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Old 08-08-2005, 10:40 AM
Richard
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Default Wireless USB device

Just wondering , Is there a wireless device that allows you to connect
your USB device to (for example a scanner or a camera) and connect to
your PC wirelessly ?

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Old 08-08-2005, 11:45 AM
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> Just wondering , Is there a wireless device that allows you to connect
> your USB device to (for example a scanner or a camera) and connect to
> your PC wirelessly ?


None that I know of that would fit into the sensible price bracket.
What are you trying to avoid, cable mess? I can't see much benefit from
having a scanner connected at long distance! :)

Essentially what would be nice would be bluetooth enabled devices for
some of these sort of things except that you might want the higher
bandwidth of 802.11g or similar.

Part of the problem will be that you're connecting very low end price
devices and so nobody wants to pay for the extra cost of embedding
wireless comms in them that perhaps a fraction of the customer base will
end up using.

David.

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Old 08-08-2005, 12:24 PM
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David Taylor wrote:
>>Just wondering , Is there a wireless device that allows you to connect
>>your USB device to (for example a scanner or a camera) and connect to
>>your PC wirelessly ?

>
>
> None that I know of that would fit into the sensible price bracket.
> What are you trying to avoid, cable mess? I can't see much benefit from
> having a scanner connected at long distance! :)
>
> Essentially what would be nice would be bluetooth enabled devices for
> some of these sort of things except that you might want the higher
> bandwidth of 802.11g or similar.
>
> Part of the problem will be that you're connecting very low end price
> devices and so nobody wants to pay for the extra cost of embedding
> wireless comms in them that perhaps a fraction of the customer base will
> end up using.
>
> David.

A scanner was an example, but it would be nice to be able to connect
printer or web cam, without the big cost of getting a network enabled
one. As you say they are cheap.

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Old 08-08-2005, 02:32 PM
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> A scanner was an example, but it would be nice to be able to connect
> printer or web cam, without the big cost of getting a network enabled
> one. As you say they are cheap.


Potentially very simple to do, e.g.
http://www.rfsolutions.co.uk/acatalo...h_Modules.html

Those radio modules would let you take the USB serial signal and
transmit it but as I said, I don't think they fall into the sensible
price bracket as you'd still have to add on some other bits.

The other potential problem is that if you're talking USB2 with 480Mbps
bandwidth, 802.11g is going to struggle at that.

It could work for the low bandwidth devices but then you're into cost
again.

David.

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Old 08-08-2005, 04:14 PM
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Linksys makes a wireless print server, that will do exactly what your
trying to do for about $100


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Old 08-08-2005, 04:41 PM
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:40:39 GMT, Richard <shack69@hotpop.com> wrote:

>Just wondering , Is there a wireless device that allows you to connect
>your USB device to (for example a scanner or a camera) and connect to
>your PC wirelessly ?


See:
http://www.aircable.net
Note that these are not 802.11 but use BlueToothe. At this time,
there's no USB-to-USB product that will work with every single type of
USB device, but they're working on it.

Plug: Aircable is in Santa Cruz CA, so buy one and support our local
economy.


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Old 08-08-2005, 05:00 PM
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Richard wrote:
> Just wondering , Is there a wireless device that allows you to connect
> your USB device to (for example a scanner or a camera) and connect to
> your PC wirelessly ?


Not yet, but there is a group developing Wireless USB, and if it comes
to market, dongles for existing USB devices will be available.

http://www.deviceforge.com/articles/AT9015145687.html

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Old 08-08-2005, 05:01 PM
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Richard wrote:
> Just wondering , Is there a wireless device that allows you to connect
> your USB device to (for example a scanner or a camera) and connect to
> your PC wirelessly ?


Forgot, "http://www.usb.org/developers/wusb/"

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Old 08-08-2005, 05:10 PM
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> http://www.aircable.net

Good find, price is about what I'd expect but I'd still have thought
that bandwidth could be a problem for some USB2 devices?

David.

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Old 08-08-2005, 05:26 PM
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:10:56 GMT, David Taylor <djtaylor@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>> http://www.aircable.net

>
>Good find, price is about what I'd expect but I'd still have thought
>that bandwidth could be a problem for some USB2 devices?
>David.


It's USB 1.1 only at this time. At best, BlueGoof works at about
720Kbits/sec thruput. Even if it supported USB 2.0, it would be far
too slow. What AirCable does best is audio, RS-232 replacements, and
wireless PDA replication. Scanner and printer

There is the possibility of BlueToothe 2 EDR with 2mbits/sec.
http://www.wirelessnetdesignline.com/howto/55800398
but that's for later.


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Old 08-08-2005, 05:52 PM
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:00:30 GMT, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>Richard wrote:
>> Just wondering , Is there a wireless device that allows you to connect
>> your USB device to (for example a scanner or a camera) and connect to
>> your PC wirelessly ?


>Not yet, but there is a group developing Wireless USB, and if it comes
>to market, dongles for existing USB devices will be available.
>http://www.deviceforge.com/articles/AT9015145687.html


WUSB uses UWB (Ultra WideBand) technology. I'm rather on the fence as
to whether UWB is actually workable. Freescale (Motorola) has an FCC
approved chipset, but it appears that they're targetting wireless
video applications that require huge amounts of local bandwidth.
Samsung is gonna use their XS-110 UWB chips for a "cordless" plasma
TV. They're also getting Icron Technology to do their high rate USB
2.0 chipset which will allegedly be available in mid 2006.
http://www.icron.com/press_rel/2005/pr20050425.php
As soon as the chipsets appear, I expect to see just about everything
that currently uses a USB cable go to wireless. However, it may take
a few years to get the price down to affordable and the technology
down to deliverable.


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Old 08-09-2005, 08:48 AM
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> Note that these are not 802.11 but use BlueToothe.


Is that the mediaeval version of the spec? ;-)

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Old 08-09-2005, 04:10 PM
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> Plug: Aircable is in Santa Cruz CA, so buy one and support our local
> economy.


I bought three ice cream cones in Santa Cruz on Sunday, after mountain
biking at Wilder Ranch SP. Does that help?

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Old 08-09-2005, 06:14 PM
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:10:28 GMT, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> Plug: Aircable is in Santa Cruz CA, so buy one and support our local
>> economy.


>I bought three ice cream cones in Santa Cruz on Sunday, after mountain
>biking at Wilder Ranch SP. Does that help?


Yes, but only if purchased from Marianni's Ice Cream, which is owned
by the other Lieberman in town (no relation).

We also have Soekris Engineering in town which makes SBC (single board
comptahs) suitable for building Linux wireless routers.
http://www.soekris.com/

Drivel: I have 2.5 bicycles and no time to ride any of them.


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Old 08-10-2005, 01:49 AM
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"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
news:vkohf1lqh00iambru16oquk6hqje77o7bj@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:10:28 GMT, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>>> Plug: Aircable is in Santa Cruz CA, so buy one and support our local
>>> economy.

>
>>I bought three ice cream cones in Santa Cruz on Sunday, after mountain
>>biking at Wilder Ranch SP. Does that help?

>
> Yes, but only if purchased from Marianni's Ice Cream, which is owned
> by the other Lieberman in town (no relation).
>
> We also have Soekris Engineering in town which makes SBC (single board
> comptahs) suitable for building Linux wireless routers.
> http://www.soekris.com/
>
> Drivel: I have 2.5 bicycles and no time to ride any of them.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> AE6KS 831-336-2558


Watch Monster Garage.. They can weld em together and make a 5 wheeler out of
em.... :)



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