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Old 10-08-2006, 04:21 PM
jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk
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Default Wireless Internet Sharing

Hi,

I am trying to configure my computer to share my Internet connection
with a laptop, over a Belkin wireless ad hoc network. File sharing
works fine, but when I try to access the Internet it says page cannot
be displayed. The IP addresses are 192.168.0.1 for the computer and
192.168.0.2 for the laptop. Please Help!

Andrew.


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Old 10-08-2006, 04:30 PM
Duane Arnold
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<jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1160324505.563686.3120@k70g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to configure my computer to share my Internet connection
> with a laptop, over a Belkin wireless ad hoc network. File sharing
> works fine, but when I try to access the Internet it says page cannot
> be displayed. The IP addresses are 192.168.0.1 for the computer and
> 192.168.0.2 for the laptop. Please Help!
>


I'll assume wireless ad-hoc networking using XP in some shape, form, or
fashion.

My suggestion to you is go get a wireless router and switch everything to
infrastructure mode, because ad-hoc and XP is nothing but trouble.

Duane :)



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Old 10-08-2006, 04:36 PM
jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk
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Duane Arnold wrote:
> <jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1160324505.563686.3120@k70g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to configure my computer to share my Internet connection
> > with a laptop, over a Belkin wireless ad hoc network. File sharing
> > works fine, but when I try to access the Internet it says page cannot
> > be displayed. The IP addresses are 192.168.0.1 for the computer and
> > 192.168.0.2 for the laptop. Please Help!
> >

>
> I'll assume wireless ad-hoc networking using XP in some shape, form, or
> fashion.
>
> My suggestion to you is go get a wireless router and switch everything to
> infrastructure mode, because ad-hoc and XP is nothing but trouble.
>
> Duane :)


Space is limited here so I'd rather not buy anymore hardware if I can
help it. The computers connect fine and file sharing is fine, I just
can't understand why Internet sharing won't work, I was even running
ICS on this computer recently with a crossover cable so everything
should already be setup.


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Old 10-08-2006, 04:51 PM
Duane Arnold
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<jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1160325403.863152.57850@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Duane Arnold wrote:
>> <jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1160324505.563686.3120@k70g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I am trying to configure my computer to share my Internet connection
>> > with a laptop, over a Belkin wireless ad hoc network. File sharing
>> > works fine, but when I try to access the Internet it says page cannot
>> > be displayed. The IP addresses are 192.168.0.1 for the computer and
>> > 192.168.0.2 for the laptop. Please Help!
>> >

>>
>> I'll assume wireless ad-hoc networking using XP in some shape, form, or
>> fashion.
>>
>> My suggestion to you is go get a wireless router and switch everything to
>> infrastructure mode, because ad-hoc and XP is nothing but trouble.
>>
>> Duane :)

>
> Space is limited here so I'd rather not buy anymore hardware if I can
> help it. The computers connect fine and file sharing is fine, I just
> can't understand why Internet sharing won't work, I was even running
> ICS on this computer recently with a crossover cable so everything
> should already be setup.
>


Listen and listen well, the XP O/S and ad-hoc wireless networking are
suspect/flakey/not reliable. You all ready have problems with it. You may
get it all working one day, only to turn around the next day and it not be
working.

You should save yourself some grief, although, you're already on the path.

Duane :)



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Old 10-09-2006, 10:49 AM
Panda
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Default Re: Wireless Internet Sharing

I second on Duane suggestion, get a wireless box and save your time and
effort!
You can still buy a MIMO wireless Router, they are the best!.

www.networkingland.com/wifi_special.htm

Panda,
www.networkingland.com


Duane Arnold wrote:
> <jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1160325403.863152.57850@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >
> > Duane Arnold wrote:
> >> <jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:1160324505.563686.3120@k70g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I am trying to configure my computer to share my Internet connection
> >> > with a laptop, over a Belkin wireless ad hoc network. File sharing
> >> > works fine, but when I try to access the Internet it says page cannot
> >> > be displayed. The IP addresses are 192.168.0.1 for the computer and
> >> > 192.168.0.2 for the laptop. Please Help!
> >> >
> >>
> >> I'll assume wireless ad-hoc networking using XP in some shape, form, or
> >> fashion.
> >>
> >> My suggestion to you is go get a wireless router and switch everything to
> >> infrastructure mode, because ad-hoc and XP is nothing but trouble.
> >>
> >> Duane :)

> >
> > Space is limited here so I'd rather not buy anymore hardware if I can
> > help it. The computers connect fine and file sharing is fine, I just
> > can't understand why Internet sharing won't work, I was even running
> > ICS on this computer recently with a crossover cable so everything
> > should already be setup.
> >

>
> Listen and listen well, the XP O/S and ad-hoc wireless networking are
> suspect/flakey/not reliable. You all ready have problems with it. You may
> get it all working one day, only to turn around the next day and it not be
> working.
>
> You should save yourself some grief, although, you're already on the path.
>
> Duane :)



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Old 10-09-2006, 02:27 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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Default Re: Wireless Internet Sharing

jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk hath wroth:

>Duane Arnold wrote:
>> My suggestion to you is go get a wireless router and switch everything to
>> infrastructure mode, because ad-hoc and XP is nothing but trouble.
>>
>> Duane :)


>Space is limited here so I'd rather not buy anymore hardware if I can
>help it.


