Missus and I want to take our mobile phones to Singapore.
Will only use them to call each other (or text) when not together.
Telstra shop "gurus" keep waxing on about replacing sim cards or calling
back to Aus.
Am I wrong to assume that after I get Roaming "activated", and amend our
mobile numbers to the required
+61 and drop the first O, that we just call each other, and eventually pay
the extra fee for the call being handled by Singtel to Telstra and then
back from Telstra to Singtel?
The "guide" from Telstra deems to suggest that Singapore charges are made
up of:
National Call
Call to Aus
Telstra charge to receive
Call set up fee
Incoming call
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:24:51 Sunny may have written:
> Missus and I want to take our mobile phones to Singapore.
> Will only use them to call each other (or text) when not together.
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
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| On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:24:51 Sunny may have written:
| > Missus and I want to take our mobile phones to Singapore.
| > Will only use them to call each other (or text) when not together.
|
| http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/net...ubmit_gsm.y=13
|
| So, approximately (varies depending on which network you use):
|
| SMS: 40c (you)
| Call: $1.14/min (you) + 40c + 40c/min + 68c/min (her)
Thanks, looks like a choice between $2.60 per call for one or two calls,
and the cost of two sim cards for $36.
(with two new phone Nos)
> The "guide" from Telstra deems to suggest that Singapore charges are made
> up of:
> National Call
> Call to Aus
> Telstra charge to receive
> Call set up fee
> Incoming call
That sounds about right. International roaming is fucking expensive, no
matter how it's done.
You'd be better off buying a couple of pre-paid SIM cards when you're in
Singapore and using them while you're there. Assuming, of course, that
your phones are able to work on Singapore's phone networks.
> Thanks, looks like a choice between $2.60 per call for one or two calls,
> and the cost of two sim cards for $36.
> (with two new phone Nos)
That's if you make one or two calls only. If you spend the $36 then you
may wish to make more use of it, particularly if you wish to call home or
whether you wish to receive calls from family or friends while away.
After a visit to the US and taking up Telstra's "advice" that
international roaming was the way to go, when we got back we were
receiving bills 3 months later. All up it cost over $500 for the few calls
that were made or received. Next time it will be pre-paid SIMs or a couple
of "disposable" phones when we get there.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:26:16 Sunny may have written:
> Thanks, looks like a choice between $2.60 per call for one or two
> calls, and the cost of two sim cards for $36. (with two new phone Nos)
Or simply stick with SMS only and divert all calls to voice-mail, where
you have a message telling people you're overseas and to contact you
when you get back or send you an email.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Sunny wrote...
>
>> Thanks, looks like a choice between $2.60 per call for one or two calls,
>> and the cost of two sim cards for $36.
>> (with two new phone Nos)
>
> That's if you make one or two calls only. If you spend the $36 then you
> may wish to make more use of it, particularly if you wish to call home or
> whether you wish to receive calls from family or friends while away.
>
> After a visit to the US and taking up Telstra's "advice" that
> international roaming was the way to go, when we got back we were
> receiving bills 3 months later. All up it cost over $500 for the few calls
> that were made or received. Next time it will be pre-paid SIMs or a couple
> of "disposable" phones when we get there.
>
>
>
Take them to the Ombudsman due to inappropriate advice given, when they
should have had knowledge/expertise to advise you of a reasonable course of
action.
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
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| On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:26:16 Sunny may have written:
| > Thanks, looks like a choice between $2.60 per call for one or two
| > calls, and the cost of two sim cards for $36. (with two new phone Nos)
|
| Or simply stick with SMS only and divert all calls to voice-mail, where
| you have a message telling people you're overseas and to contact you
| when you get back or send you an email.
Thanks, probably what I will do, the mobiles will only be switched on if
we are not together.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:21:42 Sunny may have written:
> | Or simply stick with SMS only and divert all calls to voice-mail, where
> | you have a message telling people you're overseas and to contact you
> | when you get back or send you an email.
>
> Thanks, probably what I will do, the mobiles will only be switched on if
> we are not together.
