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Old 02-27-2008, 08:05 AM
Alan Parkington
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Default Telstra linesmen ready the tin snips for CDMA network

From
http://business.smh.com.au/telstra-l...0225-1uq0.html

It looks like a lot of farmers will be clambering over roofs and up trees
after April.

THE likelihood of Telstra switching off its regional mobile-phone network in
late April has increased markedly after the release of a plan to fix
problems.

The Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, yesterday gave details of
measures Telstra would take to allow the closure of the CDMA network on
April 28. The release of the plan is aimed at reassuring CDMA customers that
they will not be worse off using Telstra's NextG mobile-phone network.

Customers should assume the network will be turned off in just over two
months, although it is still subject to Telstra getting the thumbs up in a
report which will address the minister's concerns.

The main sticking point has been concerns about the coverage of NextG mobile
phone handsets. A report from the Australian Communications and Media
Authority found that six NextG handsets - which it did not identify -
appeared to provide less coverage than CDMA phones.

Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to reveal the
number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving rise to speculation
a significant number still exist. But he did say that the CDMA customers
contributed less than 3 per cent of total mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.

In a letter to the minister, Telstra CountryWide's managing director, Geoff
Booth, said the company had been able to agree to a comprehensive plan to
address his concerns.

Telstra's willingness to accept the Rudd Government's decisions is a
dramatic change from the hardball it played with the Howard Government.


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Old 02-27-2008, 08:55 AM
Will Kemp
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Default Re: Telstra linesmen ready the tin snips for CDMA network

"Tin snips" sounds just about right. No doubt that's the only piece of
equipment that Tel$cum issue their techs. But i'm not sure what
"linesmen" have to do with CDMA.

Maybe they're going to cut the phone lines in the CDMA system with their
tin snips!

These subs really haven't got a clue, have they?

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:05:29 +0000, Alan Parkington wrote:

> From
> http://business.smh.com.au/telstra-l...tin-snips-for-

cdma-network/20080225-1uq0.html
>
> It looks like a lot of farmers will be clambering over roofs and up
> trees after April.
>
> THE likelihood of Telstra switching off its regional mobile-phone
> network in late April has increased markedly after the release of a plan
> to fix problems.
>
> The Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, yesterday gave details of
> measures Telstra would take to allow the closure of the CDMA network on
> April 28. The release of the plan is aimed at reassuring CDMA customers
> that they will not be worse off using Telstra's NextG mobile-phone
> network.
>
> Customers should assume the network will be turned off in just over two
> months, although it is still subject to Telstra getting the thumbs up in
> a report which will address the minister's concerns.
>
> The main sticking point has been concerns about the coverage of NextG
> mobile phone handsets. A report from the Australian Communications and
> Media Authority found that six NextG handsets - which it did not
> identify - appeared to provide less coverage than CDMA phones.
>
> Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to reveal the
> number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving rise to
> speculation a significant number still exist. But he did say that the
> CDMA customers contributed less than 3 per cent of total mobile revenue
> of $3.19 billion.
>
> In a letter to the minister, Telstra CountryWide's managing director,
> Geoff Booth, said the company had been able to agree to a comprehensive
> plan to address his concerns.
>
> Telstra's willingness to accept the Rudd Government's decisions is a
> dramatic change from the hardball it played with the Howard Government.


Telstra's "willingness" is neither here nor there. They don't get a
choice!

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Old 02-27-2008, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Telstra linesmen ready the tin snips for CDMA network

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:05:29 GMT, "Alan Parkington"
<a.parkington@team.telstra.net> wrote:

>From
>http://business.smh.com.au/telstra-l...0225-1uq0.html
>
>It looks like a lot of farmers will be clambering over roofs and up trees
>after April.


trying to find that elusive spot where NextG works? Yep, what we all expected.

>THE likelihood of Telstra switching off its regional mobile-phone network in
>late April has increased markedly after the release of a plan to fix
>problems.


Problems? But hang about Parky, you said that there weren't any issues and that
NextG was every bit as good as CDMA back in December.

>The Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, yesterday gave details of
>measures Telstra would take to allow the closure of the CDMA network on
>April 28. The release of the plan is aimed at reassuring CDMA customers that
>they will not be worse off using Telstra's NextG mobile-phone network.
>
>Customers should assume the network will be turned off in just over two
>months, although it is still subject to Telstra getting the thumbs up in a
>report which will address the minister's concerns.


Indeed it is.

