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Old 09-21-2007, 06:29 AM
Alan Parkington
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Default Say goodbye to CDMA, say hello to Next G wireless broadband

In flyers being sent out with the AGM Notice of Meeting, Telstra is letting
its 1.5 million shareholders know it is on track to close down the ageing
CDMA network on 28 January 2008, and Government intervention in the process
is unnecessary.

Telstra is committed to closing down the CMDA network only after the new
Next GT wireless broadband network can provide the guaranteed coverage that
is the same or better than the coverage guaranteed by the old CDMA network.

In spite of Telstra's firm guarantee, the Federal Government has decided
impose a licence condition that requires Telstra to do exactly what it has
already promised - which is to guarantee that consumers have the same or
better coverage than CDMA.

Telstra says the the Government's approach just creates additional red tape
and compliance costs for Telstra shareholders, fosters uncertainty in the
marketplace, and wastes taxpayers' money.



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Old 09-21-2007, 07:15 AM
Rod Speed
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Alan Parkington <aparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote:

> In flyers being sent out with the AGM Notice of Meeting, Telstra is letting its 1.5 million shareholders know it is on
> track to close
> down the ageing CDMA network on 28 January 2008,


Just more telstra lies. And it aint 'ageing', they just want to shaft
those who were stupid enough to sign up with telstra for a system
that telstra has a monopoly on and can shaft them like that.

> and Government intervention in the process is unnecessary.


If that was actually true, why are they howling ?

No one is actually gunna buy that lie.

> Telstra is committed to closing down the CMDA network only after the new Next GT wireless broadband network can
> provide the guaranteed coverage that is the same or better than the coverage guaranteed by the old CDMA network.


And the govt aint about to let them decide whether that is true or not.

Cant imagine why for the life of me.

> In spite of Telstra's firm guarantee,


Which the govt clearly doesnt believe.

Cant imagine why for the life of me.

> the Federal Government has decided impose a licence condition that requires Telstra to do exactly what it has already
> promised - which is to guarantee that consumers have the same or better coverage than CDMA.


But they aint actually stupid enough to let telstra decide if that has happened.

Cant imagine why for the life of me.

> Telstra says the the Government's approach just creates additional
> red tape and compliance costs for Telstra shareholders, fosters
> uncertainty in the marketplace, and wastes taxpayers' money.


Thats what you get when you lose a stoush that you cant possible win with the govt, ****wits.

Like it or lump it or **** off back where you came from and take your NextG abortion with you.



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Old 09-21-2007, 09:34 AM
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"Alan Parkington" <aparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote in message
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> In flyers being sent out with the AGM Notice of Meeting, Telstra is
> letting its 1.5 million shareholders know it is on track <blah blah>


1.5 million flyers. More money down the drain that could have been used to
assist with upgrades, or paid to shareholders as dividends.
Good one Telstra, you useless pack of ****wits.

--
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:54 AM
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Rod,

I rarely agree with you, but Sol and friends will be responsible for the
loss of Telstra's licence in the end. All shareholders, employees and
customers should unite to get rid of these ****wits.

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5lh5scF89l5hU1@mid.individual.net...
> Alan Parkington <aparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>
>> In flyers being sent out with the AGM Notice of Meeting, Telstra is
>> letting its 1.5 million shareholders know it is on track to close
>> down the ageing CDMA network on 28 January 2008,

>
> Just more telstra lies. And it aint 'ageing', they just want to shaft
> those who were stupid enough to sign up with telstra for a system
> that telstra has a monopoly on and can shaft them like that.
>
>> and Government intervention in the process is unnecessary.

>
> If that was actually true, why are they howling ?
>
> No one is actually gunna buy that lie.
>
>> Telstra is committed to closing down the CMDA network only after the new
>> Next GT wireless broadband network can provide the guaranteed coverage
>> that is the same or better than the coverage guaranteed by the old CDMA
>> network.

>
> And the govt aint about to let them decide whether that is true or not.
>
> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>
>> In spite of Telstra's firm guarantee,

>
> Which the govt clearly doesnt believe.
>
> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>
>> the Federal Government has decided impose a licence condition that
>> requires Telstra to do exactly what it has already promised - which is to
>> guarantee that consumers have the same or better coverage than CDMA.

