20 reasons why Next G is better than CDMA

With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network, and
a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.

Next G network CDMA network
1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million sq kms*
3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
(using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
(1xEV-DO)
6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms > 7,600
sq kms (EV-DO)
9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9 countries
10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
14. BigPond TV Yes No
15. Sensis search Yes No
16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
including full match replays Yes No
17. Whereis maps Yes No
18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No

Alan Parkington <alanparkington@team.telstra.net> wrote:

> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network,

Planned and what happens are two entirely different matters.

> and a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.

None of which have even the remotest relevance to
those who find that the cdma system suits them fine.

If the new govt actually had any balls at all, it would tell the mex
and its arse lickers that they cant turn the cdma system off, ever.

> Next G network CDMA network
> 1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million
> sq kms* 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
> 4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
> (1xEV-DO)
> 6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
> 7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
> 8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms >
> 7,600 sq kms (EV-DO)
> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
> countries 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
> 14. BigPond TV Yes No
> 15. Sensis search Yes No
> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
> including full match replays Yes No
> 17. Whereis maps Yes No
> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
> 19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
> 20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No

Alan, Sir Paste Alot, Parkington copied and pasted:
> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network, and
> a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
>
> Next G network CDMA network
> 1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480

It's well known that Tel$tra have been turning off CDMA cells for
months to degrade service in a pathetic attempt to move customers over
to Next G.

> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million sq kms*
> 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*

Population coverage is a crock of shit!

> 4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
> (1xEV-DO)
> 6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
> 7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
> 8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms > 7,600
> sq kms (EV-DO)
> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9 countries

Yeh, right how many countries are using UMTS 850MHz? I can't see people
roaming too much!

> 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No

Most people don't give a shit about video calling!

> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No

Most people don't give a shit about video messaging!

> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No

Most people don't give a shit about Mobile Foxtel!

> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No

Most people don't give a shit about BigPong Mobile Music!

> 14. BigPond TV Yes No

Most people don't give a shit about BigPong TV!

> 15. Sensis search Yes No

Sensis search might have some minimal benefit, but most people would
rather ring the operator and no reason why it couldn't be accessible via
CDMA!

> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
> including full match replays Yes No

Big fucking deal, who would want to watch sport on a shitty little screen?

> 17. Whereis maps Yes No

Might have some limited benefit, no reason why WhereIs maps couldn't be
made available on CDMA anyway!

> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No

Easily available on CDMA!

> 19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No

No reason why Tel$tra bills couldn't be accessible via CDMA!

> 20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No

Only because Sol and his Mexican Arse Bandits that are raping Tel$tra
want to turn CDMA off!

Fuck of Parkington and take your pathetic propaganda shit elsewhere.
Better still go and bend over for the Mexican Arse Bandits, I'm sure
they will be more than happy to fuck you as well as Tel$tra!


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.

On Jan 13, 6:56*am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan Parkington <alanparking...@team.telstra.net> wrote:
> > With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network,
>
> Planned and what happens are two entirely different matters.
>
> > and a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
>
> None of which have even the remotest relevance to
> those who find that the cdma system suits them fine.
>
> If the new govt actually had any balls at all, it would tell the mex
> and its arse lickers that they cant turn the cdma system off, ever.
>
>
>
> > * * * *Next G network CDMA network
> > * * *1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
> > * * *2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million
> > sq kms* 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
> > * * *4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
> > * * *5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
> > * * *(using a 7 series device) *300 - 600 kbps
> > * * *(1xEV-DO)
> > * * *6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
> > * * *7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
> > * * *8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms >
> > 7,600 sq kms (EV-DO)
> > * * *9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
> > countries 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
> > * * *11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
> > * * *12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
> > * * *13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
> > * * *14. BigPond TV Yes No
> > * * *15. Sensis search Yes No
> > * * *16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
> > * * *including full match replays Yes No
> > * * *17. Whereis maps Yes No
> > * * *18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
> > * * *19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
> > * * *20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I was talking with a communications networks engineer the other day
and she told me that CDMA is going, period. Jan 28 is the cut-off and
that's that. She further said that it's time to move on with the new
technology, and at the end of the day NG is much better than CDMA.

