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Old 10-21-2006, 01:06 AM
AZGLI
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Default Wireless internet to wired network

I am moving shortly into a new home. The cable internet connection will
be on the main floor and my home office will be on the second floor
loft. I don't want to have to run wires up to the loft for internet.

Currently I have a US Robotics 802.11BG router that runs my home
network, getting the signal from the DSL modem. Since I don't want to
put the router on the main floor with the cable modem, is there a way I
can replace the CAT-5 cable that would normally run from the main floor
to the loft with a wireless solution?

I was researching using a wireless bridge, but I can't decide what
equipment I would need to make that work, or if I am even going about
it correctly.

The ideal solution that I can see would be to have a device connect to
the modem that will send the internet signal up to the router.

Thanks!


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Old 10-21-2006, 05:19 AM
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"AZGLI" <bh325@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I am moving shortly into a new home. The cable internet connection will
> be on the main floor and my home office will be on the second floor
> loft. I don't want to have to run wires up to the loft for internet.
>
> Currently I have a US Robotics 802.11BG router that runs my home
> network, getting the signal from the DSL modem. Since I don't want to
> put the router on the main floor with the cable modem, is there a way I
> can replace the CAT-5 cable that would normally run from the main floor
> to the loft with a wireless solution?


What is the problem with having the router nxt to the cable modem? It will
still give you coverage up one floor.

> I was researching using a wireless bridge, but I can't decide what
> equipment I would need to make that work, or if I am even going about
> it correctly.
>
> The ideal solution that I can see would be to have a device connect to
> the modem that will send the internet signal up to the router.


That device would be a wireless router - which you already have.

My situation is a bit more complicated but it works well.
cable modem and wired router in the basement, in my office.
cat5 cable to main floor hub for family computer, and wireles router.
'visiting' computers are usually on the main floor and pick up the signal
just fine.
my laptop gets the wireless signal anywhere in the house - basement, main
floor, second floor

Stuart



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Old 10-21-2006, 10:15 PM
AZGLI
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Default Re: Wireless internet to wired network

Stuart,

The problem with putting the router next to the modem is that I need
the router on the second floor to network the computers there. I
transfer large files from computer to computer and I want a wired
network between the computers. I also don't want to have to purchase
wireless adapters for all my computers. I want to maintain the speed
tand throughput that a wired connection gives for use when I transfer
files from computer to computer.

Thanks!

Stuart Miller wrote:
> "AZGLI" <bh325@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1161389189.395932.221430@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> >I am moving shortly into a new home. The cable internet connection will
> > be on the main floor and my home office will be on the second floor
> > loft. I don't want to have to run wires up to the loft for internet.
> >
> > Currently I have a US Robotics 802.11BG router that runs my home
> > network, getting the signal from the DSL modem. Since I don't want to
> > put the router on the main floor with the cable modem, is there a way I
> > can replace the CAT-5 cable that would normally run from the main floor
> > to the loft with a wireless solution?

>
> What is the problem with having the router nxt to the cable modem? It will
> still give you coverage up one floor.
>
> > I was researching using a wireless bridge, but I can't decide what
> > equipment I would need to make that work, or if I am even going about
> > it correctly.
> >
> > The ideal solution that I can see would be to have a device connect to
> > the modem that will send the internet signal up to the router.

>
> That device would be a wireless router - which you already have.
>
> My situation is a bit more complicated but it works well.
> cable modem and wired router in the basement, in my office.
> cat5 cable to main floor hub for family computer, and wireles router.
> 'visiting' computers are usually on the main floor and pick up the signal
> just fine.
> my laptop gets the wireless signal anywhere in the house - basement, main
> floor, second floor
>
> Stuart



