After my recent jaunt around NE Victoria when I got home I found that the
phone was displaying cell info from an area some distance from here.
I'm not sure why this is. Maybe someone here can explain it. But I suspect
that it (the cell in question) was the first one that the phone picked up
after it entered back into a NextG coverage area.
Why doesn't it update to show the current cell area?
> After my recent jaunt around NE Victoria when I got home I
> found that the phone was displaying cell info from an area
> some distance from here.
>
> I'm not sure why this is. Maybe someone here can explain it.
> But I suspect that it (the cell in question) was the first one
> that the phone picked up after it entered back into a NextG
> coverage area.
>
> Why doesn't it update to show the current cell area?
>
> The phone's a Samsung A501.
UMTS (3G) cells don't broadcast cell name (area info) data yet.
Any you see come from times when the phone's camped on a 2G
(plain old GSM) cell.
> UMTS (3G) cells don't broadcast cell name (area info) data yet.
> Any you see come from times when the phone's camped on a 2G
> (plain old GSM) cell.
That's interesting. GSM coverage where there is no NextG.
Not looking good for Telstra's claim about NextG being more widespread
than its GSM or any other telco's networks, for that matter.
In some areas there is Optus GSM coverage where there is no NextG
coverage. Then I'm seeing GSM coverage where you'd think that there'd be
NextG.
Trouble is, when I'm travelling the phone's tucked away in the pocket, so
I can't easily see what the coverage is doing and when I was in this area
whether or not the 3G symbol was active on the phone.
There was every chance that Next g coverage existed where your phone went to
2G, however the 2G signal may have been slightly stronger
To really maximise your Next G coverage, I would recommend that you change
the settings on your phone to stay on Next G only.
With your phone switching between frequencies you may get drop outs.
Although you technically are supposed to switch without a problem, sometimes
dropouts do occur.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> John Henderson wrote...
>
>> UMTS (3G) cells don't broadcast cell name (area info) data yet.
>> Any you see come from times when the phone's camped on a 2G
>> (plain old GSM) cell.
>
> That's interesting. GSM coverage where there is no NextG.
>
> Not looking good for Telstra's claim about NextG being more widespread
> than its GSM or any other telco's networks, for that matter.
>
> In some areas there is Optus GSM coverage where there is no NextG
> coverage. Then I'm seeing GSM coverage where you'd think that there'd be
> NextG.
>
> Trouble is, when I'm travelling the phone's tucked away in the pocket, so
> I can't easily see what the coverage is doing and when I was in this area
> whether or not the 3G symbol was active on the phone.
>
>
> There was every chance that Next g coverage existed where your phone went to
> 2G, however the 2G signal may have been slightly stronger
Why would it do that?
>
> To really maximise your Next G coverage, I would recommend that you change
> the settings on your phone to stay on Next G only.
The A501 has the following settings under "Network"
I just selected option 3. The antenna bar shows no signal and the 3G symbol
isn't being displayed.
And it's "searching" for a network connection.
I then selected UMTS. As I changed it a message "UMTS only works inside 3G
coverage areas" was displayed. Back at the main screen the signal is back to
full strength and the 3G symbol is present.
"3G" in this case refers to NextG as that is all there is as far as 3G services
go in this area.
I then changed it to GSM 900/1800. On the main screen I have full bars but there
is an "E" symbol next to it. I do not know what that means. I'll have to look
the manual up if I can find it.
And shortly after I changed it to GSM 900 the cell name changed to the one where
I live.
I changed it back to "auto" and 3G is once more displayed.
Next test was to remove the battery, wait a few seconds and put it back in and
turn it on.
The "cell name" is now back to Telstra. Which is what it normally displays.
So, what you say is correct, then. Maybe there wasn't a NextG signal at all when
I came back into a coverage area, so it briefly picked up the GSM cell, then as
I travelled further it connected back to a NextG cell but the GSM cell name
stayed.
I would have thought that if there were two signals, GSM and UMTS/3G/NextG that
it would've automatically picked NextG regardless of the strength. When I travel
around here and particularly at work, NextG can drop down to one bar. I can
compare my wife's GSM phone signal and often it may be getting a better signal.
But in those cases it isn't swapping around.
So, I'd be tipping that on the weekend that the phone didn't pick up a NG
signal, only a GSM one.
--
Women do come with instructions. Just ask them.
> Bubba wrote...
>
>> There was every chance that Next g coverage existed where
>> your phone went to 2G, however the 2G signal may have been
>> slightly stronger
>
> Why would it do that?