Spokes <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Alan Parkington <alanparking...@team.telstra.net> wrote

>>> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network,

>> Planned and what happens are two entirely different matters.

>>> and a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.

>> None of which have even the remotest relevance to
>> those who find that the cdma system suits them fine.

>> If the new govt actually had any balls at all, it would tell the mex
>> and its arse lickers that they cant turn the cdma system off, ever.

>>> Next G network CDMA network
>>> 1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
>>> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million
>>> sq kms* 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
>>> 4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
>>> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
>>> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
>>> (1xEV-DO)
>>> 6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
>>> 7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
>>> 8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms >
>>> 7,600 sq kms (EV-DO)
>>> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
>>> countries 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
>>> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
>>> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
>>> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
>>> 14. BigPond TV Yes No
>>> 15. Sensis search Yes No
>>> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
>>> including full match replays Yes No
>>> 17. Whereis maps Yes No
>>> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
>>> 19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
>>> 20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No

> I was talking with a communications networks engineer
> the other day and she told me that CDMA is going, period.

Telstra gets no say what so ever on that, the govt does.

> Jan 28 is the cut-off and that's that.

That is a bare faced pig ignorant lie. The previous govt changed the license
conditions so that the govt decides on the cut off date, not telstra.

> She further said that it's time to move on with the new technology,

She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.

> and at the end of the day NG is much better than CDMA.

She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.

"Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> dribbled in message
news:5usm32F1jvgn0U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> Big fucking deal, who would want to watch sport on a shitty little screen?
>

Your age is showing, old man. Kids these days LIVE on their mobile and love
the extra services.

>
> Only because Sol and his Mexican Arse Bandits that are raping Tel$tra want
> to turn CDMA off!
>

More racist rubbish. When you insult people based on the colour of their
skin, it drowns out any other reasonably valid arguments you may have had.

Alan Parkington wrote:
> Your age is showing, old man. Kids these days LIVE on their mobile and love
> the extra services.

Good luck to them, doesn't mean everyone wants to watch it. If their
parents can afford the massive bills it will generate then good luck to
them!

> More racist rubbish. When you insult people based on the colour of their
> skin, it drowns out any other reasonably valid arguments you may have had.

Nothing to do with race or colour, the media labelled them the Mexican
bandits a long time ago. I merely extended on that calling them Arse
Bandits because they are raping Tel$tra blind!

It's common knowledge that Sol has raped every company into extinction
that he has managed in the past and walked with the assets each time,
sure he is a smart cunt to be able to tie up his contracts to be able to
do it legally but the fact remains he don't give a shit about Tel$tra!


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.

On Jan 13, 11:01*am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Spokes <spokesman...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Alan Parkington <alanparking...@team.telstra.net> wrote
> >>> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network,
> >> Planned and what happens are two entirely different matters.
> >>> and a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
> >> None of which have even the remotest relevance to
> >> those who find that the cdma system suits them fine.
> >> If the new govt actually had any balls at all, it would tell the mex
> >> and its arse lickers that they cant turn the cdma system off, ever.
> >>> Next G network CDMA network
> >>> 1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
> >>> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million
> >>> sq kms* 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
> >>> 4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
> >>> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
> >>> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
> >>> (1xEV-DO)
> >>> 6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
> >>> 7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
> >>> 8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms >
> >>> 7,600 sq kms (EV-DO)
> >>> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
> >>> countries 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
> >>> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
> >>> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
> >>> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
> >>> 14. BigPond TV Yes No
> >>> 15. Sensis search Yes No
> >>> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
> >>> including full match replays Yes No
> >>> 17. Whereis maps Yes No
> >>> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
> >>> 19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
> >>> 20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No
> > I was talking with a communications networks engineer
> > the other day and she told me that CDMA is going, period.
>
> Telstra gets no say what so ever on that, the govt does.
>
> > Jan 28 is the cut-off and that's that.
>
> That is a bare faced pig ignorant lie. The previous govt changed the license
> conditions so that the govt decides on the cut off date, not telstra.
>
> > She further said that it's time to move on with the new technology,
>
> She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.
>
> > and at the end of the day NG is much better than CDMA.
>
> She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I didn't say who she worked for. She's an engineer and she was only
stating what is known throughout the whole industry and the general
public.
As yet, the government hasn't indicated a change of mind on the cut-
off date away from Jan 28.

