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Old 10-18-2007, 05:21 PM
thegoons
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Default Telstra forcing me off CDMA

Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?

They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up to
CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the 'latest
and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999),
yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.

Surely this is against basic consumer law.



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Old 10-19-2007, 05:33 AM
Rod Speed
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA

thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off
> CDMA?


Why indeed.

> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed
> up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
> GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an
> ageing relic.


That last is a bare faced lie and irrelevant anyway.

> Surely this is against basic consumer law.


Thats arguable. Bet you wont be able to get the ACCC to shaft telstra on that.



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Old 10-19-2007, 02:31 PM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?

>
> Why indeed.
>
>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed
>> up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
>> GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka
>> Fizzler back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.

>
> That last is a bare faced lie and irrelevant anyway.



Nope, refer to comments made by Telstra's Gary Goldsworthy
(http://www.nowwearetalking.com.au/Ho...g.aspx?mid=373) making
reference to "the ageing CDMA network"


>
>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.

>
> Thats arguable. Bet you wont be able to get the ACCC to shaft telstra on
> that.
>




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Old 10-21-2007, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA


"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:47178a24$0$26374$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>


Part of the reason for their being "expensive" is Telstra's fault.

For example they have an arrangement w/ Motorola to be the exclusive seller
of the V9 Razr2 for the 1st 3 months after its recent launch.
This availability restriction holds the price up (until the other carriers
can also sell it).

Telstra flexing its muscles as usual, and shooting itself in the foot, as
usual.



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Old 10-21-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA

On Oct 21, 1:34 pm, "Core2Duo" <Core2...@theinternet.com> wrote:
> "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>
> news:47178a24$0$26374$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>
> > Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
> > handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?

>
> Part of the reason for their being "expensive" is Telstra's fault.
>
> For example they have an arrangement w/ Motorola to be the exclusive seller
> of the V9 Razr2 for the 1st 3 months after its recent launch.
> This availability restriction holds the price up (until the other carriers
> can also sell it).
>
> Telstra flexing its muscles as usual, and shooting itself in the foot, as
> usual.


Bear in mind a mobile is not considered an essential piece of
equipment in the telco's and especially, the government eyes.
Landlines are. Although the value of mobile use and how it meets needs
within our society is changing rapidly.
Why not do away with your mobile and all the misery associated with
it?



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Old 10-21-2007, 05:18 AM
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA

"Bear in mind a mobile is not considered an essential piece of
equipment in the telco's and especially, the government eyes."

Look at the recent dispute re the CDMA network.


"Landlines are. Although the value of mobile use and how it meets needs
within our society is changing rapidly.
Why not do away with your mobile and all the misery associated with
it?"

Your question is answered by your previous sentence.

In fact, your whole post is a pineapple, you have not addressed any of the
real issues I raised.



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Old 10-21-2007, 07:46 AM
Rod Speed
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA

Spokes <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 1:34 pm, "Core2Duo" <Core2...@theinternet.com> wrote:
>> "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:47178a24$0$26374$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>
>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G
>>> fancy handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?

>>
>> Part of the reason for their being "expensive" is Telstra's fault.
>>
>> For example they have an arrangement w/ Motorola to be the exclusive
>> seller of the V9 Razr2 for the 1st 3 months after its recent launch.
>> This availability restriction holds the price up (until the other
>> carriers can also sell it).
>>
>> Telstra flexing its muscles as usual, and shooting itself in the
>> foot, as usual.

>
> Bear in mind a mobile is not considered an essential piece of
> equipment in the telco's and especially, the government eyes.


Its more complicated than that now.

> Landlines are.


Nope.

> Although the value of mobile use and how it meets
> needs within our society is changing rapidly.


> Why not do away with your mobile and all the misery associated with it?


Why not do away with yourself, and all the misery associated with you ?



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Old 10-21-2007, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA

"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> writes:

>Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?


