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Old 11-09-2009, 10:15 AM
Aussie Bob
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Default Telstra's copper surprise for Conroy

From
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/busi...1029-hmif.html

Telstra could have its very own improvised explosive device (IED) buried in
its copper wires, just waiting for Stormin' Stephen Conroy to drive by in
his fancy NBN. It's enough to add yet more risk to the great unknown of
whether anyone would want to invest in the minister's back-of-the-envelope
$43 billion business plan.

Just as primitive IEDs continue to cause massive grief for the world's most
advanced military in Iraq and Afghanistan, Telstra's old-fashioned copper
wires could yet blow a large whole in Conroy's fanciful fibre enterprise.

There's a hint of that tucked away in the dubious document tabled,
accidentally or not, by Conroy. Never mind what the tabling says about the
minister's attention to detail or the Australian Competition and Consumer
Commission's difficulty in dealing with valuations, there are a few
interesting paragraphs on page 47 that seem to confirm speculation that
access costs to Stormin' Stephen's fibre network while be vastly more
expensive than the present network.

Wouldn't it be funny if the Government plunged $43 billion on a network only
to find that a great many customers were happy to download their pirated
movies a little less quickly when it's at a much cheaper cost.

The paragraphs in question canvas the ACCC's view of linking access prices
to the depreciated values of the assets. The ACCC claims the historic cost
of the fixed common access network (CAN) is about $17 billion while its net
value is about $8 billion.

"It appears that around 58 per cent of the historic value of copper cables
has been depreciated. In addition, 40 per cent of the value of ducts and
pipes, 64 per cent of the value of pair gain systems and 72 per cent of the
value of radio bearer equipment have been depreciated," the ACCC report
says.

"Linking access prices to depreciated asset values may create concerns over
large jumps in prices when assets are actually replaced. For example, assume
that an asset cost $100 to build, has a useful life of ten years, has been
depreciated on a straight line basis over this period, and its replacement
cost is not changing.

"In the last year of the asset's life, the access price would be based on a
net (depreciated) value of $10. In the following year when that asset is
replaced, the access price would be based on a gross (yet to be depreciated)
value of $100.

"There may therefore be a large and sudden increase in access prices."

In other words, the regulator would set a much lower access price for the
depreciated copper assets than the fancy, expensive and un-depreciated new
fibre network.

Just how much is that promised faster download worth to the average domestic
consumer at a time when other utility charges will be soaring as the carbon
charge starts to bite?

Dodgy, untested business case

No wonder Conroy is bending, if not breaking, Australia's usual precepts of
private property rights as he seeks to bludgeon Telstra into submission. He
has a dodgy, un-tested business case for the Rudd Government's biggest
infrastructure spend and the last thing he wants is competition. Ironic,
isn't it?

If I remember my high school economics text book, there was a simplistic
definition of communism being when the state owns and controls the factors
of production, while socialism is when the state controls the factors of
production. Conroy's attempt at de facto nationalisation of the Telstra
network takes his ALP left faction an ugly step closer to some of the
efforts of tin-pot South American regimes.

In dealing with this unprincipled method of ramming through the minister's
pet project, Telstra has the option of giving the bully what he claims to
want - real separation - but doing it in such a way that the network company
is in effect a powerful IED that can extract fair compensation from the
Government.

Completely splitting Telstra - distributing the hived-off company as
pro-rata shares to existing Telstra shareholders - could leave Wireless
Telstra free to do what it has been doing best without any ramifications
from the competitive tension Wired Telstra could create with expensive NBN.

That might be the only way to escape the commercial blackmail presently
being applied by the Federal Government. It would certainly make any
institution or individual think twice about putting their money behind
Conroy's envelope.

And that's already going to be a hard sell. The only thing we know for sure
about future communications technology is that it won't be what we presently
expect.

Michael Pascoe is a BusinessDay contributing editor.


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Old 11-09-2009, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: Telstra's copper surprise for Conroy

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:15:38 +0800, "Aussie Bob" <aussiebob@telstra,com.au>
wrote:

>Wouldn't it be funny if the Government plunged $43 billion on a network only
>to find that a great many customers were happy to download their pirated
>movies a little less quickly when it's at a much cheaper cost.


Hilarious, Bob Bot.
>


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Old 11-09-2009, 11:24 AM
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
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Default Re: Telstra's copper surprise for Conroy

Polly the Parrot wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:15:38 +0800, "Aussie Bob" <aussiebob@telstra,com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't it be funny if the Government plunged $43 billion on a network only
>> to find that a great many customers were happy to download their pirated
>> movies a little less quickly when it's at a much cheaper cost.

