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Old 11-23-2006, 01:06 PM
Louis Ohland
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Default Wireless between two Buffalo WHR-G54S

I have two Buffalo Tech WHR-G54S Router/Access Points.

One is set up as a wireless router. DHCP on, wireless enabled, SSID
changed from default. The WAN port is plugged into my Ambit cable modem,
my computer is plugged into a LAN port. I have the internet (this is
coming through it).

The second WHR-G54S is to be an access point upstairs. I have tested
it hooked up to a LAN port on the first router, and it works.

What do I need to set between the two WHR-G54S so that I can set the
second up as an access point upstairs?

SSIDs should be the same
Security on both needs to match (in this case AES)
DHCP on downstairs, DHCP off upstairs.

Anything that is missing?

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Old 11-23-2006, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Wireless between two Buffalo WHR-G54S

On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:06:50 -0600, Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net>
wrote in <M1h9h.83$pH.33@newsfe05.lga>:

>I have two Buffalo Tech WHR-G54S Router/Access Points.
>
> One is set up as a wireless router. DHCP on, wireless enabled, SSID
>changed from default. The WAN port is plugged into my Ambit cable modem,
>my computer is plugged into a LAN port. I have the internet (this is
>coming through it).
>
> The second WHR-G54S is to be an access point upstairs. I have tested
>it hooked up to a LAN port on the first router, and it works.
>
> What do I need to set between the two WHR-G54S so that I can set the
>second up as an access point upstairs?


Either:
* Cable connection between them (Ethernet, power line networking, phone
line networking, TV coax networking)
* Upstairs unit configured as a repeater.(if possible, cuts wireless
speed in half)

>SSIDs should be the same
>Security on both needs to match (in this case AES)
>DHCP on downstairs, DHCP off upstairs.
>
> Anything that is missing?


Connecting the two units.

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Old 11-23-2006, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Wireless between two Buffalo WHR-G54S

On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:21:36 -0700, massello@newsguy.com (Neill
Massello) wrote in <1hp9fny.1agyhva16qoi4N%massello@newsguy.com>:

>Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I have two Buffalo Tech WHR-G54S Router/Access Points.
>>
>> One is set up as a wireless router. DHCP on, wireless enabled, SSID
>> changed from default. The WAN port is plugged into my Ambit cable modem,
>> my computer is plugged into a LAN port. I have the internet (this is
>> coming through it).
>>
>> The second WHR-G54S is to be an access point upstairs. I have tested
>> it hooked up to a LAN port on the first router, and it works.
>>
>> What do I need to set between the two WHR-G54S so that I can set the
>> second up as an access point upstairs?
>>
>> SSIDs should be the same
>> Security on both needs to match (in this case AES)
>> DHCP on downstairs, DHCP off upstairs.
>>
>> Anything that is missing?

>
>If the two units will not be connected via Ethernet, you'll need to
>configure them for WDS, described in the manual starting on page 67.
>This will require that both be set to the same channel and will, if
>using the stock Buffalo firmware, limit the security method to WEP.


Which isn't real security, and thus isn't advisable.

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Old 11-24-2006, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Wireless between two Buffalo WHR-G54S

Do tell about other than "stock firmware".

Neill Massello wrote:
> using the stock Buffalo firmware, limit the security method to WEP.


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Old 11-24-2006, 06:33 PM
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Buffalo can run 3rd-party firmware (e.g., OpenWRT) and is a good choice
for doing so.

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 09:14:19 -0600, Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net>
wrote in <h%D9h.1833$Ll4.773@newsfe04.lga>:

>Do tell about other than "stock firmware".
>
>Neill Massello wrote:
>> using the stock Buffalo firmware, limit the security method to WEP.


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Old 11-24-2006, 06:48 PM
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Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> hath wroth:

>Do tell about other than "stock firmware".


See list at:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54g#Third-party_firmware_projects>
I'm partial to DD-WRT and OpenWRT.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT>

Installing DD-WRT on Buffalo products is a bit tricky as Buffalo
encrypts their firmware. See:
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Buffalo_WHR-G54S.2C_WHR-HP-G54_and_WZR-RS-G54>
You'll also need to do some "boardflags" tweaking to get it to work.

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Old 11-24-2006, 07:33 PM
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Louis Ohland wrote:
> Do tell about other than "stock firmware".


http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

works great for your router:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php...and_WZR-RS-G54


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Old 11-24-2006, 07:40 PM
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http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge

This is what I'm looking for to the "T". Look at the "Practical Example"
further down the page.

