A big advantage of the CDMA network was that it had an inbuilt Time and Date
function, which automatically adjusted for Daylight Saving, Leap Years, and
even location..
For years I had a old CDMA phone sitting on my desk, just to get this
"always correct" time, day of week, month, and date function.
On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:27:06 +1000, Graeme Zimmer wrote:
> I haven't had a play with a 3G handset yet......
>
> A big advantage of the CDMA network was that it had an inbuilt Time and
> Date function, which automatically adjusted for Daylight Saving, Leap
> Years, and even location..
>
> For years I had a old CDMA phone sitting on my desk, just to get this
> "always correct" time, day of week, month, and date function.
>
> Does the 3G network do the same thing?
GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible reason,
the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible reason,
> the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
It's been on for a few years now.
Telstra turned it on when Sol arrived and discovered that it wasn't
on. It was pretty much his first order.
Some handsets implement their own Daylight Saving function, and have
it wrong now that those states who have daylight saving (except WA)
have moved the start / finish dates. The handsets attempt to be smart,
and make a mess of it.
Also, the time on the handset doesn't change at daylight saving change
until you power down / power up.
"Graeme Zimmer" <gzimmer@wideband.net.au> wrote in message
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>I haven't had a play with a 3G handset yet......
>
> A big advantage of the CDMA network was that it had an inbuilt Time and
> Date function, which automatically adjusted for Daylight Saving, Leap
> Years, and even location..
>
> For years I had a old CDMA phone sitting on my desk, just to get this
> "always correct" time, day of week, month, and date function.
>
> Does the 3G network do the same thing?
"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:27:06 +1000, Graeme Zimmer wrote:
>
>> I haven't had a play with a 3G handset yet......
>>
>> A big advantage of the CDMA network was that it had an inbuilt Time and
>> Date function, which automatically adjusted for Daylight Saving, Leap
>> Years, and even location..
>>
>> For years I had a old CDMA phone sitting on my desk, just to get this
>> "always correct" time, day of week, month, and date function.
>>
>> Does the 3G network do the same thing?
>
> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible reason,
> the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
Dunno which network you use. Telstra does it for GSM and 3G
<cornedbeef007-groups@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible reason,
>> the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
>
> It's been on for a few years now.
>
> Telstra turned it on when Sol arrived and discovered that it wasn't
> on. It was pretty much his first order.
Load of shite. As if he would be "concerned" with something as minor as that
On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:24:01 -0700, cornedbeef007-groups wrote:
> On May 15, 7:41Â*am, "Michael" <mich...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Load of shite. As if he would be "concerned" with something as minor as
>> that
>
> You'd better believe it'cos that's how it was.
>
> Trivial thing to easily "fix" so Sol could "make his mark" when he
> arrived.
More likely he just wanted it to work on *his* phone, so they had to turn
it on on the whole network.
On Wed, 14 May 2008 21:41:23 +0000, Michael wrote:
> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
> news:sAuWj.1516$U61.1409@newsfe12.ams2...
>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 12:27:06 +1000, Graeme Zimmer wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't had a play with a 3G handset yet......
>>>
>>> A big advantage of the CDMA network was that it had an inbuilt Time
>>> and Date function, which automatically adjusted for Daylight Saving,
>>> Leap Years, and even location..
>>>
>>> For years I had a old CDMA phone sitting on my desk, just to get this
>>> "always correct" time, day of week, month, and date function.
>>>
>>> Does the 3G network do the same thing?
>>
>> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible reason,
>> the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
>
> Dunno which network you use. Telstra does it for GSM and 3G
"Graeme Zimmer" <gzimmer@wideband.net.au> wrote in message
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> Well, I'm afraid I still don't have an answer...
>
> I'll re-phrase the question.
>
> Is there any GSM or 3G handset which shows the correct time and date
> without user intervention (e.g. setting initial time and date, etc)?
>>> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible reason,
>>> the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
>>
>> Dunno which network you use. Telstra does it for GSM and 3G
>
> Well they didn't used to do it on GSM.
