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Old 09-30-2007, 12:12 AM
Alan Parkington
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Default Telstra targets its shareholders

From
http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...33-462,00.html

TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express anger
at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to fill
letterboxes.

As Prime Minister John Howard prepares to call an election for late
November, the provocative letter to shareholders will enrage government
ministers who are furious at the perceived political interference, Fairfax
newspapers say.

Telstra and the government have been at odds since its American chief
executive, Sol Trujillo, arrived at the telco giant in 2005.

Telstra believes it is over-regulated. In its letter, the board says the
government has decided to put a licence condition on Telstra, requiring it
to maintain its CDMA network.

Telstra says its new 3G national mobile broadband network will be
operational in January and should be then be allowed to shut the CDMA
network.

"The imposition of this new licence condition is another example of the
government showing disregard for sound, pro-consumer and pro-investment
public policy," the letter says.

"That's why Telstra will explore legal options to reduce these new
government-imposed burdens on consumers and Telstra shareholders."



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Old 09-30-2007, 05:19 AM
James Bell
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Alan Parkington wrote:
> From
> http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...33-462,00.html
>
> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express anger
> at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to fill
> letterboxes.


I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for
a properly managed economy.

Given that 'Telstra Active Supporters' has been an absolute abysmal
fucking failure, it just goes to show, nobody gives a flying fuck. This
ain't Amerikca.

Sol and his other brethren can piss, shit, cry and fart as much as they
want. Nobody cares.

Another failure and subsequent waste of shareholders money.

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Old 09-30-2007, 05:52 AM
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"James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
news:46FF31C6.8030104@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au.. .
> Alan Parkington wrote:
>> From
>> http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...33-462,00.html
>>
>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to fill
>> letterboxes.

>
> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for a
> properly managed economy.
>


When you say 'properly managed economy' are you referring to the $3 billion
the government has flushed down the drain in Iraq, the hundreds of millions
wasted on APEC, the 400-odd million blown on Xmas island, or the $6 billion
they have decided to piss up against the wall buying (temporary) fighter
aircraft that we will probably require because they agreed to waste another
$15 billion (minimum) on an aircraft that is uncosted, unproven and will
probably arrive late?

--
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:32 AM
James Bell
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Kwyjibo wrote:
> "James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
> news:46FF31C6.8030104@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au.. .
>> Alan Parkington wrote:
>>> From
>>> http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...33-462,00.html
>>>
>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to fill
>>> letterboxes.

>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for a
>> properly managed economy.
>>

>
> When you say 'properly managed economy' are you referring to the $3 billion
> the government has flushed down the drain in Iraq, the hundreds of millions
> wasted on APEC, the 400-odd million blown on Xmas island, or the $6 billion
> they have decided to piss up against the wall buying (temporary) fighter
> aircraft that we will probably require because they agreed to waste another
> $15 billion (minimum) on an aircraft that is uncosted, unproven and will
> probably arrive late?


You can afford to spend money when you properly manage the economy so
that you don't have to incur DEBT in order fund such commitments. Unlike
lab0r and fuckwits like wayne swan who couldn't manage themselves out of
a wet paper bag, let along a $1 trill economy.

Lefty fuckwit whining about money going to places you don't like !=
Badly managed economy.

Deal with it.

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Old 09-30-2007, 09:47 AM
Rod Speed
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Alan Parkington <parkingtona@team.telstra.com> wrote

> From
> http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...33-462,00.html


> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express anger at the Federal Government, with a new
> direct-mail campaign to fill letterboxes.


Just another terminal footshot by the stupid mex and its arselickers.

> As Prime Minister John Howard prepares to call an election for late November, the provocative letter to shareholders
> will enrage government ministers who are furious at the perceived political interference, Fairfax newspapers say.


It'll piss most of the shareholders off about telstra too.

> Telstra and the government have been at odds since its American chief executive, Sol Trujillo, arrived at the telco
> giant in 2005.