I already pulled the WHR-G54S section out from the DD-WRT install page
and am getting ready to PDF it. I see the bummer part on TFTP for the
initial flash to DD-WRT, but subsequent flashes may be done with http.

I think the boardflags were for the WHR-HP units only, and it was to
enable the on-board amplifier.

After a bit more surfing, I'll set up my ThinkPad 760XL (cutting edge!)
to flash one of my WHR-G54S, that way my original one will still get me
to the web if need be.

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> hath wroth:
>
>> Do tell about other than "stock firmware".

>
> See list at:
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54g#Third-party_firmware_projects>
> I'm partial to DD-WRT and OpenWRT.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT>
>
> Installing DD-WRT on Buffalo products is a bit tricky as Buffalo
> encrypts their firmware. See:
> <http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Buffalo_WHR-G54S.2C_WHR-HP-G54_and_WZR-RS-G54>
> You'll also need to do some "boardflags" tweaking to get it to work.
>


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Old 11-24-2006, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Wireless between two Buffalo WHR-G54S

Bridge Install
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Bridge_Install

Louis Ohland wrote:
> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge
>
> This is what I'm looking for to the "T". Look at the "Practical Example"
> further down the page.
>
> I already pulled the WHR-G54S section out from the DD-WRT install page
> and am getting ready to PDF it. I see the bummer part on TFTP for the
> initial flash to DD-WRT, but subsequent flashes may be done with http.
>
> I think the boardflags were for the WHR-HP units only, and it was to
> enable the on-board amplifier.
>
> After a bit more surfing, I'll set up my ThinkPad 760XL (cutting edge!)
> to flash one of my WHR-G54S, that way my original one will still get me
> to the web if need be.
>
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> hath wroth:
>>
>>> Do tell about other than "stock firmware".

>>
>> See list at:
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54g#Third-party_firmware_projects>
>> I'm partial to DD-WRT and OpenWRT.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT>
>>
>> Installing DD-WRT on Buffalo products is a bit tricky as Buffalo
>> encrypts their firmware. See:
>> <http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Buffalo_WHR-G54S.2C_WHR-HP-G54_and_WZR-RS-G54>
>>
>> You'll also need to do some "boardflags" tweaking to get it to work.
>>


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Old 11-24-2006, 09:03 PM
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Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> hath wroth:

>Bridge Install
>http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Bridge_Install


Why is the above URL relevant or important?

See further down the page under Conclusions:
Both OpenWRT and DD-WRT still, as of version 2.3, cannot
do a client mode connection to an AP using WPA security...

As usual, the author doesn't bother to supply the full DD-WRT version
number and build so there's no way to tell if it ever was fixed. Note
that he also disabled 802.1x authentication which is REQUIRED for WPA
encryption.

Incidentally, my home WRT54GS v3.0 router with DD-WRT:
https://home.learnbydestroying.com:8080

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Old 11-24-2006, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Wireless between two Buffalo WHR-G54S

Already looked at your router, but the pressing question is the correct
firmware.

Do I have to flash mini first?

What bin do I want?

Generic
WRT54G
WRT54GS
WRT54GSv4 (most likely not)
WRTL54GS


Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> hath wroth:
>
>> Bridge Install
>> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Bridge_Install

>
> Why is the above URL relevant or important?
>
> See further down the page under Conclusions:
> Both OpenWRT and DD-WRT still, as of version 2.3, cannot
> do a client mode connection to an AP using WPA security...
>
> As usual, the author doesn't bother to supply the full DD-WRT version
> number and build so there's no way to tell if it ever was fixed. Note
> that he also disabled 802.1x authentication which is REQUIRED for WPA
> encryption.
>
> Incidentally, my home WRT54GS v3.0 router with DD-WRT:
> https://home.learnbydestroying.com:8080
>


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Old 11-25-2006, 12:33 AM
Jeff Liebermann
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Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> hath wroth:

> Do I have to flash mini first?


No. That was only for buggy versions of the Linksys firmware that
would not allow flash images over 3MBytes big. Linksys fixed the
problem many revisions ago.

> What bin do I want?
>Generic
>WRT54G
>WRT54GS
>WRT54GSv4 (most likely not)
>WRTL54GS


Generic. See step number 6 in:
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Installation#Buffalo_WHR-G54S.2C_WHR-HP-G54_and_WZR-RS-G54>


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