>
> But they aint actually stupid enough to let telstra decide if that has
> happened.
>
> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>
>> Telstra says the the Government's approach just creates additional
>> red tape and compliance costs for Telstra shareholders, fosters
>> uncertainty in the marketplace, and wastes taxpayers' money.

>
> Thats what you get when you lose a stoush that you cant possible win with
> the govt, ****wits.
>
> Like it or lump it or **** off back where you came from and take your
> NextG abortion with you.
>




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Old 09-23-2007, 10:38 AM
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ARRRRRGH wrote:
> Rod,
>
> I rarely agree with you, but Sol and friends will be responsible for the
> loss of Telstra's licence in the end. All shareholders, employees and
> customers should unite to get rid of these ****wits.


Sol and friends don't give a **** about Tel$tra or Australia. They are
gutting Tel$tra and taking what they can before it goes under and they
return to where they came from!


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

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Old 09-23-2007, 10:55 AM
Rod Speed
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ARRRRRGH <noyfb@hotmail.com> wrote

> Rod,


> I rarely agree with you,


That didnt last long |-)

> but Sol and friends will be responsible for the loss of Telstra's licence in the end.


I doubt it. Even McGauchie aint actually THAT stupid.

> All shareholders, employees and customers should unite to get rid of these ****wits.


Sure, they should get the bums rush, right back where they came from.

McGauchie should go with them.


> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5lh5scF89l5hU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Alan Parkington <aparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In flyers being sent out with the AGM Notice of Meeting, Telstra is
>>> letting its 1.5 million shareholders know it is on track to close
>>> down the ageing CDMA network on 28 January 2008,

>>
>> Just more telstra lies. And it aint 'ageing', they just want to shaft
>> those who were stupid enough to sign up with telstra for a system
>> that telstra has a monopoly on and can shaft them like that.
>>
>>> and Government intervention in the process is unnecessary.

>>
>> If that was actually true, why are they howling ?
>>
>> No one is actually gunna buy that lie.
>>
>>> Telstra is committed to closing down the CMDA network only after
>>> the new Next GT wireless broadband network can provide the
>>> guaranteed coverage that is the same or better than the coverage
>>> guaranteed by the old CDMA network.

>>
>> And the govt aint about to let them decide whether that is true or
>> not. Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>>
>>> In spite of Telstra's firm guarantee,

>>
>> Which the govt clearly doesnt believe.
>>
>> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>>
>>> the Federal Government has decided impose a licence condition that
>>> requires Telstra to do exactly what it has already promised - which
>>> is to guarantee that consumers have the same or better coverage
>>> than CDMA.

>>
>> But they aint actually stupid enough to let telstra decide if that
>> has happened.
>>
>> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>>
>>> Telstra says the the Government's approach just creates additional
>>> red tape and compliance costs for Telstra shareholders, fosters
>>> uncertainty in the marketplace, and wastes taxpayers' money.

>>
>> Thats what you get when you lose a stoush that you cant possible win
>> with the govt, ****wits.
>>
>> Like it or lump it or **** off back where you came from and take your
>> NextG abortion with you.




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Old 09-23-2007, 10:59 AM
Rod Speed
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Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote
> ARRRRRGH wrote


>> Rod,


>> I rarely agree with you, but Sol and friends will be responsible for the loss of Telstra's licence in the end. All
>> shareholders,
>> employees and customers should unite to get rid of these ****wits.


> Sol and friends don't give a **** about Tel$tra or Australia.


They're actually so stupid that they dont have a clue about the damage they are doing.

The stupid Mex has done the same thing, time after time after time.

There's a reason it ended up having to take what it could get here.

> They are gutting Tel$tra and taking what they can before it goes under


Even they cant gut telstra.

> and they return to where they came from!


Sure, they'll eventually get the bums rush, just like the stupid mex has got repeatedly already.

That fool McGauchie should be strung up by the shareholders.



