When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
December. Had been received and deleted then.
Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
icon had changed to 2.5G.
I guess there has been a local upgrade on the NSW North Coast..
No idea how to use it, though....can't find the book.
Doesn't matter.....don't need anything I haven't been using, anyway.
Just thought it interesting.
Motorola V3x, BTW.
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:15:35 GMT, brian w edginton
<edgo.2@bigpond.com> wrote:
>When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
>me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
>December. Had been received and deleted then.
>Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
>icon had changed to 2.5G.
>I guess there has been a local upgrade on the NSW North Coast..
>No idea how to use it, though....can't find the book.
>Doesn't matter.....don't need anything I haven't been using, anyway.
>Just thought it interesting.
>
>Motorola V3x, BTW.
Umm.....changed back to 2G.
Now I have what looks like a GPRS icon....other one is gone. I think
it indicated PDP (whatever that is)....found the book.
Didn't have either the GPRS or PDP icons yesterday.
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:15:35 GMT, brian w edginton
<edgo.2@bigpond.com> wrote:
>When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
>me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
>December. Had been received and deleted then.
Maybe they had a Network failure somewhere to do with SMS and
installed a backup file from back then.
>Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
>icon had changed to 2.5G.
I've never seen a 2.5G Icon before. If it was a G instead of the
antenna it means 3G, so maybe they are in the process of upgrading to
3G in your area.
--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I
may belong to.
73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:29:35 +1000, Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net>
wrote:
>I've never seen a 2.5G Icon before. If it was a G instead of the
>antenna it means 3G, so maybe they are in the process of upgrading to
>3G in your area.
First time I have seen it, also.
But it was there....alongside the antenna icon.
Have checked the book....2.5 IS listed as an icon.
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"Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
news:m2oj03lgcptifho77eamp987i902d6dms3@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:15:35 GMT, brian w edginton
> <edgo.2@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
>>me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
>>December. Had been received and deleted then.
>
> Maybe they had a Network failure somewhere to do with SMS and
> installed a backup file from back then.
>
>>Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
>>icon had changed to 2.5G.
>
> I've never seen a 2.5G Icon before. If it was a G instead of the
> antenna it means 3G, so maybe they are in the process of upgrading to
> 3G in your area.
he doesnt have a 3g phone from memory
>
> --
> The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I
> may belong to.
>
> 73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
> <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>
I had that happen on my v3x in Perth a few months ago, but it's still
pretty patchy, keeps changing from 3G to 2.5 and 2G, so I set it to stay
on 2/2.5G.
I'll wait a few more months before I change it back to auto.
brian w edginton wrote:
> When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
> me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
> December. Had been received and deleted then.
> Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
> icon had changed to 2.5G.
> I guess there has been a local upgrade on the NSW North Coast..
> No idea how to use it, though....can't find the book.
> Doesn't matter.....don't need anything I haven't been using, anyway.
> Just thought it interesting.
>
> Motorola V3x, BTW.
>
>
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>I had that happen on my v3x in Perth a few months ago, but it's still
>pretty patchy, keeps changing from 3G to 2.5 and 2G, so I set it to stay
>on 2/2.5G.
>
>I'll wait a few more months before I change it back to auto.
>
>
Happened again this morning. Turned the phone on at 5 AM. Was
2.5G.....looked again at 9 AM and it was 2G again.
My SIM is a few years old....so I assume it is 2G.
Could Optus have changed the local setup recently? And, maybe, my SIM
is having problems coping?
No idea.
Would ring Optus.....but help lines drive me crazy. Only use them as a
last resort.
When on 2G, I get a Data icon.
When I am on 2.5G, a Packet Data Available icon.
Didn't get either until recently.
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:26:29 +0800 Carsten Bauer may have written:
> I had that happen on my v3x in Perth a few months ago, but it's still
> pretty patchy, keeps changing from 3G to 2.5 and 2G, so I set it to stay
> on 2/2.5G.
There are parts of Optus' GSM network that don't even support GPRS (ie,
they're "2G")? How quaint.
On 4 Apr 2007 11:17:04 +0800, Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:26:29 +0800 Carsten Bauer may have written:
>> I had that happen on my v3x in Perth a few months ago, but it's still
>> pretty patchy, keeps changing from 3G to 2.5 and 2G, so I set it to stay
>> on 2/2.5G.
>
>There are parts of Optus' GSM network that don't even support GPRS (ie,
>they're "2G")? How quaint.
>
>PD
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:59:09 +1000, John Henderson
<jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote:
>Paul Day wrote:
>
>> There are parts of Optus' GSM network that don't even support
>> GPRS (ie, they're "2G")? How quaint.
>
>These days the usual explanation for cells lacking GPRS is that
>they're extended range cells, found in just a few rural
>locations. These sacrifice half the available timeslots so as
>to break the 35 km limit imposed by timing advance. Only half
>the number of concurrent calls are possible as a result.
