thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> The NextG system operates under the cdma licence.
>>> bullshit,
>> Your sig is supposed to have a --- before it, fuckwit.
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:06:26 +1100, Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net>
wrote:
>Rod Speed wrote:
>> The govt should be telling telstra that they cant turn the cdma system
>> off because none of the cdma customers were told that telstra was
>> going to turn the cdma system off when it flogged them a cdma service.
>
>I agree totally, but this has come about because the Government fucked
>things right up by opening the Telecommunications Industry every fuck
>wit that thinks they can run a network. This might work fine in Europe
>where the population density is great and you can spit across two or
>three borders, but forget it here in Australia.
>
>Our situation is totally FUCKED because there are so many tin pot
>networks out there that only want to set up in Capital Cities and don't
>give a fuck about the rest of Australia.
>
>The only way this can be rectified in my opinion is having ONE company
>responsible infrastructure for Telecommunications, be it mobile,
>landline or Broadband Internet. Then that ONE company NOT ever deal with
>the public, but only the resellers.
>
>I don't give a FUCK who that company was (or if the Government decided
>to take it over again). That would be the only way in my opinion would
>be to have effective nation wide coverage and the competition level
>shifted to the resellers who would have to pay to maintain the
>infrastructure.
dave wrote:
> wtf ? you don't like competition ?
>
> Are u a fucking communist ??
Are you FUCKING STUPID? Read the post again moron, I believe the
competition needs to be at the reseller level. The only way to get
decent coverage all over Australia is to have one network, with
competition at the level we have now none of the providers including
Tel$tra give a fuck about anything but major population areas.
--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.
Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote
> dave wrote
>> wtf ? you don't like competition ?
>> Are u a fucking communist ??
> Are you FUCKING STUPID? Read the post again moron, I believe the competition needs to be at the reseller level. The
> only way to get decent coverage all over Australia is to have one network,
Wrong, as always. We got that with the GlobalStar system, fool.
> with competition at the level we have now none of the providers including
> Tel$tra give a fuck about anything but major population areas.
dave wrote:
> Having ONE network will deny consumers & business' choice you spastic.
> Competition is needed to bring a divergence in services and pricing.
CRAP, the resellers can have different pricing and services and not have
to worry about the infrastructure!
> That's utter bullshit. Optarse has decent coverage in regional/country
> areas and they're already deploying a fibre network in conjunction
> with Elders.
Optarse coverage is FUCKING Pathetic in the Yarra Valley where I live,
so don't give me shit about better coverage!
As I said before the current situation does not encourage any network to
improve coverage all over Australia, they are only interested in having
coverage where they can generate the most revenue!
--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.
Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote
> dave wrote
>> Having ONE network will deny consumers & business' choice you spastic. Competition is needed to bring a divergence in
>> services and pricing.
> CRAP,
You sig is sposed to be at the bottom with a --- in front of it, child.
> the resellers can have different pricing and services and not have to worry about the infrastructure!
Wrong, as always. With a govt monopoly providing that infrastructure,
with that monopoly not having to give a damn whether the resellers like
what they are providing or not, because its a monopoly with no where
else for them to go, they will have one hell of a problem, fuckwit.
>>> with competition at the level we have now none of the providers including
>>> Tel$tra give a fuck about anything but major population areas.
>> That's utter bullshit.
It is indeed.
>> Optarse has decent coverage in regional/country areas and they're already deploying a fibre network in conjunction
>> with Elders.
> Optarse coverage is FUCKING Pathetic in the Yarra Valley where I live,
Because only fuckwit povs 'live' there, not worth bothering with.
> so don't give me shit about better coverage!
Its true anyway, fuckwit.
> As I said before the current situation does not encourage any network to improve coverage all over Australia,
Have fun explaining the GlobalStar system, fool.
> they are only interested in having coverage where they can generate the most revenue!
Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
No surprise that its a 'security' goon and no one is actually stupid
enough to employ it do to anything more demanding that pet ape.
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:40:45 +1100, Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net>
wrote:
>dave wrote:
>> Having ONE network will deny consumers & business' choice you spastic.
>> Competition is needed to bring a divergence in services and pricing.
>
>CRAP, the resellers can have different pricing and services and not have
>to worry about the infrastructure!
>
>> That's utter bullshit. Optarse has decent coverage in regional/country
>> areas and they're already deploying a fibre network in conjunction
>> with Elders.
>
>Optarse coverage is FUCKING Pathetic in the Yarra Valley where I live,
>so don't give me shit about better coverage!
I recently travelled 3000KM throughout Outback NSW with a few mates
and had bloody good coverage with Optarse, even on the remote Barrier
Highway which is in the middle of fuckall.
So you're talking bullshit. You must have some shitty handset or
you're full of crap.