There's been problems between telstra and the govt LONG before that, fuckwit.

> Telstra believes it is over-regulated.


Like it or lump it, fuckwits.

> In its letter, the board says the government has decided to put a licence condition on Telstra, requiring it to
> maintain its CDMA network.


And fuck all of telstra's customers will disagree with that, fuckwit.

> Telstra says its new 3G national mobile broadband network will be operational in January and should be then be allowed
> to shut the CDMA network.


If you fools can actually deliver what you have claimed, you dont have anything to worry about, fuckwits.

> "The imposition of this new licence condition is another example of the government showing disregard for sound,
> pro-consumer and pro-investment public policy," the letter says.


Obvious mindless silly stuff. You fools have already claimed that the cdma
system wont be turned off until the NextG network has as good or better
coverage, so you have nothing to worry about with the license condition, fuckwits.

> "That's why Telstra will explore legal options to reduce these new
> government-imposed burdens on consumers and Telstra shareholders."


And the courts will tell you clowns to go and fuck yourselves, you watch.



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Old 09-30-2007, 10:02 AM
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"James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
news:46ff6b8f$0$3579$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> "James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:46FF31C6.8030104@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au.. .
>>> Alan Parkington wrote:
>>>> From
>>>> http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...33-462,00.html
>>>>
>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to
>>>> fill letterboxes.
>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for
>>> a properly managed economy.
>>>

>>
>> When you say 'properly managed economy' are you referring to the $3
>> billion the government has flushed down the drain in Iraq, the hundreds
>> of millions wasted on APEC, the 400-odd million blown on Xmas island, or
>> the $6 billion they have decided to piss up against the wall buying
>> (temporary) fighter aircraft that we will probably require because they
>> agreed to waste another $15 billion (minimum) on an aircraft that is
>> uncosted, unproven and will probably arrive late?

>
> You can afford to spend money when you properly manage the economy so that
> you don't have to incur DEBT in order fund such commitments. Unlike lab0r
> and fuckwits like wayne swan who couldn't manage themselves out of a wet
> paper bag, let along a $1 trill economy.
>
> Lefty fuckwit whining about money going to places you don't like != Badly
> managed economy.


Thanks China for the mining boom.



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Old 09-30-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Telstra targets its shareholders

>>>
>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to fill
>>> letterboxes.

>>
>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for
>> a properly managed economy.
>>


Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that Howard is
using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its obligations to the
bush, and they expect this to cost the Government votes?

Howard must be pissing himself laughing.



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Old 09-30-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: Telstra targets its shareholders

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:44:23 +1000, "Peter Webb"
<webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:

>>>>
>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to fill
>>>> letterboxes.
>>>
>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for
>>> a properly managed economy.
>>>

>
>Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that Howard is
>using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its obligations to the
>bush, and they expect this to cost the Government votes?
>
>Howard must be pissing himself laughing.
>

I live 3 miles from an exchange and cant get broadband.
I havent received the letter yet but will certainly give the dulf's a
piece of my mind. Telstra are wankers.

if you want a laugh ring telstra support and ask for details of their
dialup sms portal. none of them have a clue that it even still exists.
telstra are well and truely losing the plot.
Stealth Pilot

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Old 09-30-2007, 12:06 PM
Kwyjibo
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"James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
news:46ff6b8f$0$3579$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> "James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:46FF31C6.8030104@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au.. .
>>> Alan Parkington wrote:
>>>> From
>>>> http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...33-462,00.html
>>>>
>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to
>>>> fill letterboxes.
>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for
>>> a properly managed economy.
>>>

>>
>> When you say 'properly managed economy' are you referring to the $3
>> billion the government has flushed down the drain in Iraq, the hundreds
>> of millions wasted on APEC, the 400-odd million blown on Xmas island, or
>> the $6 billion they have decided to piss up against the wall buying
>> (temporary) fighter aircraft that we will probably require because they
>> agreed to waste another $15 billion (minimum) on an aircraft that is
>> uncosted, unproven and will probably arrive late?

