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Old 08-14-2006, 05:33 PM
dyniper
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Default Wireless AP Client configuration

Hi everyone, this is my first post here, and if i'm not in the right
group please be kind to tell me what group I should be posting. This
said, here is my problem:

I want to configure a wireless network between two building in this
way:

in building [A] I have:
-A wireless AP router with a wireless G network. (192.168.0.x LAN &
WLAN network)
-This is the router that have access to internet.
-Wired and wireless client

In building [B] I have:
-A Dlink DWL-7100AP ( a wireless AP a/g)
-A Dlink 704P router (192.168.2.x LAN network)
-Wired clients only

What i done (and that don't work yet) is:
-I configured the 7100AP in "AP Client" mode and connected to the
building [A] wireless network.
-I then plugged the the 7100AP in the wan port on my DLink704P
router. But even if i configure the WAN ip by DHCP or static, i can't
have access to internet. The best i done was access the 7100AP with a
wired client on the 704P and 7100AP in the Wan port of the 704P.

I just want to get internet access of the other network, i dont care
accessing client in the building [A].

Following Dlink the manual of the 7100AP, the "AP client" mode is to
convert any non wireless device in a wireless one. So if follow their
logic, it can serve by example to plug your playstation2 wirelessly to
your wireless network. In this manner, the network adapter of the ps2
will ask an IP to the DHCP server of the AP Master using the AP Client.
In the same manner, i thought that in my setup, the 704P rooter should
ask the 7100AP a wan IP, and the 7100AP should follow the request to
his AP Master network.

But right now, i can't get this to work. So first of all, is what i'm
trying to do possible ???
If so, what am i doing wrong ?

Hoping that I have been precise enough and that you guys can help me !

Regards, Arthur




(internet)======(AP Router Wireless G) - - - - - - - (Dlink DWL-7100 AP
(in client mode)


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Old 08-14-2006, 06:22 PM
John Navas
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Default Re: Wireless AP Client configuration

On 14 Aug 2006 10:33:44 -0700, "dyniper" <dyniper@gmail.com> wrote in
<1155576824.439354.290040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>:

>Hi everyone, this is my first post here, and if i'm not in the right
>group please be kind to tell me what group I should be posting. This
>said, here is my problem:
>
>I want to configure a wireless network between two building in this
>way:
>
>in building [A] I have:
> -A wireless AP router with a wireless G network. (192.168.0.x LAN &
>WLAN network)
> -This is the router that have access to internet.
> -Wired and wireless client
>
>In building [B] I have:
> -A Dlink DWL-7100AP ( a wireless AP a/g)
> -A Dlink 704P router (192.168.2.x LAN network)
> -Wired clients only
>
>What i done (and that don't work yet) is:
> -I configured the 7100AP in "AP Client" mode and connected to the
>building [A] wireless network.
> -I then plugged the the 7100AP in the wan port on my DLink704P
>router. But even if i configure the WAN ip by DHCP or static, i can't
>have access to internet. The best i done was access the 7100AP with a
>wired client on the 704P and 7100AP in the Wan port of the 704P.


You don't need or want a router in building B since you already have a
router in the building A -- just put switches or hubs behind the 7100AP,
and computers in building B will be configured by the router in building
A and become part of the same network.

When a 2nd router is put behind a first router you wind up with "double
NAT" which can usually be made to work, but which will interfere with
things like VPN and SSL.

>I just want to get internet access of the other network, i dont care
>accessing client in the building [A].


With consumer-grade gear you're going to essentially make them all part
of the same network. With business grade gear you could isolate them in
separate network segments/secutity zones.

>Following Dlink the manual of the 7100AP, the "AP client" mode is to
>convert any non wireless device in a wireless one.


It's actually a wired-to-wireless bridge.

>So if follow their
>logic, it can serve by example to plug your playstation2 wirelessly to
>your wireless network.


Or any other Ethernet device.

>In this manner, the network adapter of the ps2
>will ask an IP to the DHCP server of the AP Master using the AP Client.


Yep.