>
> Hilarious, Bob Bot.


Yes, all those pirates must be happy with KRudd. They'll be able to thieve much
quicker once the NBN is ready.

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical ******** and pompous ****wit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE **** UP YOU DUMB ****!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you ****ers think!"
- KRudd the KRude at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

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Old 11-09-2009, 04:48 PM
Rod Speed
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Woggy Blob wrote:
> From
> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/busi...1029-hmif.html
>
> Telstra could have its very own improvised explosive device (IED)
> buried in its copper wires, just waiting for Stormin' Stephen Conroy
> to drive by in his fancy NBN. It's enough to add yet more risk to the
> great unknown of whether anyone would want to invest in the
> minister's back-of-the-envelope $43 billion business plan.
>
> Just as primitive IEDs continue to cause massive grief for the
> world's most advanced military in Iraq and Afghanistan, Telstra's
> old-fashioned copper wires could yet blow a large whole in Conroy's
> fanciful fibre enterprise.
> There's a hint of that tucked away in the dubious document tabled,
> accidentally or not, by Conroy. Never mind what the tabling says
> about the minister's attention to detail or the Australian
> Competition and Consumer Commission's difficulty in dealing with
> valuations, there are a few interesting paragraphs on page 47 that
> seem to confirm speculation that access costs to Stormin' Stephen's
> fibre network while be vastly more expensive than the present network.
>
> Wouldn't it be funny if the Government plunged $43 billion on a
> network only to find that a great many customers were happy to
> download their pirated movies a little less quickly when it's at a
> much cheaper cost.
> The paragraphs in question canvas the ACCC's view of linking access
> prices to the depreciated values of the assets. The ACCC claims the
> historic cost of the fixed common access network (CAN) is about $17
> billion while its net value is about $8 billion.
>
> "It appears that around 58 per cent of the historic value of copper
> cables has been depreciated. In addition, 40 per cent of the value of
> ducts and pipes, 64 per cent of the value of pair gain systems and 72
> per cent of the value of radio bearer equipment have been
> depreciated," the ACCC report says.
>
> "Linking access prices to depreciated asset values may create
> concerns over large jumps in prices when assets are actually
> replaced. For example, assume that an asset cost $100 to build, has a
> useful life of ten years, has been depreciated on a straight line
> basis over this period, and its replacement cost is not changing.
>
> "In the last year of the asset's life, the access price would be
> based on a net (depreciated) value of $10. In the following year when
> that asset is replaced, the access price would be based on a gross
> (yet to be depreciated) value of $100.
>
> "There may therefore be a large and sudden increase in access prices."
>
> In other words, the regulator would set a much lower access price for
> the depreciated copper assets than the fancy, expensive and
> un-depreciated new fibre network.
>
> Just how much is that promised faster download worth to the average
> domestic consumer at a time when other utility charges will be
> soaring as the carbon charge starts to bite?
>
> Dodgy, untested business case
>
> No wonder Conroy is bending, if not breaking, Australia's usual
> precepts of private property rights as he seeks to bludgeon Telstra
> into submission. He has a dodgy, un-tested business case for the Rudd
> Government's biggest infrastructure spend and the last thing he wants
> is competition. Ironic, isn't it?
>
> If I remember my high school economics text book, there was a
> simplistic definition of communism being when the state owns and
> controls the factors of production, while socialism is when the state
> controls the factors of production. Conroy's attempt at de facto
> nationalisation of the Telstra network takes his ALP left faction an
> ugly step closer to some of the efforts of tin-pot South American
> regimes.
> In dealing with this unprincipled method of ramming through the
> minister's pet project, Telstra has the option of giving the bully
> what he claims to want - real separation - but doing it in such a way
> that the network company is in effect a powerful IED that can extract
> fair compensation from the Government.
>
> Completely splitting Telstra - distributing the hived-off company as
> pro-rata shares to existing Telstra shareholders - could leave
> Wireless Telstra free to do what it has been doing best without any
> ramifications from the competitive tension Wired Telstra could create
> with expensive NBN.
> That might be the only way to escape the commercial blackmail
> presently being applied by the Federal Government. It would certainly
> make any institution or individual think twice about putting their
> money behind Conroy's envelope.
>
> And that's already going to be a hard sell. The only thing we know
> for sure about future communications technology is that it won't be
> what we presently expect.
>
> Michael Pascoe is a BusinessDay contributing editor.


And has never ever had a ****ing clue about anything at all, ever.



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