>The main sticking point has been concerns about the coverage of NextG mobile
>phone handsets. A report from the Australian Communications and Media
>Authority found that six NextG handsets - which it did not identify -
>appeared to provide less coverage than CDMA phones.


and who has been selling these inferior nextG handsets?

>Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to reveal the
>number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving rise to speculation
>a significant number still exist. But he did say that the CDMA customers
>contributed less than 3 per cent of total mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.


seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional foray into
non-GSM territory, that probably means around half a million subs still.

>In a letter to the minister, Telstra CountryWide's managing director, Geoff
>Booth, said the company had been able to agree to a comprehensive plan to
>address his concerns.


They had no choice, boy.

>Telstra's willingness to accept the Rudd Government's decisions is a
>dramatic change from the hardball it played with the Howard Government.


They had no choice about accepting the decisions of the govt (regardless of
colour), given the changes made to their license conditions.

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Old 02-27-2008, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Telstra linesmen ready the tin snips for CDMA network

In your dreams.

Alan Parkington <a.parkington@team.telstra.net> wrote:

> From
> http://business.smh.com.au/telstra-l...0225-1uq0.html


> It looks like a lot of farmers will be clambering over roofs and up trees after April.


Or applying the knife to the local telstra staff's balls.

> THE likelihood of Telstra switching off its regional mobile-phone network in late April has increased markedly after
> the release of a plan to fix problems.


Pig arse it has.

> The Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, yesterday gave details of measures Telstra would take to allow the
> closure of the CDMA network on April 28.


Nope.

> The release of the plan is aimed at reassuring CDMA customers that they will not be worse off using Telstra's NextG
> mobile-phone network.


And it remains to be seen if anyone is stupid enough to buy that line.

> Customers should assume the network will be turned off in just over two months,


No point in assuming that.

> although it is still subject to Telstra getting the thumbs up in a report which will address the minister's concerns.


So your claim is a pig ignorant lie.

> The main sticking point has been concerns about the coverage of NextG mobile phone handsets.


Thats just Telstra's lie.

> A report from the Australian Communications and Media Authority found that six NextG handsets - which it did not
> identify - appeared to provide less coverage than CDMA phones.


And it also found that in some areas the handset wasnt the problem.

> Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to reveal
> the number of customers still using the CDMA network,


And there has to be a reason for that.

> giving rise to speculation a significant number still exist.


Corse they do.

> But he did say that the CDMA customers contributed less than 3 per cent of total mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.


Irrelevant to whether you will be allowed to turn the cdma system off, wogboy.

> In a letter to the minister, Telstra CountryWide's managing director, Geoff Booth, said the company had been able to
> agree to a comprehensive plan to address his concerns.


And it remains to be seen if that will actually do a damned thing.

> Telstra's willingness to accept the Rudd Government's decisions is a
> dramatic change from the hardball it played with the Howard Government.


More mindless pig ignorant journoshit. They didnt with the
$4.7B handout that the dud was stupid enough to promise.



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Old 02-28-2008, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: Telstra linesmen ready the tin snips for CDMA network

More farmers will die from bee stings.



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Old 03-01-2008, 02:40 AM
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"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> "Tin snips" sounds just about right. No doubt that's the only piece of
> equipment that Tel$cum issue their techs. But i'm not sure what
> "linesmen" have to do with CDMA.
>
> Maybe they're going to cut the phone lines in the CDMA system with their
> tin snips!
>
> These subs really haven't got a clue, have they?


NFI



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Old 03-01-2008, 02:41 AM
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>>Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to reveal the
>>number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving rise to
>>speculation
>>a significant number still exist. But he did say that the CDMA customers
>>contributed less than 3 per cent of total mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.

>
> seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional foray into
> non-GSM territory, that probably means around half a million subs still.


No, substantially less than that.

And most of them are non-viable CDMA services with $0 credit which will be
disconnected at the end of the month




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Old 03-01-2008, 02:41 AM
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"Core2Duo" <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote in message
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> More farmers will die from bee stings.


You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of 000

>
>




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Old 03-01-2008, 03:57 AM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

>>> Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to
>>> reveal the number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving rise to speculation a significant number still
>>> exist. But he did say that the CDMA customers contributed less than 3 per cent of total mobile revenue of $3.19
>>> billion.


>> seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional foray into non-GSM territory, that probably means
>> around half a million subs still.


> No, substantially less than that.


Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> And most of them are non-viable CDMA services with $0 credit which will be disconnected at the end of the month


Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

If the numbers were anything like what you claim, the mexican fuckwit
wouldnt have any reason to not actually say what the numbers actually are.



