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Old 10-04-2007, 10:01 AM
Will Kemp
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Default Is Telstra deliberately degrading CDMA coverage?

A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure CDMA
coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA
coverage isn't so good, it will be much easier to make NextG coverage the
same.

This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.
When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he could
move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls! Naturally
he told them to get stuffed. One less person on CDMA. Telstra's clearly
hoping that if nobody's using it the government will let them close it
down.

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Old 10-04-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Is Telstra deliberately degrading CDMA coverage?

I am not sure if it is coverage or the actual bandwidth of data connections
to base stations (which is now shared with Next-G). In recent weeks I get
frequent dropped calls, even when signal is strong. Others at work on CDMA
have experienced the exact same problem. Of course Telstra will deny it and
the Minister/ACCC/ACMA/TIO don't have the balls to stand up to the
loudmouthed yanks.

"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure CDMA
> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA
> coverage isn't so good, it will be much easier to make NextG coverage the
> same.
>
> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.
> When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he could
> move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls! Naturally
> he told them to get stuffed. One less person on CDMA. Telstra's clearly
> hoping that if nobody's using it the government will let them close it
> down.




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Old 10-05-2007, 08:24 AM
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"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure CDMA
> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA


Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas by a
couple of degrees, taking some circuits out so that there is little capacity
to hold calls.

Somehow the GOC and all the faults department don't notice this, eh?

> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.


You dont "renew" a contract. You are out of contract. You either do nothing
or sign a new contract

> When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he could
> move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls! Naturally
> he told them to get stuffed. One less person on CDMA. Telstra's clearly


He doesnt have to change to anything



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Old 10-05-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Is Telstra deliberately degrading CDMA coverage?

On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:24:37 +0000, Michael wrote:

> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure
>>CDMA
>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA

>
> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas by
> a couple of degrees, taking some circuits out so that there is little
> capacity to hold calls.
>
> Somehow the GOC and all the faults department don't notice this, eh?
>
>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.

>
> You dont "renew" a contract. You are out of contract. You either do
> nothing or sign a new contract


Get a life!

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Old 10-05-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Is Telstra deliberately degrading CDMA coverage?

On 04 Oct 2007 10:01:29 GMT Will Kemp may have written:
> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.


Doesn't mean he can't continue to operate his phone on the plan of his
choice...

> When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he could
> move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls!


I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have that
problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.

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Old 10-05-2007, 01:48 PM
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"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure CDMA
>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA

>
> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas by a
> couple of degrees,


Believe it or not but that actually happened a few years ago in order to
give a federal politicial in Boronia Vic better coverage at the expense of
those who were zoned out of range by the move.
There was a Country Wide employee living in Healesville who was not a very
happy man when it happened.





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Old 10-05-2007, 07:17 PM
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Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:24:37 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
>> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
>> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure
>>> CDMA
>>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if
>>> CDMA

>>
>> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas
>> by a couple of degrees, taking some circuits out so that there is
>> little capacity to hold calls.
>>
>> Somehow the GOC and all the faults department don't notice this, eh?
>>
>>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew
>>> it.

>>
>> You dont "renew" a contract. You are out of contract. You either do
>> nothing or sign a new contract

>
> Get a life!


He doesnt qualify for a life, silly.



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Old 10-05-2007, 07:19 PM
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Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
> Will Kemp wrote


>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.


> Doesn't mean he can't continue to operate his phone on the plan of his choice...


>> When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he
>> could move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls!


> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.


Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.

Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign to
get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.



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Old 10-05-2007, 11:32 PM
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 23:48:39 +1000, Kwyjibo wrote:

> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9xmNi.5333$H22.4692@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
>> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure
>>>CDMA
>>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA

>>
>> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas by
>> a couple of degrees,

>
> Believe it or not but that actually happened a few years ago in order to
> give a federal politicial in Boronia Vic better coverage at the expense
> of those who were zoned out of range by the move. There was a Country
> Wide employee living in Healesville who was not a very happy man when it
> happened.


Never! That couldn't possibly be true! There's no way our beloved,
caring, customer-loving tel$cum could do such a thing!

Nowadays, of course, they're more likely to turn it the other way - just
to piss the pollies off!


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Old 10-06-2007, 12:11 AM
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:19:45 +1000 Rod Speed may have written:
> > I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
> > that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.

>
> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.


Very true - mine has been happily off contract since _before_ NextG was
announced.

> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign to get
> people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.


I think all I've received a brochure or two and one SMS? Surpsied I
haven't started receiving lots of sales calls telling me about the
wonders of NextG.

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Old 10-06-2007, 03:20 AM
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Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote



>>> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
>>> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.


>> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.


> Very true - mine has been happily off contract since _before_ NextG was announced.


>> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign
>> to get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.


> I think all I've received a brochure or two and one SMS? Surpsied I haven't
> started receiving lots of sales calls telling me about the wonders of NextG.