I believe there has been one concession though, of allowing an extra
30 days for CDMA numbers to be retained for migration purposes to GSM
networks. After that, the number is lost if one hasn't made the change
in time.

Hvae you migrated away from the CDMA network Rod?

"Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
news:5usm32F1jvgn0U1@mid.individual.net...

> It's well known that Tel$tra have been turning off CDMA cells for months
> to degrade service in a pathetic attempt to move customers over to Next G.

Well known??

I'm not a fan of Telstra, but I can't stand num-nut conspiracy theorists
like yourself who make claims which simply can't be backed up.

Back under your rock now, please.

P

Spokes <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Spokes <spokesman...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Alan Parkington <alanparking...@team.telstra.net> wrote

>>>>> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network,

>>>> Planned and what happens are two entirely different matters.

>>>>> and a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.

>>>> None of which have even the remotest relevance to
>>>> those who find that the cdma system suits them fine.

>>>> If the new govt actually had any balls at all, it would tell the mex
>>>> and its arse lickers that they cant turn the cdma system off, ever.

>>>>> Next G network CDMA network
>>>>> 1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
>>>>> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million
>>>>> sq kms* 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
>>>>> 4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
>>>>> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
>>>>> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
>>>>> (1xEV-DO)
>>>>> 6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
>>>>> 7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
>>>>> 8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms >
>>>>> 7,600 sq kms (EV-DO)
>>>>> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
>>>>> countries 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
>>>>> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
>>>>> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
>>>>> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
>>>>> 14. BigPond TV Yes No
>>>>> 15. Sensis search Yes No
>>>>> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
>>>>> including full match replays Yes No
>>>>> 17. Whereis maps Yes No
>>>>> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
>>>>> 19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
>>>>> 20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No

>>> I was talking with a communications networks engineer
>>> the other day and she told me that CDMA is going, period.

>> Telstra gets no say what so ever on that, the govt does.

>>> Jan 28 is the cut-off and that's that.

>> That is a bare faced pig ignorant lie. The previous govt changed the
>> license conditions so that the govt decides on the cut off date, not telstra.

>>> She further said that it's time to move on with the new technology,

>> She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.

>>> and at the end of the day NG is much better than CDMA.

>> She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.

> I didn't say who she worked for.

She's a pig ignorant fool, particularly on the cut off date.

> She's an engineer and she was only stating what is known
> throughout the whole industry and the general public.

And that is a bare faced lie on the cut off date and the future of cdma too.

> As yet, the government hasn't indicated a change
> of mind on the cut-off date away from Jan 28.

Doesnt need to, its the acma that is deciding if telstra's claim
that the NextG network provides the same or better coverage
as the cdma system is just another bare faced telstra lie.

> I believe there has been one concession though, of allowing an extra 30 days
> for CDMA numbers to be retained for migration purposes to GSM networks.

So much for the previous bare faced lie that if you dont convert
before Jan 28, you will lose your number. That was always a
bare faced lie and telstra was never allowed to do that.

So it aint even a 'concession', its what the law requires and has always required.

> After that, the number is lost if one hasn't made the change in time.

We'll see...

> Hvae you migrated away from the CDMA network Rod?

Nope.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:14:59 +1100, Simon Templar wrote:

> The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
> belong to.

DO you belong to any organisation?

