>
> 1GB now available on Next G "Telstra Prepaid Plus".
Forget my last pondering. I managed to get on to check the website.
30 days expiry.
Fuck that.
You're forced to pay for data that you may not use. Imagine if pre-paid
call credits lasted 30 days. The pre-paid SIM that I have sitting in the
desk drawer is good til Sept (I bought it for the dragon (MIL) when she
was here visiting. Didn't get much use, got about $50 on it.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Horry wrote...
>
>>
>> 1GB now available on Next G "Telstra Prepaid Plus".
>
> Forget my last pondering. I managed to get on to check the website.
>
> 30 days expiry.
Data packs are a monthly product, postpaid and prepaid
> Fuck that.
>
> You're forced to pay for data that you may not use. Imagine if pre-paid
> > 30 days expiry.
>
> Data packs are a monthly product, postpaid and prepaid
Stating the obvious again...
> > Fuck that.
> >
> > You're forced to pay for data that you may not use. Imagine if pre-paid
>
> Use PAYG then, and spend more
>
> Idiot
You call ME an idiot. Sort of like Rod Speed telling someone that he's
(that someone) is an offensive prick.
You training up to take over from him when Alzheimers finally takes hold
of the old goat?
Getting back to the issue, what is wrong with wanting a data pre-paid pack
that expires along the same timespan as the voice calls?
That is what I'd prefer. But as I am on post-paid and I rarely use the
data side of NextG I don't bother buying a data pack. And because PAYG is
so expensive I don't use it. Rather, I do, but I restrict it to the free
content at Bigpond.
> Getting back to the issue, what is wrong with wanting a data pre-paid pack
> that expires along the same timespan as the voice calls?
Nothing wrong with it, I'd also like free calls for the rest of my life, but
unlikely to get it.
> That is what I'd prefer. But as I am on post-paid and I rarely use the
> data side of NextG I don't bother buying a data pack. And because PAYG is
> so expensive I don't use it. Rather, I do, but I restrict it to the free
So buy a SMALLER data pack, not the largest one possible!
On Sun, 04 May 2008 21:50:27 +0000, Michael wrote:
>> Getting back to the issue, what is wrong with wanting a data pre-paid pack
>> that expires along the same timespan as the voice calls?
>
> Nothing wrong with it, I'd also like free calls for the rest of my life, but
> unlikely to get it.
>
>> That is what I'd prefer. But as I am on post-paid and I rarely use the
>> data side of NextG I don't bother buying a data pack. And because PAYG is
>> so expensive I don't use it. Rather, I do, but I restrict it to the free
>
> So buy a SMALLER data pack, not the largest one possible!
>
> Almost everyone will save cash with a data pack
We're talking about Browse Plus Packs, not data packs.
> > Getting back to the issue, what is wrong with wanting a data pre-paid pack
> > that expires along the same timespan as the voice calls?
>
> Nothing wrong with it, I'd also like free calls for the rest of my life, but
> unlikely to get it.
This isn't about getting something for free. This is asking why the
pre-paid data packs can't be sold along the same lines as the voice packs
as far as expiration goes.
If you think that this is unreasonable could you explain why?
> So buy a SMALLER data pack, not the largest one possible!
I don't buy either. Because I rarely use the data services I'd be paying
for something that I wouldn't use, except on the odd occasion. This is on
a post paid account, not a pre-paid, mind you.
> Almost everyone will save cash with a data pack
Eh? Since when is paying for something "saving" cash? The savings come
when you don't spend the money at all or use the services, which, as
Telstra is finding out, that most people don't do. Why? Because most
people think that the 3G services are too expensive, or too slow, or
difficult to use on a small screen mobile phone. This is particularly so
when most websites are designed for viewing on desktop/laptop displays.
NextG is great if you're using it for business purposes. But for
home/residential use it's a luxury that most of us can't justify.
Thing is, competitors such as 3 seem to be able to offer cheap data packs.
Why can't Telstra? Why? Because outside of the large metro areas it
effectively has no competition. And hence it will charge what it wants.
Look at the poor bastards in Tassie. Being reamed comprehensively because
Telstra can, and because Optus's parent which bought Basslink can't come
to an agreement to provide data services across the link.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> > Getting back to the issue, what is wrong with wanting a data pre-paid
>> > pack
>> > that expires along the same timespan as the voice calls?
>>
>> Nothing wrong with it, I'd also like free calls for the rest of my life,
>> but
>> unlikely to get it.
>
> This isn't about getting something for free. This is asking why the
> pre-paid data packs can't be sold along the same lines as the voice packs
> as far as expiration goes.