On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:37:04 +0000, Michael wrote:
>>>> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible
>>>> reason, the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
>>>
>>> Dunno which network you use. Telstra does it for GSM and 3G
>>
>> Well they didn't used to do it on GSM.
>
> Worked fine for me.
>>>>> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible
>>>>> reason, the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
>>>>
>>>> Dunno which network you use. Telstra does it for GSM and 3G
>>>
>>> Well they didn't used to do it on GSM.
>>
>> Worked fine for me.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/aus.c...5dfb24f3fff99a
>
> Apr 17 2003, 3:06 am
Lets see, I switched to NextG from Telstra GSM in late 2007/early 2008.
That was 2003.
>> Does the Telstra GSM network support this function at all?
>
> No
> Anyone with half-a-brain can set a clock
On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:09:12 +0000, Michael wrote:
>>>>>> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible
>>>>>> reason, the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno which network you use. Telstra does it for GSM and 3G
>>>>
>>>> Well they didn't used to do it on GSM.
>>>
>>> Worked fine for me.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/aus.c...5dfb24f3fff99a
>>
>> Apr 17 2003, 3:06 am
>
> Lets see, I switched to NextG from Telstra GSM in late 2007/early 2008.
>
> That was 2003.
And???
>>> Does the Telstra GSM network support this function at all?
>>
>> No
>> Anyone with half-a-brain can set a clock
>
> I'm flattered I'm in your fan base :-)
Depends on the flavor of 3G and the phone, I s'pose. Certainly my Samsung A501
on NextG doesn't update for DST changes. I had to change it back manually back
in the first weekend of April...
"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible
>>>>>> reason, the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno which network you use. Telstra does it for GSM and 3G
>>>>
>>>> Well they didn't used to do it on GSM.
>>>
>>> Worked fine for me.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/aus.c...5dfb24f3fff99a
>>
>> Apr 17 2003, 3:06 am
>
> Lets see, I switched to NextG from Telstra GSM in late 2007/early 2008.
>
> That was 2003.
And?
You said it worked fine for you on GSM. The post provided clearly shows that
it didn't. i.e. You're full of shit.
On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:20:30 +0000, Will Kemp wrote:
> On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:24:01 -0700, cornedbeef007-groups wrote:
>
>> On May 15, 7:41Â*am, "Michael" <mich...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Load of shite. As if he would be "concerned" with something as minor
>>> as that
>>
>> You'd better believe it'cos that's how it was.
>>
>> Trivial thing to easily "fix" so Sol could "make his mark" when he
>> arrived.
>
> More likely he just wanted it to work on *his* phone, so they had to
> turn it on on the whole network.
Or even more likely, he noticed on an interstate trip that his
work-supplied handset didn't update automatically, thought "that's
ridiculous", asked a subordinate why it wasn't happening, wasn't satisfied
with the answer, and ordered that it be turned on.
"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:09:12 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
>>>>>>> GSM (and 3G) does the same thing. But for some incomprehensible
>>>>>>> reason, the Australian carriers chose not to switch it on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dunno which network you use. Telstra does it for GSM and 3G
>>>>>
>>>>> Well they didn't used to do it on GSM.
>>>>
>>>> Worked fine for me.
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/aus.c...5dfb24f3fff99a
>>>
>>> Apr 17 2003, 3:06 am
>>
>> Lets see, I switched to NextG from Telstra GSM in late 2007/early 2008.
>>
>> That was 2003.
>
> And???
Clearly the service was brought in some time after April 17, 2003, and
before late 2007, dick.
Do we have to spell every little detail out for you?
>> I'm flattered I'm in your fan base :-)
>
> Huh???
You took the time to find an article on GoogleGroups.
You mnust *care* that much.
>> Lets see, I switched to NextG from Telstra GSM in late 2007/early 2008.
>>
>> That was 2003.
>
> And?
> You said it worked fine for you on GSM. The post provided clearly shows
> that it didn't. i.e. You're full of shit.
So if I said, "SMS works fine on GSM", I'd be "full of shit" because it
didn't work on launch in 1993?
