Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Here's one for ya, Parky.
>
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/blogs/traffi...9288362,00.htm
>
> Care to comment? That is, if you can string a sentence together that
> comprises your own thoughts and words...
>
The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as compared
to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square kilometres.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
Alan Parkington wrote:
>
> "Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
> news:480ea9a2$0$11216$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> Here's one for ya, Parky.
>>
>> http://www.zdnet.com.au/blogs/traffi...9288362,00.htm
>>
>>
>> Care to comment? That is, if you can string a sentence together that
>> comprises your own thoughts and words...
>>
>
> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
> compared
> to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square kilometres.
>
It still doesn't work in some areas that CDMA worked for us at work. Of
course that could be the u-beaut ZTE 165 model phones which Telstra
supplied as a replacement for the phones with some sort of track record.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:25:49 Alan Parkington may have written:
> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
> kilometres.
....just not in all the same physical locations CDMA coverred.
> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
> kilometres.
Dunno about NextG, but was in Dubbo NSW today.
Only place Optarse worked was outside the airport, and right in centre
of town - shit coverage.
If I wasn't paying only 10 cents for 30 seconds (Soul Comms) I would
dump them like a dirty turd.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"John Phillips" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:25:49 GMT "Alan Parkington"
> <patriot@iheartaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
>> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
>> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
>> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
>> kilometres.
>
> Dunno about NextG, but was in Dubbo NSW today.
>
> Only place Optarse worked was outside the airport, and right in centre
> of town - shit coverage.
>
Optus has always had woeful coverage outside the capital cities..
> > Only place Optarse worked was outside the airport, and right in
> > centre of town - shit coverage.
> >
>
> Optus has always had woeful coverage outside the capital cities..
So if Telstra could come up with a better deal...?
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"John Phillips" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:48:20 GMT "Alan Parkington"
> <patriot@iheartaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
>> > Only place Optarse worked was outside the airport, and right in
>> > centre of town - shit coverage.
>> >
>>
>> Optus has always had woeful coverage outside the capital cities..
>
>
> So if Telstra could come up with a better deal...?
Telstra already has the best coverage, best service and of course keeps all
profits here in Australia.
Other companies funnel their massive profits overseas to prop up the
nepotists like Singapore or India.
> > So if Telstra could come up with a better deal...?
>
> Telstra already has the best coverage, best service and of course
> keeps all profits here in Australia.
>
> Other companies funnel their massive profits overseas to prop up the
> nepotists like Singapore or India.
I just went to the Telstra web page to search for a plan.
Because my phone is with Optus, the page told me to go to a Telstra
shop.
What's the big bloody secret? Frankly I haven't the time.
(BTW my spend is >$500-00 pcm, with 3 other mobiles in company probably
each ~$200-00 pcm.)
At present we pay 18 cents flag fall & 10 cents per 30 seconds.
Telstra have anything near that at all?
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:23:09 +1000, John Phillips wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:04:31 GMT "Alan Parkington"
> <patriot@iheartaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
>> > So if Telstra could come up with a better deal...?
>>
>> Telstra already has the best coverage, best service and of course keeps
>> all profits here in Australia.
>>
>> Other companies funnel their massive profits overseas to prop up the
>> nepotists like Singapore or India.
>
>
> I just went to the Telstra web page to search for a plan.
>
> Because my phone is with Optus, the page told me to go to a Telstra
> shop.
>
> What's the big bloody secret? Frankly I haven't the time.
>
> (BTW my spend is >$500-00 pcm, with 3 other mobiles in company probably
> each ~$200-00 pcm.)
>
> At present we pay 18 cents flag fall & 10 cents per 30 seconds. Telstra
> have anything near that at all?
The $50 pm "Telstra Business Mobile Select voice call plan" (ridiculously
complicated name) is $50 pm and entitled you to free, untimed calls to
landlines and Telstra mobiles (no flagfall). Calls to non-Telstra mobiles
are charged a 35c per minute with a 30c flagfall.
It's only available to business customers (requires an ABN).
That may be of interest to you (unless you make a lot of calls to Optus,
Voda, and 3 mobiles).
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:42:49 +0900, Horry wrote:
> The $50 pm "Telstra Business Mobile Select voice call plan" (ridiculously
> complicated name) is $50 pm and entitled you to free, untimed calls to
> landlines and Telstra mobiles (no flagfall). Calls to non-Telstra mobiles
> are charged a 35c per minute with a 30c flagfall.
>
> It's only available to business customers (requires an ABN).
