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Old 12-13-2007, 10:05 AM
Michael
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Default Re: Telstra criticises G9


"Marts" <marts_57@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> > If Telstra loses the monopoly, who would you give it to?

>>
>> There isnt any monopoly at all currently, not as long as you have Optus
>> HFC
>> and any kind of wirelesss service

>
> I'm talking about the land based copper network, not wireless or other
> services
> that ostensibly could "compete" with Telstra's landline network.


Optus HFC is a land based local loop. Who cares that the line is composed of
copper (or aluminium)?

> True competition would be where I could use say, NextG or some other
> provider's
> wireless services for the same cost as I do for my home phone line. Right
> now,


True competition does not necessarily involve price competition




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Old 12-13-2007, 06:31 PM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Marts <marts_57@yahoo.com.au> wrote
>>>> Kwyjibo wrote


>>>>> That's precisely the reason the copper monopoly should be taken from Telstra.


>>>> If Telstra loses the monopoly, who would you give it to?


>>> There isnt any monopoly at all currently,


>> There is with copper, you flagrantly dishonest dunny cleaning fuckwit child.


> You moron.


You flagrantly dishonest dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

> As if anyone cares what element the line itself is composed of


Someone commenting on the copper monopoly clearly does,
you flagrantly dishonest dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

>>> not as long as you have Optus HFC and any kind of wirelesss service


>> Neither of those are copper, you flagrantly dishonest dunny cleaning fuckwit child.


> Its a "local loop" monopoly allegation


It clearly isnt in the sentence at the top, you flagrantly dishonest dunny cleaning fuckwit child.



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Old 12-13-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Telstra criticises G9

Michael wrote...

> > I'm talking about the land based copper network, not wireless or other
> > services that ostensibly could "compete" with Telstra's landline network.

>
> Optus HFC is a land based local loop. Who cares that the line is composed of
> copper (or aluminium)?


And it's rollout is restricted to a small number of suburbs around some of the
capitals' suburbs.

If it was widely available, then yeah, it could be considered as a true
competitor to the national copper residential/business network.

> True competition does not necessarily involve price competition


Yes it does. Otherwise it's not competition.

NextG ostensibly competes with other wireless networks because of its very
nature of mobility. In terms of providing a total residential solution, or even
a total business solution It cannot hope to compete with a landline system
because of the large disparities in cost


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Old 12-14-2007, 04:42 AM
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Marts <marts_57@yahoo.com.au> wrote
> Michael wrote


>>> I'm talking about the land based copper network, not wireless or other
>>> services that ostensibly could "compete" with Telstra's landline network.


>> Optus HFC is a land based local loop. Who cares
>> that the line is composed of copper (or aluminium)?


> And it's rollout is restricted to a small number of
> suburbs around some of the capitals' suburbs.


It isnt that small.

> If it was widely available, then yeah, it could be considered as a
> true competitor to the national copper residential/business network.


>> True competition does not necessarily involve price competition


> Yes it does. Otherwise it's not competition.


Wrong, you can also have competition on reliability of service and other things too.

> NextG ostensibly competes with other wireless networks because
> of its very nature of mobility. In terms of providing a total residential
> solution, or even a total business solution It cannot hope to compete
> with a landline system because of the large disparities in cost


That varys with how the broadband is used. The cost difference
isnt that great when the monthly volume isnt over 1G for example.



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Old 12-22-2007, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: Telstra criticises G9


"Marts" <marts_57@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> > I'm talking about the land based copper network, not wireless or other
>> > services that ostensibly could "compete" with Telstra's landline
>> > network.

>>
>> Optus HFC is a land based local loop. Who cares that the line is composed
>> of
>> copper (or aluminium)?

>
> And it's rollout is restricted to a small number of suburbs around some of
> the
> capitals' suburbs.


Your problem

> If it was widely available, then yeah, it could be considered as a true
> competitor to the national copper residential/business network.


Covering millions of customers makes it "widely available"

>> True competition does not necessarily involve price competition

>
> Yes it does. Otherwise it's not competition.


Nope

> NextG ostensibly competes with other wireless networks because of its very
> nature of mobility. In terms of providing a total residential solution, or
> even
> a total business solution It cannot hope to compete with a landline system
> because of the large disparities in cost


Clearly you dont know what competition is.


>




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Old 12-22-2007, 11:32 PM
Marts
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Michael wrote...

> > And it's rollout is restricted to a small number of suburbs around some of
> > the capitals' suburbs.

>
> Your problem


How is it "my problem"?

Or is this your way of retaliating when someone offends poor old Telstra's
sensibilities?

> > If it was widely available, then yeah, it could be considered as a true
> > competitor to the national copper residential/business network.

>
> Covering millions of customers makes it "widely available"


No it doesn't. Not when there are many more "millions" who don't get it.

> Clearly you dont know what competition is.


To you, maybe. But then, in the words of Rod, you are completely and utterly
irrelevant when it comes to, well, anything, I s'pose.

But then, with you being a Telstra droid and sock puppet, the term "competition"
is as probably as unpalatable as say, the rest of us having red hot spikes
driven up our clackers...

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