Likely some fool in telstra has decided that the new anti spam laws stop them doing that.



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Old 10-06-2007, 03:44 AM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote

>
>
>>>> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
>>>> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.

>
>>> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.

>
>> Very true - mine has been happily off contract since _before_ NextG was
>> announced.

>
>>> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign
>>> to get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.

>
>> I think all I've received a brochure or two and one SMS? Surpsied I
>> haven't
>> started receiving lots of sales calls telling me about the wonders of
>> NextG.

>
> Likely some fool in telstra has decided that the new anti spam laws stop
> them doing that.
>

Pity you wouldn;t have a clue



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Old 10-06-2007, 05:59 AM
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"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:24:37 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
>> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
>> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure
>>>CDMA
>>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA

>>
>> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas by
>> a couple of degrees, taking some circuits out so that there is little
>> capacity to hold calls.
>>
>> Somehow the GOC and all the faults department don't notice this, eh?
>>
>>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.

>>
>> You dont "renew" a contract. You are out of contract. You either do
>> nothing or sign a new contract

>
> Get a life!


what a ****** of a comment from ****wit Kemp



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Old 10-06-2007, 06:00 AM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>> Will Kemp wrote

>
>>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.

>
>> Doesn't mean he can't continue to operate his phone on the plan of his
>> choice...

>
>>> When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he
>>> could move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls!

>
>> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
>> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.

>
> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.


Makes no difference whether you are on or off contract.

If you are CDMA and on contract your ETCs will be waived.

> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign to
> get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.


Jeez Rod, where you been, theyve been doing that for 12 months.

There has been no CDMA contract signings for OVER 12 MONTHS
>
>




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Old 10-06-2007, 06:00 AM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote

>
>
>>>> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
>>>> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.

>
>>> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.

>
>> Very true - mine has been happily off contract since _before_ NextG was
>> announced.

>
>>> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign
>>> to get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.

>
>> I think all I've received a brochure or two and one SMS? Surpsied I
>> haven't
>> started receiving lots of sales calls telling me about the wonders of
>> NextG.

>
> Likely some fool in telstra has decided that the new anti spam laws stop
> them doing that.


Existing relationship with the company, exempt from do-not-call
>
>




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Old 10-06-2007, 06:01 AM
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"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9xmNi.5333$H22.4692@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
>> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure CDMA
>>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA

>>
>> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas by a
>> couple of degrees,

>
> Believe it or not but that actually happened a few years ago in order to
> give a federal politicial in Boronia Vic better coverage at the expense of
> those who were zoned out of range by the move.


Realigning antennas for coverage reasons is not a "deliberate misalignment
of antennas"




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Old 10-06-2007, 06:09 AM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote


>>>>> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
>>>>> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.


>>>> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.


>>> Very true - mine has been happily off contract since _before_ NextG was announced.


>>>> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign
>>>> to get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.


>>> I think all I've received a brochure or two and one SMS? Surpsied I haven't
>>> started receiving lots of sales calls telling me about the wonders of NextG.


>> Likely some fool in telstra has decided that the new anti spam laws stop them doing that.


> Existing relationship with the company, exempt from do-not-call


Irrelevant to whether some fool might well get it that wrong, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.



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Old 10-06-2007, 06:12 AM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>>> Will Kemp wrote


>>>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.


>>> Doesn't mean he can't continue to operate his phone on the plan of his choice...


>>>> When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he
>>>> could move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls!


>>> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
>>> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.


>> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.


> Makes no difference whether you are on or off contract.


Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> If you are CDMA and on contract your ETCs will be waived.


Cant even manage a consistent line in mindless pig ignorant silly stuff.

That sentance says the exact opposite of the first one, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.

>> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign to
>> get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.


> Jeez Rod, where you been, theyve been doing that for 12 months.


Not as aggressively, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.

> There has been no CDMA contract signings for OVER 12 MONTHS


Irrelevant to what happens with those WHO COME OFF
CONTRACT, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.



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Old 10-06-2007, 07:17 AM
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:59:02 +0000, Michael wrote:

> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
> news:47061f01$0$3573$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:24:37 +0000, Michael wrote:
>>
>>> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure
>>>>CDMA
>>>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>>>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>>>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if
>>>> CDMA
>>>
>>> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas
>>> by a couple of degrees, taking some circuits out so that there is
>>> little capacity to hold calls.
>>>
>>> Somehow the GOC and all the faults department don't notice this, eh?
>>>
>>>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> You dont "renew" a contract. You are out of contract. You either do
>>> nothing or sign a new contract

>>
>> Get a life!

>
> what a ****** of a comment from ****wit Kemp


Charming!