>
> That may be of interest to you (unless you make a lot of calls to Optus,
> Voda, and 3 mobiles).
Seems you also need a "Business Line Select plan" with Telatra to qualify.
I assume that's a business PSTN service. (I'm not familiar with Telstra's
terminology and pricing anymore. When I was last with them, the AMPS
network was still running and you had a choice of Flexiplan 20, Standard,
80, 130, and 240.)
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
Alan Parkington <patriot@iheartaustralia.com.au> wrote
> John Phillips <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
>> Alan Parkington <patriot@iheartaustralia.com.au> wrote
>>> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million
>>> square kilometres as compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square kilometres.
>> Dunno about NextG, but was in Dubbo NSW today.
>> Only place Optarse worked was outside the airport, and right in centre of town - shit coverage.
Pig ignorant lie.
> Optus has always had woeful coverage outside the capital cities..
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
Alan Parkington <patriot@iheartaustralia.com.au> wrote:
> "John Phillips" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in message
> news:20080423205347.52df30a0@linux-k6os.site...
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:48:20 GMT "Alan Parkington"
>> <patriot@iheartaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>> Only place Optarse worked was outside the airport, and right in
>>>> centre of town - shit coverage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Optus has always had woeful coverage outside the capital cities..
>>
>>
>> So if Telstra could come up with a better deal...?
> Telstra already has the best coverage,
Pig ignorant lie, GlobalStar does.
> best service
Pig ignorant lie.
> and of course keeps all profits here in Australia.
Pig ignorant lie, heaps of those are given to fuckwit yanks.
> Other companies funnel their massive profits overseas to prop up the nepotists like Singapore or India.
Leaves fuckwit spivvy little yank wogs for dead. Least the chinese
dont run any operation they get involved in into the ground.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"John Phillips" <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in message
news:20080423201208.3310d15a@linux-k6os.site...
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:25:49 GMT "Alan Parkington"
> <patriot@iheartaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>
>> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
>> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
>> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
>> kilometres.
>
> Dunno about NextG, but was in Dubbo NSW today.
>
> Only place Optarse worked was outside the airport, and right in centre
> of town - shit coverage.
>
Don't know about that. My brother was in & around Dubbo for 3 days 2 weeks
ago, he called me 5 or 6 times & other people & didn't have any problems,
others calling him didn't have any problems either (didn't go to voicemail).
Maybe you were just unlucky when they had some localised network outages or
maybe you need to get your phone checked?
Granted out in the sticks Optus don't have great coverage (or any) but I've
found around NSW at least, in the regional towns & cities, Optus have just
as good a coverage as Telstra GSM (you can't compare GSM to CDMA different
technologies, different strengths & weaknesses).
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
Alan Parkington wrote...
> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as compared
> to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square kilometres.
Parky, I asked if you could comment on this in your own words, not to
parrot a Telstra PR blurb.
The issue here is that Telstra is using some guy who lives in a rural area
with tenuous links to a famous actor and a famous movie to sprout the
greatness of NextG. Yet they're not even sure whether the guy can get
NextG, despite the advertising claims that he makes that he can.
So, I ask again, mate, what are your thoughts on this?
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
John Phillips wrote...
> Only place Optarse worked was outside the airport, and right in centre
> of town - shit coverage.
>
> If I wasn't paying only 10 cents for 30 seconds (Soul Comms) I would
> dump them like a dirty turd.
I'm not sure that I follow your logic here. If Optus has shit coverage
(and in my experience, it does out where I live and travel), then why
stick with it? Cheap calls are great if the calls can be made in the first
place. But if you can't use it when you want or need to, then what is the
point with persisting with it?
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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..
>
> So, I ask again, mate, what are your thoughts on this?
>
>
>
There are now more than 35 Next G mobile handsets and each has unique
features and performance levels. Telstra recommends that customers living
or travelling in rural areas should consider one of Telstra's seven Blue
Tick handsets, which are designed to maximise handheld coverage.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:38:14 +1000 Snapper <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure that I follow your logic here. If Optus has shit coverage
> (and in my experience, it does out where I live and travel), then why
> stick with it? Cheap calls are great if the calls can be made in the
> first place. But if you can't use it when you want or need to, then
> what is the point with persisting with it?
Not in the scrub that much these days, mainly capital cities.
> There are now more than 35 Next G mobile handsets and each has unique
> features and performance levels. Telstra recommends that customers
> living or travelling in rural areas should consider one of Telstra's
> seven Blue Tick handsets, which are designed to maximise handheld
> coverage.
So which handset is the best of the best for performance on 3G?
