Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5e82u0F37ric6U1@mid.individual.net...
>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> will_s <willsjunkremove@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon <internetexplorer14@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey lay off the French - they are beautiful people -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in tune with an ethical world than is the US who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at the rest of the world as their oyster - something to be exploited for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefit of the US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fuck the rest of the world.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it wasnt for the yanks, you'd have slitty eyes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get yourself a decent history book.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, we all know the poms came rushing down to save our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bacon yet again rule Britannia
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of us know that the Japanese had no intention of
>>>>>>>>>>>> invading the Australian mainland.........
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Easy to claim.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> It sure is - Especially when there is absolutely no
>>>>>>>>>> documentary evidence to suggest that Japan planned any
>>>>>>>>>> invasion of mainland Australia and the senior Japanese said
>>>>>>>>>> there were no such plans at the end of the war.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what they would have done about Australia if the
>>>>>>>>> yanks had decided after Pearl Harbor that they didnt give a
>>>>>>>>> damn about that attack and that they didnt care enough about
>>>>>>>>> the Philipinnes etc to try to get it back after they had been
>>>>>>>>> booted out of there by the japs.
>>
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your claim about *Jon* having slitty eyes if it
>>>>>>>> wasn't for the yanks.
>>
>>>>>>> Australia would have been invaded by the Japs if they hadn't
>>>>>>> been stopped. Live with it!
>>
>>>>>> Funny how every historian on the face of the planet disagrees
>>>>>> with you.
>>
>>>>> I suspect you're just trolling with a statement like that.
>>
>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ia/index2.html
>>
>>>> Yep, he clearly is,
>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ustinvade.html
>>
>>> Whether there were specific or detailed invasion plans at that
>>> time, or intent, desire, or just the idea, is irrelevant, since if
>>> the Axis powers had not been defeated,
>>
>> And that wouldnt have happened without the yanks.
>>
>>> there would have been a socialist empire in Europe,
>>
>> Nope, a Nazi empire instead.
>>
>>> and a Japanese empire extending right thru the pacific
>>> region, with Aus, NZ, and the USA isolated.
>>
>>> Once the Japanese had consolidated their position, whether we would
>>> have been defeated militarily or forced to capitulate under threat
>>> of overwhelming military might, is a moot point, as the result
>>> would have been the same. We would have been subjugated, and that
>>> gentleman you originally replied to would have had, as you said,
>>> slanty eyes- or more likely possibly never have been born.
>>
>> His mum/grandmum would have been a Jap
>> 'comfort' woman and so he would have slitty eyes.
>
> Not sure how you thinks genetics work, but if he didn't get half his
> genes from his current father *he* wouldn't exist. Someone else would.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5e82u0F37ric6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will_s <willsjunkremove@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon <internetexplorer14@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey lay off the French - they are beautiful people -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in tune with an ethical world than is the US who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at the rest of the world as their oyster - something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be exploited for the benefit of the US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fuck the rest of the world.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it wasnt for the yanks, you'd have slitty eyes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get yourself a decent history book.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, we all know the poms came rushing down to save our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bacon yet again rule Britannia
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of us know that the Japanese had no intention of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invading the Australian mainland.........
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy to claim.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It sure is - Especially when there is absolutely no
>>>>>>>>>>> documentary evidence to suggest that Japan planned any
>>>>>>>>>>> invasion of mainland Australia and the senior Japanese said
>>>>>>>>>>> there were no such plans at the end of the war.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what they would have done about Australia if the
>>>>>>>>>> yanks had decided after Pearl Harbor that they didnt give a
>>>>>>>>>> damn about that attack and that they didnt care enough about
>>>>>>>>>> the Philipinnes etc to try to get it back after they had been
>>>>>>>>>> booted out of there by the japs.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your claim about *Jon* having slitty eyes if it
>>>>>>>>> wasn't for the yanks.
>>>
>>>>>>>> Australia would have been invaded by the Japs if they hadn't
>>>>>>>> been stopped. Live with it!
>>>
>>>>>>> Funny how every historian on the face of the planet disagrees
>>>>>>> with you.
>>>
>>>>>> I suspect you're just trolling with a statement like that.
>>>
>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ia/index2.html
>>>
>>>>> Yep, he clearly is,
>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ustinvade.html
>>>
>>>> Whether there were specific or detailed invasion plans at that
>>>> time, or intent, desire, or just the idea, is irrelevant, since if
>>>> the Axis powers had not been defeated,
>>>
>>> And that wouldnt have happened without the yanks.
>>>
>>>> there would have been a socialist empire in Europe,
>>>
>>> Nope, a Nazi empire instead.
>>>
>>>> and a Japanese empire extending right thru the pacific
>>>> region, with Aus, NZ, and the USA isolated.
>>>
>>>> Once the Japanese had consolidated their position, whether we would
>>>> have been defeated militarily or forced to capitulate under threat
>>>> of overwhelming military might, is a moot point, as the result
>>>> would have been the same. We would have been subjugated, and that
>>>> gentleman you originally replied to would have had, as you said,
>>>> slanty eyes- or more likely possibly never have been born.