>As I said before the current situation does not encourage any network to
>improve coverage all over Australia, they are only interested in having
>coverage where they can generate the most revenue!
Have fun explaining why Optarse has better coverage in some outback
towns than Telstra. Funny that.
dave <dave@gtx.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:40:45 +1100, Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net>
> wrote:
>
>> dave wrote:
>>> Having ONE network will deny consumers & business' choice you
>>> spastic. Competition is needed to bring a divergence in services
>>> and pricing.
>>
>> CRAP, the resellers can have different pricing and services and not
>> have to worry about the infrastructure!
>>
>>> That's utter bullshit. Optarse has decent coverage in
>>> regional/country areas and they're already deploying a fibre
>>> network in conjunction with Elders.
>>
>> Optarse coverage is FUCKING Pathetic in the Yarra Valley where I
>> live, so don't give me shit about better coverage!
>
> I recently travelled 3000KM throughout Outback NSW with a few mates
> and had bloody good coverage with Optarse, even on the remote Barrier
> Highway which is in the middle of fuckall.
>
> So you're talking bullshit. You must have some shitty handset or you're full of crap.
Or both.
>> As I said before the current situation does not encourage any network
>> to improve coverage all over Australia, they are only interested in
>> having coverage where they can generate the most revenue!
> Have fun explaining why Optarse has better coverage in some outback towns than Telstra. Funny that.
> There's also the little issue of having to wholesale CDMA. No such
> requirement exist with Next-G. IMHO, that is the primary driver in
> shutting down the CDMA network. Sol is not too keen on having his
> competitors being
Hardly, there has always been 3 fifths of bugger all wholesaling on both GSM
and CDMA with Telstra
Telstra never really got into wholesale on mobiles
> The govt should be telling telstra that they cant turn the cdma system
> off because none of the cdma customers were told that telstra was
> going to turn the cdma system off when it flogged them a cdma service.
As soon as the decision was made (over 2 years ago) customers were told it
was being shut
>> I agree totally, but this has come about because the Government fucked
>> things right up by opening the Telecommunications Industry every fuck wit
>> that thinks they can run a network.
>
> Nope, even you should have noticed that telstra is the old telecom
> monopoly.
clearly not. none of our current mobile networks existed when telstra was a
monopoly in mobiles
>>> I agree totally, but this has come about because the Government
>>> fucked things right up by opening the Telecommunications Industry
>>> every fuck wit that thinks they can run a network.
>> Nope, even you should have noticed that telstra is the old telecom monopoly.
> clearly not.
Pathetic.
> none of our current mobile networks existed when telstra was a monopoly in mobiles
>> The govt should be telling telstra that they cant turn the cdma system off because none of the cdma customers were
>> told that telstra was going to turn the cdma system off when it flogged them a cdma service.
> As soon as the decision was made (over 2 years ago) customers were told it was being shut
Pity about those who bought their cdma handsets before that.
And plenty that were sold cdma after that decision had been made
werent told at the time they signed up for cdma that it was planned
to have the plug pulled on it on the 28 Jan just past either.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> The govt should be telling telstra that they cant turn the cdma system
>>> off because none of the cdma customers were told that telstra was going
>>> to turn the cdma system off when it flogged them a cdma service.
>
>> As soon as the decision was made (over 2 years ago) customers were told
>> it was being shut
>
> Pity about those who bought their cdma handsets before that.
No pity at all. Those that bought their handsets <2 years arent on contract
anymore.
The contract defines Telstra's obligations. If there is no contract their is
no obligation to provide an ongoing service
> And plenty that were sold cdma after that decision had been made
> werent told at the time they signed up for cdma that it was planned
> to have the plug pulled on it on the 28 Jan just past either.
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> The govt should be telling telstra that they cant turn the cdma
>>>> system off because none of the cdma customers were told that
>>>> telstra was going to turn the cdma system off when it flogged them
>>>> a cdma service.
>>> As soon as the decision was made (over 2 years ago) customers were told it was being shut
>> Pity about those who bought their cdma handsets before that.
> No pity at all.
Wrong, as always.
> Those that bought their handsets <2 years arent on contract anymore.
Irrelevant to whether they are entitled to be able to use those
handsets when they werent warned that telstra would pull the
plug on the cdma system when they bought those handsets.
> The contract defines Telstra's obligations.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a
fucking clue about even the most basic consumer law, or anything else at all, either.
> If there is no contract their is no obligation to provide an ongoing service
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a
fucking clue about even the most basic consumer law, or anything else at all, either.
>> And plenty that were sold cdma after that decision had been made
>> werent told at the time they signed up for cdma that it was planned
>> to have the plug pulled on it on the 28 Jan just past either.
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