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Old 02-16-2008, 08:09 AM
Michael
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Default Re: Telstra offers Next G migration plans


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:616dnnF1ta5t5U2@mid.individual.net...
>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:60mbbpF1rdv8eU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5vmsfvF1a7l3pU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> Alan Parkington <alanparkington@team.telstra.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>> http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/defa...rticleID=28978
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Telstra has urged customers to take advantage of two special
>>>>>>>> offers for moving from CDMA to the Next G network before they
>>>>>>>> are withdrawn from the market.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And after they lied about that sort of thing previously...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The company has confirmed the $100 credit for post-paid
>>>>>>>> customers migrating from CDMA to the Telstra Next G network on
>>>>>>>> an eligible plan and the $50 cash back available to CDMA
>>>>>>>> customers purchasing the pre-paid Samsung A411 Next G handset
>>>>>>>> would both end on 28 January 2008.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they are actually that stupid...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> done and dusted
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll see...
>>>>
>>>> The offer is ALREADY over Rod, it ended Jan 28, fuckwit
>>>
>>> What matters is what else turns up, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit
>>> child.

>
>> Too bad about your dog fart of a comment.
>> "would both end on 28 January 2008."
>> YOU: "If they are actually that stupid..."

>
> What matters is whether they have any more, you stupid dunny cleaning
> fuckwit child.


Glad we agree that you were wrong when you claimed they would end on 28 jan

They may well have new incentives, but doubtful for consumer customers



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Old 02-16-2008, 08:11 AM
Michael
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Default Re: Telstra offers Next G migration plans

>>>>> I am not keen in moving off my SC mobile arrangements and having to
>>>>> dump handsets that are still good for a far more expensive setup that
>>>>> more then likely will be on a 2 year contract.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to buy one of the prepaids at $149.
>>>>
>>> Why should I have to move to a more expensive setup?

>>
>> You dont have to, feel free to disconnect

>
> perhaps


Isnt life grand?

You can connect to NextG, Optus GSM, Voda GSM, 3 3G, Optus 3G, Voda 3G or
disconnect

>>> I already have a functioning handset and an agreement with a provider.


And your agreement ends shortly

>>> Why doesn't Telstra give me an equivalent handset and a call plan
>>> equivalent to what I have?

>>
>> Because they arent a charity and dont owe you anything

>
> They bleat enough that perhaps they think they are


Whinger

> As a shareholder they owe me far more then they are giving me


Then sell your shares. Welcome to the capital markets

> They aren't very good at customer service either from what I can see


Then sell your shares

> Getting others to resell their products and then leaving them all in the
> lurch


What lurch? Theyve had 2 years notice

>>> Perhaps I will be able to use the CDMA handsets for quite a while yet!

>>
>> Maybe. Very doubtful you will get any usage out of it past Apr 28

>
> not over yet


Until the fat lady sings

>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




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Old 02-16-2008, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Telstra offers Next G migration plans

Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Alan Parkington <alanparkington@team.telstra.net> wrote


>>>>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>>> http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/defa...rticleID=28978


>>>>>>>>> Telstra has urged customers to take advantage of two special
>>>>>>>>> offers for moving from CDMA to the Next G network before they
>>>>>>>>> are withdrawn from the market.


>>>>>>>> And after they lied about that sort of thing previously...


>>>>>>>>> The company has confirmed the $100 credit for post-paid
>>>>>>>>> customers migrating from CDMA to the Telstra Next G network on
>>>>>>>>> an eligible plan and the $50 cash back available to CDMA
>>>>>>>>> customers purchasing the pre-paid Samsung A411 Next G handset
>>>>>>>>> would both end on 28 January 2008.


>>>>>>>> If they are actually that stupid...


>>>>>>> done and dusted


>>>>>> We'll see...


>>>>> The offer is ALREADY over Rod, it ended Jan 28, fuckwit


>>>> What matters is what else turns up, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.


>>> Too bad about your dog fart of a comment.
>>> "would both end on 28 January 2008."
>>> YOU: "If they are actually that stupid..."