No harm in leaving them on 24/7. Means folk back home can contact you in
a hurry via SMS if need be. Doesn't cost you anything.
> After a visit to the US and taking up Telstra's "advice" that
> international roaming was the way to go, when we got back we were
> receiving bills 3 months later. All up it cost over $500 for the few calls
>> After a visit to the US and taking up Telstra's "advice" that
>> international roaming was the way to go, when we got back we were
>> receiving bills 3 months later. All up it cost over $500 for the few
>> calls
>> that were made or received. Next time it will be pre-paid SIMs or a
>> couple
>> of "disposable" phones when we get there.
>>
> Take them to the Ombudsman due to inappropriate advice given, when they
> should have had knowledge/expertise to advise you of a reasonable course
> of action.
> > After a visit to the US and taking up Telstra's "advice" that
> > international roaming was the way to go, when we got back we were
> > receiving bills 3 months later. All up it cost over $500 for the few calls
>
> Whats your point?
I thought that it was fairly obvious. That international roaming is
hideously expensive and that the quality of Telstra "advice" is
questionable, to say the least.
We're getting "disposable" phones when we're over there next. Either that
or purchase a pre-paid SIM for my wife's Nokia which will work O/S.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> > After a visit to the US and taking up Telstra's "advice" that
>> > international roaming was the way to go, when we got back we were
>> > receiving bills 3 months later. All up it cost over $500 for the few
>> > calls
>>
>> Whats your point?
>
> I thought that it was fairly obvious.
No, you were vague and pointless.
> That international roaming is
> hideously expensive and that the quality of Telstra "advice" is
You knew that going in. Rates are set by the OS carrier, with a Telstra
markup. Telstra has no control over the end price
"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
> news:48163ca6$1$28635$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> Michael wrote...
>>
>>> > After a visit to the US and taking up Telstra's "advice" that
>>> > international roaming was the way to go, when we got back we were
>>> > receiving bills 3 months later. All up it cost over $500 for the few
>>> > calls
>>>
>>> Whats your point?
>>
>> I thought that it was fairly obvious.
>
> No, you were vague and pointless.
>
>> That international roaming is
>> hideously expensive and that the quality of Telstra "advice" is
>
> You knew that going in. Rates are set by the OS carrier, with a Telstra
> markup. Telstra has no control over the end price
Lie. And you even managed to contradict yourself within the space of two
sentences.
Stupidity like that requires a special kind of talent. Well done Mikey.
> >> Whats your point?
> >
> > I thought that it was fairly obvious.
>
> No, you were vague and pointless.
No. It was obvious. However, what IS obvious is that you failed to either
comprehend it or are refusing to acknowledge what I said.
> You knew that going in. Rates are set by the OS carrier, with a Telstra
> markup. Telstra has no control over the end price
When we researched this, the information was difficult to source,
particularly the quantums. So, when the bills started rolling in, we were
expecting them to be high, but not as high as they eventually turned out
to be.
> > questionable, to say the least.
>
> What was questionable about it'
Telstra said that International Roaming was the cheapest way and most
efficient way to do this. However, that "advice" was incorrect. It
would've been far cheaper to buy a pre-paid SIM or get a cheap throwaway
phone over there on a pre-paid plan.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
| Telstra said that International Roaming was the cheapest way and most
| efficient way to do this. However, that "advice" was incorrect. It
| would've been far cheaper to buy a pre-paid SIM or get a cheap throwaway
| phone over there on a pre-paid plan.
Depends what each individual intends to use the phone for.
Mobile roaming is cheaper if only used between a couple for keeping in
touch, if separated.
Pre paid sim and throw away phones for two people start at $250 (eg
Singapore)
(And new phone numbers etc)
a phone card for any calls back to Aus. and leave the mobiles at home
works well.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> >> Whats your point?
>> >
>> > I thought that it was fairly obvious.
>>
>> No, you were vague and pointless.
>
> No. It was obvious. However, what IS obvious is that you failed to either
> comprehend it or are refusing to acknowledge what I said.