>>>
>>> His mum/grandmum would have been a Jap
>>> 'comfort' woman and so he would have slitty eyes.
>>
>> Not sure how you thinks genetics work, but if he didn't get half his
>> genes from his current father *he* wouldn't exist. Someone else would.
>
> He'd have a different father, fuckwit child.
If his particular mix of genes didn't exist HE wouldn't exist.
Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5e8r7hF37l99jU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5e82u0F37ric6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will_s <willsjunkremove@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon <internetexplorer14@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey lay off the French - they are beautiful people -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in tune with an ethical world than is the US who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at the rest of the world as their oyster -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to be exploited for the benefit of the US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fuck the rest of the world.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it wasnt for the yanks, you'd have slitty eyes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get yourself a decent history book.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, we all know the poms came rushing down to save our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bacon yet again rule Britannia
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of us know that the Japanese had no intention of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invading the Australian mainland.........
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy to claim.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It sure is - Especially when there is absolutely no
>>>>>>>>>>>> documentary evidence to suggest that Japan planned any
>>>>>>>>>>>> invasion of mainland Australia and the senior Japanese said
>>>>>>>>>>>> there were no such plans at the end of the war.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what they would have done about Australia if
>>>>>>>>>>> the yanks had decided after Pearl Harbor that they didnt
>>>>>>>>>>> give a damn about that attack and that they didnt care
>>>>>>>>>>> enough about the Philipinnes etc to try to get it back
>>>>>>>>>>> after they had been booted out of there by the japs.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your claim about *Jon* having slitty eyes if it
>>>>>>>>>> wasn't for the yanks.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Australia would have been invaded by the Japs if they hadn't
>>>>>>>>> been stopped. Live with it!
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Funny how every historian on the face of the planet disagrees
>>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I suspect you're just trolling with a statement like that.
>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ia/index2.html
>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, he clearly is,
>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ustinvade.html
>>>>
>>>>> Whether there were specific or detailed invasion plans at that
>>>>> time, or intent, desire, or just the idea, is irrelevant, since if
>>>>> the Axis powers had not been defeated,
>>>>
>>>> And that wouldnt have happened without the yanks.
>>>>
>>>>> there would have been a socialist empire in Europe,
>>>>
>>>> Nope, a Nazi empire instead.
>>>>
>>>>> and a Japanese empire extending right thru the pacific
>>>>> region, with Aus, NZ, and the USA isolated.
>>>>
>>>>> Once the Japanese had consolidated their position, whether we
>>>>> would have been defeated militarily or forced to capitulate under
>>>>> threat of overwhelming military might, is a moot point, as the
>>>>> result would have been the same. We would have been subjugated,
>>>>> and that gentleman you originally replied to would have had, as
>>>>> you said, slanty eyes- or more likely possibly never have been
>>>>> born.
>>>>
>>>> His mum/grandmum would have been a Jap
>>>> 'comfort' woman and so he would have slitty eyes.
>>>
>>> Not sure how you thinks genetics work, but if he didn't get half his
>>> genes from his current father *he* wouldn't exist. Someone else
>>> would.
>>
>> He'd have a different father, fuckwit child.
>
> If his particular mix of genes didn't exist HE wouldn't exist.
"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:467cedfb$0$22450$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will_s <willsjunkremove@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon <internetexplorer14@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey lay off the French - they are beautiful people -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in tune with an ethical world than is the US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who look at the rest of the world as their oyster -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to be exploited for the benefit of the US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fuck the rest of the world.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it wasnt for the yanks, you'd have slitty eyes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get yourself a decent history book.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, we all know the poms came rushing down to save our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bacon yet again rule
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Britannia
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of us know that the Japanese had no intention of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invading the Australian mainland.........
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy to claim.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sure is - Especially when there is absolutely no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentary evidence to suggest that Japan planned any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invasion of mainland Australia and the senior Japanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said there were no such plans at the end of the war.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what they would have done about Australia if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the yanks had decided after Pearl Harbor that they didnt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give a damn about that attack and that they didnt care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough about the Philipinnes etc to try to get it back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after they had been booted out of there by the japs.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your claim about *Jon* having slitty eyes if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it wasn't for the yanks.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia would have been invaded by the Japs if they hadn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> been stopped. Live with it!
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how every historian on the face of the planet disagrees
>>>>>>>>>>> with you.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I suspect you're just trolling with a statement like that.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope. But I am waiting for someone to prove that Australia WAS
>>>>>>>>> under threat of invasion, which is what some of you fuckwits are
>>>>>>>>> claiming....
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ia/index2.html
>>
>>>>>>>>> ROFL.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me make this very clear.
