>
>>> Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect wirelessly
> to
>>>> my
>>>> Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled.
<snip>
>>>
>>> You could look for a PCMCIA to ethernet (cable) adapter.
>>
>> OK, thanks for the tip. There seem to be hundreds out there. Any
> particular
>> recommendation?
>
> the ones i have used for a long time were Xircom (which i think got bought
> by Intel). These were not cheap new, but since they were common should be
> easy to find 2nd hand?
Yes, it seems Xircom is now an Intel company. The cards are pretty cheap new
so probably won't go the second hand route, although I certainly don't want
to spend too much on this niggling little problem<g>
> i have used these things since the days of windows 3.1 - the awkward bit
> with all of the different design is the cable / connector.
>
> The better ones use both slots of a dual PCMCIA slot, and had an RJ-45 jack
> inside the card. The one i have here is CardBus (so 32 bit) model RBE-100.
I've now checked the manual for my notebook and I can use 32 bit CardBus or
16 bit.
Sally Thompson wrote:
> I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect
> wirelessly to my Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled.
> After extensive googling and reading on this newsgroup I realise that
> such an old OS as Win98SE is apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK. My
> current set-up is: Netgear Wireless ADSL Firewall Router DG834G with
> an iMac G5 connected through an Ethernet cable and an iMac G4 which
> connects (successfully) wirelessly through its built in Airport,
> Compaq Armada notebook running Win98SE with a Belkin PCMCIA card
> which has in the past connected with the same model router (but one
> which didn't have any security enabled) in another house.
>
> I don't use the notebook a lot but I have found three options (apart
> from throwing out the notebook!) and would be glad of some advice:
>
> 1. When I want to use the notebook, unplug my Netgear router and plug
> the notebook into my old BT Voyager broadband modem using my old USB
> cable (the notebook has no Ethernet slot). I'm not keen on this
> although it would be a work-around.
>
> 2. Set the encryption on the router to WEP rather than WPA when I
> want to use the notebook, and then switch back. I believe from my
> reading that Win98SE would work with WEP? I can set up WEP on the
> router OK, but I'm not sure what I would have to set up on the Belkin
> settings.
>
> 3. I have found some downloadable *WPA software* from McAfee:
>
> <http://www.wirelesssecuritycorp.com/wsc/public/WPAAssistant.do>
> which apparently enables a Win98 computer to use WPA. Is this a good
> idea, and does anyone know if it would work, or is there a better way?
>
> The notebook doesn't have to connect wirelessly, but with no Ethernet
> slot in the notebook I believe there is no other choice, unless
> someone can advise otherwise.
>
> Incidentally, the Belkin card registers (beeps on turn-on) and is
> shown in the taskbar, and its little green light is on. If I look at
> the card properties, it shows: Belkin 11Mbps Wireless Notebook
> Network Adapter. If I go to Start-Programs-Belkin PCMCIA WLAN
> Utility and select Belkin PCMCIA WLAN Monitor my Router SSID is shown
> but I get an Authentication Error with a message to Check Encryption
> Settings when I try to connect to the network.
>
> I'm a novice at all this so having trouble fully grasping some of the
> technical terms and issues.
You left off the one thing that will probably be the easiest, work
absolutely and possily make sense.... Why not upgrade the OS on your laptop
to something that is current, rather than use the obsolete 98?
Much of the stuff out there nowadays specifically will not work with
win98... Why not dump it?
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 02:59:59 +0100, Peter Pan wrote
(in article <GcmdnR3WRtm7bUrZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com>):
> Sally Thompson wrote:
>> I am having a problem getting my Win98SE notebook to connect
>> wirelessly to my Netgear router, which has WPA-PSK security enabled.
>> After extensive googling and reading on this newsgroup I realise that
>> such an old OS as Win98SE is apparently incompatible with WPA-PSK.
<snip>
> You left off the one thing that will probably be the easiest, work
> absolutely and possily make sense.... Why not upgrade the OS on your laptop
> to something that is current, rather than use the obsolete 98?
>
> Much of the stuff out there nowadays specifically will not work with
> win98... Why not dump it?
Several reasons really. I use this notebook only occasionally and don't
really want to spend too much money on it. To upgrade to Windows XP would
cost me about 70 pounds sterling, whereas a PC ethernet card would be a lot
less than that (and I already have a spare cable). I also don't like XP!
