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Old 09-25-2007, 03:17 AM
Marts
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Default NextG Speed Boost Implemented

I noticed that NextG speeds have been boosted to over 14mbps according to an
article posted on Whirlpool.

Some have claimed that this has been the case for some months now.

Now, while I have gone over this before and have gotten the usual smartarse
response from "Michael", I'll go over this again. When I moved house I was using
my Samsung A501 as a modem while we waited for the ADSL2+ service to be
reconnected. During that time, the best that I could get out of it was around
236kbps.

Michael said that the phone was faulty. What his qualifications for giving him
authority to say this I don't know. He won't say, therefore we have to assume
that what he's saying is as credible as any other anonymous poster on Usenet.

Thing is, if it is faulty and I returned it for repair and they sent it back
saying that it works fine I'd probably hit with an expensive "service" charge
for my trouble. I say this because the phone works fine, otherwise.

Recently I purchased a Palm Treo 750 Smartphone and swapped over the SIM card to
it from the 501. We did some tests with it using MMS messages.

We got our daughter to send us a photo, the same photo, to each of our mobiles.
My wife's is a Nokia 6233 on the GSM network running in "2G" mode as we don't
have 3G out here.(it's a 3G phone with a 3G SIm card in it). We only have 2G,
CDMA and NextG.

Anyway, her Nokia seems to download the MMSes quicker than what either the 501
or the Treo do. As best as I can tell both the 501 and the Treo are on the NextG
network.

Also, when using both phones (Treo and 501) as a web browser using the built in
browser software it doesn't seem to be that quick, either. Certainly nothing
like what the ADSL service is like. In fact, I wouldn't say that it was that
much faster than the missus using her phone in the same way. However, it seemed
to be pretty quick once when we tested it out in Melbourne when it was back in a
3G network.

I'll have to wait and see if things improve around here. Or maybe this high
speed stuff is purely for phones that are used as modems or dedicated NextG
"modems" that you can buy for laptops, etc..

Certainly, as a general phone using data services it ain't that quick, by any
means.


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Old 09-26-2007, 09:32 AM
Will Kemp
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Default Re: NextG Speed Boost Implemented

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:17:26 +1000, Marts wrote:

> I noticed that NextG speeds have been boosted to over 14mbps according
> to an article posted on Whirlpool.
>
> Some have claimed that this has been the case for some months now.
>
> Now, while I have gone over this before and have gotten the usual
> smartarse response from "Michael", I'll go over this again. When I moved
> house I was using my Samsung A501 as a modem while we waited for the
> ADSL2+ service to be reconnected. During that time, the best that I
> could get out of it was around 236kbps.
>
> Michael said that the phone was faulty. What his qualifications for
> giving him authority to say this I don't know. He won't say, therefore
> we have to assume that what he's saying is as credible as any other
> anonymous poster on Usenet.
>
> Thing is, if it is faulty and I returned it for repair and they sent it
> back saying that it works fine I'd probably hit with an expensive
> "service" charge for my trouble. I say this because the phone works
> fine, otherwise.
>
> Recently I purchased a Palm Treo 750 Smartphone and swapped over the SIM
> card to it from the 501. We did some tests with it using MMS messages.
>
> We got our daughter to send us a photo, the same photo, to each of our
> mobiles. My wife's is a Nokia 6233 on the GSM network running in "2G"
> mode as we don't have 3G out here.(it's a 3G phone with a 3G SIm card in
> it). We only have 2G, CDMA and NextG.
>
> Anyway, her Nokia seems to download the MMSes quicker than what either
> the 501 or the Treo do. As best as I can tell both the 501 and the Treo
> are on the NextG network.
>
> Also, when using both phones (Treo and 501) as a web browser using the
> built in browser software it doesn't seem to be that quick, either.
> Certainly nothing like what the ADSL service is like. In fact, I
> wouldn't say that it was that much faster than the missus using her
> phone in the same way. However, it seemed to be pretty quick once when
> we tested it out in Melbourne when it was back in a 3G network.
>
> I'll have to wait and see if things improve around here. Or maybe this
> high speed stuff is purely for phones that are used as modems or
> dedicated NextG "modems" that you can buy for laptops, etc..
>
> Certainly, as a general phone using data services it ain't that quick,
> by any means.


Well, i'm on NextG here and i can tell you for certain that it ain't
anything like as fast as they pretend. It seems slower than 512kbps ADSL.
In fact, if it was 236kbps i wouldn't be at all surprised.