>>
>> To really maximise your Next G coverage, I would recommend
>> that you change the settings on your phone to stay on Next G
>> only.
>
> The A501 has the following settings under "Network"
>
> 1. Automatic (which it's default is)
> 2. GSM 900/1800
> 3. GSM 850/1900
> 4. UMTS
>
> I just selected option 3. The antenna bar shows no signal and
> the 3G symbol isn't being displayed.
>
> And it's "searching" for a network connection.
>
> I then selected UMTS. As I changed it a message "UMTS only
> works inside 3G coverage areas" was displayed. Back at the
> main screen the signal is back to full strength and the 3G
> symbol is present.
>
> "3G" in this case refers to NextG as that is all there is as
> far as 3G services go in this area.
>
> I then changed it to GSM 900/1800. On the main screen I have
> full bars but there is an "E" symbol next to it. I do not know
> what that means. I'll have to look the manual up if I can find
> it.
>
> And shortly after I changed it to GSM 900 the cell name
> changed to the one where I live.
>
> I changed it back to "auto" and 3G is once more displayed.
>
> Next test was to remove the battery, wait a few seconds and
> put it back in and turn it on.
>
> The "cell name" is now back to Telstra. Which is what it
> normally displays.
>
> So, what you say is correct, then. Maybe there wasn't a NextG
> signal at all when I came back into a coverage area, so it
> briefly picked up the GSM cell, then as I travelled further it
> connected back to a NextG cell but the GSM cell name stayed.
>
> I would have thought that if there were two signals, GSM and
> UMTS/3G/NextG that it would've automatically picked NextG
> regardless of the strength. When I travel around here and
> particularly at work, NextG can drop down to one bar. I can
> compare my wife's GSM phone signal and often it may be getting
> a better signal. But in those cases it isn't swapping around.
>
> So, I'd be tipping that on the weekend that the phone didn't
> pick up a NG signal, only a GSM one.
That sounds reasonable. But did you have it set to "Automatic"
or "UMTS" back on the weekend?
Even if you had it set to "UMTS", it may still have decoded a 2G
cell broadcast message while it was scanning for a usable (or
better) 3G signal, and stored that as a result of a quirk in
the firmware. It's even possible that cell name came from a
non-Telstra GSM cell - I once had a GSM phone with a firmware
bug like that.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> I then changed it to GSM 900/1800. On the main screen I have full bars but
> there
> is an "E" symbol next to it. I do not know what that means. I'll have to
> look
> the manual up if I can find it.
> > So, I'd be tipping that on the weekend that the phone didn't
> > pick up a NG signal, only a GSM one.
>
> That sounds reasonable. But did you have it set to "Automatic"
> or "UMTS" back on the weekend?
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> John Henderson wrote...
>
>> UMTS (3G) cells don't broadcast cell name (area info) data yet.
>> Any you see come from times when the phone's camped on a 2G
>> (plain old GSM) cell.
>
> That's interesting. GSM coverage where there is no NextG.
No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas. In the same fashion
that CDMA didnt cover all GSM areas
> Not looking good for Telstra's claim about NextG being more widespread
> than its GSM or any other telco's networks, for that matter.
It looks fine. You could have been camped onto that 2G cell for 5 seconds
for all you know
> Trouble is, when I'm travelling the phone's tucked away in the pocket, so
> I can't easily see what the coverage is doing and when I was in this area
> whether or not the 3G symbol was active on the phone.
>> There was every chance that Next g coverage existed where your phone went
>> to
>> 2G, however the 2G signal may have been slightly stronger
>
> Why would it do that?
It doesnt. If there is any NextG it will stay on NextG
>> To really maximise your Next G coverage, I would recommend that you
>> change
>> the settings on your phone to stay on Next G only.
>
> The A501 has the following settings under "Network"
>
> 1. Automatic (which it's default is)
> 2. GSM 900/1800
> 3. GSM 850/1900
> 4. UMTS
>
> I just selected option 3. The antenna bar shows no signal and the 3G
> symbol
> isn't being displayed.
Because GSM in Aus is at 900 and 1800 mhz, not 850 and 1900. Option 3 is for
Seppo's
> I then changed it to GSM 900/1800. On the main screen I have full bars but
> there
> is an "E" symbol next to it. I do not know what that means. I'll have to
> look
For best results, set it to UMTS and Manual
However, change it to Automatic should you ever take it overseas
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Bubba wrote...
>
>> There was every chance that Next g coverage existed where your phone went
>> to
>> 2G, however the 2G signal may have been slightly stronger
>
> Why would it do that?