Alan Parkington wrote:
> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network, and
> a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
>
> Next G network CDMA network
> 1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million sq kms*
> 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
> 4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
> (1xEV-DO)
> 6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
> 7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
> 8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms > 7,600
> sq kms (EV-DO)
> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9 countries
> 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
> 14. BigPond TV Yes No
> 15. Sensis search Yes No
> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
> including full match replays Yes No
> 17. Whereis maps Yes No
> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
> 19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
> 20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No
>
>

Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We had the
car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have anywhere near the
same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than 100 km's
from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop woop.
That means we can't even make simple voice calls, let alone handle all
the other stuff. All we need them to actually do is make phone calls,
and they don't do that effectively.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:08:15 Graeme Willox may have written:
<snip>

1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work much
further from the BTS.

PD

--
Paul Day

Alan Parkington wrote...

> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network, and
> a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
>
> 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*

Wow. 0.9 percent increase. I'm impressed. Of course, it's probably in areas
where it's not needed...

> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps

Well, if I can ever get close to 550 kbps I'd be rapt. Best I've seen and it's
been consistant is 240 kbps.

> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps

Ah, the rider. How many of us have 7 series devices?

> 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No

Big deal. It's expensive and looks like shit. No better than some crappy webcam
on a dialup connection.

> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No

Like the riders "on most handsets"...

> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No

And tell us how good that really is. ie. limited to 15min. a session and it more
expensive than the real Foxtel.

> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No

I can convert MP3s for free and upload them to either my mobile or my PDA or
even my $50 Sandisk MP3 player for nix.

> 14. BigPond TV Yes No

Hands up those who like watching lo res television on a screen the size of a
matchbox.

> 15. Sensis search Yes No

And this is good, why?

> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,

ABC radio, available anywhere also has coverage of the AFL and it costs us
nothing. Er, sorry, 8 cents a day.

> including full match replays Yes No

Big deal. Watch 'em when I get home, if some codmouth hasn't blurted out the
final scores in the meantime.

> 17. Whereis maps Yes No
> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No

More stuff that costs an arm and a leg.

Hey, don't get me wrong. NextG is great as far as the gadget factor goes. For a
residential consumer the 3G stuff is really superfluous and costs a lot of
money. It's just a pity that NextG in its entirety isn't available on a capped
plan like what phone calls are. For the extra goodies you, well, have to pay
extra, a lot extra...

"Horry" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8gm1ygy837v5.1n6bjwkyq0jgg$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:14:59 +1100, Simon Templar wrote:
>
>> The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
>> belong to.
>
> DO you belong to any organisation?

The only organisation that will have him is " The House with no steps".

Alan Parkington wrote...

> Your age is showing, old man. Kids these days LIVE on their mobile and love
> the extra services.

Yep, Parky's probably right, here. After all, look at the mind numbing ads for
ringtones at $5 a pop. Only teenagers would be stupid enough to succumb to such
advertising. Then add in the "wow factor" with regards to getting crappy pay TV
on a phone, or webcam-like video calls and they're in a perpetual state of
orgasmic raptures.

Any wonder that as they grow older they have no fucking idea on how to manage
money, or how to live within their means. The crunch is coming, folks, bigtime.

Pagey wrote...

> I'm not a fan of Telstra, but I can't stand num-nut conspiracy theorists
> like yourself who make claims which simply can't be backed up.

It was posted here by a local recently that a place called Dargo in Victoria
(eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in November.

That's at least one place. Who knows how many others there are.

Graeme Willox wrote...

> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We had the
> car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have anywhere near the
> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than 100 km's
> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop woop.

Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In other words, where
are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are familiar with the
area and may be able to confirm this.

Snapper <snapper_won@yahoo.com.au> wrote
> Alan Parkington wrote

>> Your age is showing, old man. Kids these days
>> LIVE on their mobile and love the extra services.

> Yep, Parky's probably right, here.

Not in the sense he originally claimed it, that NextG is the
only thing they consider because of its extra services.

> After all, look at the mind numbing ads for ringtones at $5 a
> pop. Only teenagers would be stupid enough to succumb to
> such advertising. Then add in the "wow factor" with regards
> to getting crappy pay TV on a phone, or webcam-like video
> calls and they're in a perpetual state of orgasmic raptures.

