Go Back   Wireless and Wifi Forums > News > Newsgroups > alt.internet.wireless
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-02-2006, 10:40 PM
Ukeluver
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

Hello.

Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.

I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
(after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
for any info and peace out.


Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2006, 01:31 AM
Jeff Liebermann
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

"Ukeluver" <ukeluver@yahoo.com> hath wroth:

>Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
>upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
>wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
>after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
>odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
>resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
>get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
>get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.


Are you using WEP encryption?
If you are using WEP encryption, please use the Hex encryption key (10
or 26 chars) and not the ASCII encryption key.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2006, 01:41 AM
Mr. Arnold6
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

Ukeluver wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
> upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
> wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
> after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
> odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
> resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
> get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
> get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
>
> I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
> turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
> queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
> (after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
> for any info and peace out.
>


Unless you have a reason such as a firmware was released to fix a known
problem or some security update, then one should think about doing any
upgrade. If it's not broke, then you don't fix it.

Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2006, 09:57 PM
Ukeluver
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5


Mr. Arnold6 wrote:
> Ukeluver wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
> > upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
> > wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
> > after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
> > odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
> > resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
> > get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
> > get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
> >
> > I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
> > turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
> > queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
> > (after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
> > for any info and peace out.
> >

>
> Unless you have a reason such as a firmware was released to fix a known
> problem or some security update, then one should think about doing any
> upgrade. If it's not broke, then you don't fix it.


That's one theory of firmware management. I have been upgrading the
firmware since I got it, with no other troubles. I have any older
version of the firmware saved, so I can go back to v 3.xsomething or
just buy a new one. They have dropped in price about 60% since I
received this one.

Thinking back, I can't recall if the router was actually having these
problems before the upgrade. It had lost its settings a few times for
no apparent reason, requiring a re-config. So there is a history of
flakiness with this thing.


Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2006, 10:01 PM
Ukeluver
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5


Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> "Ukeluver" <ukeluver@yahoo.com> hath wroth:
>
> >Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
> >upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
> >wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
> >after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
> >odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
> >resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
> >get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
> >get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.

>
> Are you using WEP encryption?
> If you are using WEP encryption, please use the Hex encryption key (10
> or 26 chars) and not the ASCII encryption key.


I don't have WEP or any security enabled. I should have said that I
had disabled wireless security. Actually, I had configured wireless
MAC filter to only allow the 2 PCs I have. I disabled that. I've been
too lazy to configure actual security : 0

I want to see what Linksys/cisco has to say about this. My spouse says
that they probably plan the whole useful life of these things so that
you burn them out and have to replace them every so many years. I'm
not that cynical!


Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-03-2006, 10:24 PM
Jeff Liebermann
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

"Ukeluver" <ukeluver@yahoo.com> hath wroth:

>I want to see what Linksys/cisco has to say about this.


No problem. Linksys techs sometimes answer questions on the Linksys
forum on DSLReports.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/linksys
The Linksys are also available:
http://forums.linksys.com/

>My spouse says
>that they probably plan the whole useful life of these things so that
>you burn them out and have to replace them every so many years. I'm
>not that cynical!


There's an internal timer inside that's set to blow up something
immediately after the warranty expires. See various conspiracy theory
forums for the details.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-06-2006, 01:33 PM
Robert Coe
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

On 2 Dec 2006 14:40:04 -0800, "Ukeluver" <ukeluver@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Hello.
:
: Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
: upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
: wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
: after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
: odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
: resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
: get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
: get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
:
: I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
: turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
: queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
: (after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
: for any info and peace out.

If you haven't already done so, try resetting to factory settings and
reconfiguring from scratch. I don't recall having the problem you describe
with that model, but the latest (I think) rev to the superficially similar
WAP54G will partially clobber your settings. (One of the consequences is that
the AP can no longer be managed from a different subnet.) The solution was a
hardware reset. Try it on your router; you may get lucky.

Bob

Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-06-2006, 01:35 PM
Robert Coe
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:41:50 GMT, "Mr. Arnold6"
<TheDog@It's-A-Dog'sWorld66.COM> wrote:
: Ukeluver wrote:
: > Hello.
: >
: > Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
: > upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
: > wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
: > after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
: > odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
: > resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
: > get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
: > get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
: >
: > I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
: > turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
: > queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
: > (after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
: > for any info and peace out.
: >
:
: Unless you have a reason such as a firmware was released to fix a known
: problem or some security update, then one should think about doing any
: upgrade. If it's not broke, then you don't fix it.

