Telstra heading for 50 percent of retail broadband market

From
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15190/127/

Telstra is close to having half of Australia's broadband Internet users as
its customers, following steady growth since June 2005.

BigPond CEO, Justin Milne, told Telstra's investor day briefing last week
that: "We reported in August that we'd continued to grow our market share
and achieved 47 percent. Today I am very happy to inform you that we've
continued this upward climb. Today our market share is around 48 percent,
with no sign of the trend changing. 50 percent is an extremely important
goal to us and we expect to be having that party pretty soon."

The growth represents a return to levels last seen in the early years of the
decade. In December 2002 Telstra had 46 percent of retail broadband but this
declined rapidly to 37 percent in December 2003 with a number of new players
entering the market. Since then growth as been fairly steady.

The turnaround co-incided with Telstra's notorious February 2003 retail
price cut for ADSL, to $29.95 per month on the entry level plan, and a price
lower than its wholesale ADSL offering. Milne told the investor day briefing
that "Our pricing has hardly changed since we introduced the $29.95 price
point."

He added: "One third of our customers who join us on our entry level $29.95
plan soon find that they want to consume more and often at faster speeds, so
they upgrade to what we call a Liberty Plan which starts from $59.95. Today,
if you look at our whole base, close to 60 percent of our customers are on
liberty plans."

If I wanted a Telstra news alert, I'd subscribe to such a service, you
fuckwit.

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:07:37 GMT, Alan Parkington wrote:

> From
> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15190/127/
>
> Telstra is close to having half of Australia's broadband Internet users as
> its customers, following steady growth since June 2005.

Always said that half the population of this country were absolute morons.
They voted cuntface in, after all...

Alan Parkington <alanparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote:

> From
> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15190/127/

> Telstra is close to having half of Australia's broadband Internet
> users as its customers, following steady growth since June 2005.

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> BigPond CEO, Justin Milne, told Telstra's investor day briefing last
> week that: "We reported in August that we'd continued to grow our
> market share and achieved 47 percent. Today I am very happy to inform
> you that we've continued this upward climb. Today our market share is
> around 48 percent, with no sign of the trend changing. 50 percent is
> an extremely important goal to us and we expect to be having that
> party pretty soon."

Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

And what matters is how profitable those fools are too.

Anyone can buy market share if they have deep enough pockets.

> The growth represents a return to levels last seen in the early years
> of the decade. In December 2002 Telstra had 46 percent of retail
> broadband but this declined rapidly to 37 percent in December 2003
> with a number of new players entering the market. Since then growth
> as been fairly steady.

> The turnaround co-incided with Telstra's notorious February 2003
> retail price cut for ADSL, to $29.95 per month on the entry level
> plan, and a price lower than its wholesale ADSL offering. Milne told
> the investor day briefing that "Our pricing has hardly changed since
> we introduced the $29.95 price point."

See above on the profit.

> He added: "One third of our customers who join us on our entry level
> $29.95 plan soon find that they want to consume more and often at
> faster speeds, so they upgrade to what we call a Liberty Plan which
> starts from $59.95. Today, if you look at our whole base, close to 60
> percent of our customers are on liberty plans."

Usual bait and switch technique.

No big news really - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband market
in the late 90s.

"Alan Parkington" <alanparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote in message
news:JXBXi.8908$CN4.5133@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> From
> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15190/127/
>
> Telstra is close to having half of Australia's broadband Internet users as
> its customers, following steady growth since June 2005.
>
> BigPond CEO, Justin Milne, told Telstra's investor day briefing last week
> that: "We reported in August that we'd continued to grow our market share
> and achieved 47 percent. Today I am very happy to inform you that we've
> continued this upward climb. Today our market share is around 48 percent,
> with no sign of the trend changing. 50 percent is an extremely important
> goal to us and we expect to be having that party pretty soon."
>
> The growth represents a return to levels last seen in the early years of
> the decade. In December 2002 Telstra had 46 percent of retail broadband
> but this declined rapidly to 37 percent in December 2003 with a number of
> new players entering the market. Since then growth as been fairly steady.
>
> The turnaround co-incided with Telstra's notorious February 2003 retail
> price cut for ADSL, to $29.95 per month on the entry level plan, and a
> price lower than its wholesale ADSL offering. Milne told the investor day
> briefing that "Our pricing has hardly changed since we introduced the
> $29.95 price point."
>
> He added: "One third of our customers who join us on our entry level
> $29.95 plan soon find that they want to consume more and often at faster
> speeds, so they upgrade to what we call a Liberty Plan which starts from
> $59.95. Today, if you look at our whole base, close to 60 percent of our
> customers are on liberty plans."
>
>
>
>

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6wAYi.9958$CN4.443@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> No big news really - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband
> market in the late 90s.

