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Old 09-24-2007, 09:20 AM
Alan Parkington
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Default Telstra on line again in network discussions

From
http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...486137175.html


TELSTRA could end up building the $8 billion broadband network federal Labor
has promised to deliver if it wins government.

The chief executive of Telstra, Sol Trujillo, said late last week Telstra
would examine Labor's plan for a public-private partnership with one or more
telcos, in effect a re-nationalisation of the phone network.

Telstra could consider bidding to build the network and open it on a
commercial wholesale basis if Labor wins the election.

Alternatively, Telstra could follow the lead of British Telecom and set up a
separate corporation in which it, the Government and other investors would
share costs and profit.

Mr Trujillo said he did not reject the broad principle of Labor's platform,
but the detail would need to be clarified before committing Telstra or
shareholders' money.

"Building a national network [of the kind Labor proposes] would be many
times more complex [than building the mobile network, Next G]," he said.

The critical issue for Telstra is that it already has a fibre optic network
linking its phone exchanges across Australia. It would be expected to argue
that duplicating or overbuilding part or all of its infrastructure would not
make commercial sense.

Telstra is also likely to expect a Labor government would compensate it for
using some of its existing network.



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Old 09-24-2007, 09:50 AM
Will Kemp
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Default Re: Telstra on line again in network discussions

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:20:07 +0000, Alan Parkington wrote:

> From
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...in-in-network-

discussions/2007/09/23/1190486137175.html
>
>
> TELSTRA could end up building the $8 billion broadband network federal
> Labor has promised to deliver if it wins government.


Not a hope in hell. Labour will continue with the same process the
Liberals have started. Their "plan" was just for election purposes.

> The chief executive of Telstra, Sol Trujillo,


who clearly hasn't got a clue about the way government works in Australia,

> said late last week
> Telstra would examine Labor's plan for a public-private partnership with
> one or more telcos, in effect a re-nationalisation of the phone network.


********.

> Telstra could consider bidding to build the network and open it on a
> commercial wholesale basis if Labor wins the election.


They won't get the opportunity.

> Alternatively, Telstra could follow the lead of British Telecom and set
> up a separate corporation in which it, the Government and other
> investors would share costs and profit.


Like hell they will. I can't believe this moron's joining in Labour's
election campaign. He'll be in for a bit of a surprise when they win -
and he doesn't!

> Mr Trujillo


, who wouldn't know a principle if he fell over it or a platform if he
fell off it,

> said he did not reject the broad principle of Labor's
> platform, but the detail would need to be clarified before committing
> Telstra or shareholders' money.
>
> "Building a national network [of the kind Labor proposes] would be many
> times more complex [than building the mobile network, Next G]," he said.


But he doesn't need to worry about that, cos he won't be building it.

> The critical issue for Telstra is that it already has a fibre optic
> network linking its phone exchanges across Australia. It would be
> expected to argue that duplicating or overbuilding part or all of its
> infrastructure would not make commercial sense.
>
> Telstra is also likely to expect a Labor government would compensate it
> for using some of its existing network.


Fancy that!



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Old 09-24-2007, 06:04 PM
Rod Speed
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Default Re: Telstra on line again in network discussions

Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote:

> From
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...486137175.html


> TELSTRA could end up building the $8 billion broadband network
> federal Labor has promised to deliver if it wins government.


Unlikely that Rudd is actually that stupid.

> The chief executive of Telstra, Sol Trujillo, said late last week Telstra would examine Labor's plan for a
> public-private partnership with one or more telcos, in effect a re-nationalisation of the phone network.


No it aint, just the broadband network.

> Telstra could consider bidding to build the network and open it on a commercial wholesale basis if Labor wins the
> election.


And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.

> Alternatively, Telstra could follow the lead of British Telecom and set up a separate corporation in which it, the
> Government and other investors would share costs and profit.


And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.

> Mr Trujillo said he did not reject the broad principle of Labor's platform,


What an arrogant fool.

> but the detail would need to be clarified before committing Telstra or shareholders' money.


They're gunna spend the taxpayer's money, fool.

> "Building a national network [of the kind Labor proposes] would be many times more complex [than building the mobile
> network, Next G]," he said.


Must be one of those rocket scientist ****wits.

> The critical issue for Telstra is that it already has a fibre optic network linking its phone exchanges across
> Australia.


And Optarse already has a fibre optic network of its own.

> It would be expected to argue that duplicating or overbuilding part or all of its infrastructure would not make
> commercial sense.


Irrelevant to what Labor is planning to do.

> Telstra is also likely to expect a Labor government would compensate it for using some of its existing network.


It can expect whatever it likes. It gets to wear whatever they decide to do.