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Old 09-23-2007, 12:38 PM
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"ARRRRRGH" <noyfb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Rod,
>
> I rarely agree with you, but Sol and friends will be responsible for the
> loss of Telstra's licence in the end. All shareholders, employees and
> customers should unite to get rid of these ****wits.


Sol will be responsible for whatever happens. Either make or break

>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5lh5scF89l5hU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Alan Parkington <aparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In flyers being sent out with the AGM Notice of Meeting, Telstra is
>>> letting its 1.5 million shareholders know it is on track to close
>>> down the ageing CDMA network on 28 January 2008,

>>
>> Just more telstra lies. And it aint 'ageing', they just want to shaft
>> those who were stupid enough to sign up with telstra for a system
>> that telstra has a monopoly on and can shaft them like that.
>>
>>> and Government intervention in the process is unnecessary.

>>
>> If that was actually true, why are they howling ?
>>
>> No one is actually gunna buy that lie.
>>
>>> Telstra is committed to closing down the CMDA network only after the new
>>> Next GT wireless broadband network can provide the guaranteed coverage
>>> that is the same or better than the coverage guaranteed by the old CDMA
>>> network.

>>
>> And the govt aint about to let them decide whether that is true or not.
>>
>> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>>
>>> In spite of Telstra's firm guarantee,

>>
>> Which the govt clearly doesnt believe.
>>
>> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>>
>>> the Federal Government has decided impose a licence condition that
>>> requires Telstra to do exactly what it has already promised - which is
>>> to guarantee that consumers have the same or better coverage than CDMA.

>>
>> But they aint actually stupid enough to let telstra decide if that has
>> happened.
>>
>> Cant imagine why for the life of me.
>>
>>> Telstra says the the Government's approach just creates additional
>>> red tape and compliance costs for Telstra shareholders, fosters
>>> uncertainty in the marketplace, and wastes taxpayers' money.

>>
>> Thats what you get when you lose a stoush that you cant possible win with
>> the govt, ****wits.
>>
>> Like it or lump it or **** off back where you came from and take your
>> NextG abortion with you.
>>

>
>




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Old 09-23-2007, 01:18 PM
Alan Parkington
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Sol and friends don't give a **** about Tel$tra or Australia.

>
> They're actually so stupid that they dont have a clue about the damage
> they are doing.
>

So you "care" about Australia by supporting a foreign government via Optus?
That is really helpful, speedy..


> The stupid Mex has done the same thing, time after time after time.

Rubbish. Provide proof of this..

>
> Even they cant gut telstra.

They have made it a better company.

>
>> and they return to where they came from!

>
> Sure, they'll eventually get the bums rush, just like the stupid mex has
> got repeatedly already.
>
> That fool McGauchie should be strung up by the shareholders.

You're just jealous because the best you could manage was a PMG deliveryboy,
until you fell of your red bike. Been on compo since..



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Old 09-23-2007, 04:39 PM
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"Alan Parkington" <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5lmrncF8oaaaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>> Sol and friends don't give a **** about Tel$tra or Australia.

>>
>> They're actually so stupid that they dont have a clue about the damage
>> they are doing.
>>

> So you "care" about Australia by supporting a foreign government via
> Optus?
> That is really helpful, speedy..


And you 'care' about Australia by supporting a foreigner that is doing his
best to dismantle and discredit one of Australia's largest employers?

>
>> The stupid Mex has done the same thing, time after time after time.

> Rubbish. Provide proof of this..


http://news.sbs.com.au/dateline/inde...eadlineid=1184

"Just over two years after Sol Trujillo took over at Graviton, the company
had burnt through nearly all its money and was heading for collapse"

"In mid-1999 the commission initiated proceedings investigating whether the
company was in breach of its service obligations. The period of
investigation covered 16 months, from January 1998 through April 1999 - a
period when Sol Trujillo was CEO and chairman of US West. The commission's
own staff testified that at a time when demand for phone services was
booming, US West investment in plant and equipment was declining."

