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Old 10-02-2007, 10:04 AM
Jonathan Wilson
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Default What is wrong with Next G?

I see lots of people here criticizing Next G, calling it Extra G or Last G.
What do people have against Next G? Telstra are using the same UMTS and
HSDPA standards as 3 Mobile and many other carriers worldwide (especially
in Europe). My only criticism with Next G is the way they try to force the
cheap Asian phones (from ZTE/LG) down your throats instead of the superior
phones from major players like Motorola.

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Old 10-02-2007, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: What is wrong with Next G?

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> My only criticism with Next G is the way they
> try to force the cheap Asian phones (from ZTE/LG) down your throats
> instead of the superior phones from major players like Motorola.


A friend of mine was with Tel$tra since the analogue days and a few
months ago was due to upgrade. He requested an N95 and Tel$tra said NO
it doesn't meet the standards of the 3G (2100MHz) network, which is the
biggest load of CRAP out considering it shares the same network with 3
who sell the N95!

My friend is now on 3 with an N95 and spending less than half of what he
was on Tel$tra AND using the phone MORE.

Considering Tel$tra are forcing **** like the ZTE on customers it is
obvious the only reason the N95 doesn't meet Tel$tra's is because the
couldn't get them at the price they wanted!

So much for standards!


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Old 10-02-2007, 07:15 PM
Rod Speed
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Jonathan Wilson <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote:

> I see lots of people here criticizing Next G, calling it Extra G or Last G. What do people have against Next G?


Three things, it uses a band that no one else bothers
with for that mode, so the choice of handset is pathetic.

The other problem is that most of those who find cdma is fine for what they
want to do have no need to change to NextG if it wasnt for the arsehole yanks
deciding to turn the cdma system off to force everyone to change over.

The data charges are a complete ripoff.

> Telstra are using the same UMTS and HSDPA standards as 3 Mobile and many other carriers worldwide (especially in
> Europe).


But they dont use the same band.

> My only criticism with Next G is the way they try to force the cheap Asian phones (from ZTE/LG) down your throats
> instead of the superior phones from major players like Motorola.


The main problem is the pathetic choice of handsets.



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Old 10-02-2007, 09:24 PM
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:04:24 +0800, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

> I see lots of people here criticizing Next G, calling it Extra G or Last
> G. What do people have against Next G? Telstra are using the same UMTS
> and HSDPA standards as 3 Mobile and many other carriers worldwide
> (especially in Europe).


No they're not. They're using 850MHz UMTS - that's not what they use in
Europe. I'm going to Europe soon and i'll only be able to use my Samsung
phone on the GSM network, cos it's not compatible with European UMTS
networks.

> My only criticism with Next G is the way they
> try to force the cheap Asian phones (from ZTE/LG) down your throats
> instead of the superior phones from major players like Motorola.


That's because manufacturers don't want to make special phones for a very
small Australian market.

Telstra are up to their usual stupid tricks and making sure people in
rural areas are disadvantaged when they take their phones anywhere else.

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Old 10-02-2007, 11:28 PM
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Will Kemp wrote:

> No they're not. They're using 850MHz UMTS - that's not what
> they use in Europe. I'm going to Europe soon and i'll only be
> able to use my Samsung phone on the GSM network, cos it's not
> compatible with European UMTS networks.
>
>> My only criticism with Next G is the way they
>> try to force the cheap Asian phones (from ZTE/LG) down your
>> throats instead of the superior phones from major players
>> like Motorola.

>
> That's because manufacturers don't want to make special phones
> for a very small Australian market.


They're counting on 850 MHz UMTS taking off in the USA, driving
the availability of handsets.

There's a problem with the proliferation of UMTS frequencies in
the USA though. Live UMTS networks there use 850 and 1900 MHz,
not the 850 and 2100 MHz we use here. But there are planned US
UMTS networks using 2100 and 1700 MHz. See
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml

John

> Telstra are up to their usual stupid tricks and making sure
> people in rural areas are disadvantaged when they take their
> phones anywhere else.