Duane is right. ICS is a problem. Some of the other software proxy
solutions are not much better. Buy a wireless router. If size is an
issue, there are several tiny "travel wireless routers" that are
suitable.
| http://mobileoffice.about.com/od/lap...ketrouters.htm

>The computers connect fine and file sharing is fine, I just
>can't understand why Internet sharing won't work, I was even running
>ICS on this computer recently with a crossover cable so everything
>should already be setup.


If you're no longer running ICS, what are you running?
However, please don't answer. I don't want to troubleshoot it. Buy
the wireless router.

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Old 10-10-2006, 01:38 PM
Bill Kearney
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> However, please don't answer. I don't want to troubleshoot it. Buy
> the wireless router.


Gotta third this series of suggestions. ICS over wifi is unreliable, at
best.



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Old 10-15-2006, 04:46 PM
jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk
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Default Re: Wireless Internet Sharing

OK I've been converted :P I didn't like the idea of the computer with
the modem on it having to be turned on to be able to access the
Internet on the laptop anyway!

So can anyone suggest a good cheap one? I already have a Belkin
wireless card for the computer and a wireless dongle for the laptop. Is
it better to have an internal modem on the router or not? my ISP
provide me a modem for free.

Also what's the difference between a router, a hub, and an access
point?! :-/

Thanks in advance!


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Old 10-15-2006, 05:18 PM
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On 15 Oct 2006 09:46:02 -0700, jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk wrote in
<1160930762.168349.162910@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:

>OK I've been converted :P I didn't like the idea of the computer with
>the modem on it having to be turned on to be able to access the
>Internet on the laptop anyway!
>
>So can anyone suggest a good cheap one?


Pick any two:

* Good
* Cheap
* Fast

You might get only one. ;)

That said, I recommend Buffalo, which you may be able to get from a
local Best Buy, or from on-line resellers (e.g., Newegg.com).

>I already have a Belkin
>wireless card for the computer and a wireless dongle for the laptop. Is
>it better to have an internal modem on the router or not? my ISP
>provide me a modem for free.


I recommend against integrated modems -- reduces flexibility.

>Also what's the difference between a router, a hub, and an access
>point?! :-/


See Wikipedia and the wikis below.

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John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:30 PM
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<jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1160930762.168349.162910@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK I've been converted :P I didn't like the idea of the computer with
> the modem on it having to be turned on to be able to access the
> Internet on the laptop anyway!
>
> So can anyone suggest a good cheap one? I already have a Belkin
> wireless card for the computer and a wireless dongle for the laptop. Is
> it better to have an internal modem on the router or not? my ISP
> provide me a modem for free.


You should get a router that doesn't come with a modem.

Linksys and Netgear have good products
>
> Also what's the difference between a router, a hub, and an access
> point?! :-/


A NAT router does what's in the link wired or wireless.

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/explain/about-NAT.asp

You should get a packet filtering FW router that meets the specs for *What
does a FW do?*. You should get one that you can use something like the
*free* Wallwacther.

http://www.vicomsoft.com/knowledge/r...irewalls1.html

This is what hubs and switches do. I don't know if wireless cards work in
full duplex mode.

Routers have built in switch technology.

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/expla...d-switches.asp

A wireless AP does what's in the link.

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/faq/w...p#access-point

A wireless router has a wireless AP built in to it, since wire and wireless
computers can be plugged into the wire/wireless AP router or a computer can
use the wireless.

If the router is an all wire router, then you would get a standalone
wireless AP and plug it into the wire router, so that a wireless computer
can share its resources with the wire computers and access the Internet via
the gateway wire router, just like the wire computers would be doing.

http://netsecurity.about.com/cs/wire...aa112203_2.htm

Duane :)



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Old 10-21-2006, 06:16 PM
jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk
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Thanks for your help Duane etc much appreciaited!

My ISP is Orange/Wanadoo and the modem they supply only has a USB and
phone line connector on it, from what I've read I need a network
connection on it to be able to use a router which doesn't have a modem
built in(?).

Does any modem work with any ISP? If so, can anyone suggest a cheap
wireless router with built in modem?

Thanks!


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Old 10-22-2006, 04:28 PM
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<jadeandandrew@july21.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your help Duane etc much appreciaited!
>
> My ISP is Orange/Wanadoo and the modem they supply only has a USB and
> phone line connector on it, from what I've read I need a network
> connection on it to be able to use a router which doesn't have a modem
> built in(?).


Well you could use a router with a built in modem and not use the modem
part. Meaning don't connect it up to the phone line. But you will need a
router with also an USB connection.

> Does any modem work with any ISP? If so, can anyone suggest a cheap
> wireless router with built in modem?


It depends on what standard they use. I really like 2Wire DSL
modem/routers. They work in areas where others won't. On eBay they can
be bought new for like 25 bucks or less. Which is a steal for all what
they all do. They are built better than consumer grade too.

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Old 10-26-2006, 05:47 AM
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:28:02 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in
<453b9dec$0$1350$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com> :

>It depends on what standard they use. I really like 2Wire DSL
>modem/routers. They work in areas where others won't. On eBay they can
>be bought new for like 25 bucks or less. Which is a steal for all what
>they all do. They are built better than consumer grade too.


What makes you think 2Wire is actually better than consumer grade?
I'd rate it as better than low-end stuff, but not better than high-end
stuff (e.g., Buffalo).

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