In spades with Howard's govt once it gets reelected.



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Old 10-01-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Telstra on line again in network discussions

Just goes to prove that Telstra has become an irrelevant telco wholesaler.

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5lqcgqF9govqU1@mid.individual.net...
> Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>
>> From
>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...486137175.html

>
>> TELSTRA could end up building the $8 billion broadband network
>> federal Labor has promised to deliver if it wins government.

>
> Unlikely that Rudd is actually that stupid.
>
>> The chief executive of Telstra, Sol Trujillo, said late last week Telstra
>> would examine Labor's plan for a public-private partnership with one or
>> more telcos, in effect a re-nationalisation of the phone network.

>
> No it aint, just the broadband network.
>
>> Telstra could consider bidding to build the network and open it on a
>> commercial wholesale basis if Labor wins the election.

>
> And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.
>
>> Alternatively, Telstra could follow the lead of British Telecom and set
>> up a separate corporation in which it, the Government and other investors
>> would share costs and profit.

>
> And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.
>
>> Mr Trujillo said he did not reject the broad principle of Labor's
>> platform,

>
> What an arrogant fool.
>
>> but the detail would need to be clarified before committing Telstra or
>> shareholders' money.

>
> They're gunna spend the taxpayer's money, fool.
>
>> "Building a national network [of the kind Labor proposes] would be many
>> times more complex [than building the mobile network, Next G]," he said.

>
> Must be one of those rocket scientist ****wits.
>
>> The critical issue for Telstra is that it already has a fibre optic
>> network linking its phone exchanges across Australia.

>
> And Optarse already has a fibre optic network of its own.
>
>> It would be expected to argue that duplicating or overbuilding part or
>> all of its infrastructure would not make commercial sense.

>
> Irrelevant to what Labor is planning to do.
>
>> Telstra is also likely to expect a Labor government would compensate it
>> for using some of its existing network.

>
> It can expect whatever it likes. It gets to wear whatever they decide to
> do.
>
> In spades with Howard's govt once it gets reelected.
>




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Old 10-01-2007, 08:25 PM
Rod Speed
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Default Re: Telstra on line again in network discussions

thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Just goes to prove that Telstra has become an irrelevant telco wholesaler.


Nope, and they aint just a wholesaler either.

The vast bulk of new broadband users sign up with telstra.


> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5lqcgqF9govqU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...486137175.html

>>
>>> TELSTRA could end up building the $8 billion broadband network
>>> federal Labor has promised to deliver if it wins government.

>>
>> Unlikely that Rudd is actually that stupid.
>>
>>> The chief executive of Telstra, Sol Trujillo, said late last week
>>> Telstra would examine Labor's plan for a public-private partnership
>>> with one or more telcos, in effect a re-nationalisation of the
>>> phone network.

>>
>> No it aint, just the broadband network.
>>
>>> Telstra could consider bidding to build the network and open it on a
>>> commercial wholesale basis if Labor wins the election.

>>
>> And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.
>>
>>> Alternatively, Telstra could follow the lead of British Telecom and
>>> set up a separate corporation in which it, the Government and other
>>> investors would share costs and profit.

>>
>> And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.
>>
>>> Mr Trujillo said he did not reject the broad principle of Labor's
>>> platform,

>>
>> What an arrogant fool.
>>
>>> but the detail would need to be clarified before committing Telstra
>>> or shareholders' money.

>>
>> They're gunna spend the taxpayer's money, fool.
>>
>>> "Building a national network [of the kind Labor proposes] would be
>>> many times more complex [than building the mobile network, Next
>>> G]," he said.

>>
>> Must be one of those rocket scientist ****wits.
>>
>>> The critical issue for Telstra is that it already has a fibre optic
>>> network linking its phone exchanges across Australia.

>>
>> And Optarse already has a fibre optic network of its own.
>>
>>> It would be expected to argue that duplicating or overbuilding part
>>> or all of its infrastructure would not make commercial sense.

>>
>> Irrelevant to what Labor is planning to do.
>>
>>> Telstra is also likely to expect a Labor government would
>>> compensate it for using some of its existing network.

>>
>> It can expect whatever it likes. It gets to wear whatever they
>> decide to do.
>>
>> In spades with Howard's govt once it gets reelected.




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Old 10-05-2007, 08:17 AM
Michael
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Default Re: Telstra on line again in network discussions


"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:4701090e$0$26482$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Just goes to prove that Telstra has become an irrelevant telco wholesaler.



Then let them behave like a wholesaler, that is, let them "cherry pick" like
everyone else.

This means they can enable ADSL2 on all their ADSL1 exchanges within a
month.

They can do FTTN without anyone else buying it.

