From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at its investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not want to give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
> In his presentation on CDMA migration plans, Telstra Country Wide group managing director Geoff Booth, just could not bring himself to come out with the number, but talked around it saying: "The industry, and even a politician as recently as today, has taken a stab in the dark on CDMA numbers remaining. Let me state that these estimates have it wrong. Here are some facts: CDMA revenue has now gone from more than 15 percent of total mobile revenue to less than six percent of our total mobile revenue in the past 12 months. Our CDMA revenue base has declined by nearly 60 percent over the same period in the last 12 months."
> With such evasiveness one suspects the real number is embarrassingly large. I'm not sure of what media Booth was referring to, but iTWire's figure of 880,000 reported last week came from no lesser person than the chairman of one of Telstra's resellers, Fone Zone.
James Bell <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote
> From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at
> its investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not
> want to give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
> In his presentation on CDMA migration plans, Telstra Country Wide
> group managing director Geoff Booth, just could not bring himself to
> come out with the number, but talked around it saying: "The
> industry, and even a politician as recently as today, has taken a
> stab in the dark on CDMA numbers remaining. Let me state that these
> estimates have it wrong. Here are some facts: CDMA revenue has now
> gone from more than 15 percent of total mobile revenue to less than
> six percent of our total mobile revenue in the past 12 months. Our
> CDMA revenue base has declined by nearly 60 percent over the same
> period in the last 12 months."
> With such evasiveness one suspects the real number is embarrassingly large.
Or its just difficult to specify. How do you decide what qualifys as 'still on' ?
I have some sims that dont have any fixed charge that happens even
if I dont use them and I deliberately do so minimal activity on them to
ensure they dont get cancelled. Do those qualify as 'still on' ?
> I'm not sure of what media Booth was referring to, but iTWire's figure of 880,000 reported last week came from no
> lesser
> person than the chairman of one of Telstra's resellers, Fone Zone.
Doesnt mean that he has any access to the real number,
and he certainly didnt say what qualifys as 'still on' either.
And that is a particular problem with cdma when there are so
many who have some dinosaur handset that they just have for
real emergencys for when they cant get any GSM service.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> James Bell <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote
>
>> From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
>> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at
>> its investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not
>> want to give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
>
>> In his presentation on CDMA migration plans, Telstra Country Wide
>> group managing director Geoff Booth, just could not bring himself to
>> come out with the number, but talked around it saying: "The
>> industry, and even a politician as recently as today, has taken a
>> stab in the dark on CDMA numbers remaining. Let me state that these
>> estimates have it wrong. Here are some facts: CDMA revenue has now
>> gone from more than 15 percent of total mobile revenue to less than
>> six percent of our total mobile revenue in the past 12 months. Our
>> CDMA revenue base has declined by nearly 60 percent over the same
>> period in the last 12 months."
>
>> With such evasiveness one suspects the real number is embarrassingly
>> large.
>
> Or its just difficult to specify. How do you decide what qualifys as
> 'still on' ?
>
> I have some sims that dont have any fixed charge that happens even
> if I dont use them and I deliberately do so minimal activity on them to
> ensure they dont get cancelled. Do those qualify as 'still on' ?
Yup, still active
>
>> I'm not sure of what media Booth was referring to, but iTWire's figure of
>> 880,000 reported last week came from no lesser
>> person than the chairman of one of Telstra's resellers, Fone Zone.
>
> Doesnt mean that he has any access to the real number,
> and he certainly didnt say what qualifys as 'still on' either.
>
Pretty simple really, if the prepaid account is still active and not
cancelled
> And that is a particular problem with cdma
Nope, no different to GSM
when there are so
> many who have some dinosaur handset that they just have for
> real emergencys for when they cant get any GSM service.
They are still active, so must count towards the number
"James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> spewed forth in message
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> From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
>> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at its
>> investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not want to
>> give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
>
So did you pull this 2m figure out of your arse, then dickwad?
thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> James Bell <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote
>>> From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
>>> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at
>>> its investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not
>>> want to give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
>>> In his presentation on CDMA migration plans, Telstra Country Wide
>>> group managing director Geoff Booth, just could not bring himself to
>>> come out with the number, but talked around it saying: "The
>>> industry, and even a politician as recently as today, has taken a
>>> stab in the dark on CDMA numbers remaining. Let me state that these
>>> estimates have it wrong. Here are some facts: CDMA revenue has now
>>> gone from more than 15 percent of total mobile revenue to less than
>>> six percent of our total mobile revenue in the past 12 months. Our
>>> CDMA revenue base has declined by nearly 60 percent over the same
>>> period in the last 12 months."
>>> With such evasiveness one suspects the real number is embarrassingly large.
>> Or its just difficult to specify. How do you decide what qualifys as 'still on' ?
>> I have some sims that dont have any fixed charge that happens even
>> if I dont use them and I deliberately do so minimal activity on them
>> to ensure they dont get cancelled. Do those qualify as 'still on' ?
> Yup, still active
But what about those who dont bother to make the ocassional call ?
>>> I'm not sure of what media Booth was referring to, but iTWire's
>>> figure of 880,000 reported last week came from no lesser
>>> person than the chairman of one of Telstra's resellers, Fone Zone.
