Nokia (N95) Time Zone Changing

Have N95 (original v10 firmware). Set to Australia (NSW) AEST. That's
fine, and appointments made in local time.

Trouble was I went overseas last week after making overseas
appointments from Oz. When I arrived overseas the phone promptly
altered all the appointments by the difference in time zone, so that a
10am appointment became 12 noon (I went to NZ). Aaaah!! My standard
7am alarm became 9am - if I hadn't noticed I would have been cactus.

Have never come across a phone or organiser that did this
automatically before without giving me an option. Not only that, but
this "enhancement" must be of limited value I would have thought, in
fact I'm almost stuck to think of a rare occasion when I would want
this to happen (perhaps if I have a Conference Call booked for a
specific time locally but that is about the only instance). I can find
no reference to this in the manual (if anyone finds such a reference
pls let me know which page before I go cross-eyed?) or in newsgroups.

Anyone else come across this and it caused a problem?

Anyone know a way to prevent this, or do I need to install a decent
PIM?

Is this the same across most modern Nokias (in which case I may as
well go back to SE)?

- johnno

mrripcurl wrote:
> Trouble was I went overseas last week after making overseas
> appointments from Oz. When I arrived overseas the phone promptly
> altered all the appointments by the difference in time zone, so that a
> 10am appointment became 12 noon (I went to NZ). Aaaah!! My standard
> 7am alarm became 9am - if I hadn't noticed I would have been cactus.

It sounds to me like it has actually kept everything correct, because of
the time zone change it appears to be wrong to you. But really they
have stayed the same in relation to you initial time zone.


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:19:05 +1000, Simon Templar wrote:

> mrripcurl wrote:
>> Trouble was I went overseas last week after making overseas
>> appointments from Oz. When I arrived overseas the phone promptly
>> altered all the appointments by the difference in time zone, so that a
>> 10am appointment became 12 noon (I went to NZ). Aaaah!! My standard
>> 7am alarm became 9am - if I hadn't noticed I would have been cactus.
>
> It sounds to me like it has actually kept everything correct, because of
> the time zone change it appears to be wrong to you. But really they
> have stayed the same in relation to you initial time zone.

Precisely. And being a MOBILE phone, that is NOT desirable.

Anthony Horan wrote:
> Precisely. And being a MOBILE phone, that is NOT desirable.

I'm not sure if I agree, say you have to have a conference over the
phone at 1200 AEST, you travel to Perth for some reason and the phone
then alerts you at 1200 WST, you call up and the conference is finished!

Not that I travel, but being in the hobby of Amateur Radio I have come
to understand the importance of time zones.

Considering the phone tracks the relevant time zone, I'm sure it would
revert back to the correct local time when you are back in NSW.


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

"Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
news:5hld9gF3kmm4bU1@mid.individual.net...
> Anthony Horan wrote:
>> Precisely. And being a MOBILE phone, that is NOT desirable.
>
> I'm not sure if I agree, say you have to have a conference over the phone
> at 1200 AEST, you travel to Perth for some reason and the phone then
> alerts you at 1200 WST, you call up and the conference is finished!

He's right

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:10:45 GMT, Michael J wrote:

> "Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
> news:5hld9gF3kmm4bU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Anthony Horan wrote:
>>> Precisely. And being a MOBILE phone, that is NOT desirable.
>>
>> I'm not sure if I agree, say you have to have a conference over the phone
>> at 1200 AEST, you travel to Perth for some reason and the phone then
>> alerts you at 1200 WST, you call up and the conference is finished!
>
> He's right

As far as conference calls go, yes. As far as everything else goes, no.

On Aug 8, 1:03 am, Anthony Horan <anthonyho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:10:45 GMT, Michael J wrote:
> > "Simon Templar" <use...@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
> >news:5hld9gF3kmm4bU1@mid.individual.net...
> >> Anthony Horan wrote:
> >>> Precisely. And being a MOBILE phone, that is NOT desirable.
>
> >> I'm not sure if I agree, say you have to have a conference over the phone
> >> at 1200 AEST, you travel to Perth for some reason and the phone then
> >> alerts you at 1200 WST, you call up and the conference is finished!
>
> > He's right
>
> As far as conference calls go, yes. As far as everything else goes, no.

