According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G network,
which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may roam outside of
the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently dominates.
It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be interesting
to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at what price range.
Hopefully Telstra will make an announcement on this soon. It may be the
replacement that my wife wants when her contract expires. If it does everything
that the iTouch or iPod Classic does it will be the perfect replacement phone.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>
> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
> roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
> dominates.
>
> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
> what price range.
Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
(And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
exchange rate).
I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>
>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>
>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
>> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
>> roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
>> dominates.
>>
>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
>> what price range.
>
> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
> it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>
> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in Australia
> for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current exchange rate).
"If Jobs sticks to his global pricing parity promise, the 8GB iPhone 2.0 will
sell for around $AU220 in Australia. At that kind of bargain basement
price for the iPhone 2.0, you'd be lucky to get $AU100 for your old iPhone
on eBay. Most people would rather keep their iPhone 1.0 as an iPod touch,
or hand it down to a friend, than sell it for a mere $100."
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>
>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>
>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
>> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
>> roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
>> dominates.
>>
>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
>> what price range.
>
>Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
>it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>
>(And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
>exchange rate).
>
>I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>
Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only
get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and
you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>
>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
>>> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who
>>> may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
>>> dominates.
>>>
>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
>>> what price range.
>>
>>Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
>>it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>
>>(And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in Australia
>>for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current exchange rate).
>>
>>I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>>current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>
>>
> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only get
> it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and you
> cannot buy it from the Apple store.
You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11. It
was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
24-month network connection?
Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>
>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900
>>>> Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business
>>>> people who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz
>>>> system currently dominates.
>>>>
>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will
>>>> be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone
>>>> and at what price range.
>>>
>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>
>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
>>> exchange rate).
>>>
>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>
>>>
>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
>> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
>> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>
> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
> 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>
> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with
> a mandatory 24-month network connection?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz
>>>>> 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people
>>>>> who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system
>>>>> currently dominates.
>>>>>
>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>>>>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and
>>>>> at what price range.
>>>>
>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>>
>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
>>>> exchange rate).
>>>>
>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>>>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only
>>> get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and
>>> you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>>
>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11.
>> It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>>
>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
>> stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
>> 24-month network connection?
>
> Thats what they did with the first one.
Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on contract then
pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import one from o/seas or
a place like the site linked to above (at $199 warranties aren't a huge
concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz
>>>>>> 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people
>>>>>> who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system
>>>>>> currently dominates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>>>>>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and
>>>>>> at what price range.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>>>
>>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
>>>>> exchange rate).
>>>>>
>>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>>>>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only
>>>> get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and
>>>> you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>>>
>>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11.
>>> It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
>>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a
>>> mandatory 24-month network connection?
>>
>> Thats what they did with the first one.
>
> Well, they tried to... without much success.
>
> http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm
>
> Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on contract then
> pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import one from o/seas or
> a place like the site linked to above (at $199 warranties aren't a huge
> concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).
Or buy it on a prepaid plan.
"THOUSANDS of Australians have already paid deposits on Apple's new 3G iPhone- which will also be available on prepay plans.
"Both Optus and Vodafone today confirmed they would offer the next-gen iPhone on a prepay plan when it goes on sale on July 11."
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:11:19 Horry may have written:
> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
> stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
> 24-month network connection?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:44:05 -0500, Paul Day wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:11:19 Horry may have written:
>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
>> stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
>> 24-month network connection?
>
> Yes.
You're wrong.
Optus and Vodafone have both said it'll be available on prepaid.
Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900
>>>>>> Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business
>>>>>> people who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100
>>>>>> Mhz system currently dominates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It
>>>>>> will be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the
>>>>>> iPhone and at what price range.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>>>
>>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our
>>>>> current exchange rate).
>>>>>
>>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than
>>>>> the current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
>>>> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
>>>> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>>>
>>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
>>> 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
>>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled
>>> with a mandatory 24-month network connection?
>>
>> Thats what they did with the first one.
>
> Well, they tried to... without much success.
Pity about what happens if you have a warranty problem.
> Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it
> on contract then pay out the network's early termination fee.
Nope, you're fucked if you want to make a warranty claim too.
> Or import one from o/seas or a place like the site linked to above (at $199
> warranties aren't a huge concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).
Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:41:46 +0900, Horry wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry
>>>>> <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new
>>>>>>> 900 Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling
>>>>>>> business people who may roam outside of the metro areas where
>>>>>>> the 2100 Mhz system currently dominates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It
>>>>>>> will be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market
>>>>>>> the iPhone and at what price range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our
>>>>>> current exchange rate).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than
>>>>>> the current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
>>>>> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
>>>>> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>>>>
>>>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
>>>> 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
>>>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled
>>>> with a mandatory 24-month network connection?
>>>
>>> Thats what they did with the first one.
>>
>> Well, they tried to... without much success.
>>
>> http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm
>>
>> Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on
>> contract then pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import
>> one from o/seas or a place like the site linked to above (at $199
>> warranties aren't a huge concern -- other than replacement for DOA
>> units).
> Or buy it on a prepaid plan.
Only povs, drug runners and children use prepaid.
> "THOUSANDS of Australians have already paid deposits on Apple's
> new 3G iPhone- which will also be available on prepay plans.
> "Both Optus and Vodafone today confirmed they would offer the
> next-gen iPhone on a prepay plan when it goes on sale on July 11."
> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
> it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
Won't it be locked to a particular network, though? If it won't be then that's
what I'll do.
My wife has a 3G SIM card in her Nokia 6233. It works on GSM out here in the
stix and goes onto Telstra's 3G network when we get closer to Melbourne. I
wonder what network the iPhone would connect to if her 3G SIM was put in it.
Would it connect to NextG or would it only connect to 3G when in range?
ie. what differences are there between 3G and NextG SIM cards?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>
> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
> roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
> dominates.
>
> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
> what price range.
>
> Hopefully Telstra will make an announcement on this soon. It may be the
> replacement that my wife wants when her contract expires. If it does
> everything that the iTouch or iPod Classic does it will be the perfect
> replacement phone.
Here's some more (mis)information to add to what we currently know
(courtesy of an Optus "leak" to Gizmodo).
It's must be at least partially inaccurate, because there's no mention of
prepaid (which Optus has already stated it will be available on). Then
again, the Optus CEO said the 3G iPhone sold by Optus would provide 3G
service to 96% of the Australian population by the end of the year... yet
the 3G iPhone doesn't operate on the 900Mhz frequency, which is what much
of Optus' rural and regional network will be...
"So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:
* The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't purchase
it outright
* The 8GB model will cost $220, the 16GB $330 * Only the 16GB is available
in white * Optus won't be selling accessories - they will be sold through
the Apple store * There will be two plans available:
a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB
of data and $400 worth of calls
* Both plans include Visual Voicemail * 30c flagfall; 35c per 30 seconds
talk, 25c SMS messages"
> "So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:
>
> * The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't purchase
> it outright
> * There will be two plans available:
> a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB
> of data and $400 worth of calls
Wow. They really do expect to gouge the technophiles, huh?
So, does this mean then, that in addition to paying for the cost of the phone,
say, $299, that you also have to go onto an $80/month plan at a minimum?
I wonder what telcos in the US will be "offering" their customers?
Looks like we'll be sticking with what we have for the foreseeable future, if
indeed, the above turns out to be true.
I wonder, though, if it's not true, if you pay the $50 pre-ordering deposit if
the plans that they do eventually release are the above, and they're not to your
liking, will they refund the $50? I know that it's refunded after you sign up
when you receive the product. But before that?
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:15:46 +1000, Snapper wrote:
> Horry wrote...
>
>> "So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:
>>
>> * The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't
>> purchase it outright
>> * There will be two plans available:
>> a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB
>> of data and $400 worth of calls
>
> Wow. They really do expect to gouge the technophiles, huh?
>
> So, does this mean then, that in addition to paying for the cost of the
> phone, say, $299, that you also have to go onto an $80/month plan at a
> minimum?
It's $220 for the 8GB phone (which matches Jobs' "pricing parity" claim)
and $330 for the 16GB version -- according to the Gizmodo "leak".
But yeah, at least at the time of launch, it seems you have to go onto a
$80/month plan (which includes a small amount of data).
> I wonder what telcos in the US will be "offering" their customers?
AT&T is offering "unlimited data" which it defines as "no more than 5GB
per month". If you google, you'll find details of AT&T's offering.