> Any wonder that as they grow older they have no fucking
> idea on how to manage money, or how to live within their
> means. The crunch is coming, folks, bigtime.

Nope, they eventually get a boot in the arse and come to their senses, most of them.

Snapper wrote:
> Graeme Willox wrote...
>
>> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
>> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We had the
>> car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have anywhere near the
>> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than 100 km's
>> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop woop.
>
> Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In other words, where
> are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are familiar with the
> area and may be able to confirm this.

South of Brisbane. I'm not sure what results we got in other areas.

The Parliamentarians will never allow CDMA to be shutdown. Bob Hawke told me
so.
Regards, Bill Oddie

"Spokes" <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 13, 11:01 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Spokes <spokesman...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Alan Parkington <alanparking...@team.telstra.net> wrote
> >>> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA
> >>> network,
> >> Planned and what happens are two entirely different matters.
> >>> and a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
> >> None of which have even the remotest relevance to
> >> those who find that the cdma system suits them fine.
> >> If the new govt actually had any balls at all, it would tell the mex
> >> and its arse lickers that they cant turn the cdma system off, ever.
> >>> Next G network CDMA network
> >>> 1. More sites (towers) > 6,000 3,480
> >>> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million
> >>> sq kms* 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
> >>> 4. Peak network speed 14.4 Mbps 2.4 Mbps
> >>> 5. Typical User Download speeds 550 kbps - 3 Mbps
> >>> (using a 7 series device) 300 - 600 kbps
> >>> (1xEV-DO)
> >>> 6. Peak upload speeds 1.9 Mbps 153 kbps
> >>> 7. Wireless Broadband population coverage 98.9% 49%
> >>> 8. Wireless Broadband geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms >
> >>> 7,600 sq kms (EV-DO)
> >>> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
> >>> countries 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
> >>> 11. Video messaging Yes (on most handsets) No
> >>> 12. Mobile FOXTEL Yes No
> >>> 13. BigPond Mobile Music Yes No
> >>> 14. BigPond TV Yes No
> >>> 15. Sensis search Yes No
> >>> 16. Exclusive Mobile coverage of the NRL and AFL seasons,
> >>> including full match replays Yes No
> >>> 17. Whereis maps Yes No
> >>> 18. View weather maps and conditions on your mobile Yes No
> >>> 19. View and pay your Telstra bills on your mobile Yes No
> >>> 20. Will be available after early 2008 Yes No
> > I was talking with a communications networks engineer
> > the other day and she told me that CDMA is going, period.
>
> Telstra gets no say what so ever on that, the govt does.
>
> > Jan 28 is the cut-off and that's that.
>
> That is a bare faced pig ignorant lie. The previous govt changed the
> license
> conditions so that the govt decides on the cut off date, not telstra.
>
> > She further said that it's time to move on with the new technology,
>
> She gets no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.
>
> > and at the end of the day NG is much better than CDMA.
>
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I didn't say who she worked for. She's an engineer and she was only
stating what is known throughout the whole industry and the general
public.
As yet, the government hasn't indicated a change of mind on the cut-
off date away from Jan 28.

I believe there has been one concession though, of allowing an extra
30 days for CDMA numbers to be retained for migration purposes to GSM
networks. After that, the number is lost if one hasn't made the change
in time.

Hvae you migrated away from the CDMA network Rod?



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"Snapper" <snapper_won@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:fi7lo391q10kg2qh16pqf37dsbcc1bajdo@yarwho.com ...
> Pagey wrote...
>
>> I'm not a fan of Telstra, but I can't stand num-nut conspiracy theorists
>> like yourself who make claims which simply can't be backed up.
>
> It was posted here by a local recently that a place called Dargo in
> Victoria
> (eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in November.

As I said - claims that can't be backed up.

While I don't doubt the person who posted that info suffered from reduced
reception, it is NOT well known - or even known at all - if Telstra has been
shutting down CDMA sites to reduce reception, as claimed by Templar.