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Old 10-22-2006, 04:57 AM
Stuart Miller
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"AZGLI" <bh325@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Stuart,
>
> The problem with putting the router next to the modem is that I need
> the router on the second floor to network the computers there. I
> transfer large files from computer to computer and I want a wired
> network between the computers. I also don't want to have to purchase
> wireless adapters for all my computers. I want to maintain the speed
> tand throughput that a wired connection gives for use when I transfer
> files from computer to computer.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stuart Miller wrote:
>> "AZGLI" <bh325@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161389189.395932.221430@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
>> >I am moving shortly into a new home. The cable internet connection will
>> > be on the main floor and my home office will be on the second floor
>> > loft. I don't want to have to run wires up to the loft for internet.
>> >
>> > Currently I have a US Robotics 802.11BG router that runs my home
>> > network, getting the signal from the DSL modem. Since I don't want to
>> > put the router on the main floor with the cable modem, is there a way I
>> > can replace the CAT-5 cable that would normally run from the main floor
>> > to the loft with a wireless solution?

>>
>> What is the problem with having the router nxt to the cable modem? It
>> will
>> still give you coverage up one floor.
>>
>> > I was researching using a wireless bridge, but I can't decide what
>> > equipment I would need to make that work, or if I am even going about
>> > it correctly.
>> >
>> > The ideal solution that I can see would be to have a device connect to
>> > the modem that will send the internet signal up to the router.

>>
>> That device would be a wireless router - which you already have.
>>
>> My situation is a bit more complicated but it works well.
>> cable modem and wired router in the basement, in my office.
>> cat5 cable to main floor hub for family computer, and wireles router.
>> 'visiting' computers are usually on the main floor and pick up the signal
>> just fine.
>> my laptop gets the wireless signal anywhere in the house - basement, main
>> floor, second floor
>>
>> Stuart

>

OK that makes sense.
Here are some ideas
1. purchase a (used?) 10 or 100 base T hub to connect all the computers
upstairs.
2. For one of the machines upstairs, put in a wireless card as well as the
RJ45 wired card.
establish this machine as the gateway for the others upstairs (if they
need internet)
and enable internet connection sharing for that machine
3. leave the wireless router/firewall/hub downstairs beside the cable modem

Generally, the intention is that the wireless router/firewall/hub is your
base station, and only a computer will be a remote station, so make this
work for you by having your remote station able to handle internet traffic
for other machines. Of course if you only need internet on one machine it is
much easier.

Stuart



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Old 10-22-2006, 05:32 AM
AZGLI
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That only works if the gateway computer is on whenever the other
computers need interenet. That is not the intention, I want each
computer to be able to operate independantly, i.e. access the NAS,
printer and internet without another computer being on. I generally
switch between computers, depending on the project at the time, and
only have both on sometimes.

Pretty much I would like to know if anyone knows of a pair of devices
that will plug into the WAN port on my router and to the network port
on the modem and link the two wirelessly with more throughput than the
internet connection itself.



> OK that makes sense.
> Here are some ideas
> 1. purchase a (used?) 10 or 100 base T hub to connect all the computers
> upstairs.
> 2. For one of the machines upstairs, put in a wireless card as well as the
> RJ45 wired card.
> establish this machine as the gateway for the others upstairs (if they
> need internet)
> and enable internet connection sharing for that machine
> 3. leave the wireless router/firewall/hub downstairs beside the cable modem
>
> Generally, the intention is that the wireless router/firewall/hub is your
> base station, and only a computer will be a remote station, so make this
> work for you by having your remote station able to handle internet traffic
> for other machines. Of course if you only need internet on one machine it is
> much easier.
>
> Stuart



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Old 10-22-2006, 07:43 AM
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"AZGLI" <bh325@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> That only works if the gateway computer is on whenever the other
> computers need interenet. That is not the intention, I want each
> computer to be able to operate independantly, i.e. access the NAS,
> printer and internet without another computer being on. I generally
> switch between computers, depending on the project at the time, and
> only have both on sometimes.
>
> Pretty much I would like to know if anyone knows of a pair of devices
> that will plug into the WAN port on my router and to the network port
> on the modem and link the two wirelessly with more throughput than the
> internet connection itself.
>
>

For only two computers upstairs, just put a wireless card in each. Then
still get a hub for connecting everything upstairs.


If it were me, for two computers, I would set up a linux box to be a file
server, print server and internet gateway.
The security and backup benefits can be discussed elsewhere.
For me, all the important files live on the server, and that is where the
printer is available. That machine stays on all the time, and we are looking
at about a year since the last non-maintenance re-boot.

