Anybody using wireless broadband? Either usb or pcmcia wireless card.
There is not much info around. Do packages allow regular phone use with
broadband?
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Snap
Hey, I eat my vegetables. Potatoes are vegetables arent' they?
So I eat my French Fries and I get my vegetables.
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:39:20 GMT, "Snap Whipcrack.............."
<snapw@aol.com> wrote in <s4TKh.2857$DX5.2437@trndny06>:
>Anybody using wireless broadband? Either usb or pcmcia wireless card.
>There is not much info around. Do packages allow regular phone use with
>broadband?
Depends. Which specific service and which specific products do you have
in mind? We can't really help you if you keep all those details secret.
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John Navas wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:39:20 GMT, "Snap Whipcrack.............."
> <snapw@aol.com> wrote in <s4TKh.2857$DX5.2437@trndny06>:
>
>> Anybody using wireless broadband? Either usb or pcmcia wireless card.
>> There is not much info around. Do packages allow regular phone use with
>> broadband?
>
> Depends. Which specific service and which specific products do you have
> in mind? We can't really help you if you keep all those details secret.
>
Didn't you know? All the services are exactly the same and you just pick
the cheapest one that has the cutest ringtones...
John Navas wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:39:20 GMT, "Snap Whipcrack.............."
> <snapw@aol.com> wrote in <s4TKh.2857$DX5.2437@trndny06>:
>
>> Anybody using wireless broadband? Either usb or pcmcia wireless card.
>> There is not much info around. Do packages allow regular phone use with
>> broadband?
>
> Depends. Which specific service and which specific products do you have
> in mind? We can't really help you if you keep all those details secret.
>
I looked at all of them, USCellular, Verizonwireless, Unicel, Sprint etc.
Like I say, information is scarce. You don't have a clue what you are
getting. No specifications, and they all want around 60 to 80 a month
and you don't know if that includes cell phone service. I guess they are
trying to prevent proliferation. They sure are suppressing information.
It's like a 'pot luck' service.
--
Snap
Hey, I eat my vegetables. Potatoes are vegetables arent' they?
So I eat my French Fries and I get my vegetables.
Snap Whipcrack.............. wrote:
> Like I say, information is scarce. You don't have a clue what you are
> getting. No specifications, and they all want around 60 to 80 a month
> and you don't know if that includes cell phone service. I guess they are
> trying to prevent proliferation. They sure are suppressing information.
> It's like a 'pot luck' service.
No idea how you arrived at the guess they are suppressing information when
everything you want to know is on their respective websites.
In a nut shell:
Data services (internet access) tops out at $60-$80 for unlimited data
transfers. Lesser costs for fixed transfers, but overcharges if you go over
the plans data transfer plan.
Theses rates apply to both your laptop tethered to you cellphone or your
laptop with a data connection card.
You can have a data plan added to your cellphone's voice plan for tethering
and pay the above rates. Speeds are slower than if you used a data
connection card.
You can have an exclusively data connection card plan for the above rates.
Connection cards start out at $40 after rebate and a term commitment.
Cingular has just added a Express Card form factor card to their PCMCIA
selections. I don't know about the other carriers.
If you use your connection card SIM in a cellphone, you get charged an
extremely high rate. I'm open to correction if I didn't state that
correctly. I do not know the charges when you stick a cellphone SIM into a
data card.
I don't know about the other carriers, but you cannot run a server of any
sort with Cingular, unless you pay a very high setup fee and monthly fees
for a static IP address. I seem to recall I was told there was a $2,000 set
fee, but that information is also on the Cingular website - you just have
to dig for it.
No one is suppressing information. All the specifications and details are
available on their respective websites. Cingular is not trying to prevent
proliferation, their business accounts department told me data services are
a high income service for them.
"Snap Whipcrack.............." <snapw@aol.com> wrote in message
news:s4TKh.2857$DX5.2437@trndny06...
> Anybody using wireless broadband? Either usb or pcmcia wireless card.
> There is not much info around. Do packages allow regular phone use with
> broadband?
>
>
> --
> Snap
In th Seattle, WA area EVDO works great - Rev. A is here and typical
downliad is a little over 1m. Upload is running about 600k. Throughput is
great. Both the USB and PCMCIA and Express slot cards work fine. You can
use phone with broadband but not both at once (if you are talking about
using phone-as-modem). Sprint tolerates VoiP and the data speeds support
it. I know people using the USB on their desktop and moving it to their
laptop then they hit the road. Also I use my Blackberry 8703e as a modem.
It is only Rev. 0 but I connect at around 750k.
"DTC" <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob> wrote in message
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> Snap Whipcrack.............. wrote:
>> Like I say, information is scarce. You don't have a clue what you are
>> getting. No specifications, and they all want around 60 to 80 a month
>> and you don't know if that includes cell phone service. I guess they are
>> trying to prevent proliferation. They sure are suppressing information.