Last but not least, upgrades come on CD-ROM and there's no CD-ROM drive,
which would mean downloading it from somewhere, but I can't access the
internet on the notebook at the moment because ... this is where I came
in<g>. Also, of course, until I started trying to find out why the connection
didn't work, I didn't realise that Win98 was never going to work with WPA, so
I hadn't thought there was any need to upgrade.
However, I do take your point, which was made elsewhere in this thread, and
may think more seriously about an upgrade. Thanks for the reply.
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:44:04 +0100, Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net>
wrote:
>It's a Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020
>ver.2
Yep, no WPA drivers available (that I can find).
>Sorry, it was in my OP but has got snipped. It is a Compaq Armada M300.
Hmmm... PII/333MHz. It will probably run W2K or XP with 256 or
512MBytes of RAM. Perhaps an OS update might be a better way?
>Yes, it has a PCMCIA slot but the wireless PCMCIA card I have been trying
>(Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020 ver.2)
>is not suitable since the Win98SE OS is not compatible with WPA.
Backwards. There's no compatibility issues. The problem is that
Belkin didn't see fit to include WPA support in this product. In XP,
it's part of the operating system.
The big problem(tm) you're going to have is finding a 16bit PCMCIA
card that supports WPA. There are a few (that I can't find), but most
are 32bit PC Card interfaces that won't fit or work. I'm not sure but
what I found with Google seems to indicate a 32bit PC Card slot.
>However, I
>assume that if I plug in a wired ethernet adaptor then that problem will go
>away. I'll look at the manual but I rather assume it is a 16 bit PCMCIA.
Just find a 32bit card and try to shove it in the slot. If it doesn't
fit, it's a 16 bit slot.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:44:04 +0100, Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >It's a Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020
> >ver.2
>
> Yep, no WPA drivers available (that I can find).
It's not the driver, it's the supplicant.
> >Sorry, it was in my OP but has got snipped. It is a Compaq Armada M300.
>
> Hmmm... PII/333MHz. It will probably run W2K or XP with 256 or
> 512MBytes of RAM. Perhaps an OS update might be a better way?
How much do you pay for your OS updates?
> >Yes, it has a PCMCIA slot but the wireless PCMCIA card I have been trying
> >(Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020 ver.2)
> >is not suitable since the Win98SE OS is not compatible with WPA.
>
> Backwards. There's no compatibility issues. The problem is that
> Belkin didn't see fit to include WPA support in this product. In XP,
> it's part of the operating system.
>
> The big problem(tm) you're going to have is finding a 16bit PCMCIA
> card that supports WPA. There are a few (that I can't find), but most
> are 32bit PC Card interfaces that won't fit or work. I'm not sure but
> what I found with Google seems to indicate a 32bit PC Card slot.
Lots of cards support WPA when used with Buffalo's Client Manager 2
under Windows 2K, and Win98SE - according to the readme. D-Link DWL-650+
and Belkin F5D7010 cards do (under W2K) for a start.
> >However, I assume that if I plug in a wired ethernet adaptor then that
> >problem will go away. I'll look at the manual but I rather assume it is
> >a 16 bit PCMCIA.
>
> Just find a 32bit card and try to shove it in the slot. If it doesn't
> fit, it's a 16 bit slot.
If it doesn't fit, it's because the voltage (5/3.3) doesn't match.
>Lots of cards support WPA when used with Buffalo's Client Manager 2
>under Windows 2K, and Win98SE - according to the readme. D-Link DWL-650+
>and Belkin F5D7010 cards do (under W2K) for a start.
I've never tried it but as you previously mentioned, only the older
versions work with non-Buffalo hardware.
>> Just find a 32bit card and try to shove it in the slot. If it doesn't
>> fit, it's a 16 bit slot.
>If it doesn't fit, it's because the voltage (5/3.3) doesn't match.
Wrong. It literally doesn't fit in the slots on the edge of the card.
A 16 bit card will fit in a 32 bit slot, but not the other way around.
Try it and see for thyself.
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 01:55:14 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjs4ph.1buk0nu166aq7kN%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:44:04 +0100, Sally Thompson <me2@privacy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >It's a Belkin 802.11b/11 Mbps Wireless Notebook Network Card, Model F5D6020
>> >ver.2
>>
>> Yep, no WPA drivers available (that I can find).
>
>It's not the driver, it's the supplicant.
If there was a WPA supplicant, it would be included in what the vendor
calls the "device driver". Clever technical terms only serve to confuse
non-technical types.