>>>>>>>>> 1. Pointing me to some personal web page of a bigpond user is
>>>>>>>>> not something I would consider proof that an invasion was planned
>>>>>>>>> 2. The web site you
>>>>>>>>> pointed me to doesn't even make such a claim
>>
>>>>>>>> Another bare faced lie
>>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ustinvade.html
>>
>>>>>>> "pressuring Australia into surrender to Japan were more important
>>>>>>> objectives than the limited invasion of Australia's northern coast
>>>>>>> that the Navy had earlier proposed. "
>>
>>>>>> Even you admit that the Navy was in favor of an invasion.
>>
>>>>> And??
>>
>>>> So your original 'no intention' was a complete pack of lies,
>>
>>> Not at all.
>>
>> Corse it was. The Jap Navy plan to invade Aust blows your
>> stupid pig ignorant claim completely out of the fucking water.
>
> Nope.
> One section of the Japanese military never decided a war strategy in
> isolation.
>
>>>>> Since when did the Navy determine government policy?
>>
>>>> Since Pearl Harbor, fuckwit.
>>
>>> So now you are saying that Pearl Harbour was done by the Navy with no
>>> orders from their government
>>> or Emperor?
>>
>> Nope, that the Jap Navy decided that that was the way to go and the
>> opposition by the Jap Army was completely irrelevant and it happened
>> anyway.
>
> Under the orders of the Emperor and rest of their government, fuckwit.
>
>
>>>>>> And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that while
>>>>>> the Jap Army didnt support Pearl Harbor, it happened anyway.
>>
>>>>> Pearl Harbour was *invaded*?? Fuck. When did that happen?
>>
>>>> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
>>
>>> You made the pig ignorant claim.
>>
>> I never ever made THAT claim, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit
>> artist.
>>
>
> Liar.
>
> While in a discussion about an imvasion by Japn, you blurted out this
> little gem
> "And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that while the Jap
> Army didnt support Pearl Harbor, it happened anyway."
>
> You fucking idiot. You can't even remember the illogical shit that comes
> from your own keyboard. Understandable though. I'm sure that anyone would
> want to forget saying something as stupid as that.
>
>> I JUST rubbed your stupid pig ignorant nose in the FACT that
>> it was the Jap Navy that got Japan to fuck over Pearl Harbor,
>
> And their proposal for invading Australia was REJECTED - That means we
> were never under threat of invasion you fucking imbecile.
>
>> regardless of the Jap Army opposition on that.
>
> Which has fuck all to do with us being an invasion target.
>
>> So your stupid pig ignorant claim that 'the Japanese'
>> never intended to invade Australia is just plain wrong.
>>
>>>>> > And that cite above blows a fucking great hole in your
>>>>>> bare faced lie about EVERY HISTORIAN anyway.
>>
>>>>> ROFL.
>>>>> That web site is provided by the "Battle for Australia Historical
>>>>> (hysterical) Society". Let's see what their rules for member ship
>>>>> are......
>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...this_site.html
>>>>> "The only qualifications for membership are access to the internet
>>>>> and a strong interest in the Pacific War and its historical setting."
>>
>>>> Irrelevant to who actually wrote that particular bit, fuckwit.
>>
>>> It's very relevant when you are using that particular site in a
>>> pathetic attempt to prove we were under threat of invasion.
>>
>> It wasnt even cited for that, it was cited to blow your stupid pig
>> ignorant
>> claim about ANY HISTORIAN, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit
>> artist.
>
> And that web site doesn't disprove that either. Care to try again,
> fuckwit?
>
>>>>> Hmmm. You don't appear to require any official recognition as, or
>>>>> even experience as a historian to gain membership.
>>
>>>> Irrelevant to who actually wrote that particular bit, fuckwit.
>>
>>> It's very relevant when you are using that particular site in a
>>> pathetic attempt to prove we were under threat of invasion.
>>
>> It wasnt even cited for that, it was cited to blow your stupid pig
>> ignorant
>> claim about ANY HISTORIAN, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit
>> artist.
>>
>
> And that web site doesn't disprove that either. Care to try again,
> fuckwit?
>
>>>>> Now let's see what the main author (James Bowen) has done in the
>>>>> past.....
>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...shedWorks.html
>>
>>>>> Hmmm. Lots of stuff on crimal justice and the legal system. Fuck
>>>>> all on anything to do with Pacific War history though.
>>
>>>> Irrelevant to where he got that from, fuckwit.
>>
>>> It's very relevant when you are using that particular site in a
>>> pathetic attempt to prove we were under threat of invasion.
>>
>> It wasnt even cited for that, it was cited to blow your stupid pig
>> ignorant
>> claim about ANY HISTORIAN, you pathetic excuse for a lying bullshit
>> artist.
>>
>
> And that web site doesn't disprove that either. Care to try again,
> fuckwit?
>
>
>>>>> If you want to know what a REAL historian thinks of his bullshit,
>>>>> try here: http://www.awm.gov.au/events/talks/oration2006.asp
>>
>>>> Doesnt qualify as EVERY HISTORIAN any time soon, fuckwit.
>>
>>> And so far you haven't found a SINGLE historian that claims we were
>>> under any real threat of
>>> invasion by the Japanese.