>
> You can afford to spend money when you properly manage the economy so that
> you don't have to incur DEBT in order fund such commitments.


Correct, but then I never claimed otherwise. You might want to brush up on
English comprehension. I never said that spending money was bad.
What I object to is that the government is *wasting* money, in much the same
way that Telstra is wasting money in a pathetic attempt to fight the
regulator and government. This is not the same as *spending* money, fuckwit.

> Unlike lab0r and fuckwits like wayne swan who couldn't manage themselves
> out of a wet paper bag, let along a $1 trill economy.


Funny how you bring labor into this. I made no mention of either labor or
liberal. Could it be that you *know* who is wasting money and are becoming
overly defensive?

> Lefty fuckwit


As I said, I made no mention of either the labor or liberal parties, so I'd
love to see your reasoning for thinking you have any idea as to my political
leanings.

> whining about money going to places you don't like != Badly managed
> economy.


And rightard/leftard fuckwits making any posts at all != anything even
slightly resembling logic.

--
Kwyj.



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Old 09-30-2007, 08:35 PM
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Stealth Pilot <notransponder@aeroplanes.com.au> wrote
> Peter Webb <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote


>>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to
>>>>> express anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail
>>>>> campaign to fill letterboxes.


>>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck,
>>>> and care more for a properly managed economy.


>> Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that Howard
>> is using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its obligations
>> to the bush, and they expect this to cost the Government votes?


>> Howard must be pissing himself laughing.


> I live 3 miles from an exchange and cant get broadband.


There will always be some who can have a phone service and not broadband.

> I havent received the letter yet but will certainly give the dulf's a piece of my mind.


Bet thats absolutely guaranteed to make them curl up and die.

> Telstra are wankers.


> if you want a laugh ring telstra support and ask for details of their
> dialup sms portal. none of them have a clue that it even still exists.


Hardly surprising with any operation of that size.

> telstra are well and truely losing the plot.


And their profit leaves all the rest combined for dead anyway.



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Old 09-30-2007, 10:29 PM
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"Stealth Pilot" <notransponder@aeroplanes.com.au> wrote in message
news:1h3vf3p9fg2kdgek1mfvs5jfl280kpuri2@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:44:23 +1000, "Peter Webb"
> <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to
>>>>> fill
>>>>> letterboxes.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more
>>>> for
>>>> a properly managed economy.
>>>>

>>
>>Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that Howard is
>>using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its obligations to the
>>bush, and they expect this to cost the Government votes?
>>
>>Howard must be pissing himself laughing.
>>

> I live 3 miles from an exchange and cant get broadband.
> I havent received the letter yet but will certainly give the dulf's a
> piece of my mind. Telstra are wankers.
>
> if you want a laugh ring telstra support and ask for details of their
> dialup sms portal. none of them have a clue that it even still exists.
> telstra are well and truely losing the plot.
> Stealth Pilot


I live 3Km from an exchange, and only 15 Km from Brisbane CBD and can't get
ADSL or even Caller ID.
(Wish Telstra would spend some of the 1/2 Mil $ they are going to piss down
Aus Post propaganda mail ,on upgrading some exchanges)



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Old 10-01-2007, 12:02 AM
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"Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Stealth Pilot" <notransponder@aeroplanes.com.au> wrote in message
> news:1h3vf3p9fg2kdgek1mfvs5jfl280kpuri2@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:44:23 +1000, "Peter Webb"
>> <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>>>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to
>>>>>> fill
>>>>>> letterboxes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more
>>>>> for
>>>>> a properly managed economy.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that Howard is
>>>using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its obligations to the
>>>bush, and they expect this to cost the Government votes?
>>>
>>>Howard must be pissing himself laughing.
>>>

>> I live 3 miles from an exchange and cant get broadband.
>> I havent received the letter yet but will certainly give the dulf's a
>> piece of my mind. Telstra are wankers.
>>
>> if you want a laugh ring telstra support and ask for details of their
>> dialup sms portal. none of them have a clue that it even still exists.
>> telstra are well and truely losing the plot.
>> Stealth Pilot