>http://www.southwestslutbags.com/gal...?g2_itemId=980
>http://www.southwestslutbags.com/gal...?g2_itemId=983


>They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up to
>CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the 'latest
>and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999),
>yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.


>Surely this is against basic consumer law.




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Old 10-22-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA

thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote


>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off
>>> CDMA?


>> Why indeed.


>>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed
>>> up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
>>> GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999), yet they now claim it is
>>> an ageing relic.


>> That last is a bare faced lie and irrelevant anyway.


> Nope,


Yep.

> refer to comments made by Telstra's Gary Goldsworthy
> (http://www.nowwearetalking.com.au/Ho...g.aspx?mid=373) making reference to "the ageing CDMA network"


I never ever said he didnt say it, I JUST said that that is a bare faced lie.

>>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.


>> Thats arguable. Bet you wont be able to get the ACCC to shaft telstra on that.




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Old 10-23-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA

On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>
> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up to
> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the 'latest
> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999),
> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>
> Surely this is against basic consumer law.


The CDMA closure is tough for some.
move on, get with it.
incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
possible financial pain.
After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
effective solution.



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Old 10-23-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Telstra forcing me off CDMA

Spokes <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote
> thegoons <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote


>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new
>> NEXT-G fancy handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?


>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed
>> up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
>> GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka
>> Fizzler back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.


>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.


> The CDMA closure is tough for some.


It remains to be seen if it will happen.

> move on, get with it.


Only a fool would do that now when the govt might well choose to shaft
telstra by telling them that they can turn the cdma system off, ever.

And even the dud may well choose to shaft telstra on that
too if the voters are actually stupid enough to elect it.

> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate
> to nextg with the least possible financial pain.


The only thing that makes any sense at all is a free nextg handset of
as least as good a performance as the cdma system you have now,
AND the same plan detail as you already have with cdma too.

> After jan 28, CDMA is no more


Just another bare faced lie.

> and you will lose your mobile number if you don't migrate beforehand,


Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for quite
a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.

> unless the mighty Roddles has a really effective solution.


Wait and see what happens on the cdma system
shutdown is the only thing that makes any sense at all.

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that date is
after the election is over and it makes a lot more sense to change
in Jan than to do that now, if its become clear that the dud has
got elected and that its actually stupid enough to cave in to telstra's
demands on that and you need a continuous mobile service and the
ACCC hasnt had the balls to tell telstra its not allowed to turn it off.



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Old 10-24-2007, 12:00 AM
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"Spokes" <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193149230.699186.133270@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>
>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up to
>> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the
>> 'latest
>> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999),
>> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>
>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.

>
> The CDMA closure is tough for some.
> move on, get with it.
> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
> possible financial pain.
> After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
> you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
> effective solution.
>
>


What "incentives"?.



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Old 10-24-2007, 01:17 AM
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"Core2Duo" <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Spokes" <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1193149230.699186.133270@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>> On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>>
>>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up
>>> to
>>> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the
>>> 'latest
>>> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in
>>> 1999),
>>> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>>
>>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.

>>
>> The CDMA closure is tough for some.
>> move on, get with it.
>> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
>> possible financial pain.
>> After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
>> you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
>> effective solution.
>>
>>

>
> What "incentives"?.
>


been no incentives from Southern Cross or from Telstra that I am aware of _
I have even asked SC but got no response to the email



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Old 10-24-2007, 04:09 AM
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"Geoff" <geoffwin@MAPS.gmail.SPAM.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Core2Duo" <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:8WvTi.3880$CN4.860@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Spokes" <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1193149230.699186.133270@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>> On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G
>>>> fancy
>>>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>>>
>>>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up
>>>> to
>>>> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the
>>>> 'latest
>>>> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in
>>>> 1999),
>>>> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>>>
>>>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.
>>>
>>> The CDMA closure is tough for some.
>>> move on, get with it.
>>> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
>>> possible financial pain.
>>> After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
>>> you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
>>> effective solution.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> What "incentives"?.
>>

>
> been no incentives from Southern Cross or from Telstra that I am aware of
> _ I have even asked SC but got no response to the email
>


Re-send the email.
We'll also wait to see if 'spokes' bothers to reply to my query.