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Old 03-01-2008, 04:00 AM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Core2Duo <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote


>> More farmers will die from bee stings.


> You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of 000


Pity that its just a tad hard to tell the ambulance where to go
when you are in the middle of some paddock and have just
knocked down a tree with some bees in it and the medication
you need to save your life happens to be at the pub.



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Old 03-01-2008, 09:24 AM
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On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 03:41:00 +0000, Michael wrote:

>>>Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to reveal
>>>the number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving rise to
>>>speculation
>>>a significant number still exist. But he did say that the CDMA
>>>customers contributed less than 3 per cent of total mobile revenue of
>>>$3.19 billion.

>>
>> seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional foray
>> into non-GSM territory, that probably means around half a million subs
>> still.

>
> No, substantially less than that.


What, 499,000?

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Old 03-05-2008, 11:27 PM
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"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Core2Duo" <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:4Uuxj.20313$421.14414@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> More farmers will die from bee stings.

>
> You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of 000
>


His phone call to the PUB did not even work, and could have saved his life
it if did.

You've not taken into account the actual circumstances.
Typical of you.



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Old 03-22-2008, 03:00 PM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>>>> Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to
>>>> reveal the number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving
>>>> rise to speculation a significant number still exist. But he did say
>>>> that the CDMA customers contributed less than 3 per cent of total
>>>> mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.

>
>>> seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional foray
>>> into non-GSM territory, that probably means around half a million subs
>>> still.

>
>> No, substantially less than that.

>
> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.


That's true, its commercial in confidence.

>> And most of them are non-viable CDMA services with $0 credit which will
>> be disconnected at the end of the month

>
> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.


As avive

> If the numbers were anything like what you claim, the mexican fuckwit
> wouldnt have any reason to not actually say what the numbers actually are.


They are CIC so of course he wouldnt reveal them



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Old 03-22-2008, 03:00 PM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Core2Duo <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote

>
>>> More farmers will die from bee stings.

>
>> You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of 000

>
> Pity that its just a tad hard to tell the ambulance where to go
> when you are in the middle of some paddock and have just
> knocked down a tree with some bees in it and the medication
> you need to save your life happens to be at the pub.


Rod, you should always ring 000 first



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Old 03-22-2008, 03:01 PM
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"Core2Duo" <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Jf4yj.20849$421.1537@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Core2Duo" <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:4Uuxj.20313$421.14414@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> More farmers will die from bee stings.

>>
>> You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of 000
>>

>
> His phone call to the PUB did not even work, and could have saved his life
> it if did.
>
> You've not taken into account the actual circumstances.
> Typical of you.


Thats very true, because I'm not aware of the actual circumstances



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Old 03-22-2008, 04:33 PM
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"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> trying to find that elusive spot where NextG works?


That's not Telstra's fault.
Men have been trying to find the G spot for decades. Few that I know have
succeeded.

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Old 03-22-2008, 09:18 PM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote


>>>>> Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to
>>>>> reveal the number of customers still using the CDMA network,
>>>>> giving rise to speculation a significant number still exist. But
>>>>> he did say that the CDMA customers contributed less than 3 per
>>>>> cent of total mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.


>>>> seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional foray into non-GSM territory, that probably means
>>>> around half a million subs still.


>>> No, substantially less than that.


>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.


> That's true, its commercial in confidence.


Bare faced lie.

>>> And most of them are non-viable CDMA services with $0 credit which will be disconnected at the end of the month


>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.


> As avive


No such animal.

>> If the numbers were anything like what you claim, the mexican fuckwit
>> wouldnt have any reason to not actually say what the numbers actually are.


> They are CIC so of course he wouldnt reveal them


Bare faced lie.



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Old 03-22-2008, 09:20 PM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Core2Duo <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote


>>>> More farmers will die from bee stings.


>>> You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of 000


>> Pity that its just a tad hard to tell the ambulance where to go
>> when you are in the middle of some paddock and have just
>> knocked down a tree with some bees in it and the medication
>> you need to save your life happens to be at the pub.


> Rod, you should always ring 000 first


Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
had a fucking clue. How do you propose to tell 000 where you are when
its in fred's back paddock where you're pushing some trees over ?



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Old 03-22-2008, 09:23 PM
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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Core2Duo <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Core2Duo <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote


>>>> More farmers will die from bee stings.


>>> You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of 000


>> His phone call to the PUB did not even work, and could have saved his life it if did.


>> You've not taken into account the actual circumstances.
>> Typical of you.