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Old 10-03-2007, 11:53 AM
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On Oct 3, 9:28 am, John Henderson <jhenRemoveT...@talk21.com> wrote:
> Will Kemp wrote:
> > No they're not. They're using 850MHz UMTS - that's not what
> > they use in Europe. I'm going to Europe soon and i'll only be
> > able to use my Samsung phone on the GSM network, cos it's not
> > compatible with European UMTS networks.

>
> >> My only criticism with Next G is the way they
> >> try to force the cheap Asian phones (from ZTE/LG) down your
> >> throats instead of the superior phones from major players
> >> like Motorola.

>
> > That's because manufacturers don't want to make special phones
> > for a very small Australian market.

>
> They're counting on 850 MHz UMTS taking off in the USA, driving
> the availability of handsets.
>
> There's a problem with the proliferation of UMTS frequencies in
> the USA though. Live UMTS networks there use 850 and 1900 MHz,
> not the 850 and 2100 MHz we use here. But there are planned US
> UMTS networks using 2100 and 1700 MHz. Seehttp://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml
>
> John
>
>
>
> > Telstra are up to their usual stupid tricks and making sure
> > people in rural areas are disadvantaged when they take their
> > phones anywhere else.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


According to gsm world, there's about 70 carriers in the USA, 27 of
which are 850 and one is the planned 1700.


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Old 10-03-2007, 09:29 PM
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:53:13 -0700 Spokes may have written:
> > - Show quoted text -


> According to gsm world, there's about 70 carriers in the USA, 27 of
> which are 850


Only two (2) of which are _3G_ 850, one which apepars to be a new small
ma and pa operation. So that really only leavs AT&T and Telstra as the
only two in the world with UMTS at 850MHz, with Telstra being the first
cab off the rank.

They will come though... 850 and 900MHz UMTS has its distinct advantages
and others are looking into it (eg, Optus and Telecom NZ).

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Old 10-04-2007, 01:14 AM
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"Simon Templar" <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in message
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> Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> > My only criticism with Next G is the way they
> > try to force the cheap Asian phones (from ZTE/LG) down your throats
> > instead of the superior phones from major players like Motorola.

>
> A friend of mine was with Tel$tra since the analogue days and a few
> months ago was due to upgrade. He requested an N95 and Tel$tra said NO
> it doesn't meet the standards of the 3G (2100MHz) network, which is the
> biggest load of CRAP out considering it shares the same network with 3
> who sell the N95!


NextG is not UMTS-2100MHz. It is 850MHz, not all handsets support UMTS-850.

Telstra/3 have their shared 2100MHz network, the N95 will work fine on that.
Telstra will happily sell you a Nokia 6120C, which can talk UMTS-850.

Matt.



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Old 10-04-2007, 02:32 AM
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:14:56 +1000 Matt Richards may have written:
> NextG is not UMTS-2100MHz. It is 850MHz, not all handsets support UMTS-850.


s/not all/few/

> Telstra/3 have their shared 2100MHz network, the N95 will work fine on
> that. Telstra will happily sell you a Nokia 6120C, which can talk
> UMTS-850.


....and UMTS 2100. Handy for when you're roaming overseas and still want
useable data speeds/latency. POP3SSL over GPRS back to Oz is painful.

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Old 10-04-2007, 02:51 AM
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:29:32 -0000 Paul Day may have written:
> Only two (2) of which are _3G_ 850, one which apepars to be a new small
> ma and pa operation. So that really only leavs AT&T and Telstra as the
> only two in the world with UMTS at 850MHz, with Telstra being the first
> cab off the rank.


Actually, I think Rogers in Canada have/are deploying one too.

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Old 10-04-2007, 01:35 PM
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"Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
news:470217aa@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>I see lots of people here criticizing Next G, calling it Extra G or Last G.


Like it or lump it. Makes absolutely no sense to
allow telstra to rape the consumer using NextG.

> What do people have against Next G? Telstra are using the same UMTS and
> HSDPA standards as 3 Mobile and many other carriers worldwide (especially
> in Europe). My only criticism with Next G is the way they try to force the
> cheap Asian phones (from ZTE/LG) down your throats instead of the superior
> phones from major players like Motorola.