>
> I live 3Km from an exchange, and only 15 Km from Brisbane CBD and can't
> get ADSL or even Caller ID.
> (Wish Telstra would spend some of the 1/2 Mil $ they are going to piss
> down Aus Post propaganda mail ,on upgrading some exchanges)


But surely this cannot be.
Didn't John put one of his mates on a junta to report that Telstra had
fulfilled their rural obligations? And it was so reported from memory.
Let us not (Rod) confuse profit with service.
Back in the 90's the Telstra speed of answer of customer calls was targeted
at 90%+ in 15 seconds - to get to someone who could handle your enquiry.
Make it today nearer 15 weeks before you get to that same person. If at
all.

Still, big business and the media that was subsidising the residential and
rural/remote clicked its fingers - and the gullible public cheered and
purchased shares.
Examples used were places like London - what they forgot to mention was the
economies of scale associated with customer density - and that the UK does
not have an outback to service (get the Rangie to 100 Kmh - if possible -
and you drive off the edge of the Isles before you know it).
I was up at Deddick recently working on an aviation paper in peace and the
phone line was a noise mix between frying eggs and a wind sigmet.
At least now the public has some understanding of "user pays" and where it
leads.
Brian



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Old 10-01-2007, 04:33 AM
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SR20GOER <ralcoremove@aopa.com.au> wrote:
> "Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YqVLi.3854$H22.549@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Stealth Pilot" <notransponder@aeroplanes.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:1h3vf3p9fg2kdgek1mfvs5jfl280kpuri2@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:44:23 +1000, "Peter Webb"
>>> <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to
>>>>>>> express anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail
>>>>>>> campaign to fill
>>>>>>> letterboxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care
>>>>>> more for
>>>>>> a properly managed economy.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that
>>>> Howard is using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its
>>>> obligations to the bush, and they expect this to cost the
>>>> Government votes? Howard must be pissing himself laughing.
>>>>
>>> I live 3 miles from an exchange and cant get broadband.
>>> I havent received the letter yet but will certainly give the dulf's
>>> a piece of my mind. Telstra are wankers.
>>>
>>> if you want a laugh ring telstra support and ask for details of
>>> their dialup sms portal. none of them have a clue that it even
>>> still exists. telstra are well and truely losing the plot.
>>> Stealth Pilot

>>
>> I live 3Km from an exchange, and only 15 Km from Brisbane CBD and
>> can't get ADSL or even Caller ID.
>> (Wish Telstra would spend some of the 1/2 Mil $ they are going to
>> piss down Aus Post propaganda mail ,on upgrading some exchanges)


> Let us not (Rod) confuse profit with service.


Didnt confuse anything. Their profit clearly indicates that they aint losing the plot even if
a few stupid yanks piss a tiny part of that profit against the wall on stoushes with the govt.



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Old 10-01-2007, 05:11 AM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> SR20GOER <ralcoremove@aopa.com.au> wrote:
>> "Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message

snipped
>
>> Let us not (Rod) confuse profit with service.

>
> Didnt confuse anything. Their profit clearly indicates that they aint
> losing the plot even if
> a few stupid yanks piss a tiny part of that profit against the wall on
> stoushes with the govt.
>

Rod
Sadly you are. Service is what the customer wants, the shareholders want
profit.
Probably why when I last landed at Cobar the blue phone was out of order and
there was no mobile service.
Lucky the refueller turned up to do some work on his truck and saved us the
long walk to town.

It's when profit gets confused with service that organisations go down the
gurgler.
Perhaps Telstra could take over running Coles - seems some core synergy in
the management teams
Brian



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Old 10-01-2007, 12:20 PM
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"Kwyjibo" <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote in message
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>
> "James Bell" <jamesbell@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au> wrote in message
> news:46FF31C6.8030104@tellthetruthtelstra.com.au.. .
>> Alan Parkington wrote:
>>> From
>>> http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...33-462,00.html
>>>
>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to fill
>>> letterboxes.