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Old 09-26-2007, 09:27 PM
brian w edginton
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Default Re: NextG Speed Boost Implemented

On 26 Sep 2007 09:32:58 GMT, Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote:

>Well, i'm on NextG here and i can tell you for certain that it ain't
>anything like as fast as they pretend. It seems slower than 512kbps ADSL.
>In fact, if it was 236kbps i wouldn't be at all surprised.



236 is about what I get with wireless "broadband", too.

A joke!!!!

But it beats the heck out of the 14-24 I used to get from dialup.


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Old 09-27-2007, 09:21 AM
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:27:55 +0000, brian w edginton wrote:

> On 26 Sep 2007 09:32:58 GMT, Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote:
>
>>Well, i'm on NextG here and i can tell you for certain that it ain't
>>anything like as fast as they pretend. It seems slower than 512kbps
>>ADSL. In fact, if it was 236kbps i wouldn't be at all surprised.

>
>
> 236 is about what I get with wireless "broadband", too.
>
> A joke!!!!
>
> But it beats the heck out of the 14-24 I used to get from dialup.


Not at $40 for 3MB, it doesn't!!!

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Old 09-27-2007, 01:20 PM
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On Sep 25, 1:17 pm, Marts <marts...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> I noticed that NextG speeds have been boosted to over 14mbps according to an
> article posted on Whirlpool.
>
> Some have claimed that this has been the case for some months now.
>
> Now, while I have gone over this before and have gotten the usual smartarse
> response from "Michael", I'll go over this again. When I moved house I was using
> my Samsung A501 as a modem while we waited for the ADSL2+ service to be
> reconnected. During that time, the best that I could get out of it was around
> 236kbps.
>
> Michael said that the phone was faulty. What his qualifications for giving him
> authority to say this I don't know. He won't say, therefore we have to assume
> that what he's saying is as credible as any other anonymous poster on Usenet.
>
> Thing is, if it is faulty and I returned it for repair and they sent it back
> saying that it works fine I'd probably hit with an expensive "service" charge
> for my trouble. I say this because the phone works fine, otherwise.
>
> Recently I purchased a Palm Treo 750 Smartphone and swapped over the SIM card to
> it from the 501. We did some tests with it using MMS messages.
>
> We got our daughter to send us a photo, the same photo, to each of our mobiles.
> My wife's is a Nokia 6233 on the GSM network running in "2G" mode as we don't
> have 3G out here.(it's a 3G phone with a 3G SIm card in it). We only have 2G,
> CDMA and NextG.
>
> Anyway, her Nokia seems to download the MMSes quicker than what either the 501
> or the Treo do. As best as I can tell both the 501 and the Treo are on the NextG
> network.
>
> Also, when using both phones (Treo and 501) as a web browser using the built in
> browser software it doesn't seem to be that quick, either. Certainly nothing
> like what the ADSL service is like. In fact, I wouldn't say that it was that
> much faster than the missus using her phone in the same way. However, it seemed
> to be pretty quick once when we tested it out in Melbourne when it was back in a
> 3G network.
>
> I'll have to wait and see if things improve around here. Or maybe this high
> speed stuff is purely for phones that are used as modems or dedicated NextG
> "modems" that you can buy for laptops, etc..
>
> Certainly, as a general phone using data services it ain't that quick, by any
> means.
>
> --
> First things first, but neccesarily in that order


Interesting.
Call Telstra wireless and data on 1300 131 816. The technical type on
the end of the line could explain a few things. Michael has been quiet
of late. Maybe he's been retrenched or something. I work in a
different Telstra dept but I know little of the little data field.


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Old 09-28-2007, 12:17 AM
brian w edginton
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Default Re: NextG Speed Boost Implemented

On 27 Sep 2007 09:21:25 GMT, Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:27:55 +0000, brian w edginton wrote:
>
>> On 26 Sep 2007 09:32:58 GMT, Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Well, i'm on NextG here and i can tell you for certain that it ain't
>>>anything like as fast as they pretend. It seems slower than 512kbps
>>>ADSL. In fact, if it was 236kbps i wouldn't be at all surprised.

>>
>>
>> 236 is about what I get with wireless "broadband", too.
>>
>> A joke!!!!
>>
>> But it beats the heck out of the 14-24 I used to get from dialup.

>
>Not at $40 for 3MB, it doesn't!!!




You have me at a disadvantage!
Who pays $40 for 3MB on nextG wireless internet?


Oh....cross-purposes, I suspect.
Some of us are talking phone use.....some are talking PC using a
modem.

