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Old 10-07-2009, 09:15 AM
Aussie Bob
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From
http://www.commsday.com/node/577

Australia's leading telecommunications expert, Paul Day, reports:

A Senate Committee investigating Telstra’s potential break-up has been
inundated with submissions from irate shareholders. The committee is charged
with investigating the new ‘Competition and Consumer Safeguards’ Bill which
will see Telstra either ‘voluntarily’ structurally separate or be forcibly
functionally separated, and has already received 22 public submissions ahead
of deadline– predominantly from shareholders decrying the move as a
“monumental swindle.”

“This proposed legislation to strip Telstra of its infrastructure monopoly
is a monumental swindle,” a submission from an individual named Veronica
Nicholls stated. “Telstra shareholders paid a premium for their shares and
should be fully compensated. All Australians should stand up against a
government who seem to consider it a right to intimidate its citizens into
submission,” she said, adding that shareholders would “show their anger at
the ballot box.”

Numerous other submissions continued the colourful tirade against the
legislation. “The options given to Telstra are simply – if Telstra doesn’t
cut off both arms, the Government is going to take off both legs. Either way
it is going to be a painful death,” one stated. “It is grossly unfair.
Looked at from any point of view, it is commercial blackmail and morally and
ethically disgraceful.”

The submissions have been posted online just as Telstra is expected to
reveal its own response to the legislation. The company had come under fire
from certain shareholders in recent weeks for its muted response to the
Bill, but CEO David Thodey declared he would elaborate on Telstra’s position
before the next meeting of the separate NBN Senate Select Committee. The
committee will meet today in Melbourne, and on Thursday in Hobart.

Telstra is understood to have completed a submission outlining its response,
but the company is yet to make it public.

Despite Telstra’s quiet approach to government relations under Thodey,
additional submissions from shareholders accused the federal government of
an “outrageous abuse of power.” One individual said they were at a “total
loss to understand” the government’s policy, while yet another expressed
“dismay and horror” at the proposed separation.

“I as a shareholder have paid dearly for Telstra’s infrastructure and under
what right does the Government have to take, force the sale or reduce the
ability for me as a shareholder to get a return on my capital,” another
submission asked.


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Old 10-07-2009, 03:49 PM
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:15:19 +0800, Aussie Bob wrote:

> From
> http://www.commsday.com/node/577
>
> Australia's leading telecommunications expert, Paul Day, reports:
>
> A Senate Committee investigating Telstra’s potential break-up has been
> inundated with submissions from irate shareholders. The committee is
> charged with investigating the new ‘Competition and Consumer Safeguards’
> Bill which will see Telstra either ‘voluntarily’ structurally separate
> or be forcibly functionally separated, and has already received 22
> public submissions ahead of deadline– predominantly from shareholders
> decrying the move as a “monumental swindle.”


Where were these people when Sol Trujillo was saying similar things?

Perhaps if these people had spoken up then, Trujillo wouldn't have felt
the need to.

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Old 10-07-2009, 05:49 PM
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Aussie Bob wrote:

> From
> http://www.commsday.com/node/577


> Australia's leading telecommunications expert,


Like hell he is anything even remotely resembling anything like that.

> Paul Day, reports:


> A Senate Committee investigating Telstra's potential break-up has been inundated with submissions from irate
> shareholders.


And Rudd and Conroy just keep yawning.

> The committee is charged with investigating the new 'Competition and Consumer Safeguards' Bill which will see Telstra
> either 'voluntarily'
> structurally separate or be forcibly functionally separated, and has
> already received 22 public submissions ahead of deadline-predominantly from shareholders decrying the move as a
> "monumental swindle."


And Rudd and Conroy just keep yawning.

> "This proposed legislation to strip Telstra of its infrastructure
> monopoly is a monumental swindle," a submission from an individual named Veronica Nicholls stated. "Telstra
> shareholders paid a premium for their shares


Like hell they did.

> and should be fully compensated. All Australians should stand up against a government who seem to consider it a right
> to intimidate its citizens into submission," she said, adding that shareholders would "show their anger at the ballot
> box."


And Rudd and Conroy just keep yawning.