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Old 10-24-2007, 12:46 PM
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On Oct 24, 5:11 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Spokes <spokesman...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> > thegoons <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote
> >> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new
> >> NEXT-G fancy handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
> >> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed
> >> up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
> >> GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka
> >> Fizzler back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
> >> Surely this is against basic consumer law.

> > The CDMA closure is tough for some.

>
> It remains to be seen if it will happen.
>
> > move on, get with it.

>
> Only a fool would do that now when the govt might well choose to shaft
> telstra by telling them that they can turn the cdma system off, ever.
>
> And even the dud may well choose to shaft telstra on that
> too if the voters are actually stupid enough to elect it.
>
> > incentives are being thrown at you to migrate
> > to nextg with the least possible financial pain.

>
> The only thing that makes any sense at all is a free nextg handset of
> as least as good a performance as the cdma system you have now,
> AND the same plan detail as you already have with cdma too.
>
> > After jan 28, CDMA is no more

>
> Just another bare faced lie.
>
> > and you will lose your mobile number if you don't migrate beforehand,

>
> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for quite
> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.


Don't bet on it.
The choice is clear: migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to
be DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
remember, you can't even port your number to another carrier if you
want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
Unless system protocols are drastically changed and there's absolutley
no guarantee in this, you can't reactivate a CDMA number after that
network is closed. CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra
network - maybe, and it's a maybe but don't hold your breath.
Now you can sit there on your self righteous arse and tell all and
sundry that things won't change much, and that the powers that be are
bare-faced telling lies. You just don't know a thing.
Don't insult us with your ignorance and ridiculous assumptions Rod.
Furthermore, I reckon you don't even have a CDMA service Rod. If you
do have an active CDMA service, what are you going to do about it when
the time comes for the network to close down?


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Old 10-24-2007, 04:38 PM
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On Oct 24, 10:00 am, "Core2Duo" <Core2...@theinternet.com> wrote:
> "Spokes" <spokesman...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193149230.699186.133270@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
> >> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?

>
> >> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up to
> >> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the
> >> 'latest
> >> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999),
> >> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.

>
> >> Surely this is against basic consumer law.

>
> > The CDMA closure is tough for some.
> > move on, get with it.
> > incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
> > possible financial pain.
> > After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
> > you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
> > effective solution.

>
> What "incentives"?.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


incentives such as waiving early termination fees on your current plan
if you migrate to Telstra nextg from your CDMA mobile or card.
There are incentives if you port from another carrier as well.
go to telstra.com, call up or go to a shop to find out.



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Old 10-24-2007, 06:59 PM
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Spokes <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Spokes <spokesman...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> thegoons <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote


>>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new
>>>> NEXT-G fancy handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed
>>>> up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
>>>> GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka
>>>> Fizzler back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.
>>> The CDMA closure is tough for some.


>> It remains to be seen if it will happen.


>>> move on, get with it.


>> Only a fool would do that now when the govt might well choose to shaft
>> telstra by telling them that they can turn the cdma system off, ever.


>> And even the dud may well choose to shaft telstra on that
>> too if the voters are actually stupid enough to elect it.


>>> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate
>>> to nextg with the least possible financial pain.


>> The only thing that makes any sense at all is a free nextg handset
>> of as least as good a performance as the cdma system you have
>> now, AND the same plan detail as you already have with cdma too.


>>> After jan 28, CDMA is no more


>> Just another bare faced lie.


>>> and you will lose your mobile number if you don't migrate beforehand,


>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for quite
>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.


> Don't bet on it.


No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all
is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly change now.

> The choice is clear:


Yep, wait and see how things pan out.

> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.


Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.

> remember, you can't even port your number to another
> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.


Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.

> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.


It aint closed in Jan, stupid.

> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,


No maybe about it.

> and it's a maybe


Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.