>> It's like a 'pot luck' service.
>
> No idea how you arrived at the guess they are suppressing information when
> everything you want to know is on their respective websites.
>
> In a nut shell:
>
> Data services (internet access) tops out at $60-$80 for unlimited data
> transfers. Lesser costs for fixed transfers, but overcharges if you go
> over the plans data transfer plan.
>
> Theses rates apply to both your laptop tethered to you cellphone or your
> laptop with a data connection card.
>
> You can have a data plan added to your cellphone's voice plan for
> tethering and pay the above rates. Speeds are slower than if you used a
> data connection card.
>
> You can have an exclusively data connection card plan for the above rates.
> Connection cards start out at $40 after rebate and a term commitment.
>
> Cingular has just added a Express Card form factor card to their PCMCIA
> selections. I don't know about the other carriers.
>
> If you use your connection card SIM in a cellphone, you get charged an
> extremely high rate. I'm open to correction if I didn't state that
> correctly. I do not know the charges when you stick a cellphone SIM into a
> data card.
>
> I don't know about the other carriers, but you cannot run a server of any
> sort with Cingular, unless you pay a very high setup fee and monthly fees
> for a static IP address. I seem to recall I was told there was a $2,000
> set fee, but that information is also on the Cingular website - you just
> have to dig for it.
>
> No one is suppressing information. All the specifications and details are
> available on their respective websites. Cingular is not trying to prevent
> proliferation, their business accounts department told me data services
> are a high income service for them.
Sprint has $59.99 unlimited data for their Rev. A EVDO cards with basically
no restrictions. Download is running 700k - 1.4m in the Seattle area and
upload between 400 and 700k. You can also get a $99.99 business package for
"always on" users. I think this would support a server. Sprint allows
Phone-as-modem (I use my BB 8703e this way and download at 760k) with
unlimited usage included in the $39.99 data plan.
You need to look at coverage maps for the various carriers in the areas you
live/travel then pick the one you like. Phone-as-modem is good for light
use or if you don't mind missing phone calls otherwise a dedicated modem is
best. I like Novatel but there are others that are good. Make sure you get
an unlimited plan because overage will eat you alive - just like cellular.
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:44:08 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
wrote in <sZ6Lh.13795$tD2.11221@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net>:
>Snap Whipcrack.............. wrote:
>> Like I say, information is scarce. You don't have a clue what you are
>> getting. No specifications, and they all want around 60 to 80 a month
>> and you don't know if that includes cell phone service. I guess they are
>> trying to prevent proliferation. They sure are suppressing information.
>> It's like a 'pot luck' service.
It's actually pretty clear if you step through the ordering process.
>You can have a data plan added to your cellphone's voice plan for tethering
>and pay the above rates. Speeds are slower than if you used a data
>connection card.
Not necessarily -- it all depends on the device -- my Motorola RAZR V3xx
is as fast as other HSDPA devices I've tested, including PC Cards.
>If you use your connection card SIM in a cellphone, you get charged an
>extremely high rate. I'm open to correction if I didn't state that
>correctly. I do not know the charges when you stick a cellphone SIM into a
>data card.
Doesn't matter what device it's in -- what matters is the amount of data
transferred and whatever data pricing is on that account.
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:48:23 -0700, "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
wrote in <hsCdnVWMta57dmDYnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@comcast.com>:
>You need to look at coverage maps for the various carriers in the areas you
>live/travel then pick the one you like. Phone-as-modem is good for light
>use or if you don't mind missing phone calls otherwise a dedicated modem is
>best. ...
Cingular handsets will ring when data is active, and the call can be
taken, which suspends data transfer for the duration of the call, so
there's no need to miss phone calls.
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:40:56 -0700, "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
wrote in <N7ydnZBMaL27d2DYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>:
>"Snap Whipcrack.............." <snapw@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:s4TKh.2857$DX5.2437@trndny06...
>> Anybody using wireless broadband? Either usb or pcmcia wireless card.
>> There is not much info around. Do packages allow regular phone use with
>> broadband?
>In th Seattle, WA area EVDO works great - Rev. A is here and typical
>downliad is a little over 1m. Upload is running about 600k. Throughput is
>great. Both the USB and PCMCIA and Express slot cards work fine. You can
>use phone with broadband but not both at once (if you are talking about
>using phone-as-modem). Sprint tolerates VoiP and the data speeds support
>it. I know people using the USB on their desktop and moving it to their
>laptop then they hit the road. Also I use my Blackberry 8703e as a modem.
>It is only Rev. 0 but I connect at around 750k.
Cingular HSDAP here in the San Francisco Bay Area is roughly comparable,
using a Motorola RAZR V3xx handset.