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Old 10-05-2007, 08:22 AM
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"Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
news:470217aa@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>I see lots of people here criticizing Next G, calling it Extra G or Last G.
>What do people have against Next G? Telstra are using the same UMTS and
>HSDPA standards as 3 Mobile and many other carriers worldwide (especially


Dunno, most of the people here are just a pack of ******s



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Old 10-05-2007, 11:25 AM
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:22:30 +0000, Michael wrote:

> "Jonathan Wilson" <jfwfreo@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
> news:470217aa@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>I see lots of people here criticizing Next G, calling it Extra G or Last
>>G. What do people have against Next G? Telstra are using the same UMTS
>>and HSDPA standards as 3 Mobile and many other carriers worldwide
>>(especially

>
> Dunno, most of the people here are just a pack of ******s


And the rest are tel$cum apologists, ey?

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Old 10-07-2007, 05:24 AM
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Jonathan Wilson wrote...

> I see lots of people here criticizing Next G, calling it Extra G or Last G.
> What do people have against Next G? Telstra are using the same UMTS and


I'm a NextG customer. Technically it's OK, insofar as making calls go. Its data
services aren't that flash. I've played with video calls. They were nothing like
the ads that I'm seeing on TV at the moment. The images on the ads make it look
like fluid broadcast quality. WHereas my experience is akin to a jerky webcam.

Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum speed
that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.

Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are expensive. You
can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the other rates, they're still
not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt that you'd want to use it that
much.

As for the phones, I can only speak of the Samsung A501 and more recently, a
Palm Treo 750. As phones go, the Samsung's a better bit of gear. But the Palm is
pretty nifty with its PDA and "smart" phone features.

I've yet to test the Palm's reception qualities out of town. If it performs
better than what the Samsung did down Phillip Island next weekend, I'll be
happy.


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Old 10-07-2007, 05:24 AM
Marts
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Jonathan Wilson wrote...

> I see lots of people here criticizing Next G, calling it Extra G or Last G.
> What do people have against Next G? Telstra are using the same UMTS and


I'm a NextG customer. Technically it's OK, insofar as making calls go. Its data
services aren't that flash. I've played with video calls. They were nothing like
the ads that I'm seeing on TV at the moment. The images on the ads make it look
like fluid broadcast quality. WHereas my experience is akin to a jerky webcam.

Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum speed
that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.

Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are expensive. You
can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the other rates, they're still
not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt that you'd want to use it that
much.

As for the phones, I can only speak of the Samsung A501 and more recently, a
Palm Treo 750. As phones go, the Samsung's a better bit of gear. But the Palm is
pretty nifty with its PDA and "smart" phone features.

I've yet to test the Palm's reception qualities out of town. If it performs
better than what the Samsung did down Phillip Island next weekend, I'll be
happy.


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Old 10-07-2007, 09:00 AM
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Marts wrote:
> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum speed
> that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.


How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
get 2Mbps+

> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are expensive. You
> can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the other rates, they're still
> not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt that you'd want to use it that
> much.


The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs has
increased significantly as well.

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Old 10-07-2007, 09:00 AM
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Marts wrote:
> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum speed
> that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.


How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
get 2Mbps+

> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are expensive. You
> can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the other rates, they're still
> not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt that you'd want to use it that
> much.


The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs has
increased significantly as well.

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Old 10-07-2007, 09:25 AM
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davmel <davmel_not_here@notvalid.com> wrote:
> Marts wrote:
>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.

>
> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
> get 2Mbps+
>
>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.


> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week so that is a HUGE cut in data rates


Pity its STILL a complete ****ing ripoff.

> plus the value of the data packs has increased significantly as well.


Pity its STILL a complete ****ing ripoff.



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Old 10-07-2007, 09:25 AM
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davmel <davmel_not_here@notvalid.com> wrote:
> Marts wrote:
>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.

>
> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
> get 2Mbps+
>
>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.


> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week so that is a HUGE cut in data rates


Pity its STILL a complete ****ing ripoff.

> plus the value of the data packs has increased significantly as well.


Pity its STILL a complete ****ing ripoff.



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Old 10-07-2007, 09:57 AM
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:

> Marts wrote:
>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum
>> speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.

>
> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
> get 2Mbps+
>
>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt
>> that you'd want to use it that much.

>
> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week


Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!