> Numerous other submissions continued the colourful tirade against the legislation. "The options given to Telstra are
> simply - if Telstra
> doesn't cut off both arms, the Government is going to take off both
> legs. Either way it is going to be a painful death," one stated. "It
> is grossly unfair. Looked at from any point of view, it is commercial
> blackmail and morally and ethically disgraceful."


And Rudd and Conroy just keep yawning.

> The submissions have been posted online just as Telstra is expected to reveal its own response to the legislation. The
> company had come
> under fire from certain shareholders in recent weeks for its muted
> response to the Bill, but CEO David Thodey declared he would
> elaborate on Telstra's position before the next meeting of the
> separate NBN Senate Select Committee. The committee will meet today in Melbourne, and on Thursday in Hobart.


And Rudd and Conroy just keep yawning.

> Telstra is understood to have completed a submission outlining its response, but the company is yet to make it public.


> Despite Telstra's quiet approach to government relations under Thodey, additional submissions from shareholders
> accused the federal government of an "outrageous abuse of power."


And Rudd and Conroy just keep yawning.

> One individual said they were at a "total loss to understand" the government's policy,
> while yet another expressed "dismay and horror" at the proposed separation.


And Rudd and Conroy just keep yawning.

> "I as a shareholder have paid dearly for Telstra's infrastructure


You paid dearly for allowing stupid yanks to **** over relations with the govt.

> and under what right does the Government have to take, force the sale or reduce the ability for me as a shareholder to
> get a return on my capital," another submission asked.


The govt has every right to do that.



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Old 10-07-2009, 05:50 PM
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Horry wrote
> Aussie Bob wrote


>> From
>> http://www.commsday.com/node/577


>> Australia's leading telecommunications expert, Paul Day, reports:


>> A Senate Committee investigating Telstra's potential break-up has
>> been inundated with submissions from irate shareholders. The
>> committee is charged with investigating the new 'Competition and
>> Consumer Safeguards' Bill which will see Telstra either
>> 'voluntarily' structurally separate or be forcibly functionally
>> separated, and has already received 22 public submissions ahead of
>> deadline- predominantly from shareholders decrying the move as a
>> "monumental swindle."


> Where were these people when Sol Trujillo was saying similar things?


> Perhaps if these people had spoken up then, Trujillo wouldn't have felt the need to.


Pure fantasy. That fool would have done that anyway. Burgess in spades.



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Old 10-07-2009, 07:38 PM
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:50:06 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> Horry wrote
>> Aussie Bob wrote

>
>>> From
>>> http://www.commsday.com/node/577

>
>>> Australia's leading telecommunications expert, Paul Day, reports:

>
>>> A Senate Committee investigating Telstra's potential break-up has been
>>> inundated with submissions from irate shareholders. The committee is
>>> charged with investigating the new 'Competition and Consumer
>>> Safeguards' Bill which will see Telstra either 'voluntarily'
>>> structurally separate or be forcibly functionally separated, and has
>>> already received 22 public submissions ahead of deadline-
>>> predominantly from shareholders decrying the move as a "monumental
>>> swindle."

>
>> Where were these people when Sol Trujillo was saying similar things?

>
>> Perhaps if these people had spoken up then, Trujillo wouldn't have felt
>> the need to.

>
> Pure fantasy. That fool would have done that anyway. Burgess in spades.


Done what?

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Old 10-08-2009, 12:39 AM
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Horry wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Horry wrote
>>> Aussie Bob wrote


>>>> From
>>>> http://www.commsday.com/node/577


>>>> Australia's leading telecommunications expert, Paul Day, reports:


>>>> A Senate Committee investigating Telstra's potential break-up has
>>>> been inundated with submissions from irate shareholders. The
>>>> committee is charged with investigating the new 'Competition and
>>>> Consumer Safeguards' Bill which will see Telstra either
>>>> 'voluntarily' structurally separate or be forcibly functionally
>>>> separated, and has already received 22 public submissions ahead of
>>>> deadline- predominantly from shareholders decrying the move as a
>>>> "monumental swindle."


>>> Where were these people when Sol Trujillo was saying similar things?


>>> Perhaps if these people had spoken up then, Trujillo wouldn't have felt the need to.


>> Pure fantasy. That fool would have done that anyway. Burgess in spades.


> Done what?


Felt the need to, stupid.



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Old 10-09-2009, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Telstra shareholders up in arms over "monumental swindle"

Phil,,
it's nap time...



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