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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:48:23 -0700, "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
> wrote in <hsCdnVWMta57dmDYnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@comcast.com>:
>
>>You need to look at coverage maps for the various carriers in the areas
>>you
>>live/travel then pick the one you like. Phone-as-modem is good for light
>>use or if you don't mind missing phone calls otherwise a dedicated modem
>>is
>>best. ...
>
> Cingular handsets will ring when data is active, and the call can be
> taken, which suspends data transfer for the duration of the call, so
> there's no need to miss phone calls.
>
Sprints ring as well, but you can't surf AND talk at the same time - it is
one or the other. If you need to check out email/surf the web while talking
then you need a phone and modem.
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:40:56 -0700, "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
> wrote in <N7ydnZBMaL27d2DYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>:
>
>>"Snap Whipcrack.............." <snapw@aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:s4TKh.2857$DX5.2437@trndny06...
>>> Anybody using wireless broadband? Either usb or pcmcia wireless card.
>>> There is not much info around. Do packages allow regular phone use with
>>> broadband?
>
>>In th Seattle, WA area EVDO works great - Rev. A is here and typical
>>downliad is a little over 1m. Upload is running about 600k. Throughput
>>is
>>great. Both the USB and PCMCIA and Express slot cards work fine. You can
>>use phone with broadband but not both at once (if you are talking about
>>using phone-as-modem). Sprint tolerates VoiP and the data speeds support
>>it. I know people using the USB on their desktop and moving it to their
>>laptop then they hit the road. Also I use my Blackberry 8703e as a modem.
>>It is only Rev. 0 but I connect at around 750k.
>
> Cingular HSDAP here in the San Francisco Bay Area is roughly comparable,
> using a Motorola RAZR V3xx handset.
It may, but HSPDA cover is much less US wide then EVDO. ANd EVDO REv. A is
quickly being rolled out. Here in the Seattle market you can consistently
download at 1+ mbps and upload at 700+ kbps. Coverage is very extensive,
much more so then the Cingular/AT&T system. But I know things vary from
market to market.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:42:47 -0700, "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
wrote in <jo6dnfwjRdBVx57bnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@comcast.com>:
>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:rli6039egj179g61pech8bq5r390e17lvq@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:48:23 -0700, "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
>> wrote in <hsCdnVWMta57dmDYnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@comcast.com>:
>>
>>>You need to look at coverage maps for the various carriers in the areas
>>>you
>>>live/travel then pick the one you like. Phone-as-modem is good for light
>>>use or if you don't mind missing phone calls otherwise a dedicated modem
>>>is
>>>best. ...
>>
>> Cingular handsets will ring when data is active, and the call can be
>> taken, which suspends data transfer for the duration of the call, so
>> there's no need to miss phone calls.
>
>Sprints ring as well, but you can't surf AND talk at the same time - it is
>one or the other. If you need to check out email/surf the web while talking
>then you need a phone and modem.
1. That's a whole different issue than your claim about "missing" calls.
2. The Motorola RAZR V3xx can make a voice call _while_ an HSDPA data
connection is active. (My earlier comment pertained to prior
generation EGPRS handsets.)
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:48:57 -0700, "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
wrote in <8tGdnUAeRJWkwZ7bnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com>:
>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:mqi603thc8364abajs5smeob1jme8vm2up@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:40:56 -0700, "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
>> wrote in <N7ydnZBMaL27d2DYnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@comcast.com>:
>>>In th Seattle, WA area EVDO works great - Rev. A is here and typical
>>>downliad is a little over 1m. Upload is running about 600k. Throughput
>>>is
>>>great. Both the USB and PCMCIA and Express slot cards work fine. You can
>>>use phone with broadband but not both at once (if you are talking about
>>>using phone-as-modem). Sprint tolerates VoiP and the data speeds support
>>>it. I know people using the USB on their desktop and moving it to their
>>>laptop then they hit the road. Also I use my Blackberry 8703e as a modem.
>>>It is only Rev. 0 but I connect at around 750k.
>>
>> Cingular HSDAP here in the San Francisco Bay Area is roughly comparable,
>> using a Motorola RAZR V3xx handset.
>
>It may, but HSPDA cover is much less US wide then EVDO.
1. You were talking about Seattle, not nationwide
2. Cingular HSDPA has good coverage of major metro areas --
see <http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.html>
3. Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) coverage is ubiquitous -- see
<http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/>
>ANd EVDO REv. A is
>quickly being rolled out.
Likewise HSDPA.
>Here in the Seattle market you can consistently
>download at 1+ mbps and upload at 700+ kbps.
My friends in that area are typically getting lower speeds than that.
>Coverage is very extensive,
>much more so then the Cingular/AT&T system. But I know things vary from
>market to market.
Indeed.
>And this is a Sprint group. :)
This is actually alt.internet.wireless (which focuses mostly on Wi-Fi),
not a Sprint group.
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