Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since telstra got the australian infrastucture for free,
>>>
>>>>>>>> Lie.
>>>
>>>>>>> Fact.
>>>
>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>>>>>> Telstra, through their shareholders, paid the government
>>>>>>>> billions of dollars for it.
>>>
>>>>>>> Pity the shareholders aint telstra, stupid.
>>>
>>>>>> Try reading what I wrote, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>>> Your mindless pig ignorant shit has always been,
>>>>> and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.
>>>
>>>> So you reckon those billions of dollars were just a gift
>>>
>>> They werent payment for the australian phone infrastructure, fuckwit.
>
>> They were payment for the phone company which had already paid for and
>> owned the infrastructure.
>
> Telstra the privatised company didnt own the infrastructure, the govt
> owned it.
Lie. Telstra owned it, and Telstra Corp (the legal entity which owned the
network) existed a long time before privatisation.
>
>> No one got anything for free, stupid.
>
> Pig ignorant lie. Telstra didnt pay the govt a cent for the landline
> infrastructure.
Because the government didn't own it, stupid. Telstra did.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
Some gutless drug running fuckwit desperately cowering behind
Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.com> wrote just the puerile pig ignorant
shit you'd expect from a desperately cowering drug running fuckwit
thats never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
Some gutless drug running fuckwit desperately cowering behind
Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.com> wrote just the puerile pig ignorant
shit you'd expect from a desperately cowering drug running fuckwit
thats never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Some gutless drug running fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.com> wrote just the puerile pig ignorant
> shit you'd expect from a desperately cowering drug running fuckwit
> thats never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Some gutless drug running fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.com> wrote just the puerile pig ignorant
> shit you'd expect from a desperately cowering drug running fuckwit
> thats never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Giving up already? Must be all those drugs you're taking.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
Some gutless drug running fuckwit desperately cowering behind
Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.com> wrote just the puerile pig ignorant
shit you'd expect from a desperately cowering drug running fuckwit
thats never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
Some gutless drug running fuckwit desperately cowering behind
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shit you'd expect from a desperately cowering drug running fuckwit
thats never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:26:54 +0900, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:55:36 +1000, GB wrote:
>
>>> Telstra Countrywide manager Jeff Booth says the company is questioning
>>> whether its shareholders should pay for everyone to have a telephone.
>>
>> Damn right they should. They got a country-wide telephone network
>> completely free-of-charge, now they get to live up to their end of the
>> bargain.
>
>Free of charge? You seem to be forgetting the tens of billions of dollars
>the Commonwealth raised by selling Telstra shares.
>
>
>>> "There is now the question before the Universal Service Obligation of
>>> providing the first telephone, there's now a question about where that
>>> half billion dollar plus burden a year actually sits" he said.
>>
>> Square in the lap of the shareholders who are busily enjoying the
>> free country-wide telephone network that they got completely free-
>> of-charge, that's where it sits.
>
>What a moron. The Government gave away all the Telstra shares did it?
>
>In actual fact, the Commonwealth SOLD its "country-wide telephone network"
>for tens of billions of dollars.
>
>
Power Companies have always been entitled to charge the full cost of
providing power to people in the bush.
Why should phone companies be any differant.'
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
Mauried <mauried@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:26:54 +0900, Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:55:36 +1000, GB wrote:
>>
>>>> Telstra Countrywide manager Jeff Booth says the company is
>>>> questioning whether its shareholders should pay for everyone to
>>>> have a telephone.
>>>
>>> Damn right they should. They got a country-wide telephone network
>>> completely free-of-charge, now they get to live up to their end of
>>> the bargain.
>>
>> Free of charge? You seem to be forgetting the tens of billions of
>> dollars the Commonwealth raised by selling Telstra shares.
>>
>>
>>>> "There is now the question before the Universal Service Obligation
>>>> of providing the first telephone, there's now a question about
>>>> where that half billion dollar plus burden a year actually sits"
>>>> he said.
>>>
>>> Square in the lap of the shareholders who are busily enjoying the
>>> free country-wide telephone network that they got completely free-
>>> of-charge, that's where it sits.
>>
>> What a moron. The Government gave away all the Telstra shares did
>> it?
>>
>> In actual fact, the Commonwealth SOLD its "country-wide telephone
>> network" for tens of billions of dollars.
> Power Companies have always been entitled to charge
> the full cost of providing power to people in the bush.
Pig ignorant lie.
> Why should phone companies be any differant.'
Because the legislators choose to do things differently with them.
>Power Companies have always been entitled to charge the full cost of
>providing power to people in the bush.
>Why should phone companies be any differant.'
But you have an option. If it is more expensive to get grid power connected you can go solar - cost
was about the same for installation, then nearly free power, just replace a few batteries each year.
No such alternative with phones. If mobile data was affordable, and nextG coverage was available,
you would not need to run copper.
>> Power Companies have always been entitled to charge the full cost of providing
>> power to people in the bush. Why should phone companies be any differant.
> But you have an option.
You do with a phone system too.
> If it is more expensive to get grid power connected you can go solar
> - cost was about the same for installation, then nearly free power,
> just replace a few batteries each year. No such alternative with phones.
Wrong, you are welcome to have a satellite service instead if you want one.
> If mobile data was affordable,
Thats not a phone service.
> and nextG coverage was available, you would not need to run copper.
You dont now, you can have a satellite system if you want one.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
"GB" <gb0807@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote in message
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> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:fu7k20$4m6$1@news.datemas.de:
>> They shouldn't, but that's not my point. My point is that that private
>> companies shouldn't be forced to provide unprofitable services.
>
> Consequences of receiving a country-wide telephone network for
> free do not include the right to cherry-pick which bits of that
> telephone network you want to operate and which bits you don't.
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>> GB wrote
>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> They shouldn't, but that's not my point. My point is that that private
>>>> companies shouldn't be forced to provide unprofitable services.
>
>>> Consequences of receiving a country-wide telephone network
>>> for free do not include the right to cherry-pick which bits of that
>>> telephone network you want to operate and which bits you don't.
>
>> No-one received a telephone network for free.
>
> Wrong, telstra did with the landline system.
>
>> The Government originally owned the network through PMG/Telecom/Telstra.
>
> And Telstra didnt pay the govt a cent for that.
Yes they did. They paid back all monies given to them back to 1901, with a
commercial rate of interest
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>> GB wrote
>>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> They shouldn't, but that's not my point. My point is that that private companies shouldn't be forced to provide
>>>>> unprofitable services.
>>>> Consequences of receiving a country-wide telephone network
>>>> for free do not include the right to cherry-pick which bits of that
>>>> telephone network you want to operate and which bits you don't.
>>> No-one received a telephone network for free.
>> Wrong, telstra did with the landline system.
>>> The Government originally owned the network through PMG/Telecom/Telstra.
>> And Telstra didnt pay the govt a cent for that.
> Yes they did.
No they didnt.
> They paid back all monies given to them back to 1901, with a commercial rate of interest
Re: Telstra wants fixed phone line obligation reviewed
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> GB <gb0807@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote
>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>> They shouldn't, but that's not my point. My point is that that private companies shouldn't be forced to provide
>>> unprofitable services.
>> Consequences of receiving a country-wide telephone network for free do not include the right to cherry-pick which
>> bits of that
>> telephone network you want to operate and which bits you don't.
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