Nope.

--
Kwyj.

"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
news:13j5p1vrhl2uq9b@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6wAYi.9958$CN4.443@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> No big news really - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband
>> market in the late 90s.
>
> Nope.

Yes they did, they were the only provider of cable internet before Optus
came along. They ruled from 1997-1999.

David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote

> No big news really

It is news that they have managed to hike their share lately after it went thru a minimum.

> - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband market in the late 90s.

No they didnt.


> Alan Parkington <alanparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote

>> From
>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15190/127/
>>
>> Telstra is close to having half of Australia's broadband Internet
>> users as its customers, following steady growth since June 2005.
>>
>> BigPond CEO, Justin Milne, told Telstra's investor day briefing last
>> week that: "We reported in August that we'd continued to grow our
>> market share and achieved 47 percent. Today I am very happy to
>> inform you that we've continued this upward climb. Today our market
>> share is around 48 percent, with no sign of the trend changing. 50
>> percent is an extremely important goal to us and we expect to be
>> having that party pretty soon." The growth represents a return to levels last seen in the early
>> years of the decade. In December 2002 Telstra had 46 percent of
>> retail broadband but this declined rapidly to 37 percent in December
>> 2003 with a number of new players entering the market. Since then
>> growth as been fairly steady. The turnaround co-incided with Telstra's notorious February 2003
>> retail price cut for ADSL, to $29.95 per month on the entry level
>> plan, and a price lower than its wholesale ADSL offering. Milne told
>> the investor day briefing that "Our pricing has hardly changed since
>> we introduced the $29.95 price point."
>>
>> He added: "One third of our customers who join us on our entry level
>> $29.95 plan soon find that they want to consume more and often at
>> faster speeds, so they upgrade to what we call a Liberty Plan which
>> starts from $59.95. Today, if you look at our whole base, close to
>> 60 percent of our customers are on liberty plans."

David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote
> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>> David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> No big news really - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband market in the late 90s.

>> Nope.

> Yes they did,

No they didnt.

> they were the only provider of cable internet before Optus came along.

You've mangled that utterly. Optarse preceeded them, it didnt follow them.

> They ruled from 1997-1999.

Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys.

And it wasnt just cable either.

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5ph3siFra25qU1@mid.individual.net...
> David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote
>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>>> David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> No big news really - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband
>>>> market in the late 90s.
>
>>> Nope.
>
>> Yes they did,
>
> No they didnt.

Rubbish. Who was offering broadband internet to home users prior to the
introduction of Telstra Bigpond Cable in 1997?

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5ph3pbFr9lehU1@mid.individual.net...
> David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>> No big news really
>
> It is news that they have managed to hike their share lately after it went
> thru a minimum.
>
>> - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband market in the late 90s.
>
> No they didnt.

Yes they did. No other provider was offering cable internet at the time.
ADSL didn't exist then, and ISDN does not count as broadband (which is
defined as faster than 256k).

David Z wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5ph3pbFr9lehU1@mid.individual.net...
>> David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> No big news really
>> It is news that they have managed to hike their share lately after it went
>> thru a minimum.
>>
>>> - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband market in the late 90s.
>> No they didnt.
>
> Yes they did. No other provider was offering cable internet at the time.
> ADSL didn't exist then, and ISDN does not count as broadband (which is
> defined as faster than 256k).
>
>

Even if you did stretch the imagination and count ISDN as broadband, I
don't know that anyone else was providing ISDN other than Telstra then
anyway.

David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>>>> David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote

>>>>> No big news really - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband market in the late 90s.

>>>> Nope.

>>> Yes they did,

>> No they didnt.

> Rubbish. Who was offering broadband internet to home users prior to the introduction of Telstra Bigpond Cable in
> 1997?

Optarse and a variety of other minor operations using wireless etc.

David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> David Z <dave@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> No big news really

>> It is news that they have managed to hike their share lately after it went thru a minimum.

>>> - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband market in the late 90s.

>> No they didnt.

> Yes they did.

No they didnt.