> Thats very true, because I'm not aware of the actual circumstances


Thats always been obvious.

He was pushing some trees over well away from any roads, in the middle
of some paddock, with a dozer, with the bees in one of the trees he pushed over.



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Old 03-23-2008, 02:39 AM
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:00:31 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:62s62hF251djvU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to
>>>>> reveal the number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving
>>>>> rise to speculation a significant number still exist. But he did say
>>>>> that the CDMA customers contributed less than 3 per cent of total
>>>>> mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.

>>
>>>> seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional foray
>>>> into non-GSM territory, that probably means around half a million subs
>>>> still.

>>
>>> No, substantially less than that.

>>
>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

>
>That's true, its commercial in confidence.


What a lame excuse. CIC is really about information you have from *others* that
you are bound not to reveal because you obtained it under privelege. Tel$tra's
own data on the number of CDMA subs isn't in that category.

Tel$tra have that information, it is *their* information, they can reveal it any
time they like. They are only serving their own lame NextG transition arguments
by not revealing the huge size of the residual CDMA fleet, figuring that
revealing the truth would torpedo their arguments that CDMA users are flocking
to NextG.

>>> And most of them are non-viable CDMA services with $0 credit which will
>>> be disconnected at the end of the month

>>
>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

>
>As avive


Whatever that is.

As above.

>> If the numbers were anything like what you claim, the mexican fuckwit
>> wouldnt have any reason to not actually say what the numbers actually are.

>
>They are CIC so of course he wouldnt reveal them


Crap. See above.

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Old 03-23-2008, 02:43 AM
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:33:55 +1100, "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com>
wrote:

>
>"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:khqas3d1k4dg90rum6plks3ff84dg3r2ni@4ax.com.. .
>
>> trying to find that elusive spot where NextG works?

>
>That's not Telstra's fault.
>Men have been trying to find the G spot for decades. Few that I know have
>succeeded.


Not THAT elusive spot, the NEXT G-spot ;-)

And clearly in appointing the mex and his amigos, the board didn't ask them if
THEY could find it. Or they lied (again).

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Old 03-23-2008, 08:02 AM
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:43:32 +0800, rebel wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:33:55 +1100, "Kwyjibo"
> <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>news:khqas3d1k4dg90rum6plks3ff84dg3r2ni@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>> trying to find that elusive spot where NextG works?

>>
>>That's not Telstra's fault.
>>Men have been trying to find the G spot for decades. Few that I know
>>have succeeded.

>
> Not THAT elusive spot, the NEXT G-spot ;-)


That's the one. Everyone knows where it's supposed to be, but it never
seems to work when you're there!

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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:20:57 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> Core2Duo <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote

>
>>>>> More farmers will die from bee stings.

>
>>>> You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of 000

>
>>> Pity that its just a tad hard to tell the ambulance where to go when
>>> you are in the middle of some paddock and have just knocked down a
>>> tree with some bees in it and the medication you need to save your
>>> life happens to be at the pub.

>
>> Rod, you should always ring 000 first

>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
> had a fucking clue. How do you propose to tell 000 where you are when
> its in fred's back paddock where you're pushing some trees over ?


He thinks the bush is all neatly divided up into streets, complete with
road signs and house numbers - like Melbourne (well, apart from the road
signs and house numbers, that is).

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Old 03-23-2008, 08:30 AM
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Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:20:57 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> Core2Duo <Core2Duo@theinternet.com> wrote

>>
>>>>>> More farmers will die from bee stings.

>>
>>>>> You sure will, if your first phone call is to the PUB instead of
>>>>> 000

>>
>>>> Pity that its just a tad hard to tell the ambulance where to go
>>>> when you are in the middle of some paddock and have just knocked
>>>> down a tree with some bees in it and the medication you need to
>>>> save your life happens to be at the pub.

>>
>>> Rod, you should always ring 000 first

>>
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
>> had a fucking clue. How do you propose to tell 000 where you are when
>> its in fred's back paddock where you're pushing some trees over ?

>
> He thinks the bush is all neatly divided up into streets, complete
> with road signs and house numbers - like Melbourne (well, apart from
> the road signs and house numbers, that is).


I doubt he's quite that bad, but he clearly has never tried to tell someone
like 000 where he is in someones paddock well away from the road etc.

All you can ever do is say its fred's place etc, and thats not normally
any use to anyone except those down the pub or your mate etc.



