WPA2... what conditions must be met?

I am planning to strengthen my WiFi security from WPA to WPA2.

Here's what I have:
.. Notebook PC (WinXP Home SP2) with Intel 2200BG WiFi card
.. Desktop PC (WinXP Pro SP2) with Linksys WUSB54G USB WiFi card
.. Linksys WiFi access point/router WRT54G v3 with latest firmware
(supports WPA2)

Notebook Intel WiFi driver GUI shows an option to configure WPA2
Personal or Enterprise. Desktop Linksys WiFi driver GUI does not show
any option to configure WPA2 Personal/Enterprise (it only shows WPA
Personal/Enterprise configuration options). On both computers, I am
using the vendor's WiFi graphical interface instead of Windows WZC.

If understand correctly, to get WPA (not WPA2) to work, the following
condition must be true (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong):
- WiFi card and WiFi access point must support WPA encryption
- OS must support it too (WinXP SP2 later versions support WPA but older
versions do not)

and here's what I am not sure about:

- Is WPA2 encryption OS related or WiFi driver related?

- Does WinXP SP2 need KB893357 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357)
in order to get WPA2 to work?

- Will it work fine without KB893357 patch if WiFi driver already
supports WPA2 (for example, my notebook PC WiFi)?

Hope I explain that clearly. Anyone?

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:32:53 -0700, Ron
<fdskljfoiewiorewuokdvsfds@FI74as32etwIOtrFewDS.co m> wrote:

>I am planning to strengthen my WiFi security from WPA to WPA2.

Well, ok.

>Here's what I have:
>. Notebook PC (WinXP Home SP2) with Intel 2200BG WiFi card
>. Desktop PC (WinXP Pro SP2) with Linksys WUSB54G USB WiFi card
>. Linksys WiFi access point/router WRT54G v3 with latest firmware
>(supports WPA2)
>
>Notebook Intel WiFi driver GUI shows an option to configure WPA2
>Personal or Enterprise.

>Desktop Linksys WiFi driver GUI does not show
>any option to configure WPA2 Personal/Enterprise (it only shows WPA
>Personal/Enterprise configuration options). On both computers, I am
>using the vendor's WiFi graphical interface instead of Windows WZC.

If you switch the WUSB54G driver from the Linksys utility to the "Let
Windoze Manage the Wireless" also known as Wireless Zero Config, it
should allow the WPA2 option. The problem is that you won't see a
"check here for WPA2". Just inscribe the WPA encryption key in the
dumbed down WZC box, and it will go through every possible encryption
scheme until it finds one that makes WZC happy. If you manually
configure the device using WZC, then the WPA2 option will be visible.
See:
| http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0505.mspx
for an example of what you should see.

>- Is WPA2 encryption OS related or WiFi driver related?

If you're using WZC to control the card, then the WPA2 must be in the
operating system. If you're using the native Linksys admin utilities,
the WPA2 must be in the admin utilities.

>- Does WinXP SP2 need KB893357 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357)
>in order to get WPA2 to work?

I think so (not sure). I have it on my two office XP boxes. However,
I don't know if it arrived via a Windoze Update or if I installed it
seperately. I don't think it will hurt to install it seperately.

>- Will it work fine without KB893357 patch if WiFi driver already
>supports WPA2 (for example, my notebook PC WiFi)?

Once again, if you're using the Linksys management program and driver,
then it will need to be in the Linksys driver. If you're using WZC,
then the patch probably needs to be installed.

>Hope I explain that clearly. Anyone?
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Cool. I finally was able to get both notebook and PC to use WPA2
security. You're correct, I don't need windoze patch on my notebook
because my WiFi driver already incorporates WPA2 in the driver + admin
utility. My PC needs KB893357 because WiFi driver does not support it.

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> If you switch the WUSB54G driver from the Linksys utility to the "Let
> Windoze Manage the Wireless" also known as Wireless Zero Config, it
> should allow the WPA2 option. The problem is that you won't see a
> "check here for WPA2". Just inscribe the WPA encryption key in the

It does show WPA2 entry in a drop down box.

> dumbed down WZC box, and it will go through every possible encryption
> scheme until it finds one that makes WZC happy. If you manually
> configure the device using WZC, then the WPA2 option will be visible.
> See:
> | http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0505.mspx
> for an example of what you should see.
>

What I don't like about WZC is I can't hide my SSID. SSID must be
broadcasted in order to get WZC to connect to the AP. I've been using
WiFi without showing my SSID. Now I have to broadcast my SSID. Not that
big a deal but I would like it better if I could hide it.

Ron <fdskljfoiewiorewuokdvsfds@FI74as32etwIOtrFewDS.co m> hath wroth:

>What I don't like about WZC is I can't hide my SSID. SSID must be
>broadcasted in order to get WZC to connect to the AP. I've been using
>WiFi without showing my SSID. Now I have to broadcast my SSID. Not that
>big a deal but I would like it better if I could hide it.

You don't need to have SSID broadcast to use Wireless Zero Config.
If do NOT use "Show Available Networks" and simply create an entry for
the SSID, it will work. That being said, I advise against hiding your
SSID. It's very easy for assorted Linux tools to discover your SSID
even if you don't broadcast it. What little security hiding your SSID
offers is balanced by the inconvenience of setup, and the tendency for
the neighbors to land on your channel.
http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Wi-Fi_Security

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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> You don't need to have SSID broadcast to use Wireless Zero Config.
> If do NOT use "Show Available Networks" and simply create an entry for
> the SSID, it will work. That being said, I advise against hiding your

Been there done that. Didn't work unless SSID broadcast is enabled.

> SSID. It's very easy for assorted Linux tools to discover your SSID
> even if you don't broadcast it. What little security hiding your SSID
> offers is balanced by the inconvenience of setup, and the tendency for
> the neighbors to land on your channel.
> http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Wi-Fi_Security
>

Thanks for the link. I know SSID hiding doesn't do much good but I'd
like my WiFi to stay "shy" by not showing off its ID to the neighbors :-)

Well... let's just say nothing will prevent determined hackers from
breaking in. If they can't do it today, they'll probably succeed another
day.

Thanks again.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:47:45 -0800, Ron
<fdskljfoiewiorewuokdvsfds@FI74as32etwIOtrFewDS.co m> wrote in
<56c0e$45462cb5$4286329d$6775@msgid.meganewsserver s.com>:

>What I don't like about WZC is I can't hide my SSID. SSID must be
>broadcasted in order to get WZC to connect to the AP. I've been using
>WiFi without showing my SSID. Now I have to broadcast my SSID. Not that
>big a deal but I would like it better if I could hide it.

Hiding the SSID is of no value, and likely to cause problems.

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