I was referring to my PC wireless "broadband" connection.
Sorry if I confused anyone.

No way I will use my nextG phone for anything other than voice calls.


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Old 09-28-2007, 07:22 AM
Marts
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Spokes wrote...

> Call Telstra wireless and data on 1300 131 816. The technical type on
> the end of the line could explain a few things. Michael has been quiet
> of late. Maybe he's been retrenched or something. I work in a
> different Telstra dept but I know little of the little data field.


Thanks for the number. I'll give them a buzz.

Speaking of NextG's "faster" data services, last night on TV there was an ad
with a fellow and his son kicking a footy around. At first I thought it was
another Toyota ad featuring a retired AFL player.

Anyway, they had the "story" revolve around NextG's video phone service. It
looked to me like they superimposed a video image over where the phone's screen
is to simulate a video call. The picture quality, for starters, was superb, as
was the smoothness of the video stream itself.

The few times that I made a video call, either to another NextG phone or to my
daughter's 3G phone on "3", it was not much better than a jerky webcam, with
similar quality.

That was on a Samsung A501. I now use a Palm Treo. It doesn't have video
calling, which while a tad disappointing given the cost of the phone and the
gadget value, isn't something that I miss greatly.


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Old 09-28-2007, 01:48 PM
Marts
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brian w edginton wrote...


> No way I will use my nextG phone for anything other than voice calls.


Yep, any other use and you can blow your monthly "cap" in no time flat.

I worked it out from my bills that just flipping the phone open and accidentally
pressing the button that opens the Bigpond browser cost me around 12 cents. And
for that 12 cents I got the Bigpond logo twirling around as it was trying to
connect. Closing the phone terminated the call.

I dunno how many times I did this til I learned to keep my fat fingers off the
button, and finally getting Telstra to put a bar on data calls/connections on my
phone.

Prior to that, I bought a 70 meg data pack for $29. I used it to connect the
mobile, as a modem to the 'net while we waited for Telstra to reconnect our
ADSL2+ service. We used the 70 megs up in 2 days, just looking at emails and me
downloading a couple of hundred messages a day to my news reader.

After that we used a loan account to dial into a local provider that our ADSL2+
ISP provided for us while we waited for the transfer to be completed. I forgot
how painful 56k was, particularly given that we're used to 16mbit/1.02mbit
connections..

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Old 10-01-2007, 12:17 PM
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"Marts" <marts_57@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:rkugf35ih078br1mi1v201ie4bsgq8fgta@4ax.com...
>I noticed that NextG speeds have been boosted to over 14mbps according to
>an
> article posted on Whirlpool.
>
> Some have claimed that this has been the case for some months now.
>
> Now, while I have gone over this before and have gotten the usual
> smartarse
> response from "Michael", I'll go over this again.


Your phone is still faulty



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Old 10-01-2007, 12:17 PM
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"brian w edginton" <edgo.2@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> On 26 Sep 2007 09:32:58 GMT, Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote:
>
>>Well, i'm on NextG here and i can tell you for certain that it ain't
>>anything like as fast as they pretend. It seems slower than 512kbps ADSL.
>>In fact, if it was 236kbps i wouldn't be at all surprised.

>
>
> 236 is about what I get with wireless "broadband", too.


256k is broadband, so 236 isnt much off it



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Old 10-01-2007, 12:18 PM
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> Interesting.
> Call Telstra wireless and data on 1300 131 816. The technical type on
> the end of the line could explain a few things. Michael has been quiet
> of late. Maybe he's been retrenched or something. I work in a


No, just forgot about the group



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Old 10-01-2007, 09:33 PM
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:18:21 +0000, Michael wrote:

>> Interesting.
>> Call Telstra wireless and data on 1300 131 816. The technical type on
>> the end of the line could explain a few things. Michael has been quiet
>> of late. Maybe he's been retrenched or something. I work in a

>
> No, just forgot about the group


Busy working overtime and saving frantically, so you can afford to browse
this NG using your NextG account, more like!

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Old 10-05-2007, 08:22 AM
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"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:18:21 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
>>> Interesting.
>>> Call Telstra wireless and data on 1300 131 816. The technical type on
>>> the end of the line could explain a few things. Michael has been quiet
>>> of late. Maybe he's been retrenched or something. I work in a

>>
>> No, just forgot about the group

>
> Busy working overtime and saving frantically, so you can afford to browse
> this NG using your NextG account, more like!


No overtime where I come from.



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