"They remember Sol Trujillo in Oregon as well. In particular, I'm interested
in what they remember in rural areas. I reach Oakridge, where Sue Bond is
the Mayor.
SUE BOND, MAYOR OF OAKRIDGE: We had very poor service. Our service was out
20% percent of the time at least, more in the winter. The lines were poor,
the connections were poor. Lot of static on the lines. "

"his promises to invest in infrastructure from 1995 to 1999 and make service
better and instead it continued to deteriorate. "

"I think what he did was to dramatically cut back on the amount of money
spent serving customers "

"the US West board, under the chairmanship of Sol Trujillo, moved the
dividend date of record back by a week and a half to July 10. This meant the
dividend, totalling $270 million, was never paid (to shareholders) because
by that time, US West no longer existed. "

"In that situation the shareholders didn't get their 53 cents per share but
Sol Trujillo walked out with $70 million. Coincidentally, the law suit that
affected the rights of ten thousands of people was settled for $50 million.
So they've got to divvy up $50 million, whereas one man walks away with over
$70 million. That's not right. "

And then there's this:
http://apcmag.com/6160/the_wiggles_m..._reader_survey

He only just beat David Hicks and Sheik al-Hilali in the 'who would you
trust' stakes.


>>
>> Even they cant gut telstra.

> They have made it a better company.


The share price doesn't reflect that claim.
Maybe if he concentrated on running the company and supporting Telstra's
customers (i.e Doing his ****ing job), rather than pointlessly attacking the
government and the ACCC, the share price might be doing a bit better.....

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Old 09-23-2007, 07:10 PM
Rod Speed
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Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote


>>> Sol and friends don't give a **** about Tel$tra or Australia.


>> They're actually so stupid that they dont have a clue about the damage they are doing.


> So you "care" about Australia by supporting a foreign government via Optus?


Yep, if thats what it takes to get a decent satellite service and to
provide real competition to those yank arseholes 'running' telstra
who are choosing to shaft the country on FTTN etc etc etc.

The LAST thing the govt should be doing is to be stupid enough to give telstra
even more of a monopoly than it already has with wholesale broadband.

> That is really helpful, speedy..


Corse it is, ****wit.

>> The stupid Mex has done the same thing, time after time after time.


> Rubbish. Provide proof of this..


Go and **** youself. Have a look at his record in every single one of
the operations he ****ed up completely before he showed up here.

Every single one involved a pointless stoush with the
regulatory authoritys, as he drove it into the ground.

>> Even they cant gut telstra.


> They have made it a better company.


Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

In spades with completely ****ing up telstra/govt relations so that the
govt takes every opportunity to **** telstra over now, most obviously with
making an obscene gesture in telstra's general direction by awarding the
contract for regional and rural broadband to Opel, imposing the license
condition on the shutting of the cdma service, and the new capital city
broadband where they will **** telstra over even more enthusiastically, you watch.

Even Labor will do that if the voters are actually stupid enough to elect them too.

>>> and they return to where they came from!


>> Sure, they'll eventually get the bums rush, just like the stupid mex has got repeatedly already.


>> That fool McGauchie should be strung up by the shareholders.


<reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>



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Old 09-23-2007, 08:34 PM
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Alan Parkington wrote:
> So you "care" about Australia by supporting a foreign government via Optus?
> That is really helpful, speedy..


This would have to be the lamest excuse out! Don't give me this crap
about Optarse and revenue going off shore, Sol and his mate's are taking
as much as they can out of Tel$tra and putting it offshore before they
completely **** the company and bolt back to the US!

The Government should have kept Tel$tra and made it infrastructure only
and NEVER deal with the public again. Resellers could have created the
competition. Too late now, that will never happen and as a result we
are the laughing stock of the world when it comes to Telecommunications
and the Internet.


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

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Old 09-23-2007, 08:37 PM
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Michael wrote:
> Sol will be responsible for whatever happens. Either make or break


His track record indicates that he will break it and **** off back to
the US with all the money!


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

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Old 09-23-2007, 10:13 PM
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Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote
> Alan Parkington wrote


>> So you "care" about Australia by supporting a foreign government via Optus? That is really helpful, speedy..


> This would have to be the lamest excuse out!