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
You should get a job as either a politician or a public servant who has to
answer to one.
Your avoiding of the questions and posting Telstra PR blurb as a response
shows that you'd be good at doing either of the above.
Of course you may well be doing that now...
Alan Parkington wrote...
>
> "Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
> news:036b3d61$0$27278$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> .
> >
> > So, I ask again, mate, what are your thoughts on this?
> >
> >
> >
>
> There are now more than 35 Next G mobile handsets and each has unique
> features and performance levels. Telstra recommends that customers living
> or travelling in rural areas should consider one of Telstra's seven Blue
> Tick handsets, which are designed to maximise handheld coverage.
>
>"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
>news:036b3d61$0$27278$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com.. .
>.
>>
>> So, I ask again, mate, what are your thoughts on this?
>>
>>
>>
>
>There are now more than 35 Next G mobile handsets and each has unique
>features and performance levels. Telstra recommends that customers living
>or travelling in rural areas should consider one of Telstra's seven Blue
>Tick handsets, which are designed to maximise handheld coverage.
and for some inexplicable reason, T-shops are still promoting that ZTE POS.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:31:52 +0800 rebel <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> and for some inexplicable reason, T-shops are still promoting that
> ZTE POS.
I asked Parky through this group on 24 April which handset was the best
of the best for 3G in the bush, or wherever, still no reply.
Given that he is either a 'bot of half public servant, and probably
pissed off early Thursday to play golf, etc., it will be interesting
to see the reply, if indeed there is any reply at all.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:25:49 Alan Parkington may have written:
>> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
>> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
>> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
>> kilometres.
>
> ...just not in all the same physical locations CDMA coverred.
Clearly it must cover almost all of the CDMA covered.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:13:37 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
>news:1208928345.221865@colossus.enigma.id.au...
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:25:49 Alan Parkington may have written:
>>> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
>>> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
>>> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
>>> kilometres.
>>
>> ...just not in all the same physical locations CDMA coverred.
>
>Clearly it must cover almost all of the CDMA covered.
and it was *supposed to* cover all of it, and more
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:13:37 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
>>news:1208928345.221865@colossus.enigma.id.au.. .
>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:25:49 Alan Parkington may have written:
>>>> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
>>>> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
>>>> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
>>>> kilometres.
>>>
>>> ...just not in all the same physical locations CDMA coverred.
>>
>>Clearly it must cover almost all of the CDMA covered.
>
> and it was *supposed to* cover all of it, and more
>
>"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:g8aa145a1nsdpd0rvdg6h56dnl1ke54seg@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:13:37 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
>>>news:1208928345.221865@colossus.enigma.id.au. ..
>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:25:49 Alan Parkington may have written:
>>>>> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
>>>>> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
>>>>> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
>>>>> kilometres.
>>>>
>>>> ...just not in all the same physical locations CDMA coverred.
>>>
>>>Clearly it must cover almost all of the CDMA covered.
>>
>> and it was *supposed to* cover all of it, and more
>
>Where does it say that?
Geez, you new on the planet? That was discussed at GREAT_LENGTH last year, and
the original commitment was quoted where Telstra or their mouthpiece_du_jour
gave that undertaking.
And your challenging that now shows the lie to all the Telscum claims. You may
have managed to hoodwink Conroy, but you've got a long way to go before you
hoodwink the users.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:48:29 Alan Parkington may have written:
> > and it was *supposed to* cover all of it, and more
>
> Where does it say that?
Go read the archives Alan... We did this one to death last year. Telstra
have been quoted in media releases and in Senate Estimates meetings
saying they would _match_ CDMA coverage square km for square km.
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:13:37 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
>>news:1208928345.221865@colossus.enigma.id.au.. .
>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:25:49 Alan Parkington may have written:
>>>> The Next G network offers a larger mobile coverage footprint than the
>>>> old CDMA network, covering more than 2 million square kilometres as
>>>> compared to CDMA which covered more than 1.6 million square
>>>> kilometres.
>>>
>>> ...just not in all the same physical locations CDMA coverred.
>>
>>Clearly it must cover almost all of the CDMA covered.
>
> and it was *supposed to* cover all of it, and more
Re: Telstra Doesn't know if NextG works in the Bush?
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:48:29 Alan Parkington may have written:
>> > and it was *supposed to* cover all of it, and more
>>
>> Where does it say that?
>
> Go read the archives Alan... We did this one to death last year. Telstra
> have been quoted in media releases and in Senate Estimates meetings
> saying they would _match_ CDMA coverage square km for square km.
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