>>
>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for
>> a properly managed economy.
>>

>
> When you say 'properly managed economy' are you referring to the $3
> billion the government has flushed down the drain in Iraq, the hundreds of
> millions wasted on APEC, the 400-odd million blown on Xmas island, or the
> $6 billion they have decided to piss up against the wall buying
> (temporary) fighter aircraft that we will probably require because they
> agreed to waste another $15 billion (minimum) on an aircraft that is
> uncosted, unproven and will probably arrive late?


Yeah, thats the one.



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Old 10-01-2007, 08:22 PM
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SR20GOER <ralcoremove@aopa.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> SR20GOER <ralcoremove@aopa.com.au> wrote


>>> Let us not (Rod) confuse profit with service.


>> Didnt confuse anything. Their profit clearly indicates that they aint losing the plot even if a few stupid yanks piss
>> a tiny part of that profit against the wall on stoushes with the govt.


> Rod
> Sadly you are.


Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> Service is what the customer wants, the shareholders want profit.


Irrelevant to what was actually being discussed, whether telstra has lost the plot.

While ever they provide services to more customers
than all the rest combined, they clearly aint lost the plot.

> Probably why when I last landed at Cobar the blue phone was out of order and there was no mobile service.


Nope, because its not trivial to fix faults in that sort of location.

> Lucky the refueller turned up to do some work on his truck and saved us the long walk to town.


Its unlikely that there would be no traffic on that road at all.

> It's when profit gets confused with service that organisations go down the gurgler.


Telstra wont be going down any gurgler, you watch.

<reams of your silly shit flushed where it belongs>



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Old 10-02-2007, 01:47 AM
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Stealth Pilot wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:44:23 +1000, "Peter Webb"
> <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to fill
>>>>> letterboxes.
>>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more for
>>>> a properly managed economy.
>>>>

>> Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that Howard is
>> using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its obligations to the
>> bush, and they expect this to cost the Government votes?
>>
>> Howard must be pissing himself laughing.
>>

> I live 3 miles from an exchange and cant get broadband.
> I havent received the letter yet but will certainly give the dulf's a
> piece of my mind. Telstra are wankers.


Just as Howard's 'privatization' policy created them, neither fish nor
fowl.

> if you want a laugh ring telstra support and ask for details of their
> dialup sms portal. none of them have a clue that it even still exists.
> telstra are well and truely losing the plot.
> Stealth Pilot


No need to tell shareholders that, they can see it reflected in the fall
of share prices since privatization.

Howard and Coonan have rooted the Telco industry.

Now their monster has turned and bit the hand that made it.

---------

Prime Minister Rip Van Winkle;

"Well, I don't, I, I, I, I don't know. I, I mean, I, I "

- John Howard asked about his plans.

Sure John we will all just go get a coffee while
you find your mind and then make it up! B^D


http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/climate_coma.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGqTayhu5QM

"After a successful few years as a junior minister in
Malcolm Fraser's government, Howard was promoted to
treasury, where his five years in the job can only
be judged as an unmitigated failure.
Take a look at the statistics.

When Howard left the treasury in March 1983, the
budget deficit was forecast at $9.6 billion, inflation
was 11 per cent, unemployment was 10.2 per cent,
the economy was in recession with negative
0.4 per cent growth, and housing interest rates
were 13 per cent.

And, despite the 1982-83 recession being the worst
since the Great Depression, Howard still managed to
increase the federal tax take from 25.1 per cent of
GDP in 1977 to 27.5 per cent of GDP by 1982-83.

Howard then spent 13 years in opposition, during
which - when he wasn't leader himself - he spent
a lot of time conspiring against the three leaders
he served under: Andrew Peacock, John Hewson and
Alexander Downer."