Okay, no-one has told me whether this is a feature across modern
Nokias or ltd to N95. Anyone know? I have subsequently found it same
on E60 (I think that was what I was told or might have been E65).

In the past 22 years with mobiles I've had about 25 mobiles and 6
pdas. This is the first one that has done this automatically. What I
most dislike is that Nok have changed this recently but not noted such
a change on any freely available list. Nok Support say I cannot
disable but they "may" give an option in future firmware upgrades,
however they claim that since there was "a demand" for such a change
the odds are not good (yet they couldn't point me to one single
newsgroup or website advocating for such a change nor give me any idea
of how many messages constituted "a demand" so that I could organise a
counter-demand).

And yes Simon, the times did change back, which means all those
appointments that I made whilst I was away now look as though they
occurred at 7am rather than 9am! I know when I was there so not a big
issue, unless of course the Police decide to seize my phone as
evidence in which case best of luck to them!

mrripcurl wrote:
> Okay, no-one has told me whether this is a feature across modern
> Nokias or ltd to N95. Anyone know?

I have an N70 personally, but couldn't say if it happens with it because
I don't travel that far a field.


> And yes Simon, the times did change back, which means all those
> appointments that I made whilst I was away now look as though they
> occurred at 7am rather than 9am! I know when I was there so not a big
> issue, unless of course the Police decide to seize my phone as
> evidence in which case best of luck to them!

I can see the problem if you aren't used to working different time
zones, although to me it sounds quite logical.

I suppose there is one work around for you in the mean time and that
would be to disable the automatic time update feature, that way when you
fire your phone up in another time zone it won't change the time. Of
course it will still show the time back here in Australia, rather than
where you are, but at least it won't change the appointments on you.


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

mrripcurl wrote...

>In the past 22 years with mobiles I've had about 25 mobiles and 6

What sort of mobile did you have back in 1985? Presumably this was here in
Oz?


--
A bachelor is someone who doesn't make the same mistake once..

Actually I never had the automatic time zone update thingy on! But I
did manually change the timezone when I went overseas, silly me! To
think I thought that's what the feature was for! Anyway, from now on
will never change time zone, will leave it as AEST and just change the
time - hopefully that should work and tho I haven't been back o/seas
to check this Nok Support agree that this will be a getaround for me.

On Aug 10, 6:08 am, Simon Templar <use...@vk3xem.net> wrote:
> mrripcurl wrote:
> > Okay, no-one has told me whether this is a feature across modern
> > Nokias or ltd to N95. Anyone know?
>
> I have an N70 personally, but couldn't say if it happens with it because
> I don't travel that far a field.
>
> > And yes Simon, the times did change back, which means all those
> > appointments that I made whilst I was away now look as though they
> > occurred at 7am rather than 9am! I know when I was there so not a big
> > issue, unless of course the Police decide to seize my phone as
> > evidence in which case best of luck to them!
>
> I can see the problem if you aren't used to working different time
> zones, although to me it sounds quite logical.
>
> I suppose there is one work around for you in the mean time and that
> would be to disable the automatic time update feature, that way when you
> fire your phone up in another time zone it won't change the time. Of
> course it will still show the time back here in Australia, rather than
> where you are, but at least it won't change the appointments on you.
>
> --
> The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
> belong to.
>
> 73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
> <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT...>

On Aug 10, 7:25 pm, Marts <marts...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> mrripcurl wrote...
> >In the past 22 years with mobiles I've had about 25 mobiles and 6
>
> What sort of mobile did you have back in 1985? Presumably this was here in
> Oz?
>
> --
> A bachelor is someone who doesn't make the same mistake once..

Actually, no it was in NZ and I had two. One was a carphone whose
apparatus took up a mile of room under the backseat (and was so
cumbersome that when I sold the car pretty much had to leave the phone
in it), and the second so-called portable needed a briefcase to carry
it around (and it took up the whole innards of the briefcase). The
first mobile that I got here was a brick and a half in about 1989 from
Technophone (remember them?) with an aerial that went at least half-
way up my back (cost $3500 from memory), yet for all its simplicity it
roamed quite happily on both sides of the Tasman and in Singapore
(though had to "register" it in each country whenever I visited, or
maybe I had to change SIM card - I know it took a bit of organising
but it worked). All ancient history nowadays.