We in fact got rid of a sink for out taxes when we got rid of the satellites to Optarse.

> Don't give me this crap about Optarse and revenue going off shore,


Not that much revenue goes offshore in that case.

> Sol and his mate's are taking as much as they can out of Tel$tra and putting it offshore


Thats peanuts too.

> before they completely **** the company


Even they cant **** telstra.

The most they can do is **** the relations between telstra and the govt.

> and bolt back to the US!


I doubt the US will have those clowns any decade soon employment wise.

> The Government should have kept Tel$tra and made it infrastructure only


No thanks, thats never worked anywhere in the entire world.

> and NEVER deal with the public again. Resellers could have created the competition.


Pity that there would have been no competition with the infrastructure, just where the problem lies.

> Too late now, that will never happen


Correct.

> and as a result we are the laughing stock of the world when it comes to Telecommunications and the Internet.


Mindlessly silly. The mobile system here leaves that in the US for dead.

The internet is comparable to what the rest of the first world has.

The only real exception is tiny little pimple of countrys which have
a MUCH higher population density than we do where fibre to the
home is economically feasible when the govt has paid for it.



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Old 09-23-2007, 10:14 PM
Rod Speed
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Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote
> Michael wrote


>> Sol will be responsible for whatever happens. Either make or break


> His track record indicates that he will break it


Even the mex cant break telstra, you watch.

The most he can break is govt relations.

> and **** off back to the US with all the money!


He cant do that either.



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Old 09-24-2007, 12:41 AM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>
>>>> Sol and friends don't give a **** about Tel$tra or Australia.

>
>>> They're actually so stupid that they dont have a clue about the damage
>>> they are doing.

>
>> So you "care" about Australia by supporting a foreign government via
>> Optus?

>
> Yep, if thats what it takes to get a decent satellite service and to
> provide real competition to those yank arseholes 'running' telstra
> who are choosing to shaft the country on FTTN etc etc etc.
>
> The LAST thing the govt should be doing is to be stupid enough to give
> telstra
> even more of a monopoly than it already has with wholesale broadband.
>
>> That is really helpful, speedy..

>
> Corse it is, ****wit.
>
>>> The stupid Mex has done the same thing, time after time after time.

>
>> Rubbish. Provide proof of this..

>
> Go and **** youself. Have a look at his record in every single one of
> the operations he ****ed up completely before he showed up here.
>
> Every single one involved a pointless stoush with the
> regulatory authoritys,


Except for the cases where his relationship with the regulator was thought
to be a little too 'cozy'.

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Old 09-24-2007, 12:51 AM
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Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5lnoglF93h4kU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>
>>>>> Sol and friends don't give a **** about Tel$tra or Australia.

>>
>>>> They're actually so stupid that they dont have a clue about the
>>>> damage they are doing.

>>
>>> So you "care" about Australia by supporting a foreign government via
>>> Optus?

>>
>> Yep, if thats what it takes to get a decent satellite service and to
>> provide real competition to those yank arseholes 'running' telstra
>> who are choosing to shaft the country on FTTN etc etc etc.
>>
>> The LAST thing the govt should be doing is to be stupid enough to
>> give telstra
>> even more of a monopoly than it already has with wholesale broadband.
>>
>>> That is really helpful, speedy..

>>
>> Corse it is, ****wit.
>>
>>>> The stupid Mex has done the same thing, time after time after time.

>>
>>> Rubbish. Provide proof of this..

>>
>> Go and **** youself. Have a look at his record in every single one of
>> the operations he ****ed up completely before he showed up here.
>>
>> Every single one involved a pointless stoush with the
>> regulatory authoritys,

>
> Except for the cases where his relationship with the regulator was
> thought to be a little too 'cozy'.


There's been **** all of those.



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Old 09-24-2007, 09:25 AM
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"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Every single one involved a pointless stoush with the
>> regulatory authoritys,



Yes, Sol has had run-ins with politicians. But to be honest, he has only had
them because he fights for Telstra at every opportunity. After all, that is
the job that shareholders expect of him. If anything, he is guilty of caring
too much.