---------

"THE polls show John Howard is likely to be beaten
by Labor, now under its sharpest leader in a decade.
Facing defeat, the Prime Minister yesterday changed
not only his team but its tone." -Andrew Bolt 24/1/2007

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Old 10-02-2007, 01:59 AM
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Rod Speed wrote:
> Stealth Pilot <notransponder@aeroplanes.com.au> wrote
>> Peter Webb <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote

>
>>>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to
>>>>>> express anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail
>>>>>> campaign to fill letterboxes.

>
>>>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck,
>>>>> and care more for a properly managed economy.

>
>>> Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that Howard
>>> is using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its obligations
>>> to the bush, and they expect this to cost the Government votes?

>
>>> Howard must be pissing himself


He usually does after a few scotches

> laughing.
>


We all are, he can't manage a modern telecommunications policy any
better than he can bowl!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGqTayhu5QM

>> I live 3 miles from an exchange and cant get broadband.


Welcome to the inter-connected world, the connections
stop at the Australian border!

> There will always be some who can have a phone service and not broadband.



Naturally, the phone network was installed nationally by a government
owned Telco, the digital network has been partially installed, partially
duplicated, by a highly efficient privatized model!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAH AHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA!

And the privatized Telco, a financial shambles who couldn't install
a wireless router in an outside dunny, is being eaten alive by
a foreign competitor, owned by a more visionary GOVERNMENT!

No wonder Coonan has developed Howard;'s lower lip tremble,
as if she will break down completely if anyone asks her another
question for which she has no answer! B^p

>
>> Telstra are wankers.


Naturally, look at the government that created the camel Telstra has
become.. Like mother like son! B^D

>> if you want a laugh ring telstra support and ask for details of their
>> dialup sms portal. none of them have a clue that it even still exists.

>
> Hardly surprising with any operation of that size.
>


Have they stopped paying John Laws and appointed you chief apologist?

Talk about going downmarket! B^D

>> telstra are well and truely losing the plot.


Howard and Coonan wrote it, so tossing it was probably deliberate! ;-)


---------

Prime Minister Rip Van Winkle;

"Well, I don't, I, I, I, I don't know. I, I mean, I, I "

- John Howard asked about his plans.

Sure John we will all just go get a coffee while
you find your mind and then make it up! B^D


http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/climate_coma.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGqTayhu5QM

"After a successful few years as a junior minister in
Malcolm Fraser's government, Howard was promoted to
treasury, where his five years in the job can only
be judged as an unmitigated failure.
Take a look at the statistics.

When Howard left the treasury in March 1983, the
budget deficit was forecast at $9.6 billion, inflation
was 11 per cent, unemployment was 10.2 per cent,
the economy was in recession with negative
0.4 per cent growth, and housing interest rates
were 13 per cent.

And, despite the 1982-83 recession being the worst
since the Great Depression, Howard still managed to
increase the federal tax take from 25.1 per cent of
GDP in 1977 to 27.5 per cent of GDP by 1982-83.

Howard then spent 13 years in opposition, during
which - when he wasn't leader himself - he spent
a lot of time conspiring against the three leaders
he served under: Andrew Peacock, John Hewson and
Alexander Downer."

---------

"THE polls show John Howard is likely to be beaten
by Labor, now under its sharpest leader in a decade.
Facing defeat, the Prime Minister yesterday changed
not only his team but its tone." -Andrew Bolt 24/1/2007