> No other provider was offering cable internet at the time.

Wrong.

> ADSL didn't exist then,

Wrong, it just wasnt widely available at that time.

> and ISDN does not count as broadband
> (which is defined as faster than 256k).

Pity about fibre optic.

"Anthony Horan" <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k6u61l27kesn.lrh9yqdkkk9d.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:07:37 GMT, Alan Parkington wrote:
>
>> From
>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15190/127/
>>
>> Telstra is close to having half of Australia's broadband Internet users
>> as
>> its customers, following steady growth since June 2005.
>
> Always said that half the population of this country were absolute morons.
> They voted cuntface in, after all...

Thats true

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5p95kpFpu480U1@mid.individual.net...
> Alan Parkington <alanparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>
>> From
>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15190/127/
>
>> Telstra is close to having half of Australia's broadband Internet
>> users as its customers, following steady growth since June 2005.
>
> Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

Telstra are deliberately lying to the sharemarket?
Take em to court

>> The turnaround co-incided with Telstra's notorious February 2003
>> retail price cut for ADSL, to $29.95 per month on the entry level
>> plan, and a price lower than its wholesale ADSL offering. Milne told
>> the investor day briefing that "Our pricing has hardly changed since
>> we introduced the $29.95 price point."
>
> See above on the profit.

See the annual report. Profit's fine

>> He added: "One third of our customers who join us on our entry level
>> $29.95 plan soon find that they want to consume more and often at
>> faster speeds, so they upgrade to what we call a Liberty Plan which
>> starts from $59.95. Today, if you look at our whole base, close to 60
>> percent of our customers are on liberty plans."
>
> Usual bait and switch technique.

Nope typical "choose from whatever plan makes you happy", not "take the plan
we give you"
>
>

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JdEYi.10041$CN4.3098@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
> news:13j5p1vrhl2uq9b@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6wAYi.9958$CN4.443@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> No big news really - they used to have a 100% share of the broadband
>>> market in the late 90s.
>>
>> Nope.
>
> Yes they did, they were the only provider of cable internet before Optus
> came along. They ruled from 1997-1999.

Broadband is not just cable and ADSL, and who gives a fat rats arse about
97-99, absolutely no relevance to today
>
>

Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Alan Parkington <alanparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote

>>> From
>>> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/15190/127/

>>> Telstra is close to having half of Australia's broadband Internet
>>> users as its customers, following steady growth since June 2005.

>> Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> Telstra are deliberately lying to the sharemarket?

Thats got absolutely nothing to do with the sharemarket,
you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

> Take em to court

Some shareholders did just that, and won too.

>>> BigPond CEO, Justin Milne, told Telstra's investor day briefing last
>>> week that: "We reported in August that we'd continued to grow our
>>> market share and achieved 47 percent. Today I am very happy to inform
>>> you that we've continued this upward climb. Today our market share is
>>> around 48 percent, with no sign of the trend changing. 50 percent is
>>> an extremely important goal to us and we expect to be having that
>>> party pretty soon."

>> Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

>> And what matters is how profitable those fools are too.

>> Anyone can buy market share if they have deep enough pockets.

>>> The growth represents a return to levels last seen in the early years
>>> of the decade. In December 2002 Telstra had 46 percent of retail
>>> broadband but this declined rapidly to 37 percent in December 2003
>>> with a number of new players entering the market. Since then growth
>>> as been fairly steady.

>>> The turnaround co-incided with Telstra's notorious February 2003
>>> retail price cut for ADSL, to $29.95 per month on the entry level
>>> plan, and a price lower than its wholesale ADSL offering. Milne told
>>> the investor day briefing that "Our pricing has hardly changed since
>>> we introduced the $29.95 price point."

>> See above on the profit.

> See the annual report. Profit's fine

The annual report doesnt even break out the Bigpong
profits, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

>>> He added: "One third of our customers who join us on our entry level
>>> $29.95 plan soon find that they want to consume more and often at
>>> faster speeds, so they upgrade to what we call a Liberty Plan which
>>> starts from $59.95. Today, if you look at our whole base, close to
>>> 60 percent of our customers are on liberty plans."

>> Usual bait and switch technique.

> Nope

Yep.

> typical "choose from whatever plan makes you happy", not "take the plan we give you"

Pity they suck in the stupid suckers on the entry level plan and they
only realise how comprehensively they have been shafted when
they use it for a while and get to wear the excess data charges.