>> >Sorry, it was in my OP but has got snipped. It is a Compaq Armada M300.
>>
>> Hmmm... PII/333MHz. It will probably run W2K or XP with 256 or
>> 512MBytes of RAM. Perhaps an OS update might be a better way?
Better 512 MB (or as close to that as practical).
>How much do you pay for your OS updates?
Presumably the same as everybody else. Your point?
>> Just find a 32bit card and try to shove it in the slot. If it doesn't
>> fit, it's a 16 bit slot.
>
>If it doesn't fit, it's because the voltage (5/3.3) doesn't match.
True, but Jeff is essentially correct in that all Cardbus cards are 3.3
volt, and if the slot supports 3.3 volts, then it almost certainly
supports Cardbus. I don't know of a 3.3 volt slot that isn't Cardbus --
do you? (Both 3.3 volt and Cardbus were introduced in PC Card Standard
Release 5.0)
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 01:55:14 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
> Hammerschmidt) wrote:
>
> >> Yep, no WPA drivers available (that I can find).
> >It's not the driver, it's the supplicant.
>
> The supplicant comes with the driver.
Makes no difference. It's still the supplicant. Funk Software's Odyssey
client and WZC do not.
> >How much do you pay for your OS updates?
>
> Pay? Well, if I'm desperate $100 of XP Home Upgrade at Staples.
> eBay is full of counterfeits so I avoid those.
Older WiFi (802.11b) and PCMCIA to ethernet (cable) cards come as low as
$5.
<snip>
> >Lots of cards support WPA when used with Buffalo's Client Manager 2
> >under Windows 2K, and Win98SE - according to the readme. D-Link DWL-650+
> >and Belkin F5D7010 cards do (under W2K) for a start.
>
> I've never tried it but as you previously mentioned, only the older
> versions work with non-Buffalo hardware.
Unlike Client Manager 2, Client Manager 3 now works with most* wireless
client adapters from any manufacturer. [...]
[* most/any: Buffalo Technology does not guarantee compatibility with
all cards, but based on our testing it works with majority of devices
available on the market today. Please check back for a database of
tested cards; we will update the list frequently.]
<unquote>
I think this refers to when the client is used with a Buffalo access
point or wireless router and a third party wireless card. My experience
is, that it (v3) doesn't work when neither the access point nor the card
is from Buffalo.
BTW. I have not been able to find any database of tested cards at
Buffalo's site.
Client manager 3 is a MeetingHouse product.
Client manager 2 works with (some) cards/access point not from Buffalo.
And version 3 doesn't work under Win98, version 2 does.
Client manager 2 is no longer on Buffalo's site - I can't find it there
- so you have to look for it at a driver site.
> >> Just find a 32bit card and try to shove it in the slot. If it doesn't
> >> fit, it's a 16 bit slot.
>
> >If it doesn't fit, it's because the voltage (5/3.3) doesn't match.
>
> Wrong. It literally doesn't fit in the slots on the edge of the card.
> A 16 bit card will fit in a 32 bit slot, but not the other way around.
> Try it and see for thyself.
>Makes no difference. It's still the supplicant. Funk Software's Odyssey
>client and WZC do not.
Once upon a time, driver meant an NDIS or ODI library. These days, it
includes a client manager, configuration utility, monitoring software,
connection manager, install package, and supplicant. When looking for
such things on the vendors web pile, I look for a driver.
What do you mean by "...Odyssey client and WZC do not." Are you
suggesting that they are not supplicants?
Incidentally, I think the term supplicant is stupid. In other drivers
(i.e. VPN), it's called a "shim", which is both more appropriate and
easier to spell.
>Older WiFi (802.11b) and PCMCIA to ethernet (cable) cards come as low as
>$5.
True. I was talking about finding an 802.11g card with a 16 bit
interface. There were a few, but I can't find any at this time.
>> Wrong. It literally doesn't fit in the slots on the edge of the card.
>> A 16 bit card will fit in a 32 bit slot, but not the other way around.
>> Try it and see for thyself.
>That's because of the voltage, not the bus width.
Just try it and see for thyself. A 32 bit card will not fit in a 16
bit slot. It's more than just the power supply voltage. There are
substantial differences in connector pinout function.
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:44:16 +0100, Jeff Liebermann wrote
(in article <30pjd2d5fu41q461aoehna01jner6hc8ai@4ax.com>):
> hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel Hammerschmidt) hath wroth:
>
>>> The supplicant comes with the driver.