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Old 09-24-2007, 09:49 AM
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:18:19 +0000, Alan Parkington wrote:

> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5lmrncF8oaaaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>> Sol and friends don't give a **** about Tel$tra or Australia.

>>
>> They're actually so stupid that they dont have a clue about the damage
>> they are doing.
>>

> So you "care" about Australia by supporting a foreign government via
> Optus? That is really helpful, speedy..


Where does Tel$cum get it's equipment from and the phones it sells? All
Australian made?

And the seppos clearly don't care about Australia - or Tel$cum, for that
matter!

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Old 09-24-2007, 10:15 AM
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Alan Parkington wrote:

> Yes, Sol has had run-ins with politicians. But to be honest,
> he has only had them because he fights for Telstra at every
> opportunity. After all, that is the job that shareholders
> expect of him. If anything, he is guilty of caring too much.


Being American, he's obviously got no idea about the importance
of caring for customers and staff in order to build shareholder
value.

John


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Old 09-24-2007, 10:36 AM
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:25:48 +0000, Alan Parkington wrote:

> "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
> news:46f6f99f$0$4541$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>
>>> Every single one involved a pointless stoush with the regulatory
>>> authoritys,

>
>
> Yes, Sol has had run-ins with politicians. But to be honest, he has only
> had them because he fights for Telstra at every opportunity. After all,
> that is the job that shareholders expect of him. If anything, he is
> guilty of caring too much.


You wearing brown lipstick again? Or is that something else around your
mouth?

My arse the seppo fights for Tel$cum at any opportunity. He takes any
opportunity to start a pointless fight that he can't win and which
ultimately does damage to Tel$cum.

He's like one of those morons you don't want to go to the pub with,
because he's guaranteed to pick a fight - and you're likely to get a fist
in your face because of him.

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Old 09-24-2007, 07:10 PM
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Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote


>> Every single one involved a pointless stoush with the regulatory authoritys,


> Yes, Sol has had run-ins with politicians.


And ended up getting the bums rush from every single one.

There might just be a reason why he ended up here, ****wit.

> But to be honest, he has only had them because he fights for Telstra at every opportunity.


Pity that he's so stupid that he cant manage to work
out that he cant possibly win a stoush with the govt.

> After all, that is the job that shareholders expect of him.


Pigs arse it is when he ends up losing every single stoush with the govt.

> If anything, he is guilty of caring too much.


Pity that he's so stupid that he cant manage to work
out that he cant possibly win a stoush with the govt.

And too stupid to even be able to work out what
the situation is here before he accepted the job.

Corse he was desperate after he had got the bums rush from
everywhere else and will get the bums rush from here too, you watch.

In spades if the voters are actually stupid enough to elect Rudd and
fools like Tanner get to use the govt shareholding in Telstra to get rid
of McGauchie and the stupid yanks he was stupid enough to import.



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Old 09-24-2007, 11:45 PM
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"Craig Welch" <craig@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
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> But in any case, is it your argument that no Australian company should buy
> services from a foreign entity?
>
> Further, do you argue that no foreign entity should buy services or
> products from Australian companies?
>



Not always.. but where available, we should buy local products first.

1, Australia made & owned
2. Australia made or owned

I like to buy my kids a job. Unfortunately it seems this country will soon
be just a branch office of some foreign power.



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Old 09-25-2007, 03:48 AM
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Alan Parkington wrote:
> I like to buy my kids a job.


Corruption at it's best, sling some prick money just to get your kids
out of your hair and they 'think' they have a job!


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:25 AM
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"Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
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> Alan Parkington wrote:
>> I like to buy my kids a job.

>
> Corruption at it's best, sling some prick money just to get your kids out
> of your hair and they 'think' they have a job!
>


Look at it this way, Simon. How many other successful countries sell off
their national assets?.. None.



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Old 09-25-2007, 05:46 AM
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Alan Parkington wrote:
> Look at it this way, Simon. How many other successful countries sell off
> their national assets?.. None.


Well I agree Tel$tra should NEVER have been sold off. I would have
preferred to have seen it become Wholesale only, be responsible for a
single infrastructure Australia wide and NEVER deal direct with the
public again. Unfortunately it will NEVER happen.