Stuart



>
>> OK that makes sense.
>> Here are some ideas
>> 1. purchase a (used?) 10 or 100 base T hub to connect all the computers
>> upstairs.
>> 2. For one of the machines upstairs, put in a wireless card as well as
>> the
>> RJ45 wired card.
>> establish this machine as the gateway for the others upstairs (if
>> they
>> need internet)
>> and enable internet connection sharing for that machine
>> 3. leave the wireless router/firewall/hub downstairs beside the cable
>> modem
>>
>> Generally, the intention is that the wireless router/firewall/hub is your
>> base station, and only a computer will be a remote station, so make this
>> work for you by having your remote station able to handle internet
>> traffic
>> for other machines. Of course if you only need internet on one machine it
>> is
>> much easier.
>>
>> Stuart

>




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Old 10-22-2006, 02:36 PM
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You can do everything you specify, for a rather small cost (under $200),
*IF* you eliminate the word "wirelessly".....

Just curious, do you want it to work the way you want, or do you want it
"wireless" (as in 802.11x)? Or can you live with a solution that will do
exactly what you want and no extra wires are needed? If so, look into power
line networking.. Netgear makes a line of products for "powerline
networking"
(http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...ome+Networking
click on powerline ethernet adapters... $99 for 14Mbps, $129 for 54Mbps,
$149 for 85Mbps, $169 for 200 Mbps)... I have three linksys WRT54G 's (<--
plural G's *not* the GS). and use them to gived both wired and wireless
access anywhere on my property... Want to move it? just plug it in somewhere
else.. The internet modem is downstairs in the house, and the wap router
there is plugged into that...




AZGLI wrote:
> That only works if the gateway computer is on whenever the other
> computers need interenet. That is not the intention, I want each
> computer to be able to operate independantly, i.e. access the NAS,
> printer and internet without another computer being on. I generally
> switch between computers, depending on the project at the time, and
> only have both on sometimes.
>
> Pretty much I would like to know if anyone knows of a pair of devices
> that will plug into the WAN port on my router and to the network port
> on the modem and link the two wirelessly with more throughput than the
> internet connection itself.
>
>
>
>> OK that makes sense.
>> Here are some ideas
>> 1. purchase a (used?) 10 or 100 base T hub to connect all the
>> computers upstairs.
>> 2. For one of the machines upstairs, put in a wireless card as well
>> as the RJ45 wired card.
>> establish this machine as the gateway for the others upstairs
>> (if they need internet)
>> and enable internet connection sharing for that machine
>> 3. leave the wireless router/firewall/hub downstairs beside the
>> cable modem
>>
>> Generally, the intention is that the wireless router/firewall/hub is
>> your base station, and only a computer will be a remote station, so
>> make this work for you by having your remote station able to handle
>> internet traffic for other machines. Of course if you only need
>> internet on one machine it is much easier.
>>
>> Stuart




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Old 10-23-2006, 04:54 PM
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AZGLI wrote:
> I am moving shortly into a new home. The cable internet connection will
> be on the main floor and my home office will be on the second floor
> loft. I don't want to have to run wires up to the loft for internet.
>
> Currently I have a US Robotics 802.11BG router that runs my home
> network, getting the signal from the DSL modem. Since I don't want to
> put the router on the main floor with the cable modem, is there a way I
> can replace the CAT-5 cable that would normally run from the main floor
> to the loft with a wireless solution?
>
> I was researching using a wireless bridge, but I can't decide what
> equipment I would need to make that work, or if I am even going about
> it correctly.
>
> The ideal solution that I can see would be to have a device connect to
> the modem that will send the internet signal up to the router.
>
> Thanks!
>

I have a setup like this as well. In my home office (which is a fair
distance from my router) I need to be able to transfer files between
computers without using slow wireless. My solution was to use a
wireless client bridge. This is a 4 port switch to local network, but
it also connects the local (home office) network to the rest of the
network wirelessly. I use a Motorola wr850g router with dd-wrt firmware
to do this.

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