>> Doesnt mean that he has any access to the real number,
>> and he certainly didnt say what qualifys as 'still on' either.
> Pretty simple really,
Nope.
> if the prepaid account is still active and not cancelled
Pity about the post paid that dont have a fixed charge per month.
>> And that is a particular problem with cdma
> Nope, no different to GSM
Wrong when they only have the cdma for when
there is no GSM service, like well out of town etc.
>> when there are so many who have some dinosaur handset that they just have for real emergencys for when they cant get
>> any GSM service.
> They are still active, so must count towards the number
"Alan Parkington" <alanparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote in message
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>
> "James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> spewed forth in
> message
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>> From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
>>> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at its
>>> investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not want to
>>> give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
>>
>
>
> So did you pull this 2m figure out of your arse, then dickwad?
>
The figures seem to be growing ... Telstra still allowing people to sign up?
how does 800k lead to a total of "nearly 2 million still on CDMA"
"James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
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> From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
>> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at its
>> investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not want to
>> give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
>
>> In his presentation on CDMA migration plans, Telstra Country Wide group
>> managing director Geoff Booth, just could not bring himself to come out
>> with the number, but talked around it saying: "The industry, and even a
>> politician as recently as today, has taken a stab in the dark on CDMA
>> numbers remaining. Let me state that these estimates have it wrong. Here
>> are some facts: CDMA revenue has now gone from more than 15 percent of
>> total mobile revenue to less than six percent of our total mobile revenue
>> in the past 12 months. Our CDMA revenue base has declined by nearly 60
>> percent over the same period in the last 12 months."
>
>> With such evasiveness one suspects the real number is embarrassingly
>> large. I'm not sure of what media Booth was referring to, but iTWire's
>> figure of 880,000 reported last week came from no lesser person than the
>> chairman of one of Telstra's resellers, Fone Zone.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> James Bell <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote
>
>> From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
>> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at
>> its investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not
>> want to give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
>
>> In his presentation on CDMA migration plans, Telstra Country Wide
>> group managing director Geoff Booth, just could not bring himself to
>> come out with the number, but talked around it saying: "The
>> industry, and even a politician as recently as today, has taken a
>> stab in the dark on CDMA numbers remaining. Let me state that these
>> estimates have it wrong. Here are some facts: CDMA revenue has now
>> gone from more than 15 percent of total mobile revenue to less than
>> six percent of our total mobile revenue in the past 12 months. Our
>> CDMA revenue base has declined by nearly 60 percent over the same
>> period in the last 12 months."
>
>> With such evasiveness one suspects the real number is embarrassingly
>> large.
>
> Or its just difficult to specify. How do you decide what qualifys as
> 'still on' ?
>
> I have some sims that dont have any fixed charge that happens even
> if I dont use them and I deliberately do so minimal activity on them to
> ensure they dont get cancelled. Do those qualify as 'still on' ?
Yes, they do.
Connected services which are not Telstra official services or test services.
They are still on as you can pick it up and make a call anytime you like
>> I'm not sure of what media Booth was referring to, but iTWire's figure of
>> 880,000 reported last week came from no lesser
>> person than the chairman of one of Telstra's resellers, Fone Zone.
>
> Doesnt mean that he has any access to the real number,
> and he certainly didnt say what qualifys as 'still on' either.
>
> And that is a particular problem with cdma when there are so
> many who have some dinosaur handset that they just have for
> real emergencys for when they cant get any GSM service.
>
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> James Bell <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote
>>> From: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15192/1095/
>>> Amid a deluge of numbers on every aspect of Telstra's business at
>>> its investor day briefing, there was one number that Telstra did not
>>> want to give: CDMA subscribers who have yet to be shifted onto Next G.
>>> In his presentation on CDMA migration plans, Telstra Country Wide
>>> group managing director Geoff Booth, just could not bring himself to
>>> come out with the number, but talked around it saying: "The
>>> industry, and even a politician as recently as today, has taken a
>>> stab in the dark on CDMA numbers remaining. Let me state that these
>>> estimates have it wrong. Here are some facts: CDMA revenue has now
>>> gone from more than 15 percent of total mobile revenue to less than
>>> six percent of our total mobile revenue in the past 12 months. Our
>>> CDMA revenue base has declined by nearly 60 percent over the same
>>> period in the last 12 months."
>>> With such evasiveness one suspects the real number is embarrassingly large.
>> Or its just difficult to specify. How do you decide what qualifys as 'still on' ?
>> I have some sims that dont have any fixed charge that happens even
>> if I dont use them and I deliberately do so minimal activity on them
>> to ensure they dont get cancelled. Do those qualify as 'still on' ?
> Yes, they do.
Stupid way to count them.
> Connected services which are not Telstra official services or test services.
> They are still on as you can pick it up and make a call anytime you like
But many of them wont actually ever be used again, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
>>> I'm not sure of what media Booth was referring to, but iTWire's
>>> figure of 880,000 reported last week came from no lesser
>>> person than the chairman of one of Telstra's resellers, Fone Zone.
>> Doesnt mean that he has any access to the real number,
>> and he certainly didnt say what qualifys as 'still on' either.
>> And that is a particular problem with cdma when there are so
>> many who have some dinosaur handset that they just have for
>> real emergencys for when they cant get any GSM service.
Nearly 2 million still on CDMA 
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