The current situation we have for mobile and broadband infrastructure is
hopeless and only encourages companies to set up where they can make the
most money and screw the rest of the country. Tel$tra is just as guilty
as all the others when it comes to this, with all their exchanges
capable of ADSL2+ but refusing to enable them because they don't want to
be told to wholesale ADSL2+!

As for your argument of keeping money here in Australia, it is total
CRAP because Sol and his mates are stripping as much as they can from
Tel$tra and putting it in their US bank accounts.


--
The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I may
belong to.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

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Old 09-25-2007, 07:00 AM
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Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote
> Craig Welch <craig@pacific.net.sg> wrote


>> But in any case, is it your argument that no Australian company should buy services from a foreign entity?


>> Further, do you argue that no foreign entity should buy services or products from Australian companies?


> Not always.. but where available, we should buy local products first.


Even telstra aint actually that stupid.

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that they have employed some ****wit yanks.

> 1, Australia made & owned
> 2. Australia made or owned


Tell telstra.

> I like to buy my kids a job.


There's no shortage of jobs with an unemployment rate of 4.x%

It makes a hell of a lot more sense to have real competition
because that makes telstra deliver decent prices etc.

> Unfortunately it seems this country will soon be just a branch office of some foreign power.


Not a ****ing clue, as always.

And even someone as stupid as you should have
noticed that telstra has employed some ****wit yanks.

Do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside corporate HQ or sumfin.



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Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote
> Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote
>> Alan Parkington wrote


>>> I like to buy my kids a job.


>> Corruption at it's best, sling some prick money just to get your kids out of your hair and they 'think' they have a
>> job!


> Look at it this way, Simon. How many other successful countries sell off their national assets?..


Some werent actually stupid enough to have a govt owned telecoms monopoly in the first place.

> None.


Pig ignorant bare faced lie. The vast bulk of modern first world
countrys that used to have a national govt telco have flogged that off.



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Old 09-25-2007, 07:07 AM
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Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote
> Alan Parkington wrote


>> Look at it this way, Simon. How many other successful countries sell off their national assets?.. None.


> Well I agree Tel$tra should NEVER have been sold off.


More fool you.

> I would have preferred to have seen it become Wholesale only, be responsible for a single infrastructure Australia
> wide and NEVER deal direct with the public again.


You cant list even a single country thats done it that way.

There might just be a reason for that.

> Unfortunately it will NEVER happen.


Yep, even labor aint actually THAT stupid.

The only reason they didnt flog telecom off
was because the unions wouldnt let them.

> The current situation we have for mobile and broadband infrastructure is hopeless


Not a ****ing clue, as always.

> and only encourages companies to set up where they can
> make the most money and screw the rest of the country.


Have fun explaining how come telstra drove down the price of
the lowest price adsl to levels it had not been seen previously.

> Tel$tra is just as guilty as all the others when it comes to this, with all their exchanges capable of ADSL2+


No they arent.

> but refusing to enable them because they don't want to be told to wholesale ADSL2+!


Thats just the stupid ****wit yanks.

> As for your argument of keeping money here in Australia, it is total CRAP because Sol and his mates are stripping as
> much as they can from Tel$tra and putting it in their US bank accounts.


Its peanuts in telstra's total cash flow.



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Old 09-26-2007, 10:24 AM
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:25:04 +0000, Alan Parkington wrote:

> "Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
> news:5lrb70F9kd72U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Alan Parkington wrote:
>>> I like to buy my kids a job.

>>
>> Corruption at it's best, sling some prick money just to get your kids
>> out of your hair and they 'think' they have a job!
>>
>>

> Look at it this way, Simon. How many other successful countries sell off
> their national assets?.. None.


Australia isn't and never has been a "successful" country, in that case.
Because the entire economy of this country is based on digging assets out
of the ground and selling them overseas, or cutting down assets from the
forests and selling them overseas, or running sheep or cattle on the
assets (and trashing them in the process usually) and selling them
overseas.

Australia's the only banana republic with a queen!

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