>
>> Makes no difference. It's still the supplicant. Funk Software's Odyssey
>> client and WZC do not.
>
> Once upon a time, driver meant an NDIS or ODI library. These days, it
> includes a client manager, configuration utility, monitoring software,
> connection manager, install package, and supplicant. When looking for
> such things on the vendors web pile, I look for a driver.
>
> What do you mean by "...Odyssey client and WZC do not." Are you
> suggesting that they are not supplicants?
>
> Incidentally, I think the term supplicant is stupid. In other drivers
> (i.e. VPN), it's called a "shim", which is both more appropriate and
> easier to spell.
>
>> Older WiFi (802.11b) and PCMCIA to ethernet (cable) cards come as low as
>> $5.
>
> True. I was talking about finding an 802.11g card with a 16 bit
> interface. There were a few, but I can't find any at this time.
>
>> Client manager 3 is a MeetingHouse product.
>
> That's interesting. They are getting Borged by Cisco.
> http://www.mtghouse.com
>
>>> Wrong. It literally doesn't fit in the slots on the edge of the card.
>>> A 16 bit card will fit in a 32 bit slot, but not the other way around.
>>> Try it and see for thyself.
>
>> That's because of the voltage, not the bus width.
>
> Just try it and see for thyself. A 32 bit card will not fit in a 16
> bit slot. It's more than just the power supply voltage. There are
> substantial differences in connector pinout function.
>
>
Having checked the notebook manual, the slot will take either card. I've
found one here that looks the right sort of thing:
<http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47109&&source=14&doy=7m8>
or
<http://tinyurl.com/leqn9>
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:12:28 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjt112.1a6f8f8shadp8N%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>Client manager 2 is no longer on Buffalo's site - I can't find it there
>- so you have to look for it at a driver site.
Which would be a violation of copyright unless explicitly authorized by
Buffalo (or the actual copyright holder), which it probably isn't.
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:12:28 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjt112.1a6f8f8shadp8N%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 01:55:14 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
>> Hammerschmidt) wrote:
>>
>> >> Yep, no WPA drivers available (that I can find).
>> >It's not the driver, it's the supplicant.
>>
>> The supplicant comes with the driver.
>
>Makes no difference. It's still the supplicant. Funk Software's Odyssey
>client and WZC do not.
Now Juniper Networks Odyssey Access Client.
<http://www.juniper.net/customers/support/products/oac.jsp>
Overview
Funk Software's Odyssey® products have been renamed to Juniper
Networks Odyssey Access Client (OAC) and Odyssey Access Server (OAS).
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
> hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel Hammerschmidt) hath wroth:
>
> >> The supplicant comes with the driver.
>
> >Makes no difference. It's still the supplicant. Funk Software's Odyssey
> >client and WZC do not.
>
> Once upon a time, driver meant an NDIS or ODI library. These days, it
> includes a client manager, configuration utility, monitoring software,
> connection manager, install package, and supplicant. When looking for
> such things on the vendors web pile, I look for a driver.
>
> What do you mean by "...Odyssey client and WZC do not." Are you
> suggesting that they are not supplicants?
They both come separately from the driver for the card.
<snip>
> >> Wrong. It literally doesn't fit in the slots on the edge of the card.
> >> A 16 bit card will fit in a 32 bit slot, but not the other way around.
> >> Try it and see for thyself.
>
> >That's because of the voltage, not the bus width.
>
> Just try it and see for thyself. A 32 bit card will not fit in a 16
> bit slot. It's more than just the power supply voltage. There are
> substantial differences in connector pinout function.
It's the voltage. The cards are keyed at the front edges, so a 3.3 Volt
only card doesn't fit into a 5 Volt slot. Taker a look at the heights of
the right key (looking at the card from the direction of the connector)
and note the difference between a 3.3 Volt only card and a 3.3/5 Volt or
5 Volt card. The 3.3 Volt only cards have the heigher key. Both the
3.3/5 Volt and the 5 Volt cards have the lower key. Otherwise they are
the same.
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:12:28 +0200, hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel
> Hammerschmidt) wrote in <1hjt112.1a6f8f8shadp8N%hlexa@hotmail.com>:
>
> >Client manager 2 is no longer on Buffalo's site - I can't find it there
> >- so you have to look for it at a driver site.
>
> Which would be a violation of copyright unless explicitly authorized by
> Buffalo (or the actual copyright holder), which it probably isn't.
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