http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/team_howard.htm

http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/h...s_costello.htm

http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/trust_me.htm

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Old 10-02-2007, 05:39 AM
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SR20GOER wrote:
> "Sunny" <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:YqVLi.3854$H22.549@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "Stealth Pilot" <notransponder@aeroplanes.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:1h3vf3p9fg2kdgek1mfvs5jfl280kpuri2@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:44:23 +1000, "Peter Webb"
>>> <webbfamily@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> TELSTRA will urge its 1.6 million mum-and-dad shareholders to express
>>>>>>> anger at the Federal Government, with a new direct-mail campaign to
>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>> letterboxes.
>>>>>> I'm sure the shareholders couldn't give a flying fuck, and care more
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> a properly managed economy.
>>>>>>
>>>> Telstra sends a letter out to 1.6 million families saying that Howard is
>>>> using its regulatory powers to make Telstra keep its obligations to the
>>>> bush, and they expect this to cost the Government votes?
>>>>
>>>> Howard must be pissing himself laughing.
>>>>
>>> I live 3 miles from an exchange and cant get broadband.
>>> I havent received the letter yet but will certainly give the dulf's a
>>> piece of my mind. Telstra are wankers.
>>>
>>> if you want a laugh ring telstra support and ask for details of their
>>> dialup sms portal. none of them have a clue that it even still exists.
>>> telstra are well and truely losing the plot.
>>> Stealth Pilot

>> I live 3Km from an exchange, and only 15 Km from Brisbane CBD and can't
>> get ADSL or even Caller ID.
>> (Wish Telstra would spend some of the 1/2 Mil $ they are going to piss
>> down Aus Post propaganda mail ,on upgrading some exchanges)

>
> But surely this cannot be.
> Didn't John put one of his mates on a junta to report that Telstra had
> fulfilled their rural obligations? And it was so reported from memory.
> Let us not (Rod) confuse profit with service.
> Back in the 90's the Telstra speed of answer of customer calls was targeted
> at 90%+ in 15 seconds - to get to someone who could handle your enquiry.
> Make it today nearer 15 weeks before you get to that same person. If at
> all.
>
> Still, big business and the media that was subsidising the residential and
> rural/remote clicked its fingers - and the gullible public cheered and
> purchased shares.
> Examples used were places like London - what they forgot to mention was the
> economies of scale associated with customer density - and that the UK does
> not have an outback to service (get the Rangie to 100 Kmh - if possible -
> and you drive off the edge of the Isles before you know it).
> I was up at Deddick recently working on an aviation paper in peace and the
> phone line was a noise mix between frying eggs and a wind sigmet.
> At least now the public has some understanding of "user pays" and where it
> leads.
> Brian
>
>



At last a decent signal to noise ratio!

Either I have left Australia and re-entered the first world
or Rod Speed is asleep in a Faraday cage.!



---------

Prime Minister Rip Van Winkle;

"Well, I don't, I, I, I, I don't know. I, I mean, I, I "

- John Howard asked about his plans.

Sure John we will all just go get a coffee while
you find your mind and then make it up! B^D


http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/climate_coma.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGqTayhu5QM

"After a successful few years as a junior minister in
Malcolm Fraser's government, Howard was promoted to
treasury, where his five years in the job can only
be judged as an unmitigated failure.
Take a look at the statistics.

When Howard left the treasury in March 1983, the
budget deficit was forecast at $9.6 billion, inflation
was 11 per cent, unemployment was 10.2 per cent,
the economy was in recession with negative
0.4 per cent growth, and housing interest rates
were 13 per cent.

And, despite the 1982-83 recession being the worst
since the Great Depression, Howard still managed to
increase the federal tax take from 25.1 per cent of
GDP in 1977 to 27.5 per cent of GDP by 1982-83.

Howard then spent 13 years in opposition, during
which - when he wasn't leader himself - he spent
a lot of time conspiring against the three leaders
he served under: Andrew Peacock, John Hewson and
Alexander Downer."

---------

"THE polls show John Howard is likely to be beaten
by Labor, now under its sharpest leader in a decade.
Facing defeat, the Prime Minister yesterday changed
not only his team but its tone." -Andrew Bolt 24/1/2007

http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/team_howard.htm

http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/h...s_costello.htm

http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/trust_me.htm

http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/team_lieberal.htm

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Old 10-02-2007, 09:20 AM
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:59:05 +1000, fasgnadh wrote:

> And the privatized Telco, a financial shambles who couldn't install a
> wireless router in an outside dunny,

[......]

That's something you're pretty good at, yourself, ey?

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