>>
>> YOU made the claim.
>>
>> YOU get to do the finding.
>>
>> THAT how it works, fuckwit child.
>
> Okay - If that's the way you want it...........
> I just had a look. Couldn't find any historians who claim that we were
> under any threat of invasion. I guess that means I was right all along.
>
> Thanks for playing, moron.
>
> -
> Kwyj.
Rod is busy wiping egg of his stupid septic face once again...
>>>> Next you will be telling everyone that global warming was coused by the
>>>> people of this planet.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You would have to some kind of retard to ignore the real evidence, Rod.
>>
>> There is NO real evidence, just scare mongering to keep us common people
>> in line and an excuse to whack us with more taxes.
>>
>
> There is plenty of evidence, you just chose to ignore it.
What evidence, a few cows farting in a paddock? A few power stations? A few
cars? A few scientists who work for the government or green peace? How small
do you thing this planet is. You have large illusions of grandeur if you
think the population can cause such dramatic changes as global warming.
Polluters, we are, but we havent the skill (or ignorance) to change the
climate.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5e8r7hF37l99jU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5e82u0F37ric6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will_s <willsjunkremove@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon <internetexplorer14@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey lay off the French - they are beautiful people -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in tune with an ethical world than is the US who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at the rest of the world as their oyster -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to be exploited for the benefit of the US
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fuck the rest of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it wasnt for the yanks, you'd have slitty eyes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get yourself a decent history book.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, we all know the poms came rushing down to save our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bacon yet again rule Britannia
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of us know that the Japanese had no intention of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invading the Australian mainland.........
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy to claim.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sure is - Especially when there is absolutely no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentary evidence to suggest that Japan planned any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invasion of mainland Australia and the senior Japanese said
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there were no such plans at the end of the war.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what they would have done about Australia if
>>>>>>>>>>>> the yanks had decided after Pearl Harbor that they didnt
>>>>>>>>>>>> give a damn about that attack and that they didnt care
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough about the Philipinnes etc to try to get it back
>>>>>>>>>>>> after they had been booted out of there by the japs.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your claim about *Jon* having slitty eyes if it
>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't for the yanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Australia would have been invaded by the Japs if they hadn't
>>>>>>>>>> been stopped. Live with it!
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Funny how every historian on the face of the planet disagrees
>>>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suspect you're just trolling with a statement like that.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ia/index2.html
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, he clearly is,
>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ustinvade.html
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether there were specific or detailed invasion plans at that
>>>>>> time, or intent, desire, or just the idea, is irrelevant, since if
>>>>>> the Axis powers had not been defeated,
>>>>>
>>>>> And that wouldnt have happened without the yanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>> there would have been a socialist empire in Europe,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, a Nazi empire instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and a Japanese empire extending right thru the pacific
>>>>>> region, with Aus, NZ, and the USA isolated.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Once the Japanese had consolidated their position, whether we
>>>>>> would have been defeated militarily or forced to capitulate under
>>>>>> threat of overwhelming military might, is a moot point, as the
>>>>>> result would have been the same. We would have been subjugated,
>>>>>> and that gentleman you originally replied to would have had, as
>>>>>> you said, slanty eyes- or more likely possibly never have been
>>>>>> born.
>>>>>
>>>>> His mum/grandmum would have been a Jap
>>>>> 'comfort' woman and so he would have slitty eyes.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure how you thinks genetics work, but if he didn't get half his
>>>> genes from his current father *he* wouldn't exist. Someone else
>>>> would.
>>>
>>> He'd have a different father, fuckwit child.
>>
>> If his particular mix of genes didn't exist HE wouldn't exist.
>
> Pathetic.
Maybe in your drug-addled mind. To the rest of us it's an indisputable fact.
Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5e8va3F37j07hU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5e8r7hF37l99jU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5e82u0F37ric6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will_s <willsjunkremove@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon <internetexplorer14@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey lay off the French - they are beautiful people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - more in tune with an ethical world than is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US who look at the rest of the world as their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oyster - something to be exploited for the benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the US and fuck the rest of the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it wasnt for the yanks, you'd have slitty eyes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get yourself a decent history book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, we all know the poms came rushing down to save
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our bacon yet again rule Britannia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of us know that the Japanese had no intention of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invading the Australian mainland.........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy to claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sure is - Especially when there is absolutely no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentary evidence to suggest that Japan planned any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invasion of mainland Australia and the senior Japanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said there were no such plans at the end of the war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what they would have done about Australia if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the yanks had decided after Pearl Harbor that they didnt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> give a damn about that attack and that they didnt care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough about the Philipinnes etc to try to get it back
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after they had been booted out of there by the japs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your claim about *Jon* having slitty eyes if
>>>>>>>>>>>> it wasn't for the yanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Australia would have been invaded by the Japs if they hadn't
>>>>>>>>>>> been stopped. Live with it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Funny how every historian on the face of the planet disagrees
>>>>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suspect you're just trolling with a statement like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ia/index2.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, he clearly is,
>>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ustinvade.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whether there were specific or detailed invasion plans at that
>>>>>>> time, or intent, desire, or just the idea, is irrelevant, since
>>>>>>> if the Axis powers had not been defeated,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that wouldnt have happened without the yanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> there would have been a socialist empire in Europe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, a Nazi empire instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and a Japanese empire extending right thru the pacific
>>>>>>> region, with Aus, NZ, and the USA isolated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once the Japanese had consolidated their position, whether we
>>>>>>> would have been defeated militarily or forced to capitulate
>>>>>>> under threat of overwhelming military might, is a moot point,
>>>>>>> as the result would have been the same. We would have been
>>>>>>> subjugated, and that gentleman you originally replied to would
>>>>>>> have had, as you said, slanty eyes- or more likely possibly
>>>>>>> never have been born.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His mum/grandmum would have been a Jap
>>>>>> 'comfort' woman and so he would have slitty eyes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure how you thinks genetics work, but if he didn't get half
>>>>> his genes from his current father *he* wouldn't exist. Someone
>>>>> else would.