I posted some info on O2's deal in the UK.
> Looks like we'll be sticking with what we have for the foreseeable
> future, if indeed, the above turns out to be true.
It may just be an attempt by Optus to mislead Vodafone into introducing
uncompetitive plans (though we don't see too much of that kind of
corporate game-playing in Australia).
It'll be interesting to see the price of the prepaid handset. I think the
most expensive prepaid handset is currently $399 (the Nokia E65 on 3
prepaid), and that's about $100 more expensive than the next most
expensive.
> I wonder, though, if it's not true, if you pay the $50 pre-ordering
> deposit if the plans that they do eventually release are the above, and
> they're not to your liking, will they refund the $50? I know that it's
> refunded after you sign up when you receive the product. But before that?
According to that Optus website, it's without obligation. It gets
refunded to your credit card whether or not you buy the iPhone. (In
other words, even if you do buy the iPhone, you pay the full price, and
get your $50 back a few days later.)
> > I wonder, though, if it's not true, if you pay the $50 pre-ordering
> > deposit if the plans that they do eventually release are the above, and
> > they're not to your liking, will they refund the $50? I know that it's
> > refunded after you sign up when you receive the product. But before that?
>
> According to that Optus website, it's without obligation. It gets
> refunded to your credit card whether or not you buy the iPhone. (In
> other words, even if you do buy the iPhone, you pay the full price, and
> get your $50 back a few days later.)
Turns out that it's a $100 deposit. Missus put one down this morning before I
had a chance to discuss this with her.
We also realised that if it's locked to Optus then it will be useless overseas
if she wants to buy a pre-paid SIM card for it whilst over there. International
roaming, no matter which carrier it's with is simply too expensive, particularly
if you start using it to connect to the 'net.
If the phone can be unlocked cheaply enough, then fine, we'll get one. If not,
we'll look at something else. The N95 is available on a $49 cap plan through
Optus. But the 8 gig version, called the N95i is on the same plan but also on a
$20/mth repayment plan, so all up, $69/mth.
We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network. It's not as if
you're gonna go running off to another network when you're committed to say, a
24mth plan, is it?
Anyway the guy said that they had very little info on the product and hopefully
in the next week or two that the pricing/plans info will be released. We're in
no rush, really. Missus doesn't jet out til late July, so we have plenty of time
to decide what to do in this respect. Worst comes to worst, we'll stay with
Telstra and when she's O/S she'll get a pre-paid SIM (they call them "chips" in
the US - never heard of the term "SIM" apparently).
And who knows - Telstra may counter this product release with some deals of its
own. But I'm not holding my breath waiting...
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:rtt054l8s1r5ortnp5cr1mk7to6pgpr7vr@yarwho.com ...
> Horry wrote...
>
>> "So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:
>>
>> * The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't
>> purchase
>> it outright
>> * There will be two plans available:
>> a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB
>> of data and $400 worth of calls
>
> Wow. They really do expect to gouge the technophiles, huh?
> We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network. It's not as
> if
> you're gonna go running off to another network when you're committed to
> say, a
> 24mth plan, is it?
>> We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network. It's not as if you're gonna go running off to another
>> network when you're committed to say, a 24mth plan, is it?
> People do it all the time
Not in this country with non prepaid phones they dont.
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Snapper <snapper1@y7mail.com.invalid> wrote
>> Horry wrote
>>> "So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:
>>> * The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't purchase it outright
>>> * There will be two plans available:
>>> a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB of data and $400 worth of calls
>> Wow. They really do expect to gouge the technophiles, huh?
> Of course. If its Apple, its gouging
Pity thats Optarse, not Apple, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> > We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network. It's not as
> > if you're gonna go running off to another network when you're committed to
> > say, a 24mth plan, is it?
>
> People do it all the time
You're kidding. Why would people sign up for a 2 year contract, then have to pay
the exit fees, which effectively would cover the cost of the phone?
What would be the point of that?
And if this is the case then why lock the phone in the first place? After all,
if people do leave, then at least the telco gets its money back on the phone's
cost and the revenue from calls won't be missed if the customer had only ever
planned to use it to a minimum.
> > Wow. They really do expect to gouge the technophiles, huh?
>
> Of course. If its Apple, its gouging
Don't let the Appleites hear you say that.