Anybody would (or at least should) agree that 'one' person hardly equals
'well known'.

P

> I believe there has been one concession though, of allowing an extra
> 30 days for CDMA numbers to be retained for migration purposes to GSM

28 days, not 30.

> networks. After that, the number is lost if one hasn't made the change
> in time.

> It's well known that Tel$tra have been turning off CDMA cells for months
> to degrade service in a pathetic attempt to move customers over to Next G.

Liar

>> 2. Wider geographic coverage > 2 million sq kms* > 1.6 million sq
>> kms*
>> 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
>
> Population coverage is a crock of shit!

Bullshit

>> 9. International roaming for voice and SMS 170 countries 9
>> countries
>
> Yeh, right how many countries are using UMTS 850MHz? I can't see people
> roaming too much!

Moron. You can roam onto other 2g networks - 170 countries

>> 10. Video calling Yes (on most handsets) No
>
> Most people don't give a shit about video calling!

you are right for once.

> Most people don't give a shit about Mobile Foxtel!

Nope, that one is pretty popular

"Snapper" <snapper_won@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:fi7lo391q10kg2qh16pqf37dsbcc1bajdo@yarwho.com ...
> Pagey wrote...
>
>> I'm not a fan of Telstra, but I can't stand num-nut conspiracy theorists
>> like yourself who make claims which simply can't be backed up.
>
> It was posted here by a local recently that a place called Dargo in
> Victoria
> (eastern part of the state) had its CDMA service turned off in November.

And it was a mindless conspiracy theory.

If anything, its a fault, and those stupid Gippslanders wouldnt know how to
report one if their arse was on fire.

> That's at least one place. Who knows how many others there are.

Why would Telstra select Dargo, to turn CDMA off, and not close any other
sites in Aus?

"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
news:1200217644.680699@colossus.enigma.id.au...
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:08:15 Graeme Willox may have written:
> <snip>
>
> 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work much
> further from the BTS.

But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is useless

"Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:fmfk41$hjd$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
> Snapper wrote:
>> Graeme Willox wrote...
>>
>>> Telstra recently provided ZTE 165 model phones with car kits as
>>> replacements for the CDMA phones we used to have at work. We had the
>>> car kits duly fitted and now find that we don't have anywhere near the
>>> same coverage as we had with the CDMA phones. That's less than 100 km's
>>> from a capital city, too. It's not out in the middle of woop woop.
>>
>> Which capital city? And east, west, north or south of it? In other words,
>> where
>> are you, exactly? There might be others on this NG who are familiar with
>> the
>> area and may be able to confirm this.
>
> South of Brisbane. I'm not sure what results we got in other areas.

"south of brisbane" - really impressive accuracy there

"Snapper" <snapper_won@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:52njo3d2lmi93sn0knrhh5apoc6d2lailk@yarwho.com ...
> Alan Parkington wrote...
>
>> With only days to go until the planned closure of the old CDMA network,
>> and
>> a score of reasons why trading-up to Next GT is a great move.
>>
>> 3. More population coverage 98.9%* 98%*
>
> Wow. 0.9 percent increase. I'm impressed. Of course, it's probably in
> areas
> where it's not needed...

The differential b/w 98.9 and 98.0 is 400,000 sq km. Which is apparantly
twice the size of Victoria, fool

Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
> news:1200217644.680699@colossus.enigma.id.au...
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:08:15 Graeme Willox may have written:
>> <snip>
>>
>> 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work
>> much further from the BTS.
>
> But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is
> useless

No it isnt when the extra sites arent anywhere near where someone
who used to be able to use a cdma phone cant use a NextG phone.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:20:40 Michael may have written:
> > 1 reason why CDMA is better than NextG out in the bush: Calls work much
> > further from the BTS.
>
> But NextG has more total coverage (via more sites) so your point is useless

Not so pointless to the outback worker who no longer has mobile coverage
at their primary place of work/residence come Jan. 28th.

PD

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Paul Day