>>>>
>>>> He'd have a different father, fuckwit child.
>>>
>>> If his particular mix of genes didn't exist HE wouldn't exist.
>>
>> Pathetic.
>
> Maybe in your drug-addled mind. To the rest of us it's an indisputable fact.
Pathetic.
No surprise that it got the bums rush and had to run drugs.
"Two Bob" <dept9@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:467f5d1f$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>>>>> Next you will be telling everyone that global warming was coused by
>>>>> the people of this planet.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You would have to some kind of retard to ignore the real evidence, Rod.
>>>
>>> There is NO real evidence, just scare mongering to keep us common people
>>> in line and an excuse to whack us with more taxes.
>>>
>>
>> There is plenty of evidence, you just chose to ignore it.
>
> What evidence, a few cows farting in a paddock? A few power stations? A
> few cars? A few scientists who work for the government or green peace?
So you chose to believe the nay saying psuedoscientist that work for the US
government and oil companies instead?
How small
> do you thing this planet is. You have large illusions of grandeur if you
> think the population can cause such dramatic changes as global warming.
> Polluters, we are, but we havent the skill (or ignorance) to change the
> climate.
>
>> What evidence, a few cows farting in a paddock? A few power stations? A
>> few cars? A few scientists who work for the government or green peace?
>
> So you chose to believe the nay saying psuedoscientist that work for the
> US government and oil companies instead?
The governments will receive a major windfall with global waming, John
Howard has already stated he wants to bring in a carbon tax.
> How small
>> do you thing this planet is. You have large illusions of grandeur if you
>> think the population can cause such dramatic changes as global warming.
>> Polluters, we are, but we havent the skill (or ignorance) to change the
>> climate.
>>
>
> You are very ignorant if you think we don't.
You are totally ignorant if you think we do. How did we cause global warming
on Mars with only a few visits? What about the global warming that has been
detected on Jupiter, Saturn, Venis, Murcury, even Pluto.
Get a life, this is the biggest con of all time. A government cannot govern
without loyalty or scare tactics.
Rod Speed wrote:
> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5e8va3F37j07hU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5e8r7hF37l99jU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5e82u0F37ric6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> lynx <none@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will_s <willsjunkremove@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@removeozdebate.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon <internetexplorer14@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey lay off the French - they are beautiful people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - more in tune with an ethical world than is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US who look at the rest of the world as their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oyster - something to be exploited for the benefit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the US and fuck the rest of the world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it wasnt for the yanks, you'd have slitty eyes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get yourself a decent history book.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yep, we all know the poms came rushing down to save
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our bacon yet again rule Britannia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of us know that the Japanese had no intention of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invading the Australian mainland.........
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Easy to claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sure is - Especially when there is absolutely no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentary evidence to suggest that Japan planned any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invasion of mainland Australia and the senior Japanese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said there were no such plans at the end of the war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what they would have done about Australia if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the yanks had decided after Pearl Harbor that they didnt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give a damn about that attack and that they didnt care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough about the Philipinnes etc to try to get it back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after they had been booted out of there by the japs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to your claim about *Jon* having slitty eyes if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it wasn't for the yanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia would have been invaded by the Japs if they hadn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> been stopped. Live with it!
>>>>>>>>>>> Funny how every historian on the face of the planet disagrees
>>>>>>>>>>> with you.
>>>>>>>>>> I suspect you're just trolling with a statement like that.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ia/index2.html
>>>>>>>>> Yep, he clearly is,
>>>>>>>>> http://www.users.bigpond.com/battlef...ustinvade.html
>>>>>>>> Whether there were specific or detailed invasion plans at that
>>>>>>>> time, or intent, desire, or just the idea, is irrelevant, since
>>>>>>>> if the Axis powers had not been defeated,
>>>>>>> And that wouldnt have happened without the yanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> there would have been a socialist empire in Europe,
>>>>>>> Nope, a Nazi empire instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and a Japanese empire extending right thru the pacific
>>>>>>>> region, with Aus, NZ, and the USA isolated.