>>
>> To really maximise your Next G coverage, I would recommend that you
>> change
>> the settings on your phone to stay on Next G only.
>
> The A501 has the following settings under "Network"
>
> 1. Automatic (which it's default is)
> 2. GSM 900/1800
> 3. GSM 850/1900
> 4. UMTS
>
> I just selected option 3. The antenna bar shows no signal and the 3G
> symbol
> isn't being displayed.
>
> And it's "searching" for a network connection.
>
> I then selected UMTS. As I changed it a message "UMTS only works inside 3G
> coverage areas" was displayed. Back at the main screen the signal is back
> to
> full strength and the 3G symbol is present.
>
> "3G" in this case refers to NextG as that is all there is as far as 3G
> services
> go in this area.
>
> I then changed it to GSM 900/1800. On the main screen I have full bars but
> there
> is an "E" symbol next to it. I do not know what that means. I'll have to
> look
> the manual up if I can find it.
>
> And shortly after I changed it to GSM 900 the cell name changed to the one
> where
> I live.
>
> I changed it back to "auto" and 3G is once more displayed.
>
> Next test was to remove the battery, wait a few seconds and put it back in
> and
> turn it on.
>
> The "cell name" is now back to Telstra. Which is what it normally
> displays.
>
> So, what you say is correct, then. Maybe there wasn't a NextG signal at
> all when
> I came back into a coverage area, so it briefly picked up the GSM cell,
> then as
> I travelled further it connected back to a NextG cell but the GSM cell
> name
> stayed.
>
> I would have thought that if there were two signals, GSM and UMTS/3G/NextG
> that
> it would've automatically picked NextG regardless of the strength. When I
> travel
> around here and particularly at work, NextG can drop down to one bar. I
> can
> compare my wife's GSM phone signal and often it may be getting a better
> signal.
> But in those cases it isn't swapping around.
>
> So, I'd be tipping that on the weekend that the phone didn't pick up a NG
> signal, only a GSM one.
>
>
>
> --
> Women do come with instructions. Just ask them.
Also you are using a "Group A" handset, which is the worst for rural areas
when it comes to Next G
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
news:4sj724lapd1cef78qtn8vbj07ka2687cb6@yarwho.com ...
> Bubba wrote...
>
>> There was every chance that Next g coverage existed where your phone went
>> to
>> 2G, however the 2G signal may have been slightly stronger
>
> Why would it do that?
>>
>> To really maximise your Next G coverage, I would recommend that you
>> change
>> the settings on your phone to stay on Next G only.
>
> The A501 has the following settings under "Network"
>
> 1. Automatic (which it's default is)
> 2. GSM 900/1800
> 3. GSM 850/1900
> 4. UMTS
>
> I just selected option 3. The antenna bar shows no signal and the 3G
> symbol
> isn't being displayed.
>
> And it's "searching" for a network connection.
>
> I then selected UMTS. As I changed it a message "UMTS only works inside 3G
> coverage areas" was displayed. Back at the main screen the signal is back
> to
> full strength and the 3G symbol is present.
>
> "3G" in this case refers to NextG as that is all there is as far as 3G
> services
> go in this area.
>
> I then changed it to GSM 900/1800. On the main screen I have full bars but
> there
> is an "E" symbol next to it. I do not know what that means. I'll have to
> look
> the manual up if I can find it.
>
> And shortly after I changed it to GSM 900 the cell name changed to the one
> where
> I live.
>
> I changed it back to "auto" and 3G is once more displayed.
>
> Next test was to remove the battery, wait a few seconds and put it back in
> and
> turn it on.
>
> The "cell name" is now back to Telstra. Which is what it normally
> displays.
>
> So, what you say is correct, then. Maybe there wasn't a NextG signal at
> all when
> I came back into a coverage area, so it briefly picked up the GSM cell,
> then as
> I travelled further it connected back to a NextG cell but the GSM cell
> name
> stayed.
>
> I would have thought that if there were two signals, GSM and UMTS/3G/NextG
> that
> it would've automatically picked NextG regardless of the strength. When I
> travel
> around here and particularly at work, NextG can drop down to one bar. I
> can
> compare my wife's GSM phone signal and often it may be getting a better
> signal.
> But in those cases it isn't swapping around.
>
> So, I'd be tipping that on the weekend that the phone didn't pick up a NG
> signal, only a GSM one.
>
>
>
> --
> Women do come with instructions. Just ask them.
