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Old 12-08-2007, 04:32 AM
Jonathan Wilson
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Default best carrier for mobile phone service in perth railway tunnel

Can anyone tell me which carrier is going to have the best service inside
the new perth CBD rail tunnel? I know you can get service down there, I saw
people talking on phones inside it the other day, I just want to know how
the different carriers rate when it comes to actually getting service.

Oh and the same thing for the Subiaco Train Station tunnels (I can never
seem to hold service down there either)

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Old 12-08-2007, 05:09 AM
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au>
Newsgroups: aus.comms.mobile,wa.general
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:32 PM
Subject: best carrier for mobile phone service in perth railway tunnel

If it's like Sydney then there's no underground cover! There is coverage at
all of the stations but 200 metres out of the stations the coverage ceases.

I love watching the technoidiots that don't know this. The expressions on
their faces is priceless!



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Old 12-08-2007, 08:46 AM
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"Krusty" <news@kogarah.net> wrote in message
news:475a2716$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au>
> Newsgroups: aus.comms.mobile,wa.general
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:32 PM
> Subject: best carrier for mobile phone service in perth railway tunnel
>
> If it's like Sydney then there's no underground cover! There is coverage
> at
> all of the stations but 200 metres out of the stations the coverage
> ceases.
>
> I love watching the technoidiots that don't know this. The expressions on
> their faces is priceless!
>
>


I don't know for sure, but I would have thought they would have done the
same as the Polly Pipe and relay the signals.

Mike




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Old 12-08-2007, 10:49 AM
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"Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
news:475a1e46$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Can anyone tell me which carrier is going to have the best service inside
> the new perth CBD rail tunnel? I know you can get service down there, I
> saw people talking on phones inside it the other day, I just want to know
> how the different carriers rate when it comes to actually getting service.
>
> Oh and the same thing for the Subiaco Train Station tunnels (I can never
> seem to hold service down there either)


From what I know , it could be Optus that people in the CBD rail tunnel are
using.

I know for a fact that Optus is the only service that can be used in a lift
and in lower basement levels because it is on a different frequency than
Telstra.
Not sure about Telstra's NextG .


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Old 12-08-2007, 11:18 AM
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On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:49:28 +0900, "Sandgroper"
<steveray@KNICKERSiinet.net.au> wrote:


>Not sure about Telstra's NextG .


Is anyone?

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Old 12-08-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: best carrier for mobile phone service in perth railway tunnel

Now that I think about it, maybe I should just ask next time I go through
the tunnel and see someone talking on their phone when I dont have service.

Or I could contact Transperth and ask them if they know about service down
there (being that its their rail tunnel, they would know if any phone
companies installed antennas/whatever down there)

Either way should hopefully result in the information I seek.

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Old 12-08-2007, 07:09 PM
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Jonathan Wilson wrote:

> Now that I think about it, maybe I should just ask next time I
> go through the tunnel and see someone talking on their phone
> when I dont have service.
>
> Or I could contact Transperth and ask them if they know about
> service down there (being that its their rail tunnel, they
> would know if any phone companies installed antennas/whatever
> down there)
>
> Either way should hopefully result in the information I seek.


Do a network search on your own phone, and see which carriers it
finds a signal from.

John

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Old 12-09-2007, 12:53 AM
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> Trust me, the work that went into the comms in the polypipe was serious shite.
What is the polypipe?

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Old 12-09-2007, 01:26 AM
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On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:53:34 in aus.comms.mobile Jonathan Wilson may have written:
> > Trust me, the work that went into the comms in the polypipe was serious shite.

> What is the polypipe?


Cut n cover road tunnel east-west through North Bridge (suburb just
north of Perth CBD).

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Old 12-09-2007, 01:50 AM
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On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:46:42 +0900, "Bloke Down The Pub" <cabling@4xiinet.net.au>
wrote:

>
>"Krusty" <news@kogarah.net> wrote in message
>news:475a2716$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au>
>> Newsgroups: aus.comms.mobile,wa.general
>> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:32 PM
>> Subject: best carrier for mobile phone service in perth railway tunnel
>>
>> If it's like Sydney then there's no underground cover! There is coverage
>> at
>> all of the stations but 200 metres out of the stations the coverage
>> ceases.
>>
>> I love watching the technoidiots that don't know this. The expressions on
>> their faces is priceless!
>>
>>

>
>I don't know for sure, but I would have thought they would have done the
>same as the Polly Pipe and relay the signals.


Trust me, the work that went into the comms in the polypipe was serious shite.
Had to have broadcast raio (AM & FM) plus GSM plus emergency services two-way
all supported AND TESTED.

Road tunnels are a different ball-game. You really have a requirement to
provide drivers with information feed and (at least) GSM as safety issues.
Ditto for emergency services. But ambos and cop vehicles don't travel down the
rail lines. Trains have good comms along THEIR lines.

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Old 12-09-2007, 02:12 AM
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ah, that tunnel.

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Old 12-09-2007, 02:50 PM
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On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:12:53 +0900, Jonathan Wilson <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote:

>ah, that tunnel.


Properly called Polly Pipe (except by wankers) as it is part of the Graham
Farmer Freeway. Graham Farmer's nick was Polly back in his East Perth/West
Perth and Geelong footie playing days.

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Old 12-09-2007, 07:52 PM
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budgie wrote...

> Road tunnels are a different ball-game. You really have a requirement to
> provide drivers with information feed and (at least) GSM as safety issues.
> Ditto for emergency services. But ambos and cop vehicles don't travel down the
> rail lines. Trains have good comms along THEIR lines.


I wonder what it is then, that they'd need to do to fix GSM or 3's 3G coverage
along the Melbourne metro lines? My son-in-law's phone forever cuts out on him.
He says that it's s'posed to swap from 3's 3G service over to 2G when coverage
is lost, but it never does it during a call. And there are significant black
spots along the line too, he was saying.

I also found this with NextG when I took the train to MEL to pick up a new car.
I found that there were quite a few spots along the way that the signal was
marginal at best, or non-existant in other spots. The line is, at the most, 3-6
km off the Princes Highway where there is usually good coverage all the way.


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Old 12-09-2007, 07:52 PM
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Krusty wrote...

> I love watching the technoidiots that don't know this. The expressions on
> their faces is priceless!


Uh huh...



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Old 12-09-2007, 07:52 PM
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Sandgroper wrote...

> I know for a fact that Optus is the only service that can be used in a lift
> and in lower basement levels because it is on a different frequency than
> Telstra.
> Not sure about Telstra's NextG .


It might be phone dependant but I've never had a mobile phone work in any of our
lifts at work. And I'm talking about GSM, CDMA and NextG. In the office building
Ditto for our UHF comms system (Motorola 2 way radios working off repeaters).

I get one bar on the antenna graphic and sometimes it dips to nothing. Both the
Samsung A501 and Palm Treo 750 (both NG) perform about the same in these
conditions.

I don't know how far away the mobile towers are. Presumably 8km line of sight to
at least one tower that I know of.

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Old 12-09-2007, 10:15 PM
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"Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
news:475a1e46$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Can anyone tell me which carrier is going to have the best service inside
> the new perth CBD rail tunnel? I know you can get service down there, I
> saw people talking on phones inside it the other day, I just want to know
> how the different carriers rate when it comes to actually getting service.
>
> Oh and the same thing for the Subiaco Train Station tunnels (I can never
> seem to hold service down there either)


FFS! Its not as if you are travelling through an inter country tunnel like
in Europe. Why people get paranoic with mobile phones has got me stuffed. I
grew up without even a house phone and somehow or other I (and millions
more) managed to survive. Get a life!!!



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