>>>>>>>> Once the Japanese had consolidated their position, whether we
>>>>>>>> would have been defeated militarily or forced to capitulate
>>>>>>>> under threat of overwhelming military might, is a moot point,
>>>>>>>> as the result would have been the same. We would have been
>>>>>>>> subjugated, and that gentleman you originally replied to would
>>>>>>>> have had, as you said, slanty eyes- or more likely possibly
>>>>>>>> never have been born.
>>>>>>> His mum/grandmum would have been a Jap
>>>>>>> 'comfort' woman and so he would have slitty eyes.
>>>>>> Not sure how you thinks genetics work, but if he didn't get half
>>>>>> his genes from his current father *he* wouldn't exist. Someone
>>>>>> else would.
>>>>> He'd have a different father, fuckwit child.
>>>> If his particular mix of genes didn't exist HE wouldn't exist.
>>> Pathetic.
>> Maybe in your drug-addled mind. To the rest of us it's an indisputable fact.
>
> Pathetic.
>
> No surprise that it got the bums rush and had to run drugs.
>
>
Self critisim again woddles ?
how was your night with philthy last week ?
"Two Bob" <dept9@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:4680c4b1$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>>> What evidence, a few cows farting in a paddock? A few power stations? A
>>> few cars? A few scientists who work for the government or green peace?
>>
>> So you chose to believe the nay saying psuedoscientist that work for the
>> US government and oil companies instead?
>
> The governments will receive a major windfall with global waming, John
> Howard has already stated he wants to bring in a carbon tax.
Sure, he's willing to profiteer from it but he isn't willing to make changes
that will reduce emmissions in the long term.
That is simply because he's a short term visioned profiteer (in great
Australian tradition) with no regard to the long term future of this nation.
Australia could be a pioneer in alternative energy sources and develop a
whole industry around that but lets just keep digging crap out of the ground
instead because monkeywork is more profitable in the short term whilst the
brain drain continues...
>> How small
>>> do you thing this planet is. You have large illusions of grandeur if you
>>> think the population can cause such dramatic changes as global warming.
>>> Polluters, we are, but we havent the skill (or ignorance) to change the
>>> climate.
>>>
>>
>> You are very ignorant if you think we don't.
>
> You are totally ignorant if you think we do. How did we cause global
> warming on Mars with only a few visits? What about the global warming that
> has been detected on Jupiter, Saturn, Venis, Murcury, even Pluto.
More psuedo-science to support an irrelevant arguement. None of those
planets have an environment anything like our own.
> Get a life, this is the biggest con of all time. A government cannot
> govern without loyalty or scare tactics.
Nonsense, governments have been trying their hardest to avoid this issue for
a long time.
Next you will be telling us that humanity hasn't caused wholesale
destruction of natural environments and species... the two are linked,
undeniably and causes have been identified with hard evidence. You can pull
any psuedo-science out of your arse to support your own wacky theories but
you can't get away from the cold hard facts that have been presented by
real, independant scientists who know what they are talking about.
<virgmob007@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1182476116.500097.282760@d30g2000prg.googlegr oups.com...
> On Jun 21, 6:06 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jon <internetexplore...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey lay off the French - they are beautiful people - more in tune
>> > with an ethical world than is the US who look at the rest of the
>> > world as their oyster - something to be exploited for the benefit of
>> > the US and fuck the rest of the world.
>>
>> If it wasnt for the yanks, you'd have slitty eyes, child.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Alan Parkington <aparking...@telstra.net> wrote
>> >> I mean they are just so self-indulgent wankers..
>> >> wanking around in an increasingly irrelevant country, spouting their
>> >> 'Mon Dieus' at every
>> >> opportunity.
>> >> When was the last time that the French ever did anything for the
>> >> world?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I don't know why this thread is in this forum (someone could mention
> Sagem phones or Aliteria, or whatever it is called ) but I suppose I
> should have my two cents worth.
>
> As far as "slitty eyes" is concerned, can there be any doubt that in
> about a hundred years won't that be the case generally in Australia if
> present-day immigration policies are followed.
Sure, we didn't all turn into Slavs, Greeks, Italians, English etc etc.
The same kind of concerns are raised every time, mostly because of fear
through ignorance of other cultures.
Go onto any
> university campus and about something approaching a half of all the
> students have "slitty eyes",
Most are foreign students.
and it should be remembered that they are
> all seeking to become citizens
Wrong, most never intend to return.
(as China is a third-world shithole,
> where the Gang of Four will return), and will then bring out all their
> families.
No evidence to support that in the case of foreign students.
There is little that can be done about it (if that is
> desireable, as the coloured immigrants will probably turn Australia
> into a Third-world shithole)
Wrong, most work hard at jobs that "Aussies" find undesirable, same as all
other immigrant groups in the past.
, as the capitalist ruling class (of which
> I seek to get my share of the loot) want to have cheap labour and as
> many consumers as possible.