Theyd be very happy





>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5lqcgqF9govqU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...486137175.html

>>
>>> TELSTRA could end up building the $8 billion broadband network
>>> federal Labor has promised to deliver if it wins government.

>>
>> Unlikely that Rudd is actually that stupid.
>>
>>> The chief executive of Telstra, Sol Trujillo, said late last week
>>> Telstra would examine Labor's plan for a public-private partnership with
>>> one or more telcos, in effect a re-nationalisation of the phone network.

>>
>> No it aint, just the broadband network.
>>
>>> Telstra could consider bidding to build the network and open it on a
>>> commercial wholesale basis if Labor wins the election.

>>
>> And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.
>>
>>> Alternatively, Telstra could follow the lead of British Telecom and set
>>> up a separate corporation in which it, the Government and other
>>> investors would share costs and profit.

>>
>> And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.
>>
>>> Mr Trujillo said he did not reject the broad principle of Labor's
>>> platform,

>>
>> What an arrogant fool.
>>
>>> but the detail would need to be clarified before committing Telstra or
>>> shareholders' money.

>>
>> They're gunna spend the taxpayer's money, fool.
>>
>>> "Building a national network [of the kind Labor proposes] would be many
>>> times more complex [than building the mobile network, Next G]," he said.

>>
>> Must be one of those rocket scientist ****wits.
>>
>>> The critical issue for Telstra is that it already has a fibre optic
>>> network linking its phone exchanges across Australia.

>>
>> And Optarse already has a fibre optic network of its own.
>>
>>> It would be expected to argue that duplicating or overbuilding part or
>>> all of its infrastructure would not make commercial sense.

>>
>> Irrelevant to what Labor is planning to do.
>>
>>> Telstra is also likely to expect a Labor government would compensate it
>>> for using some of its existing network.

>>
>> It can expect whatever it likes. It gets to wear whatever they decide to
>> do.
>>
>> In spades with Howard's govt once it gets reelected.
>>

>
>
>
> --
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>




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Old 10-05-2007, 10:05 AM
Rod Speed
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Default Re: Telstra on line again in network discussions

Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote


>> Just goes to prove that Telstra has become an irrelevant telco wholesaler.


> Then let them behave like a wholesaler, that is, let them "cherry pick" like everyone else.


It aint wholesalers that do that, its retaillers, stupid.

> This means they can enable ADSL2 on all their ADSL1 exchanges within a month.


Nope.

> They can do FTTN without anyone else buying it.


No they cant, because they are using the national network that we paid for to do that.

> Theyd be very happy


Taint gunna happen, you watch.


>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5lqcgqF9govqU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From
>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...486137175.html
>>>
>>>> TELSTRA could end up building the $8 billion broadband network
>>>> federal Labor has promised to deliver if it wins government.
>>>
>>> Unlikely that Rudd is actually that stupid.
>>>
>>>> The chief executive of Telstra, Sol Trujillo, said late last week
>>>> Telstra would examine Labor's plan for a public-private
>>>> partnership with one or more telcos, in effect a
>>>> re-nationalisation of the phone network.
>>>
>>> No it aint, just the broadband network.
>>>
>>>> Telstra could consider bidding to build the network and open it on
>>>> a commercial wholesale basis if Labor wins the election.
>>>
>>> And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.
>>>
>>>> Alternatively, Telstra could follow the lead of British Telecom
>>>> and set up a separate corporation in which it, the Government and
>>>> other investors would share costs and profit.
>>>
>>> And its unlikely that even Rudd would be stupid enough to buy that.
>>>
>>>> Mr Trujillo said he did not reject the broad principle of Labor's
>>>> platform,
>>>
>>> What an arrogant fool.
>>>
>>>> but the detail would need to be clarified before committing
>>>> Telstra or shareholders' money.
>>>
>>> They're gunna spend the taxpayer's money, fool.
>>>
>>>> "Building a national network [of the kind Labor proposes] would be
>>>> many times more complex [than building the mobile network, Next
>>>> G]," he said.
>>>
>>> Must be one of those rocket scientist ****wits.
>>>
>>>> The critical issue for Telstra is that it already has a fibre optic
>>>> network linking its phone exchanges across Australia.
>>>
>>> And Optarse already has a fibre optic network of its own.
>>>
>>>> It would be expected to argue that duplicating or overbuilding
>>>> part or all of its infrastructure would not make commercial sense.
>>>
>>> Irrelevant to what Labor is planning to do.
>>>
>>>> Telstra is also likely to expect a Labor government would
>>>> compensate it for using some of its existing network.
>>>
>>> It can expect whatever it likes. It gets to wear whatever they
>>> decide to do.
>>>
>>> In spades with Howard's govt once it gets reelected.




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