"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
> news:482282b3$0$31239$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> John Henderson wrote...
>>
>>> UMTS (3G) cells don't broadcast cell name (area info) data yet.
>>> Any you see come from times when the phone's camped on a 2G
>>> (plain old GSM) cell.
>>
>> That's interesting. GSM coverage where there is no NextG.
>
> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas.
On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:39:24 Michael may have written:
> It doesnt. If there is any NextG it will stay on NextG
Actually, I've found my 6120c will happily stay on 2100MHz/Three for
quite some time if that's the first signal it finds as I come out of a
black-spot (eg, tunnel). Found it still happy on 2100MHz/Three up to
twelve hours later.
On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:29:55 Bubba may have written:
> Also you are using a "Group A" handset, which is the worst for rural areas
> when it comes to Next G
Group A doesn't neccesarily mean "worse". It can also simply mean "can't
be fitted with an external antenna".
On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:37:48 Michael may have written:
> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas. In the same fashion
> that CDMA didnt cover all GSM areas
'fraid they did Michael. We've had this discussion previously in here
and I pasted a whole bunch of quotes from Telstra management saying it
would cover every square km that CDMA did. A couple of them were from
Senate Estimate Committee meetings. Are you accusing Telstra management
of lying to Parliament?
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:29:55 Bubba may have written:
>> Also you are using a "Group A" handset, which is the worst for rural
>> areas
>> when it comes to Next G
>
> Group A doesn't neccesarily mean "worse". It can also simply mean "can't
> be fitted with an external antenna".
>
> PD
>
> --
> Paul Day
On Sun, 11 May 2008 16:49:59 Bubba may have written:
> The it would be a "Group B"
Not if it can't take an external antenna it wouldn't nope. 6120c is the
classic example. Excellent reception, but isn't given a Blue Tick
because it has no external anetnna connector.
"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:gM8Vj.9070$ko5.3356@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:482282b3$0$31239$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> John Henderson wrote...
>>>
>>>> UMTS (3G) cells don't broadcast cell name (area info) data yet.
>>>> Any you see come from times when the phone's camped on a 2G
>>>> (plain old GSM) cell.
>>>
>>> That's interesting. GSM coverage where there is no NextG.
>>
>> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas.
>
> Lie.
Please post proof where anyone advised "if you are covered by CDMA, you will
always be covered by NextG"
Supply same artifact for CDMA over GSM, and GSM over AMPS
>
> --
> Kwyj.
>
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 May 2008 13:37:48 Michael may have written:
>> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas. In the same fashion
>> that CDMA didnt cover all GSM areas
>
> 'fraid they did Michael. We've had this discussion previously in here
> and I pasted a whole bunch of quotes from Telstra management saying it
> would cover every square km that CDMA did. A couple of them were from
> Senate Estimate Committee meetings. Are you accusing Telstra management
> of lying to Parliament?
You still havent supplied any quotes.
Saying "NextG will cover the same AMOUNT of area (or more)" does not state
"NextG will cover the exact same places, people and objects, as CDMA"
>
> PD
>
> --
> Paul Day
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Snapper <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote
>>>> John Henderson wrote...
>>>>> UMTS (3G) cells don't broadcast cell name (area info) data yet.
>>>>> Any you see come from times when the phone's camped on a 2G
>>>>> (plain old GSM) cell.
>>>> That's interesting. GSM coverage where there is no NextG.
>>> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas.
Yes Telstra did.
>> Lie.
> Please post proof where anyone advised "if you are covered by CDMA, you will always be covered by NextG"
Have a look at what Telstra said to the Senate, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> Supply same artifact for CDMA over GSM, and GSM over AMPS
He never said anything about those, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas. In the same fashion that CDMA didnt cover all GSM areas
>> 'fraid they did Michael. We've had this discussion previously in here
>> and I pasted a whole bunch of quotes from Telstra management saying it would cover every square km that CDMA did. A
>> couple of them were from Senate Estimate Committee meetings. Are you accusing Telstra management of lying to
>> Parliament?
> You still havent supplied any quotes.
That was done when it was discussed previously.
> Saying "NextG will cover the same AMOUNT of area (or more)" does not
> state "NextG will cover the exact same places, people and objects, as CDMA"
Pity about what telstra actually said to the Senate.
On Tue, 13 May 2008 07:53:23 Michael may have written:
> >> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas.
> >
> > Lie.