"Horry" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:20:30 +0000, Will Kemp wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:24:01 -0700, cornedbeef007-groups wrote:
>>
>>> On May 15, 7:41 am, "Michael" <mich...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Load of shite. As if he would be "concerned" with something as minor
>>>> as that
>>>
>>> You'd better believe it'cos that's how it was.
>>>
>>> Trivial thing to easily "fix" so Sol could "make his mark" when he
>>> arrived.
>>
>> More likely he just wanted it to work on *his* phone, so they had to
>> turn it on on the whole network.
>
> Or even more likely, he noticed on an interstate trip that his
> work-supplied handset didn't update automatically, thought "that's
> ridiculous", asked a subordinate why it wasn't happening, wasn't satisfied
> with the answer, and ordered that it be turned on.
Michael wrote:
>>> Lets see, I switched to NextG from Telstra GSM in late 2007/early 2008.
>>>
>>> That was 2003.
>> And?
>> You said it worked fine for you on GSM. The post provided clearly shows
>> that it didn't. i.e. You're full of shit.
>
> So if I said, "SMS works fine on GSM", I'd be "full of shit" because it
> didn't work on launch in 1993?
It wouldn't make any difference what you *said*, you'd still be full of
shit.
The point is that i said it didn't used to work and you said it did. In
03 you said it didn't though - that sounds like it didn't used to work
to me! Do try and keep up - it's your argument you're struggling to
follow, after all.
On Wed, 21 May 2008 21:59:36 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
> "Horry" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g0qk7r$r1b$1@news.datemas.de...
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:20:30 +0000, Will Kemp wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 22:24:01 -0700, cornedbeef007-groups wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 15, 7:41 am, "Michael" <mich...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Load of shite. As if he would be "concerned" with something as minor
>>>>> as that
>>>>
>>>> You'd better believe it'cos that's how it was.
>>>>
>>>> Trivial thing to easily "fix" so Sol could "make his mark" when he
>>>> arrived.
>>>
>>> More likely he just wanted it to work on *his* phone, so they had to
>>> turn it on on the whole network.
>>
>> Or even more likely, he noticed on an interstate trip that his
>> work-supplied handset didn't update automatically, thought "that's
>> ridiculous", asked a subordinate why it wasn't happening, wasn't satisfied
>> with the answer, and ordered that it be turned on.
>
> Urban legend
"Will Kemp" <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote:
>>>> Lets see, I switched to NextG from Telstra GSM in late 2007/early 2008.
>>>>
>>>> That was 2003.
>>> And?
>>> You said it worked fine for you on GSM. The post provided clearly shows
>>> that it didn't. i.e. You're full of shit.
>>
>> So if I said, "SMS works fine on GSM", I'd be "full of shit" because it
>> didn't work on launch in 1993?
>
> It wouldn't make any difference what you *said*, you'd still be full of
> shit.
>
> The point is that i said it didn't used to work and you said it did. In
Which it did, its worked on GSM for some years.
The best "data" you have, said it didnt work 5 years ago.
The worlds moved on since 5 years ago, love. Do try and keep up
Michael wrote:
> "Will Kemp" <will@xxxx.swaggie.net> wrote in message
> newsn9Zj.64603$JE4.41501@newsfe11.ams2...
>> Michael wrote:
>>>>> Lets see, I switched to NextG from Telstra GSM in late 2007/early 2008.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was 2003.
>>>> And?
>>>> You said it worked fine for you on GSM. The post provided clearly shows
>>>> that it didn't. i.e. You're full of shit.
>>> So if I said, "SMS works fine on GSM", I'd be "full of shit" because it
>>> didn't work on launch in 1993?
>> It wouldn't make any difference what you *said*, you'd still be full of
>> shit.
>>
>> The point is that i said it didn't used to work and you said it did. In
>
> Which it did, its worked on GSM for some years.
>
> The best "data" you have, said it didnt work 5 years ago.
>
> The worlds moved on since 5 years ago, love. Do try and keep up