Apple is supposed to make user friendly apps. Pity that the iTunes software,
which is my only experience with Apple products other than the media player that
it distributes, is such a piece of shit.
Snapper wrote:
> Michael wrote...
>
>>> We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network. It's not as
>>> if you're gonna go running off to another network when you're committed to
>>> say, a 24mth plan, is it?
>> People do it all the time
>
> You're kidding. Why would people sign up for a 2 year contract, then have to pay
> the exit fees, which effectively would cover the cost of the phone?
>
> What would be the point of that?
>
> And if this is the case then why lock the phone in the first place? After all,
> if people do leave, then at least the telco gets its money back on the phone's
> cost and the revenue from calls won't be missed if the customer had only ever
> planned to use it to a minimum.
That's why only prepaid phones are locked. I can't imagine any company
locks contract phones.
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:24:22 +0100, Will Kemp wrote:
> Snapper wrote:
>> Michael wrote...
>>
>>>> We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network. It's not
>>>> as if you're gonna go running off to another network when you're
>>>> committed to say, a 24mth plan, is it?
>>> People do it all the time
>>
>> You're kidding. Why would people sign up for a 2 year contract, then
>> have to pay the exit fees, which effectively would cover the cost of the
>> phone?
>>
>> What would be the point of that?
>>
>> And if this is the case then why lock the phone in the first place?
>> After all, if people do leave, then at least the telco gets its money
>> back on the phone's cost and the revenue from calls won't be missed if
>> the customer had only ever planned to use it to a minimum.
>
> That's why only prepaid phones are locked. I can't imagine any company
> locks contract phones.
3 locks contract phones.
Weirdly, you can immediately call customer service and they'll give you
the unlocking code at no cost.
I suppose it's to give them a chance to retain your business if you're
thinking of leaving the 3 network (they do ask for your reason for wanting
the unlocking code -- I simply tell them I'm going on a trip to NZ and
want to use a NZ SIM while over there (they'll still give you the code if
you say you're switching to another carrier, but will transfer you to
their customer retention team)).
Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
> Will Kemp wrote
>> Snapper wrote
>>> Michael wrote
>>>>> We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network.
>>>>> It's not as if you're gonna go running off to another network
>>>>> when you're committed to say, a 24mth plan, is it?
>>>> People do it all the time
Not in this country they dont.
>>> You're kidding. Why would people sign up for a 2 year contract, then have
>>> to pay the exit fees, which effectively would cover the cost of the phone?
>>> What would be the point of that?
>>> And if this is the case then why lock the phone in the first place?
>>> After all, if people do leave, then at least the telco gets its
>>> money back on the phone's cost and the revenue from calls won't be
>>> missed if the customer had only ever planned to use it to a minimum.
>> That's why only prepaid phones are locked. I can't
>> imagine any company locks contract phones.
> 3 locks contract phones.
Wota packa terminal fuckwits.
> Weirdly, you can immediately call customer service
> and they'll give you the unlocking code at no cost.
Wota packa terminal fuckwits.
> I suppose it's to give them a chance to retain your
> business if you're thinking of leaving the 3 network
Pity that you still have to keep paying out the contract etc.
> (they do ask for your reason for wanting the unlocking code -- I simply tell
> them I'm going on a trip to NZ and want to use a NZ SIM while over there
I thought you legals on training wheels werent allowed to tell lies ?
> (they'll still give you the code if you say you're switching to another
> carrier, but will transfer you to their customer retention team)).
Who presumably tell you about your financial obligations to 3.
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:35:53 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>> (they'll still give you the code if you say you're switching to another
>> carrier, but will transfer you to their customer retention team)).
>
> Who presumably tell you about your financial obligations to 3.
There might not be any, especially if it's been more than 12 or 24 months
since the purchase of the phone.
> That's why only prepaid phones are locked. I can't imagine any company
> locks contract phones.
Well, hopefully the Optus dude was incorrect. But who knows with an Apple
product?
In any case if it can't be unlocked then we won't get one. It will be useless to
us overseas. The idea is to buy pre-paid SIMs while in the US and Europe.
International roaming is gouging at its worst, whether it's from the companies
here or in the host country.
Last time we did that we were getting bills 3 months after we got home, and they
weren't cheap, either.
More info on Oz's iPone 
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