Channel 2 Australian ABC TV:4 Corners: How Telstra staff killed themselves at Telstra call center Melbourne

Mr.T <MrT@home> wrote:
> "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote in message
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>> I started with them in the late 80s and there were only a handful of
>> AXE exchanges in use - And they were basically trial/experimental
>> systems. Even the major exchanges (Exhibition, Russel, Lonsdale in
>> Melb for example) were still crossbar.
>
> Sure, the major exchanges were not replaced first, but there were
> definitely a lot more than trials in the 9 years between the Endevour
> Hills trial, and the start of the 90's.
>
>>> The fact is that network reliability improved, and customer costs
>>> continually reduced in the 70 years prior to privatisation, as much
>>> or more than they have since.
>>
>> Not even close.
>> Look at the ADSL rollout. There's no way Telecom/PMG would or could
>> have rolled out such technology in such a short period of time.
>
> In your opinion, as someone with no prior experience before the "late
> 80's". However many people are still waiting for the ADSL rollout, so
> how long it will take is unknown. Like the Foxtel optical cable
> rollout, they do a bit then stop.

> There are major suburban areas still using pair gain systems after all,

Nope, and rims can do adsl now anyway.

> and let's not start on broadband in many country towns.

Bet you cant list even a single one with no adsl.

> However many people are still waiting for the ADSL rollout, so how long it

No, they aren't.

How many exchanges in Aus DONT have ADSL1 now? There cant be that many.

In any case, what % of the population do the enabled exchanges cover? Gotta
be at least 80%

> There are major suburban areas still using pair gain systems after all,
> and

None of which is relevant to ENABLING AN EXCHANGE for ADSL

"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > There are major suburban areas still using pair gain systems after all,
> > and

> None of which is relevant to ENABLING AN EXCHANGE for ADSL

And which of course is totally irrelevant to those on pair gain systems that
are told they cannot have ADSL!
The customer coudn't give a rat's what the exchage is, if he can't get what
he want's anyway.

MrT.

"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > However many people are still waiting for the ADSL rollout, so how long
it
> No, they aren't.
> How many exchanges in Aus DONT have ADSL1 now? There cant be that many.

It's CUSTOMER lines that are important, NOT the number of exchanges.

> In any case, what % of the population do the enabled exchanges cover?
Gotta
> be at least 80%

Does pulling figures out of your arse help your argument?

MrT.

"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
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> "Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> > However many people are still waiting for the ADSL rollout, so how long
> it
>> No, they aren't.
>> How many exchanges in Aus DONT have ADSL1 now? There cant be that many.
>
> It's CUSTOMER lines that are important, NOT the number of exchanges.

Wrong.

Root cause analysis - if your exchange is not adsl enabled, then you cannot
have ADSL at all

ADSL enabled exchanges are the most important goal

"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
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> "Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> > However many people are still waiting for the ADSL rollout, so how long
> it
>> No, they aren't.
>> How many exchanges in Aus DONT have ADSL1 now? There cant be that many.
>
> It's CUSTOMER lines that are important, NOT the number of exchanges.
>
>> In any case, what % of the population do the enabled exchanges cover?
> Gotta
>> be at least 80%
>
> Does pulling figures out of your arse help your argument?

If you dont know the figures then you can go fuck yourself
>
> MrT.
>
>

"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If you dont know the figures then you can go fuck yourself

Is that how you came by yours then?

MrT.

"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >> > However many people are still waiting for the ADSL rollout, so how
long
> > it
> >> No, they aren't.
> >> How many exchanges in Aus DONT have ADSL1 now? There cant be that many.
> >
> > It's CUSTOMER lines that are important, NOT the number of exchanges.
>
> Wrong.
>
> Root cause analysis - if your exchange is not adsl enabled, then you
cannot
> have ADSL at all


No shit Sherlock!!!

Even IF your exchange is DSL enabled doesn't guarantee YOU can get it!

MrT.

"Mr.T" <MrT@home> wrote in message
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> "Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> >> > However many people are still waiting for the ADSL rollout, so how
> long
>> > it
>> >> No, they aren't.
>> >> How many exchanges in Aus DONT have ADSL1 now? There cant be that
>> >> many.
>> >
>> > It's CUSTOMER lines that are important, NOT the number of exchanges.
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>> Root cause analysis - if your exchange is not adsl enabled, then you
> cannot
>> have ADSL at all
>
>
> No shit Sherlock!!!
>
> Even IF your exchange is DSL enabled doesn't guarantee YOU can get it!

Exactly, which indicates covering the country with ADSL-enabled exchanges is
MORE important than any other type of activity to provide broadband
>
> MrT.
>
>

"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >> Root cause analysis - if your exchange is not adsl enabled, then you
> > cannot have ADSL at all
> >
> > No shit Sherlock!!!
> >
> > Even IF your exchange is DSL enabled doesn't guarantee YOU can get it!
>
> Exactly, which indicates covering the country with ADSL-enabled exchanges
is
> MORE important than any other type of activity to provide broadband


NO!!!!!!
It means *BOTH* are required for a person to get ADSL. If *EITHER* is
missing, then the other is irrelevant to them.

MrT.