>In the same manner, i thought that in my setup, the 704P rooter should
>ask the 7100AP a wan IP, and the 7100AP should follow the request to
>his AP Master network.


Yep, although you don't really want to do that, as explained above.

>But right now, i can't get this to work. So first of all, is what i'm
>trying to do possible ???
>If so, what am i doing wrong ?
>
>Hoping that I have been precise enough and that you guys can help me !


See above.

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John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:52 PM
dyniper
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Default Re: Wireless AP Client configuration

First, thank you for your quick answer, I really appreciate it.
I'll try what you have told me (using a switch or hub in building B
connected to the 7100AP.

But I have one more interrogation: What LAN ip I have to put in the
7100AP ?? Static in the network of the Master AP? or with Dynamic IP ?

And the configuration that i wanted to do was to hide the PCs of
building B network from client of building A network. And I dont think
i will be able to do it with the setup you suggest to me.

Best Regards, Arthur

John Navas wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2006 10:33:44 -0700, "dyniper" <dyniper@gmail.com> wrote in
> <1155576824.439354.290040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>:
>
> >Hi everyone, this is my first post here, and if i'm not in the right
> >group please be kind to tell me what group I should be posting. This
> >said, here is my problem:
> >
> >I want to configure a wireless network between two building in this
> >way:
> >
> >in building [A] I have:
> > -A wireless AP router with a wireless G network. (192.168.0.x LAN &
> >WLAN network)
> > -This is the router that have access to internet.
> > -Wired and wireless client
> >
> >In building [B] I have:
> > -A Dlink DWL-7100AP ( a wireless AP a/g)
> > -A Dlink 704P router (192.168.2.x LAN network)
> > -Wired clients only
> >
> >What i done (and that don't work yet) is:
> > -I configured the 7100AP in "AP Client" mode and connected to the
> >building [A] wireless network.
> > -I then plugged the the 7100AP in the wan port on my DLink704P
> >router. But even if i configure the WAN ip by DHCP or static, i can't
> >have access to internet. The best i done was access the 7100AP with a
> >wired client on the 704P and 7100AP in the Wan port of the 704P.

>
> You don't need or want a router in building B since you already have a
> router in the building A -- just put switches or hubs behind the 7100AP,
> and computers in building B will be configured by the router in building
> A and become part of the same network.
>
> When a 2nd router is put behind a first router you wind up with "double
> NAT" which can usually be made to work, but which will interfere with
> things like VPN and SSL.
>
> >I just want to get internet access of the other network, i dont care
> >accessing client in the building [A].

>
> With consumer-grade gear you're going to essentially make them all part
> of the same network. With business grade gear you could isolate them in
> separate network segments/secutity zones.
>
> >Following Dlink the manual of the 7100AP, the "AP client" mode is to
> >convert any non wireless device in a wireless one.

>
> It's actually a wired-to-wireless bridge.
>
> >So if follow their
> >logic, it can serve by example to plug your playstation2 wirelessly to
> >your wireless network.

>
> Or any other Ethernet device.
>
> >In this manner, the network adapter of the ps2
> >will ask an IP to the DHCP server of the AP Master using the AP Client.

>
> Yep.
>
> >In the same manner, i thought that in my setup, the 704P rooter should
> >ask the 7100AP a wan IP, and the 7100AP should follow the request to
> >his AP Master network.

>
> Yep, although you don't really want to do that, as explained above.
>
> >But right now, i can't get this to work. So first of all, is what i'm
> >trying to do possible ???
> >If so, what am i doing wrong ?
> >
> >Hoping that I have been precise enough and that you guys can help me !

>
> See above.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>



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Old 08-14-2006, 10:03 PM
John Navas
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Default Re: Wireless AP Client configuration

On 14 Aug 2006 14:52:16 -0700, "dyniper" <dyniper@gmail.com> wrote in
<1155592336.652079.277560@75g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>:

>First, thank you for your quick answer, I really appreciate it.
>I'll try what you have told me (using a switch or hub in building B
>connected to the 7100AP.
>
>But I have one more interrogation: What LAN ip I have to put in the
>7100AP ?? Static in the network of the Master AP? or with Dynamic IP ?