> but don't hold your breath.


No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.

<reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>

Wota ****ing moron.



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Old 10-28-2007, 06:55 AM
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"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?


No one is forcing you to buy a new handset, you can certainly use your CDMA
up till 28/1/8 and then go without a phone

> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me.


Correct, as is THEIR prerogative with THEIR network

>I signed up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
>GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler
>back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.


And the worlds moved on since 1999, love. It's 8 years later

Telstra dont owe you anything

> Surely this is against basic consumer law.


No
Thanks for asking

>
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:55 AM
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"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5nqtsfFjqaorU1@mid.individual.net...
>> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?

>>
>> Why indeed.
>>
>>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed
>>> up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
>>> GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka
>>> Fizzler back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.

>>
>> That last is a bare faced lie and irrelevant anyway.

>
>
> Nope, refer to comments made by Telstra's Gary Goldsworthy
> (http://www.nowwearetalking.com.au/Ho...g.aspx?mid=373) making
> reference to "the ageing CDMA network"


Not you dick, he was saying Telstra is lying.

If CDMA is an aging relic I wonder what their GSM network is?




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Old 10-28-2007, 06:57 AM
Michael
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"Core2Duo" <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:47178a24$0$26374$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>

>
> Part of the reason for their being "expensive" is Telstra's fault.


Crapshit

> For example they have an arrangement w/ Motorola to be the exclusive
> seller of the V9 Razr2 for the 1st 3 months after its recent launch.
> This availability restriction holds the price up (until the other carriers
> can also sell it).


both telstra, optus and voda have been "exclusive sellers" of various
handsets over the years

>
> Telstra flexing its muscles as usual, and shooting itself in the foot, as
> usual.


nope, completely normal practice
>
>




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Old 10-28-2007, 07:01 AM
Michael
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>> The only thing that makes any sense at all is a free nextg handset of
>> as least as good a performance as the cdma system you have now,
>> AND the same plan detail as you already have with cdma too.
>>
>> > After jan 28, CDMA is no more

>>
>> Just another bare faced lie.
>>
>> > and you will lose your mobile number if you don't migrate beforehand,

>>
>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for
>> quite
>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.

>
> Don't bet on it.
> The choice is clear: migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to
> be DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
> remember, you can't even port your number to another carrier if you
> want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and there's absolutley
> no guarantee in this, you can't reactivate a CDMA number after that
> network is closed. CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra


if its postpaid its technically possible.
just wont have a network to work on



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Old 10-28-2007, 07:02 AM
Michael
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>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for
>>> quite
>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.

>
>> Don't bet on it.

>
> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all
> is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly change now.
>
>> The choice is clear:

>
> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.
>
>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.

>
> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.
>
>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.

>
> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.
>
>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.

>
> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.


sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan, meaning it will be closed on 29 jan,
that is in jan

>> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,

>
> No maybe about it.
>
>> and it's a maybe

>
> Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.
>
>> but don't hold your breath.

>
> No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.
>
> <reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>
>
> Wota ****ing moron.
>
>




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Old 10-28-2007, 07:03 AM
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"Core2Duo" <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Spokes" <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1193149230.699186.133270@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>> On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>>
>>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up
>>> to
>>> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the
>>> 'latest
>>> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in
>>> 1999),
>>> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>>
>>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.

>>
>> The CDMA closure is tough for some.
>> move on, get with it.
>> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
>> possible financial pain.
>> After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
>> you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
>> effective solution.
>>
>>

>
> What "incentives"?.


The free handset after 18 months offer, the $100 off.
>
>




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Old 10-28-2007, 08:22 AM
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On Oct 28, 6:02 pm, "Michael" <mich...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for
> >>> quite
> >>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.

>
> >> Don't bet on it.

>
> > No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all
> > is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly change now.

>
> >> The choice is clear:

>
> > Yep, wait and see how things pan out.

>
> >> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
> >> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.

>
> > Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.

>
> >> remember, you can't even port your number to another
> >> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.