>> What matters is whether they have any more, you stupid dunny cleaning fuckwit child.


> Glad we agree that you were wrong when you claimed they would end on 28 jan


Pity I never ever claimed any such thing, you stupid lying dunny cleaning fuckwit child.

> They may well have new incentives,


So the original that you'd better get in before 28 jan to use one is a bare faced lie.

> but doubtful for consumer customers


We'll see...



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Old 04-06-2008, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Telstra offers Next G migration plans


"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alan Parkington" <alanparkington@team.telstra.net> wrote in message
> news:9kmlj.5944$421.3864@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> From
>> http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/defa...rticleID=28978
>>
>> The majority of the CDMA customer base has migrated to the Next G
>> network, and the company added that it is unlikely to introduce any new
>> customer migration offers prior to the scheduled CDMA network closure on
>> 28 April 2008.

>
> Which may need to be pushed back again......
>
> The info I have is that, as of a week ago, there are still in the vicinity
> of 280,000 services still on CDMA. That's services that are actively


That's a reasonably close estimate.

> registering with a base station, not just idle accounts.


Billing system doesnt know whether a service is "registering with a base".

Prepaids are often allowed to be "dormant" - that is, Telstra does not
always enforce disconnection after the "recharge only" period.
In other words, they dont always disconnect you as early as they should.

However, prepaids are up to date in terms of dormancy.

So the entire customer base (retail) is non-dormant (billing), but that
doesnt mean they've been switched on lately. Many people have their CDMA on
a $10 plan (or $4.95) sitting in the glovebox or whatever

> While some are undoubtedly handsets, a large number are believed to be
> remote telemetry units in use by various utilities, railways, mines and
> other companies, and won't be quite as easy to upgrade as a regular voice
> handset.


Nope. Businesses went early and almost all of those are migrated.

The vast base left is consumer, and the majority of that is prepaid.

> Get ready for another delay.........


Doubtful



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Old 04-06-2008, 01:26 PM
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"Alan Parkington" <alanparkington@team.telstra.net> wrote in message
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> From
> http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/defa...rticleID=28978
>
> The majority of the CDMA customer base has migrated to the Next G network,
> and the company added that it is unlikely to introduce any new customer
> migration offers prior to the scheduled CDMA network closure on 28 April
> 2008.


Which may need to be pushed back again......

The info I have is that, as of a week ago, there are still in the vicinity
of 280,000 services still on CDMA. That's services that are actively
registering with a base station, not just idle accounts.
While some are undoubtedly handsets, a large number are believed to be
remote telemetry units in use by various utilities, railways, mines and
other companies, and won't be quite as easy to upgrade as a regular voice
handset.

Get ready for another delay.........

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Old 04-06-2008, 03:15 PM
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"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
> news:G8WdnUHOm4WBKGXanZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@westnet.com. au...
>>
>> "Alan Parkington" <alanparkington@team.telstra.net> wrote in message
>> news:9kmlj.5944$421.3864@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> From
>>> http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/defa...rticleID=28978
>>>
>>> The majority of the CDMA customer base has migrated to the Next G
>>> network, and the company added that it is unlikely to introduce any new
>>> customer migration offers prior to the scheduled CDMA network closure on
>>> 28 April 2008.

>>
>> Which may need to be pushed back again......
>>
>> The info I have is that, as of a week ago, there are still in the
>> vicinity of 280,000 services still on CDMA. That's services that are
>> actively

>
> That's a reasonably close estimate.
>
>> registering with a base station, not just idle accounts.

>
> Billing system doesnt know whether a service is "registering with a base".


The info I got wasn't from the billing system

> Prepaids are often allowed to be "dormant" - that is, Telstra does not
> always enforce disconnection after the "recharge only" period.
> In other words, they dont always disconnect you as early as they should.
>
> However, prepaids are up to date in terms of dormancy.
>
> So the entire customer base (retail) is non-dormant (billing), but that
> doesnt mean they've been switched on lately.


The ones I'm talking about *have* registered with a base. Nothing to do with
what's billing.