It can be very difficult to tell how broke a piece of electronic gear is. Nine
times out of ten the safer course is to upgrade. (Try it on one router,
obviously, before you upgrade a dozen.)

Bob

Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-06-2006, 06:35 PM
John Navas
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:33:13 -0500, Robert Coe <bob@1776.COM> wrote in
<a5hdn25bnu4h8l3sld9uu7sdcnml6fm4o3@4ax.com>:

>On 2 Dec 2006 14:40:04 -0800, "Ukeluver" <ukeluver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>: Hello.
>:
>: Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
>: upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
>: wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
>: after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
>: odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
>: resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
>: get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
>: get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
>:
>: I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
>: turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
>: queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
>: (after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
>: for any info and peace out.
>
>If you haven't already done so, try resetting to factory settings and
>reconfiguring from scratch. ...


2nd the motion. Excellent advice. Good idea with most any product
after a firmware upgrade.

--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 12-17-2006, 05:00 AM
Mr. Arnold
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

Robert Coe wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:41:50 GMT, "Mr. Arnold6"
> <TheDog@It's-A-Dog'sWorld66.COM> wrote:
> : Ukeluver wrote:
> : > Hello.
> : >
> : > Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
> : > upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
> : > wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
> : > after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
> : > odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
> : > resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
> : > get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
> : > get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
> : >
> : > I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
> : > turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
> : > queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
> : > (after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
> : > for any info and peace out.
> : >
> :
> : Unless you have a reason such as a firmware was released to fix a known
> : problem or some security update, then one should think about doing any
> : upgrade. If it's not broke, then you don't fix it.
>
> It can be very difficult to tell how broke a piece of electronic gear is. Nine
> times out of ten the safer course is to upgrade. (Try it on one router,
> obviously, before you upgrade a dozen.)
>
> Bob


I disagree. Software/firmware and the electronic parts of a router are
two different things. Software is buggy, because a Human Being has
written it. We are not perfect so nothing we do is perfect. There is
always the chance of changing something is not a good thing.

If it's not broke, then you don't fix it is the wise move in most
things. I have been down the path of changing firmware on a router just
to be changing firmware, because I saw a new one, only to go back to the
previous version.

I learned long ago not to be changing the firmware, unless I was forced
to do so, to prevent unknown problems.

Duane :)

Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 12-17-2006, 12:30 PM
Chris Mcnally
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

You should check that the router still has your MAC address cloned. I
had that problem once with a Linksys, it lost that setting. Putting it
back to the same as my PC MAC id fixed it.

Starting from scratch with factory defaults is also a good idea.

If you enjoy flashing your router you might try one of the open source
firmwares such as OpenWRT or DD-WRT.



Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> "Ukeluver" <ukeluver@yahoo.com> hath wroth:
>
> >I want to see what Linksys/cisco has to say about this.

>
> No problem. Linksys techs sometimes answer questions on the Linksys
> forum on DSLReports.
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/linksys
> The Linksys are also available:
> http://forums.linksys.com/
>
> >My spouse says
> >that they probably plan the whole useful life of these things so that
> >you burn them out and have to replace them every so many years. I'm
> >not that cynical!

>
> There's an internal timer inside that's set to blow up something
> immediately after the warranty expires. See various conspiracy theory
> forums for the details.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558



Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 12-17-2006, 04:35 PM
Tony Hwang
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

Mr. Arnold wrote:

> Robert Coe wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 01:41:50 GMT, "Mr. Arnold6"
>> <TheDog@It's-A-Dog'sWorld66.COM> wrote:
>> : Ukeluver wrote:
>> : > Hello.
>> : > : > Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a
>> v1.1) after
>> : > upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
>> : > wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
>> : > after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
>> : > odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting
>> DNS
>> : > resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
>> : > get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine
>> and
>> : > get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
>> : > : > I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches,
>> but nothing
>> : > turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
>> : > queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
>> : > (after doing some keyword searches of the group via
>> googlegroups). TIA
>> : > for any info and peace out.
>> : > : : Unless you have a reason such as a firmware was released to
>> fix a known : problem or some security update, then one should think
>> about doing any : upgrade. If it's not broke, then you don't fix it.
>>
>> It can be very difficult to tell how broke a piece of electronic gear
>> is. Nine
>> times out of ten the safer course is to upgrade. (Try it on one router,
>> obviously, before you upgrade a dozen.)
>>
>> Bob

>
>
> I disagree. Software/firmware and the electronic parts of a router are
> two different things. Software is buggy, because a Human Being has
> written it. We are not perfect so nothing we do is perfect. There is
> always the chance of changing something is not a good thing.
>
> If it's not broke, then you don't fix it is the wise move in most
> things. I have been down the path of changing firmware on a router just
> to be changing firmware, because I saw a new one, only to go back to the
> previous version.
>
> I learned long ago not to be changing the firmware, unless I was forced
> to do so, to prevent unknown problems.
>
> Duane :)

Hi,
Agreed. Logic tells me if upgrading makes the router flaky then go back
down to old firmware. I don't upgrade anything because there is upgrade
when things are working well.

Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 12-20-2006, 10:12 PM
Ukeluver
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default UPDATE: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5


Ukeluver wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
> upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
> wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
> after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
> odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
> resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
> get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
> get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
>
> I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
> turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
> queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
> (after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
> for any info and peace out.


------
Even after the complete reset, the router kept flaking out. So I
replaced it with a Netgear, which is running solid. These cable
routers were worth spending alot of time with when they were $150.00.
Now that you can get one for $39.99, it's not worth it. My time and
sanity are worth more!


Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 12-21-2006, 01:32 AM
Tony Hwang
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: UPDATE: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5

Ukeluver wrote:

> Ukeluver wrote:
>
>>Hello.
>>
>>Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
>>upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
>>wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
>>after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
>>odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
>>resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
>>get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
>>get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
>>
>>I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
>>turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
>>queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
>>(after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
>>for any info and peace out.

>
>
> ------
> Even after the complete reset, the router kept flaking out. So I
> replaced it with a Netgear, which is running solid. These cable
> routers were worth spending alot of time with when they were $150.00.
> Now that you can get one for $39.99, it's not worth it. My time and
> sanity are worth more!
>

Hi,
So updating firmware caused the router go flaky? Then logic tells me to
go back down to previous version firmware. Or you could load 3rd party
firmware, dd-wrt which is rubust.

Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 12-28-2006, 07:15 PM
Ukeluver
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: UPDATE: WRT54G flakey after upgrade to V4.30.5


Tony Hwang wrote:
> Ukeluver wrote:
>
> > Ukeluver wrote:
> >
> >>Hello.
> >>
> >>Anyone experiencing problems with their WRT54G (mine is a v1.1) after
> >>upgrading the firmware from 3.x to 4.30.5? First I thought it was
> >>wireless access management config problems as it appeared to clear up
> >>after disabled wireless security. Now the problem is back and its so
> >>odd. I can ping the default router, but I don't seem to be getting DNS
> >>resolution. I had to plug my comcast router directly to my laptop to
> >>get an internet connection. I can connect to the router just fine and
> >>get an address via dhcp, but I can't get any further.
> >>
> >>I went over to linksys.com, did some tech support searches, but nothing
> >>turned up. I thought about live chat but there are 60 people in the
> >>queue and I have to go out. So I'd thought I post something here
> >>(after doing some keyword searches of the group via googlegroups). TIA
> >>for any info and peace out.

> >
> >
> > ------
> > Even after the complete reset, the router kept flaking out. So I
> > replaced it with a Netgear, which is running solid. These cable
> > routers were worth spending alot of time with when they were $150.00.
> > Now that you can get one for $39.99, it's not worth it. My time and
> > sanity are worth more!
> >

> Hi,
> So updating firmware caused the router go flaky? Then logic tells me to
> go back down to previous version firmware. Or you could load 3rd party
> firmware, dd-wrt which is rubust.


When I sat down and thought about it, the router had been acting flakey
before the upgrade . . .disconnects; not "remembering" it's settings
and so forth. So the upgrade was not the cause.

thanks for the dd-wrt suggestion. I knew those things existed but I
didn't know how to go about finding them.


Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Possible to have D-Link Wireless USB Adapter (DWL-G122) Connect to WRT54G? Rip RocK alt.internet.wireless 1 01-01-2007 04:47 AM
Could anything more go wrong with an o2 upgrade than this? (long) Anim uk.telecom.mobile 8 12-09-2006 09:30 AM
My wrt54g is now a wrt54gl after firmware upgrade. eastcoastguyz alt.internet.wireless 13 08-12-2006 12:53 AM
56k dial up on laptop 802.11G ? bumtracks alt.internet.wireless 117 08-06-2005 07:09 PM
Modem Router + WRT54G? Steel Hardware Discussion 7 02-18-2005 08:26 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45