>
> > Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.

>
> >> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
> >> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
> >> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.

>
> > It aint closed in Jan, stupid.

>
> sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan, meaning it will be closed on 29 jan,
> that is in jan
>
>
>
> >> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,

>
> > No maybe about it.

>
> >> and it's a maybe

>
> > Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.

>
> >> but don't hold your breath.

>
> > No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.

>
> > <reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>

>
> > Wota ****ing moron.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


thank you michael...read your various posts today. roddles certainly
stuffed up big time with his limited knowledge of the subject?



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Old 10-28-2007, 08:26 AM
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"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for
>>>> quite
>>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.

>>
>>> Don't bet on it.

>>
>> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all
>> is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly change now.
>>
>>> The choice is clear:

>>
>> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.
>>
>>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.

>>
>> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.
>>
>>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.

>>
>> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.
>>
>>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.

>>
>> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.

>
> sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan,


Probably - Not definitely though.

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Old 10-28-2007, 08:48 AM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for quite
>>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.


>>> Don't bet on it.


>> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all is to wait and see how things turn out and not
>> mindlessly change now.


>>> The choice is clear:


>> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.


>>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.


>> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.


>>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.


>> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.


>>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.


>> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.


> sure is lovey,


**** off poofter.

> it closes on 28 jan,


Taint gunna happen, you watch.

> meaning it will be closed on 29 jan, that is in jan


Taint gunna happen, you watch.

>>> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,


>> No maybe about it.


>>> and it's a maybe


>> Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.


>>> but don't hold your breath.


>> No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.


>> <reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>


>> Wota ****ing moron.


You in spades.



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Old 10-28-2007, 09:04 AM
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Spokes <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 28, 6:02 pm, "Michael" <mich...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the
>>>>> number for quite
>>>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that
>>>>> date.

>>
>>>> Don't bet on it.

>>
>>> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at
>>> all is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly
>>> change now.

>>
>>>> The choice is clear:

>>
>>> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.

>>
>>>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>>>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.

>>
>>> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.

>>
>>>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>>>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.

>>
>>> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.

>>
>>>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>>>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>>>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.

>>
>>> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.

>>
>> sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan, meaning it will be closed on 29
>> jan, that is in jan
>>
>>
>>
>>>> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,

>>
>>> No maybe about it.

>>
>>>> and it's a maybe

>>
>>> Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.

>>
>>>> but don't hold your breath.

>>
>>> No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.

>>
>>> <reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>

>>
>>> Wota ****ing moron.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> thank you michael...read your various posts today. roddles certainly
> stuffed up big time with his limited knowledge of the subject?


Never ever could ******** its way out of a wet paper bag.

No surprise that the best it can manage is that pathetic excuse for a sheltered workshop.



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Old 10-28-2007, 09:28 AM
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Geoff wrote...

> been no incentives from Southern Cross or from Telstra that I am aware of _
> I have even asked SC but got no response to the email


The incentive that I got was that if I stayed on CDMA past Jan then I'd lose the
service. I got no rebates, no special deals. Phone service costs me the same for
basic calls, MMS and SMS as CDMA.


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Old 10-28-2007, 09:32 AM
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Spokes wrote...

> incentives such as waiving early termination fees on your current plan
> if you migrate to Telstra nextg from your CDMA mobile or card.


If Telstra has customers on plans that extend beyond the cut-off date then how
can it continue to charge them for the plan? There would have to be provisions
under the Trade Practices Act that would force Telstra to offer such
"incentives", anyway.


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Old 10-28-2007, 01:27 PM
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"Spokes" <spokesman123@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <thego...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>
>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up to
>> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the
>> 'latest
>> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999),
>> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>
>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.

>
> The CDMA closure is tough for some.
> move on, get with it.
> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
> possible financial pain.
> After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
> you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
> effective solution.
>
>

Nope, CDMA shutdown schedule is now dictated by Minister H. Coonan and
Attorney General Rudduck, not Telstra.



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