>
>> You knew that going in. Rates are set by the OS carrier, with a Telstra
>> markup. Telstra has no control over the end price
>
> When we researched this, the information was difficult to source,
> particularly the quantums. So, when the bills started rolling in, we were
Quantums? WTF?
The rates are on the website,
> expecting them to be high, but not as high as they eventually turned out
> to be.
The rates are on the website, WTF?
>> What was questionable about it'
>
> Telstra said that International Roaming was the cheapest way and most
> efficient way to do this. However, that "advice" was incorrect. It
It is the most efficient way to do it. Telstra did not guarantee you it was
cheapest - show proof
> > When we researched this, the information was difficult to source,
> > particularly the quantums. So, when the bills started rolling in, we were
>
> Quantums? WTF?
Look it up in a dictionary.
> The rates are on the website,
For Say, Bell South, AT&T or whatever carrier that you're using when
overseas?
> It is the most efficient way to do it. Telstra did not guarantee you it was
> cheapest - show proof
It is not the "most efficient" way of doing it. Buying a pre-paid when you
get there is. Charge the SIM then when you're finished with it throw it
out or give it to someone. No bullshit bills to worry about when you get
home.
As for "proof", easy to say when you know that I didn't record the Telstra
droid when we were researching this and when it recommended that we hook
up for international roaming.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> > When we researched this, the information was difficult to source,
>> > particularly the quantums. So, when the bills started rolling in, we
>> > were
>>
>> Quantums? WTF?
>
> Look it up in a dictionary.
What a fucking load of Yank wank. Speak English you idiot
>> The rates are on the website,
>
> For Say, Bell South, AT&T or whatever carrier that you're using when
> overseas?
Clearly.
>> It is the most efficient way to do it. Telstra did not guarantee you it
>> was
>> cheapest - show proof
>
> It is not the "most efficient" way of doing it. Buying a pre-paid when you
It sure was, every time I've gone overseas I've just used my International
Roaming on my Telstra postpaid mobile
> get there is. Charge the SIM then when you're finished with it throw it
And what of the countries that require proof of residence? Huh?
> out or give it to someone. No bullshit bills to worry about when you get
> home.
Just bullshit where other people have to learn other numbers, possibly a
number for every country.
Load of wank
> As for "proof", easy to say when you know that I didn't record the Telstra
> droid when we were researching this and when it recommended that we hook
> up for international roaming.
> >> Quantums? WTF?
> >
> > Look it up in a dictionary.
>
> What a fucking load of Yank wank. Speak English you idiot
I am. Not my fault that you're semi-literate.
> > get there is. Charge the SIM then when you're finished with it throw it
>
> And what of the countries that require proof of residence? Huh?
Yep, you give them your hotel as "proof of residence". And which countries
require this?
> > As for "proof", easy to say when you know that I didn't record the Telstra
> > droid when we were researching this and when it recommended that we hook
> > up for international roaming.
>
> Then prove it.
How about you go fuck yourself. I don't need to prove anything to you or anyone
else. You can choose to believe or disbelieve me. I don't really care.
On Sun, 11 May 2008 10:55:58 Snapper may have written:
> > >> Quantums? WTF?
> > >
> > > Look it up in a dictionary.
> >
> > What a fucking load of Yank wank. Speak English you idiot
>
> I am. Not my fault that you're semi-literate.
Looks like I'm semi-literate too then, because I have no idea what a
"quantum" is with regards to mobile roaming.
"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 May 2008 10:55:58 Snapper may have written:
>> > >> Quantums? WTF?
>> > >
>> > > Look it up in a dictionary.
>> >
>> > What a fucking load of Yank wank. Speak English you idiot
>>
>> I am. Not my fault that you're semi-literate.
>
> Looks like I'm semi-literate too then, because I have no idea what a
> "quantum" is with regards to mobile roaming.
"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul Day wrote...
>
>> Looks like I'm semi-literate too then, because I have no idea what a
>> "quantum" is with regards to mobile roaming.
>
> You'd have to read my message and the context with which I used the word.
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