>
That can be had cheaper in developing nations, like China.
>>>> What evidence, a few cows farting in a paddock? A few power stations? A
>>>> few cars? A few scientists who work for the government or green peace?
>>>
>>> So you chose to believe the nay saying psuedoscientist that work for the
>>> US government and oil companies instead?
>>
>> The governments will receive a major windfall with global waming, John
>> Howard has already stated he wants to bring in a carbon tax.
>
> Sure, he's willing to profiteer from it but he isn't willing to make
> changes that will reduce emmissions in the long term.
>
> That is simply because he's a short term visioned profiteer (in great
> Australian tradition) with no regard to the long term future of this
> nation.
> Australia could be a pioneer in alternative energy sources and develop a
> whole industry around that but lets just keep digging crap out of the
> ground instead because monkeywork is more profitable in the short term
> whilst the brain drain continues...
>
>
>>> How small
>>>> do you thing this planet is. You have large illusions of grandeur if
>>>> you think the population can cause such dramatic changes as global
>>>> warming. Polluters, we are, but we havent the skill (or ignorance) to
>>>> change the climate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are very ignorant if you think we don't.
>>
>> You are totally ignorant if you think we do. How did we cause global
>> warming on Mars with only a few visits? What about the global warming
>> that has been detected on Jupiter, Saturn, Venis, Murcury, even Pluto.
>
> More psuedo-science to support an irrelevant arguement. None of those
> planets have an environment anything like our own.
How can all the planets warming up at the same time be irrelevant? It just
proves that global warming is a natural cycle that is continually happening.
It has always happened and always will. The environment has nothing to do
with it, the plain fact is that the solar system is warming and then the
entire solar system will cool, then warm then cool. . . . . .
>
>> Get a life, this is the biggest con of all time. A government cannot
>> govern without loyalty or scare tactics.
>
> Nonsense, governments have been trying their hardest to avoid this issue
> for a long time.
Only for as long as it has taken to find out the best way to profit from it.
> Next you will be telling us that humanity hasn't caused wholesale
> destruction of natural environments and species...
Never said any such thing. Tho.
the two are linked,
> undeniably and causes have been identified with hard evidence. You can
> pull any psuedo-science out of your arse to support your own wacky
> theories but you can't get away from the cold hard facts that have been
> presented by real, independant scientists who know what they are talking
> about.
These so called scientists are under the employ of governments and
greenpeace. The real scientists are already changing there tune to the cause
of solar system warming.
"Two Bob" <dept9@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:46821562$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>>>>> What evidence, a few cows farting in a paddock? A few power stations?
>>>>> A few cars? A few scientists who work for the government or green
>>>>> peace?
>>>>
>>>> So you chose to believe the nay saying psuedoscientist that work for
>>>> the US government and oil companies instead?
>>>
>>> The governments will receive a major windfall with global waming, John
>>> Howard has already stated he wants to bring in a carbon tax.
>>
>> Sure, he's willing to profiteer from it but he isn't willing to make
>> changes that will reduce emmissions in the long term.
>>
>> That is simply because he's a short term visioned profiteer (in great
>> Australian tradition) with no regard to the long term future of this
>> nation.
>> Australia could be a pioneer in alternative energy sources and develop a
>> whole industry around that but lets just keep digging crap out of the
>> ground instead because monkeywork is more profitable in the short term
>> whilst the brain drain continues...
>>
>>
>>>> How small
>>>>> do you thing this planet is. You have large illusions of grandeur if
>>>>> you think the population can cause such dramatic changes as global
>>>>> warming. Polluters, we are, but we havent the skill (or ignorance) to
>>>>> change the climate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are very ignorant if you think we don't.
>>>
>>> You are totally ignorant if you think we do. How did we cause global
>>> warming on Mars with only a few visits? What about the global warming
>>> that has been detected on Jupiter, Saturn, Venis, Murcury, even Pluto.
>>
>> More psuedo-science to support an irrelevant arguement. None of those
>> planets have an environment anything like our own.
>
> How can all the planets warming up at the same time be irrelevant? It just
> proves that global warming is a natural cycle that is continually
> happening. It has always happened and always will. The environment has
> nothing to do with it, the plain fact is that the solar system is warming
> and then the entire solar system will cool, then warm then cool. . . . . .
Yeah, you will have to excuse me for going with the opinion of independant
and somewhat better qualified scientists then yours. No offense.
>>
>>> Get a life, this is the biggest con of all time. A government cannot
>>> govern without loyalty or scare tactics.
>>
>> Nonsense, governments have been trying their hardest to avoid this issue
>> for a long time.
>
> Only for as long as it has taken to find out the best way to profit from
> it.
>
>> Next you will be telling us that humanity hasn't caused wholesale
>> destruction of natural environments and species...
>
> Never said any such thing. Tho.
>
> the two are linked,
>> undeniably and causes have been identified with hard evidence. You can
>> pull any psuedo-science out of your arse to support your own wacky
>> theories but you can't get away from the cold hard facts that have been
>> presented by real, independant scientists who know what they are talking
>> about.