The 7100AP is a bridge, so the only IP is the web management interface,
which could be configured for the same netblock as the LAN/WLAN, but not
to conflict with any other device. The best way to do that is by DHCP,
especially if the main router can be configured to reserve an IP for
that MAC address. Or you could manually configure it for a different
netblock, but then you'd have to switch the IP to match on whatever PC
you want to use for administration. But there should be little or no
administration once everything is working, so that shouldn't be a big
deal.

>And the configuration that i wanted to do was to hide the PCs of
>building B network from client of building A network. And I dont think
>i will be able to do it with the setup you suggest to me.


Correct, but to do that would take a considerably different setup. As I
wrote before:

With consumer-grade gear you're going to essentially make them all part
of the same network. With business grade gear you could isolate them in
separate network segments/secutity zones.

>Best Regards, Arthur
>
>John Navas wrote:
>> On 14 Aug 2006 10:33:44 -0700, "dyniper" <dyniper@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <1155576824.439354.290040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>:
>>
>> >Hi everyone, this is my first post here, and if i'm not in the right
>> >group please be kind to tell me what group I should be posting. This
>> >said, here is my problem:
>> >
>> >I want to configure a wireless network between two building in this
>> >way:
>> >
>> >in building [A] I have:
>> > -A wireless AP router with a wireless G network. (192.168.0.x LAN &
>> >WLAN network)
>> > -This is the router that have access to internet.
>> > -Wired and wireless client
>> >
>> >In building [B] I have:
>> > -A Dlink DWL-7100AP ( a wireless AP a/g)
>> > -A Dlink 704P router (192.168.2.x LAN network)
>> > -Wired clients only
>> >
>> >What i done (and that don't work yet) is:
>> > -I configured the 7100AP in "AP Client" mode and connected to the
>> >building [A] wireless network.
>> > -I then plugged the the 7100AP in the wan port on my DLink704P
>> >router. But even if i configure the WAN ip by DHCP or static, i can't
>> >have access to internet. The best i done was access the 7100AP with a
>> >wired client on the 704P and 7100AP in the Wan port of the 704P.

>>
>> You don't need or want a router in building B since you already have a
>> router in the building A -- just put switches or hubs behind the 7100AP,
>> and computers in building B will be configured by the router in building
>> A and become part of the same network.
>>
>> When a 2nd router is put behind a first router you wind up with "double
>> NAT" which can usually be made to work, but which will interfere with
>> things like VPN and SSL.
>>
>> >I just want to get internet access of the other network, i dont care
>> >accessing client in the building [A].

>>
>> With consumer-grade gear you're going to essentially make them all part
>> of the same network. With business grade gear you could isolate them in
>> separate network segments/secutity zones.
>>
>> >Following Dlink the manual of the 7100AP, the "AP client" mode is to
>> >convert any non wireless device in a wireless one.

>>
>> It's actually a wired-to-wireless bridge.
>>
>> >So if follow their
>> >logic, it can serve by example to plug your playstation2 wirelessly to
>> >your wireless network.

>>
>> Or any other Ethernet device.
>>
>> >In this manner, the network adapter of the ps2
>> >will ask an IP to the DHCP server of the AP Master using the AP Client.

>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> >In the same manner, i thought that in my setup, the 704P rooter should
>> >ask the 7100AP a wan IP, and the 7100AP should follow the request to
>> >his AP Master network.

>>
>> Yep, although you don't really want to do that, as explained above.
>>
>> >But right now, i can't get this to work. So first of all, is what i'm
>> >trying to do possible ???
>> >If so, what am i doing wrong ?
>> >
>> >Hoping that I have been precise enough and that you guys can help me !

>>
>> See above.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
>> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
>> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
>> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>


--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

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Old 08-21-2006, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Wireless AP Client configuration

Thanks a lot John, with your tips i've been able to configure the
network exactly as i wanted: 2 different networks with networks A for
WAN of the network B.

Thanks again, Arthur


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