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Old 06-18-2007, 05:34 AM
James Bell
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Default Optus Elders joint venture to build $2bn regional broadband ADSL2+and 4G WiMAX network, while Telstra continues to whinge and **** Australiaup the arse.

Get it into you, fantastic news.

WiMAX for the bush will blow Telstra's white elephant LastG network out
of the water. ADSL2+ will be rolled out to long suffering country folk,
as Telstra couldn't give a **** about Australia (even though all their
regional exchange hardware could have ADSL2+ turned on at the flick of a
switch).

http://www.australianit.news.com.au/...-15306,00.html

This network will be open for wholesale access as well.

Regards,
The counter-bell.

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Old 06-18-2007, 09:51 AM
Russell Wood
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Default Re: Optus Elders joint venture to build $2bn regional broadband ADSL2+ and 4G WiMAX network, while Telstra continues to whinge and **** Australia up the arse.

On 2007-06-18, James Bell <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote:
> Get it into you, fantastic news.
>
> WiMAX for the bush will blow Telstra's white elephant LastG network out
> of the water. ADSL2+ will be rolled out to long suffering country folk,
> as Telstra couldn't give a **** about Australia (even though all their
> regional exchange hardware could have ADSL2+ turned on at the flick of a
> switch).
>
> http://www.australianit.news.com.au/...-15306,00.html
>
> This network will be open for wholesale access as well.


Australian Broadband is looking promising once again.

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Russell Wood <http://www.dynode.net/~rjw/>

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Old 06-19-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: Optus/Elders - A Ridiculous Decision!


James, get your facts straight....

Broadband Decision
To: Helen (Senator) Coonan (senator.coonan@aph.gov.au)
Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 9:31:40 AM

Senator Helen Coonan - Minister for Communications

Two years to roll out all of that broadband? That's absolute rubbish and you
know it! You must think that there are a lot of dumb people out here. This
ridiculous estimate will blow out dramatically as soon as the election is
over.

And as for saddling country people with completely untried WiMax wireless
technology - shame on you. You have just abandoned a key constituency - the
entire country population of Australia. Radio transmission is never as good
as fixed line and you know it. Just think of the difference in call quality
between fixed line and mobile. Country people will end up with a
considerably slower second rate service which will be affected by a number
of variables including the weather, while city people will travel first
class on high speed fibre! Why don't you just come out and say that you
don't care about the speed and quality of service for country people? I
guess that honesty simply doesn't serve your political agenda, particularly
with an election coming on, huh?

The Optus proposal will provide broadband to 426 country exchanges whereas
the Telstra plan was going to reach over 1500 exchanges! So how come you
didn't mention that? And as you know, Optus is 100% owned by the Singaporean
government, so you have just them a huge financial leg up. Duh!

It's hard to see how you could have stuffed this up more even if you tried
and the tragedy is that it took the Govt of which you are a member, 11 years
to do it and then only because the Rudd Federal Opposition forced you to
actually make a decision.

Great work Senator! I hope you enjoy being in Opposition come December.
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"James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
news:46761971$0$22432$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Get it into you, fantastic news.
>
> WiMAX for the bush will blow Telstra's white elephant LastG network out of
> the water. ADSL2+ will be rolled out to long suffering country folk, as
> Telstra couldn't give a **** about Australia (even though all their
> regional exchange hardware could have ADSL2+ turned on at the flick of a
> switch).
>
> http://www.australianit.news.com.au/...-15306,00.html
>
> This network will be open for wholesale access as well.
>
> Regards,
> The counter-bell.




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Old 06-19-2007, 10:26 AM
atec 77
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Default Re: Optus/Elders - A Ridiculous Decision!

Cobber wrote:
> James, get your facts straight....
>
> Broadband Decision
> To: Helen (Senator) Coonan (senator.coonan@aph.gov.au)
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 9:31:40 AM
>
> Senator Helen Coonan - Minister for Communications
>
> Two years to roll out all of that broadband? That's absolute rubbish and you
> know it! You must think that there are a lot of dumb people out here. This
> ridiculous estimate will blow out dramatically as soon as the election is
> over.
>

The infrastructure is in the majority already there , are you aware
Optus is supply for much of the hardware ?
add some more feeds and radios and off they go with time to spare .
I was in Maryborough this very weekend connecting some people to the
wireless network there with excellent connection and telephone performace .

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Old 06-19-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Optus/Elders - A Ridiculous Decision!


"Cobber" <geoff7772001@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> James, get your facts straight....
>



Hear Hear!



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Old 06-20-2007, 12:14 AM
James Bell
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Default Re: Optus/Elders - A Ridiculous Decision!

Cobber wrote:
> James, get your facts straight....
>
> Broadband Decision
> To: Helen (Senator) Coonan (senator.coonan@aph.gov.au)
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 9:31:40 AM
>
> Senator Helen Coonan - Minister for Communications


Another email that will go straight to the bin.

> Two years to roll out all of that broadband? That's absolute rubbish and you
> know it! You must think that there are a lot of dumb people out here. This
> ridiculous estimate will blow out dramatically as soon as the election is
> over.


Actually. Optus have put in place a lot of the hardware, and rolling out
wireless doesn't take a lot of time. Two years is absolutely possible.

>
> And as for saddling country people with completely untried WiMax wireless
> technology - shame on you.


Eh? You call over rollouts in 100 different countries, and a successful
large scale roll out in Canada to do much the same thing we're going to
do here - called 'untested'?

The only people that sprout on about WiMAX being untested are either
****wits from 'Now we are talking' or the GSM camp.


> You have just abandoned a key constituency - the
> entire country population of Australia. Radio transmission is never as good
> as fixed line and you know it.


Tell that to all the people who Telstra is migrating over the the WLL
service. A good wireless connection will piss of a rotting copper line
any day.

> Just think of the difference in call quality
> between fixed line and mobile. Country people will end up with a
> considerably slower second rate service which will be affected by a number
> of variables including the weather, while city people will travel first
> class on high speed fibre!


Garbage. Rolling out fibre to the country is unfeasible. You willing to
pay the $15bn+ or so to cover only 70% of the population using Telstra's
rotting copper lines?

Ever heard of 'competition'?

> Why don't you just come out and say that you
> don't care about the speed and quality of service for country people?


What, 12mbps is 'not caring'?

You seriously are a terminal ****wit.

> I guess that honesty simply doesn't serve your political agenda, particularly
> with an election coming on, huh?


Like Ruddite not admitting he doesn't know what productivity is, or not
admitting that he's a pupped opposition led by the Unions?

> Great work Senator! I hope you enjoy being in Opposition come December.


She'll be back, and ****wits like you will be working in their to be
ununionised workshop no longer.

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