>
> Please post proof where anyone advised "if you are covered by CDMA, you will
> always be covered by NextG"
On Tue, 13 May 2008 07:54:17 Michael may have written:
> > 'fraid they did Michael. We've had this discussion previously in here
> > and I pasted a whole bunch of quotes from Telstra management saying it
> > would cover every square km that CDMA did. A couple of them were from
> > Senate Estimate Committee meetings. Are you accusing Telstra management
> > of lying to Parliament?
>
> You still havent supplied any quotes.
Sure did. Read your archives. Not my fault if you choose to put your
hands over your ears, shut your eyes tight and sing loudly.
> Saying "NextG will cover the same AMOUNT of area (or more)" does not state
> "NextG will cover the exact same places, people and objects, as CDMA"
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>
> "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
> news:KLSdnYtQYpQCrLjVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@westnet.com. au...
>>
>> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:gM8Vj.9070$ko5.3356@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:482282b3$0$31239$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> John Henderson wrote...
>>>>
>>>>> UMTS (3G) cells don't broadcast cell name (area info) data yet.
>>>>> Any you see come from times when the phone's camped on a 2G
>>>>> (plain old GSM) cell.
>>>>
>>>> That's interesting. GSM coverage where there is no NextG.
>>>
>>> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas.
>>
>> Lie.
>
> Please post proof where anyone advised "if you are covered by CDMA, you
> will always be covered by NextG"
From the Telstra marketing brochure:
"to guarantee that consumers have the same or better coverage than CDMA"
If I was covered by CDMA prior to the switch off but aren't covered by NextG
now, it's clearly not "the same" coverage, is it fuckwit.
>
> Supply same artifact for CDMA over GSM, and GSM over AMPS
How about you jam a pineapple up your arse - spikey end first.
On Tue, 13 May 2008 21:17:50 Kwyjibo may have written:
> > Please post proof where anyone advised "if you are covered by CDMA, you
> > will always be covered by NextG"
>
> From the Telstra marketing brochure:
> "to guarantee that consumers have the same or better coverage than CDMA"
Michael argues that Telstra's use of the word "same" merely means "The
same _number_ of square km coverred (but not neccesarily in the same
_location_ as those coverred by CDMA.)"
However, numerous other sources (including Telstra answering to a couple
of Senate Estimates Committee hearings) clarify it as what every sane
person assumes the words "same" and "equivalent" to mean when talking
about a mobile phone service. I've pasted some quotes from Telstra in
here a couple of times now but Michael chooses to ignore them.
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 May 2008 21:17:50 Kwyjibo may have written:
>> > Please post proof where anyone advised "if you are covered by CDMA, you
>> > will always be covered by NextG"
>>
>> From the Telstra marketing brochure:
>> "to guarantee that consumers have the same or better coverage than CDMA"
>
> Michael argues that Telstra's use of the word "same" merely means "The
> same _number_ of square km coverred (but not neccesarily in the same
> _location_ as those coverred by CDMA.)"
Yeah, and they even lied about that too.
They based their square km estimate on their claim that some cells have a
range of 200km, but failed to mention that they measured that range by using
a NextG handset in an aeroplane that was associated with a NextG tower on
top of a mountain.
Dirty misleading fuckers.
>
> However, numerous other sources (including Telstra answering to a couple
> of Senate Estimates Committee hearings) clarify it as what every sane
> person assumes the words "same" and "equivalent" to mean when talking
> about a mobile phone service. I've pasted some quotes from Telstra in
> here a couple of times now but Michael chooses to ignore them.
Which just goes to show that Mikey doesn't have a clue.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>>>> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas. In the same
>>>> fashion that CDMA didnt cover all GSM areas
>
>>> 'fraid they did Michael. We've had this discussion previously in here
>>> and I pasted a whole bunch of quotes from Telstra management saying it
>>> would cover every square km that CDMA did. A couple of them were from
>>> Senate Estimate Committee meetings. Are you accusing Telstra management
>>> of lying to Parliament?
>
>> You still havent supplied any quotes.
>
> That was done when it was discussed previously.
We are not currently discussing it previously, we are discussing it now.
And given you cant supply any quotes, just proves that it was never stated
at all
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
news:1210633874.919421@colossus.enigma.id.au...
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 07:53:23 Michael may have written:
>> >> No one said that NextG covered all CDMA or GSM areas.
>> >
>> > Lie.
>>
>> Please post proof where anyone advised "if you are covered by CDMA, you
>> will
>> always be covered by NextG"
>
> Proof already supplied. You choose to ignore it.
Haha. You loser. You cant even supply a single fact for something that you
claim has been stated by Telstra, time and time again
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