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Old 10-06-2007, 12:48 PM
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"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
> news:470640b8$0$3584$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:9xmNi.5333$H22.4692@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure
>>>>CDMA
>>>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>>>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>>>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if CDMA
>>>
>>> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas by
>>> a couple of degrees,

>>
>> Believe it or not but that actually happened a few years ago in order to
>> give a federal politicial in Boronia Vic better coverage at the expense
>> of those who were zoned out of range by the move.

>
> Realigning antennas for coverage reasons is not a "deliberate misalignment
> of antennas"


It is to those who lost their coverage as a result of the 'realignment' that
was only done for political reasons.
It was initially configured to provide the optimum coverage. I would say
that is optimially alligned. Any change from that optimum, when performed on
purpose, is a deliberate misalignment.

Take your ******** spin doctoring elsewhere, ****wit.

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Old 10-07-2007, 12:01 AM
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:48:38 +1000, Kwyjibo wrote:

> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
>> news:470640b8$0$3584$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9xmNi.5333$H22.4692@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:4704b9f9$0$3605$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>A workmate, who's been using CDMA for many years, tells me he's sure
>>>>>CDMA
>>>>> coverage is getting worse. Now this could, of course, be his phone
>>>>> deteriorating - but it struck me that it's exactly the sort of dirty
>>>>> trick telstra would try and pull. Maybe based on the idea that if
>>>>> CDMA
>>>>
>>>> Yep, there is a dirty tricks dept, deliberately misaligning antennas
>>>> by a couple of degrees,
>>>
>>> Believe it or not but that actually happened a few years ago in order
>>> to give a federal politicial in Boronia Vic better coverage at the
>>> expense of those who were zoned out of range by the move.

>>
>> Realigning antennas for coverage reasons is not a "deliberate
>> misalignment of antennas"

>
> It is to those who lost their coverage as a result of the 'realignment'
> that was only done for political reasons.
> It was initially configured to provide the optimum coverage. I would say
> that is optimially alligned. Any change from that optimum, when
> performed on purpose, is a deliberate misalignment.
>
> Take your ******** spin doctoring elsewhere, ****wit.


Young Ellis thinks the techs just bolt antennas onto the tower in
whatever random configuration they happen to feel like at the time -
maybe wiggling them around a bit till some bloke on the ground with a
phone gives them the thumbs up!

Well... maybe that's not really fair. I shouldn't have said that's what
Michael thinks - as there's never been any evidence that he thinks at all.

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Old 10-07-2007, 11:24 AM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>>>> Will Kemp wrote

>
>>>>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.

>
>>>> Doesn't mean he can't continue to operate his phone on the plan of his
>>>> choice...

>
>>>>> When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he
>>>>> could move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls!

>
>>>> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
>>>> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.

>
>>> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.

>
>> Makes no difference whether you are on or off contract.

>
> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.
>
>> If you are CDMA and on contract your ETCs will be waived.

>
> Cant even manage a consistent line in mindless pig ignorant silly stuff.
> That sentance says the exact opposite of the first one, you stupid dunny
> cleaning ****wit child.


How so Roddles?

If you are on contract, you will pay no ETCs
If you are not on contract, you will pay no ETCs

I dont see any inconsistencies

>>> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign to
>>> get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.

>
>> Jeez Rod, where you been, theyve been doing that for 12 months.

>
> Not as aggressively, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>
>> There has been no CDMA contract signings for OVER 12 MONTHS

>
> Irrelevant to what happens with those WHO COME OFF
> CONTRACT, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>
>




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Old 10-07-2007, 06:44 PM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Paul Day <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote
>>>>> Will Kemp wrote


>>>>>> This same guy's contract just ran out and telstra refused to renew it.


>>>>> Doesn't mean he can't continue to operate his phone on the plan of his choice...


>>>>>> When he said he didn't want to change to NextG, they told him he
>>>>>> could move to a prepaid account - and pay $1.20 a minute for calls!


>>>>> I think he's being taken for a ride there. I certainly don't have
>>>>> that problem with my personal out-of-contract CDMA phone.


>>>> Things might be different now with cdma phones going off contract.


>>> Makes no difference whether you are on or off contract.


>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.


>>> If you are CDMA and on contract your ETCs will be waived.


>> Cant even manage a consistent line in mindless pig ignorant silly stuff. That sentance says the exact opposite of the
>> first one, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.


> How so Roddles?


Presumably you actually are that stupid.

> If you are on contract, you will pay no ETCs
> If you are not on contract, you will pay no ETCs


> I dont see any inconsistencies


You claimed in the sentance before that that it makes NO
DIFFERENCE if you are on or off contract, and then says
thats one difference, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.

No wonder they only let you clean the dunnys.

>>>> Telstra appears to be ramping up a pretty aggressive campaign to
>>>> get people off cdma and onto NextG and that may be part of that.


>>> Jeez Rod, where you been, theyve been doing that for 12 months.


>> Not as aggressively, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.


>>> There has been no CDMA contract signings for OVER 12 MONTHS


>> Irrelevant to what happens with those WHO COME OFF
>> CONTRACT, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.




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