Prepaid data packs are the same as post paid data packs, they are charged
per month
Not hard to comprehend
Just like Foxtel on your mobile is sold "per month"
>> Almost everyone will save cash with a data pack
>
> Eh? Since when is paying for something "saving" cash? The savings come
If you are on PAYG, your data pack price is $0 and your data charges are (as
an example) $50. Total cost = $50
If you are on say a $5 data pack, and your data charges were, say $25 (with
excess data), then Total cost = $25.
See which one is cheaper.
Almost everyone benefits from a data pack
> Telstra is finding out, that most people don't do. Why? Because most
> people think that the 3G services are too expensive, or too slow, or
CYS - NextG is very fast
> NextG is great if you're using it for business purposes. But for
> home/residential use it's a luxury that most of us can't justify.
> Prepaid data packs are the same as post paid data packs, they are charged
> per month
>
> Not hard to comprehend
Except that you're failing miserably in what we're talking about - not the
cost comparisons but how the expiration policy for pre-paid data packs
work compared to that for voice pre-paid packs or whatever they're called.
> Just like Foxtel on your mobile is sold "per month"
Totally different kettle of fish. We're talking about pre=paid data, not
some bullshit gimmick that's inherently worthless in itself.
> > Eh? Since when is paying for something "saving" cash? The savings come
>
> If you are on PAYG, your data pack price is $0 and your data charges are (as
> an example) $50. Total cost = $50
Woosh...
> > Telstra is finding out, that most people don't do. Why? Because most
> > people think that the 3G services are too expensive, or too slow, or
>
> CYS - NextG is very fast
CYS?
> > NextG is great if you're using it for business purposes. But for
> > home/residential use it's a luxury that most of us can't justify.
>
> Unless you are a pov, anyone can afford it
Depends on your definition of "afford", I s'pose.
Fact remains that very few people who own mobiles for personal use make
use of the 3G or NextG services, other than say, for MMS'ing. And cost is
only one factor.
> Fuck those "poor bastards". If anything, they need to start paying the true
> cost of their services.
You're not a very nice person, are you?
If Telstra can make a regular annual profit that goes into billions, then
it's safe to assume that everyone who has a service of any kind with
Telstra is paying the "true cost" and then some.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> Prepaid data packs are the same as post paid data packs, they are charged
>> per month
>>
>> Not hard to comprehend
>
> Except that you're failing miserably in what we're talking about - not the
> cost comparisons but how the expiration policy for pre-paid data packs
> work compared to that for voice pre-paid packs or whatever they're called.
Data packs are a montly product, always have been, and always will be. So
why would you expect the CED (credit expiry date) of your data pack to be
anything other than monthly?
>> Just like Foxtel on your mobile is sold "per month"
>
> Totally different kettle of fish.
Exactly the same. It's a monthly VAS like your data pack
>> > Telstra is finding out, that most people don't do. Why? Because most
>> > people think that the 3G services are too expensive, or too slow, or
>>
>> CYS - NextG is very fast
>
> CYS?
Check Your Settings - your phone is fucked if NextG is slow.
> Fact remains that very few people who own mobiles for personal use make
> use of the 3G or NextG services, other than say, for MMS'ing. And cost is
>> Fuck those "poor bastards". If anything, they need to start paying the
>> true
>> cost of their services.
>
> You're not a very nice person, are you?
Like it or lump it.
> If Telstra can make a regular annual profit that goes into billions, then
> it's safe to assume that everyone who has a service of any kind with
> Telstra is paying the "true cost" and then some.
You missed the point, whoosh-head.
Line rental for urban customers should be DROPPED, whilst line rental for
country bumpkins should be RAISED, to achieve the same revenue base.
Exactly what happened with $11.65 line rental and 25c local calls ten years
ago. Line rental went up, and calls went down. A local call is 22c now,
compared to 25c years ago.
>
>
On Sat, 10 May 2008 03:36:37 GMT "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Exactly what happened with $11.65 line rental and 25c local calls ten
> years ago. Line rental went up, and calls went down. A local call is
> 22c now, compared to 25c years ago.
Competition wouldn't have been the cause by any chance?
> >> CYS - NextG is very fast
> >
> > CYS?
>
> Check Your Settings - your phone is fucked if NextG is slow.
I have. Settings are correct. NextG is slow. And none of your bullshit "spin"
will fix that.
> > Fact remains that very few people who own mobiles for personal use make
> > use of the 3G or NextG services, other than say, for MMS'ing. And cost is
>
> Bullshit. MOST do.
References? Certainly, an article in the papers the other day suggests
otherwise.
"Polly the Parrot" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 May 2008 03:36:37 GMT "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly what happened with $11.65 line rental and 25c local calls ten
>> years ago. Line rental went up, and calls went down. A local call is
>> 22c now, compared to 25c years ago.
>
> Competition wouldn't have been the cause by any chance?