> Many people have their CDMA on a $10 plan (or $4.95) sitting in the
> glovebox or whatever
>
>> While some are undoubtedly handsets, a large number are believed to be
>> remote telemetry units in use by various utilities, railways, mines and
>> other companies, and won't be quite as easy to upgrade as a regular voice
>> handset.

>
> Nope. Businesses went early and almost all of those are migrated.


Bzzzt. Wrong.

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Old 04-06-2008, 09:21 PM
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>>> The info I have is that, as of a week ago, there are still in the
>>> vicinity of 280,000 services still on CDMA. That's services that are
>>> actively

>>
>> That's a reasonably close estimate.
>>
>>> registering with a base station, not just idle accounts.

>>
>> Billing system doesnt know whether a service is "registering with a
>> base".

>
> The info I got wasn't from the billing system


Then the info youve got is a bit bodge - I'd suggest that only 60-70% of
active services would be registering on the HLR.

>>> While some are undoubtedly handsets, a large number are believed to be
>>> remote telemetry units in use by various utilities, railways, mines and
>>> other companies, and won't be quite as easy to upgrade as a regular
>>> voice handset.

>>
>> Nope. Businesses went early and almost all of those are migrated.

>
> Bzzzt. Wrong.


Seen it happen. Know the numbers - not many business services left.



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Old 04-06-2008, 11:15 PM
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"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>> The info I have is that, as of a week ago, there are still in the
>>>> vicinity of 280,000 services still on CDMA. That's services that are
>>>> actively
>>>
>>> That's a reasonably close estimate.
>>>
>>>> registering with a base station, not just idle accounts.
>>>
>>> Billing system doesnt know whether a service is "registering with a
>>> base".

>>
>> The info I got wasn't from the billing system

>
> Then the info youve got is a bit bodge - I'd suggest that only 60-70% of
> active services would be registering on the HLR.
>
>>>> While some are undoubtedly handsets, a large number are believed to be
>>>> remote telemetry units in use by various utilities, railways, mines and
>>>> other companies, and won't be quite as easy to upgrade as a regular
>>>> voice handset.
>>>
>>> Nope. Businesses went early and almost all of those are migrated.

>>
>> Bzzzt. Wrong.

>
> Seen it happen. Know the numbers - not many business services left.
>


Hundreds of telemtry units I am aware of from one business alone that are
still on CDMA, whilst the CounryWide buffoons figure out a solution.



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Old 04-07-2008, 12:16 PM
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thegoons wrote:

> Hundreds of telemtry units I am aware of from one business alone that are
> still on CDMA, whilst the CounryWide buffoons figure out a solution.


They are leaving it a bit bloody late. If CDMA did switch off in Feb,
they would really be up the creek.

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Old 04-07-2008, 02:51 PM
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"Brendon" <no@way.man> wrote in message news:ftd3bb$kt9$1@aioe.org...
> thegoons wrote:
>
>> Hundreds of telemtry units I am aware of from one business alone that are
>> still on CDMA, whilst the CounryWide buffoons figure out a solution.

>
> They are leaving it a bit bloody late.


Probably not by choice though. If the telemetry unit they use doesn't
support UMTS at 850Mhz they are stuck with whatever they've got, until
Telstra kills the network.

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Old 04-10-2008, 09:15 PM
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>> Seen it happen. Know the numbers - not many business services left.
>>

>
> Hundreds of telemtry units I am aware of from one business alone that are
> still on CDMA, whilst the CounryWide buffoons figure out a solution.


Why would TCW be thinking up a solution for a customers problem?

Buy a NextG or GSM telemetry unit like every other customer. No coverage?
Raise a complaint.

Simple.



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Old 04-10-2008, 09:15 PM
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"Brendon" <no@way.man> wrote in message news:ftd3bb$kt9$1@aioe.org...
> thegoons wrote:
>
>> Hundreds of telemtry units I am aware of from one business alone that are
>> still on CDMA, whilst the CounryWide buffoons figure out a solution.

>
> They are leaving it a bit bloody late. If CDMA did switch off in Feb, they
> would really be up the creek.


Plenty of stupid customers out there



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