>
> These so called scientists are under the employ of governments and
> greenpeace.
No, independant scientists. Greenpeace, government, oil companies and anyone
else getting paid off are irrelevant, the hard independant research is
pretty conclusive.
The real scientists are already changing there tune to the cause
> of solar system warming.
Real as in those paid off by those with other agendas, sure. But they are
not independant and are paid to skew their science. You are incredibly naive
to be tricked by the psuedo-scientists whos only aim is to sow the seeds of
doubt with negative propaganda rather then provide any real evidence.
>> Are you a creationist too perchance?
>
> You're not a greenie tree hugger are you?
>
No why? I'm a realist that isn't trying to pretend that humanity isn't
causing some serious environmental destruction.
More efficient energy use and lower emissions are beneficial to everyone
regardless of your stance on global warming, so why oppose it?.
"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
news:1384atufi071j09@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Two Bob" <dept9@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:46821562$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>>>>>> What evidence, a few cows farting in a paddock? A few power stations?
>>>>>> A few cars? A few scientists who work for the government or green
>>>>>> peace?
>>>>>
>>>>> So you chose to believe the nay saying psuedoscientist that work for
>>>>> the US government and oil companies instead?
>>>>
>>>> The governments will receive a major windfall with global waming, John
>>>> Howard has already stated he wants to bring in a carbon tax.
>>>
>>> Sure, he's willing to profiteer from it but he isn't willing to make
>>> changes that will reduce emmissions in the long term.
>>>
>>> That is simply because he's a short term visioned profiteer (in great
>>> Australian tradition) with no regard to the long term future of this
>>> nation.
>>> Australia could be a pioneer in alternative energy sources and develop a
>>> whole industry around that but lets just keep digging crap out of the
>>> ground instead because monkeywork is more profitable in the short term
>>> whilst the brain drain continues...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> How small
>>>>>> do you thing this planet is. You have large illusions of grandeur if
>>>>>> you think the population can cause such dramatic changes as global
>>>>>> warming. Polluters, we are, but we havent the skill (or ignorance) to
>>>>>> change the climate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are very ignorant if you think we don't.
>>>>
>>>> You are totally ignorant if you think we do. How did we cause global
>>>> warming on Mars with only a few visits? What about the global warming
>>>> that has been detected on Jupiter, Saturn, Venis, Murcury, even Pluto.
>>>
>>> More psuedo-science to support an irrelevant arguement. None of those
>>> planets have an environment anything like our own.
>>
>> How can all the planets warming up at the same time be irrelevant? It
>> just proves that global warming is a natural cycle that is continually
>> happening. It has always happened and always will. The environment has
>> nothing to do with it, the plain fact is that the solar system is warming
>> and then the entire solar system will cool, then warm then cool. . . . .
>> .
>
> Yeah, you will have to excuse me for going with the opinion of independant
> and somewhat better qualified scientists then yours. No offense.
>
>>>
>>>> Get a life, this is the biggest con of all time. A government cannot
>>>> govern without loyalty or scare tactics.
>>>
>>> Nonsense, governments have been trying their hardest to avoid this issue
>>> for a long time.
>>
>> Only for as long as it has taken to find out the best way to profit from
>> it.
>>
>>> Next you will be telling us that humanity hasn't caused wholesale
>>> destruction of natural environments and species...
>>
>> Never said any such thing. Tho.
>>
>> the two are linked,
>>> undeniably and causes have been identified with hard evidence. You can
>>> pull any psuedo-science out of your arse to support your own wacky
>>> theories but you can't get away from the cold hard facts that have been
>>> presented by real, independant scientists who know what they are talking
>>> about.
>>
>> These so called scientists are under the employ of governments and
>> greenpeace.
>
> No, independant scientists. Greenpeace, government, oil companies and
> anyone else getting paid off are irrelevant, the hard independant research
> is pretty conclusive.
>
> The real scientists are already changing there tune to the cause
>> of solar system warming.
>
> Real as in those paid off by those with other agendas, sure. But they are
> not independant and are paid to skew their science. You are incredibly
> naive to be tricked by the psuedo-scientists whos only aim is to sow the
> seeds of doubt with negative propaganda rather then provide any real
> evidence.
Maybe you should go to the psuedo NASA site and have a look around for a
start. One, maybe two other planets going through global warming may be a
coincidence, but most of the solar system is NOT. As I stated befor, a lot
of YOUR reputable scientists are starting to change sides and look at the
whole picture now rather than just this little spec of dust in the universe.
>>> Are you a creationist too perchance?
>>
>> You're not a greenie tree hugger are you?
>>
>
> No why? I'm a realist that isn't trying to pretend that humanity isn't
> causing some serious environmental destruction.
You may have noticed in an earlier post, that I dont agree with the polution
we are spewing out. The human race is guilty of many, many things, dont go
blaming us for something that is way too powerful for even us to control.
Re: I hate the French 