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"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:00:31 GMT, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to
>>>>>> reveal the number of customers still using the CDMA network, giving
>>>>>> rise to speculation a significant number still exist. But he did say
>>>>>> that the CDMA customers contributed less than 3 per cent of total
>>>>>> mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.
>>>
>>>>> seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional foray
>>>>> into non-GSM territory, that probably means around half a million subs
>>>>> still.
>>>
>>>> No, substantially less than that.
>>>
>>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

>>
>>That's true, its commercial in confidence.

>
> What a lame excuse. CIC is really about information you have from *others*
> that
> you are bound not to reveal because you obtained it under privelege.


Wrong.

> Tel$tra's
> own data on the number of CDMA subs isn't in that category.
>


How would you know? You've already shown that you dodn't even understand
what CIC is in the first place.

> Tel$tra have that information, it is *their* information, they can reveal
> it any
> time they like.


They *can*, but don't have to.

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Old 03-23-2008, 02:39 PM
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"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:43:32 +0800, rebel wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:33:55 +1100, "Kwyjibo"
>> <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>news:khqas3d1k4dg90rum6plks3ff84dg3r2ni@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>> trying to find that elusive spot where NextG works?
>>>
>>>That's not Telstra's fault.
>>>Men have been trying to find the G spot for decades. Few that I know
>>>have succeeded.

>>
>> Not THAT elusive spot, the NEXT G-spot ;-)

>
> That's the one. Everyone knows where it's supposed to be, but it never
> seems to work when you're there!


And, much like the G spot, I don't really care if it works or not.

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Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
> rebel <me@privacy.net> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote


>>>>>>> Telstra's chief executive, Sol Trujillo, refused last week to
>>>>>>> reveal the number of customers still using the CDMA network,
>>>>>>> giving rise to speculation a significant number still exist.
>>>>>>> But he did say that the CDMA customers contributed less than 3
>>>>>>> per cent of total mobile revenue of $3.19 billion.


>>>>>> seeing many of them are (like mine) used on the very occasional
>>>>>> foray into non-GSM territory, that probably means around half a
>>>>>> million subs still.


>>>>> No, substantially less than that.


>>>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.


>>> That's true, its commercial in confidence.


>> What a lame excuse. CIC is really about information you have from *others* that you are bound not to reveal because
>> you obtained it under privelege.


> Wrong.


>> Tel$tra's own data on the number of CDMA subs isn't in that category.


> How would you know?


Its obvious. That system is being turned off, fuckwit.

> You've already shown that you dodn't even
> understand what CIC is in the first place.


And you have just shown that you dont have a clue about what telstra can do with
that info any time they like, just like they can with the numbers now using NextG too.

>> Tel$tra have that information, it is *their* information, they can reveal it any time they like.


> They *can*, but don't have to.


But when they do with the numbers using the NextG system, and dont with
the number who havent bothered to change to the NextG system for whatever
reason, only a fool would be stupid enough to buy the lie that they cant say
how many are still on the cdma system because that info is CIC, fuckwit.

AND its only a stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child that even claims that anyway.



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>> Rod, you should always ring 000 first
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
> had a fucking clue. How do you propose to tell 000 where you are when
> its in fred's back paddock where you're pushing some trees over ?


You can give them a locality, better than nothing. Better to have an
ambulance out looking for the exact location rather than nothing.

Your next call can be to the pub
>
>




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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>> Rod, you should always ring 000 first


>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
>> had a fucking clue. How do you propose to tell 000 where you are when
>> its in fred's back paddock where you're pushing some trees over ?


> You can give them a locality,


Completely fucking useless, guaranteed to see him dead.

> better than nothing.


The alternative aint nothing, fuckwit. Its ringing up
someone who knows were you say you are is.

> Better to have an ambulance out looking for the exact location rather than nothing.


The alternative aint nothing, fuckwit.

> Your next call can be to the pub


Your first call should be to someone who can understand where you are, fuckwit.



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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Rod, you should always ring 000 first

>
>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
>>> had a fucking clue. How do you propose to tell 000 where you are when
>>> its in fred's back paddock where you're pushing some trees over ?

>
>> You can give them a locality,

>
> Completely fucking useless, guaranteed to see him dead.
>
>> better than nothing.

>
> The alternative aint nothing, fuckwit. Its ringing up
> someone who knows were you say you are is.


You arent limited to one phone call (hopefully)

>> Better to have an ambulance out looking for the exact location rather
>> than nothing.

>
> The alternative aint nothing, fuckwit.
>
>> Your next call can be to the pub

>
> Your first call should be to someone who can understand where you are,
> fuckwit.


Disagree.
>
>




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