Competition changed line rental for $11.65 to $30 in about 7-10 years????
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> >> CYS - NextG is very fast
>> >
>> > CYS?
>>
>> Check Your Settings - your phone is fucked if NextG is slow.
>
> I have. Settings are correct. NextG is slow. And none of your bullshit
> "spin"
> will fix that.
Works fine for everyone I know. Get your phone repaired or replaced
>> > Fact remains that very few people who own mobiles for personal use make
>> > use of the 3G or NextG services, other than say, for MMS'ing. And cost
>> > is
>>
>> Bullshit. MOST do.
>
> References? Certainly, an article in the papers the other day suggests
> otherwise.
Its just people who cant CYS who dont make use of the 3G services
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Polly the Parrot <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Exactly what happened with $11.65 line rental and 25c local calls ten years ago. Line rental went up, and calls went
>>> down. A local call is 22c now, compared to 25c years ago.
>> Competition wouldn't have been the cause by any chance?
> Competition changed line rental for $11.65 to $30 in about 7-10 years????
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Polly the Parrot <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>>>> Exactly what happened with $11.65 line rental and 25c local calls ten
>>>> years ago. Line rental went up, and calls went down. A local call is
>>>> 22c now, compared to 25c years ago.
>
>>> Competition wouldn't have been the cause by any chance?
>
>> Competition changed line rental for $11.65 to $30 in about 7-10 years????
>
> Nope, the lack of competition is what did that.
We've had heaps of competition in line rental over the years.
Cost rebalancing (approved by the ACCC) is what cuased line rental to go
from 11.65 to 30, with calls dropping from 25 to 22c, over 7-10 years
In the last 2 years or so, line rental hasnt moved
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Polly the Parrot <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> Exactly what happened with $11.65 line rental and 25c local calls
>>>>> ten years ago. Line rental went up, and calls went down. A local
>>>>> call is 22c now, compared to 25c years ago.
>>>> Competition wouldn't have been the cause by any chance?
>>> Competition changed line rental for $11.65 to $30 in about 7-10 years????
>> Nope, the lack of competition is what did that.
> We've had heaps of competition in line rental over the years.
Pig ignorant lie. There was no competition in line rent when resellers
got shafted by telstra with that tippling in the line rent they paid telstra,
you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> Cost rebalancing (approved by the ACCC) is what cuased line rental to
> go from 11.65 to 30, with calls dropping from 25 to 22c, over 7-10 years
Irrelevant to whether there was any real competition on the
line rent, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> In the last 2 years or so, line rental hasnt moved
>>>>>> Exactly what happened with $11.65 line rental and 25c local calls
>>>>>> ten years ago. Line rental went up, and calls went down. A local
>>>>>> call is 22c now, compared to 25c years ago.
>
>>>>> Competition wouldn't have been the cause by any chance?
>
>>>> Competition changed line rental for $11.65 to $30 in about 7-10
>>>> years????
>
>>> Nope, the lack of competition is what did that.
>
>> We've had heaps of competition in line rental over the years.
>
> Pig ignorant lie. There was no competition in line rent when resellers
Clearly there was competition given the fact that you just claimed there was
a reseller
>> Cost rebalancing (approved by the ACCC) is what cuased line rental to
>> go from 11.65 to 30, with calls dropping from 25 to 22c, over 7-10 years
>
> Irrelevant to whether there was any real competition on the
> line rent, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
See above
>> In the last 2 years or so, line rental hasnt moved
>
> Another pig ignorant lie.
>>>>>>> Exactly what happened with $11.65 line rental and 25c local
>>>>>>> calls ten years ago. Line rental went up, and calls went down.
>>>>>>> A local call is 22c now, compared to 25c years ago.
>>>>>> Competition wouldn't have been the cause by any chance?
>>>>> Competition changed line rental for $11.65 to $30 in about 7-10 years????
>>>> Nope, the lack of competition is what did that.
>>> We've had heaps of competition in line rental over the years.
>> Pig ignorant lie. There was no competition in line rent when resellers got shafted by telstra with that tippling in
>> the line rent they paid telstra,
>> you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> Clearly there was competition given the fact that you just claimed there was a reseller
Pig ignorant lie. There was no competition in line rent when resellers
got shafted by telstra with that tippling in the line rent they paid telstra,
you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
>>> Cost rebalancing (approved by the ACCC) is what cuased line rental to go from 11.65 to 30, with calls dropping from
>>> 25 to 22c, over 7-10 years
>> Irrelevant to whether there was any real competition on the
>> line rent, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
> See above
Completely useless, as always with your pig ignorant
shit, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning fuckwit child.
>>> In the last 2 years or so, line rental hasnt moved
>> Another pig ignorant lie.
> Mine hasnt moved.
You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.
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