>
>As far as I'm aware, only Ericsson make extended range cells,
>and they haven't found it economical to tackle the work
>required to get GPRS operating in this tiny, uniquely
>Australian specialty market.
>
>John
Same thing this morning....2.5G at 5:00...2G by 9:00
I don't think it is a long range site. Connection is patchy 10klms
away. Despite the excellent ridge-top location.
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> Same thing this morning....2.5G at 5:00...2G by 9:00
>
> I don't think it is a long range site. Connection is patchy
> 10klms away. Despite the excellent ridge-top location.
I can't help you because I don't know what "2.5G" means. By
"2G" I mean pre-UMTS GSM.
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:43:21 +1000, John Henderson
<jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote:
>brian w edginton wrote:
>
>> Same thing this morning....2.5G at 5:00...2G by 9:00
>>
>> I don't think it is a long range site. Connection is patchy
>> 10klms away. Despite the excellent ridge-top location.
>
>I can't help you because I don't know what "2.5G" means. By
>"2G" I mean pre-UMTS GSM.
>
>John
Thanks, John.
I don't know, either.
But the book for my ZTE 850 NextG phone says it (2.5G) is GPRS.
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:43:21 +1000 John Henderson may have written:
> I can't help you because I don't know what "2.5G" means. By "2G" I
> mean pre-UMTS GSM.
> But the book for my ZTE 850 NextG phone says it (2.5G) is
> GPRS.
Those fractional parts (thanks Paul for a more extensive list)
are very much unofficial. So disagreements about detail are
possible.
Your 2.5G icon may mean that you have a GPRS session going, and
not just that GPRS is available from your serving cell. Unless
you've got GPRS always active, something may have started a
session, and in which case it may eventually close when the
inactivity "linger time" expires.
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 07:35:09 +1000, John Henderson
<jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote:
>brian w edginton wrote:
>
>> But the book for my ZTE 850 NextG phone says it (2.5G) is
>> GPRS.
>
>Those fractional parts (thanks Paul for a more extensive list)
>are very much unofficial. So disagreements about detail are
>possible.
>
>Your 2.5G icon may mean that you have a GPRS session going, and
>not just that GPRS is available from your serving cell. Unless
>you've got GPRS always active, something may have started a
>session, and in which case it may eventually close when the
>inactivity "linger time" expires.
>
>John
Thanks.
Been checking....comes on when I turn the phone on. Changes after an
hour or so.
Should I be worried about charges for service?
If so I will have to figure how to turn it off.
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 07:35:09 +1000 John Henderson may have written:
> > But the book for my ZTE 850 NextG phone says it (2.5G) is GPRS.
>
> Those fractional parts (thanks Paul for a more extensive list)
> are very much unofficial. So disagreements about detail are
> possible.
Absolutely. It's more of an "understanding" than anything else. I was
fully expecting to get stained by posting those figures, but haven't
yet.
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:55:40 +1000, John Henderson
<jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote:
>
>Can't say without knowing what's turning it on. I'd be checking
>my bill though.
>
>There may be a configuration setting somewhere in the menus to
>start up with a GPRS connection. Or perhaps Optus turns it on
>by default to tempt you to use it and spend more. This is
>conceivably a setting made via a control SMS you never saw.
>
>John
Will be checking!
Thanks.
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:55:40 +1000, John Henderson wrote:
> There may be a configuration setting somewhere in the menus to
> start up with a GPRS connection. Or perhaps Optus turns it on
> by default to tempt you to use it and spend more. This is
> conceivably a setting made via a control SMS you never saw.
My SE K750i on Virgin (Optus) will start up with the GPRS indicator active.
After some period of time, that indicator goes away, and only returns when
I initiate a GPRS session or when someone sends me an MMS.
It appears to be standard behaviour for their network.
Paul Day wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:43:21 +1000 John Henderson may have written:
>> I can't help you because I don't know what "2.5G" means. By "2G" I
>> mean pre-UMTS GSM.
>
> WRT data:
>
> 2G = GSM CSD
> 2.5G = GPRS
> 2.75G = EDGE
> 3G = UMTS R99
> 3.5G = HSDPA
davmel wrote:
> Paul Day wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:43:21 +1000 John Henderson may have written:
>>> I can't help you because I don't know what "2.5G" means. By "2G" I
>>> mean pre-UMTS GSM.
>>
>> WRT data:
>>
>> 2G = GSM CSD
>> 2.5G = GPRS
>> 2.75G = EDGE
>> 3G = UMTS R99
>> 3.5G = HSDPA
>
> 3.6G = HSUPA
> 3.75G = HSPA+
I (and the follow-up poster) were only talking about GSM standards. So
UMTS rev. 8 would be the logical item to put there. If we're talking
other non-GSM standards, the list above would be as long as my arm.
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