That means only $40,000 for 20GB, ey? That's amazingly competitive! The
ADSL companies are going to have to pick up their act a bit if they're
going manage to stay in business now!

****! That's such a good deal i think i'm going to have to start
downloading movies right now!

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Old 10-07-2007, 10:52 AM
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000 davmel may have written:
> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
> so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs
> has increased significantly as well.


1.5c/kB to 0.2c/kB? Got a URL to that one? Any idea if the data packs
are going down similarly?

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Old 10-07-2007, 10:58 AM
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000 davmel may have written:
> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
> so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs
> has increased significantly as well.


Seems they've updated their FAQ:

http://telstramobile.custhelp.com/cg...i=&p_topview=1

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Old 10-07-2007, 11:04 AM
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Paul Day wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000 davmel may have written:
>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
>> so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs
>> has increased significantly as well.

>
> 1.5c/kB to 0.2c/kB? Got a URL to that one? Any idea if the data packs
> are going down similarly?


Consumer plans:
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/mob.../datapacks.htm

Business plans:
http://www.telstra.com.au/business/p...payasyougo.htm
http://www.telstra.com.au/business/p.../datapacks.htm

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Old 10-07-2007, 11:09 AM
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Will Kemp wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>
>> Marts wrote:
>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum
>>> speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.

>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
>> get 2Mbps+
>>
>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt
>>> that you'd want to use it that much.

>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week

>
> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!


Given that you're saving $13,000/GB over the old casual pricing it's a
big discount.

If you don't like the pricing then use another service.

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Old 10-07-2007, 11:14 AM
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:09:03 +1000, davmel wrote:

> Will Kemp wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>>
>>> Marts wrote:
>>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>>>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.
>>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
>>> get 2Mbps+
>>>
>>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>>>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.
>>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week

>>
>> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!

>
> Given that you're saving $13,000/GB over the old casual pricing it's a
> big discount.
>
> If you don't like the pricing then use another service.


I don't like the pricing. And i do use another service. Thanks for your
helpful suggestion.

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Old 10-07-2007, 11:27 AM
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"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>
>> Marts wrote:
>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum
>>> speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.

>>
>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
>> get 2Mbps+
>>
>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt
>>> that you'd want to use it that much.

>>
>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week

>
> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!
>
> That means only $40,000 for 20GB, ey? That's amazingly competitive! The


No, there isnt a 20gb data pack for $40000, ****wit

> ****! That's such a good deal i think i'm going to have to start
> downloading movies right now!


Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a month

Maybe you are that ****wit :-)



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Old 10-07-2007, 11:27 AM
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"Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:09:03 +1000, davmel wrote:
>
>> Will Kemp wrote:
>>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marts wrote:
>>>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>>>>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.
>>>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
>>>> get 2Mbps+
>>>>
>>>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>>>>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.
>>>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
>>>
>>> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!

>>
>> Given that you're saving $13,000/GB over the old casual pricing it's a
>> big discount.
>>
>> If you don't like the pricing then use another service.

>
> I don't like the pricing. And i do use another service. Thanks for your
> helpful suggestion.


**** off Kemp.



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Old 10-07-2007, 06:46 PM
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davmel <davmel_not_here@notvalid.com> wrote:
> Will Kemp wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>>
>>> Marts wrote:
>>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>>>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236
>>>> kbps.
>>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I
>>> regularly get 2Mbps+
>>>
>>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>>>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.
>>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past
>>> week

>>
>> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!

>
> Given that you're saving $13,000/GB over the old casual pricing it's a big discount.


Both are an utterly obscene ripoff.

> If you don't like the pricing then use another service.


Only a fool would use NextG for data of any volume. You qualify.



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Old 10-07-2007, 09:55 PM
Will Kemp
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:27:35 +0000, Michael wrote:

> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
> news:4708bf99$0$23786$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:09:03 +1000, davmel wrote:
>>
>>> Will Kemp wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Marts wrote:
>>>>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>>>>>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236
>>>>>> kbps.
>>>>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I
>>>>> regularly get 2Mbps+
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>>>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>>>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>>>>>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.
>>>>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past
>>>>> week
>>>>
>>>> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!
>>>
>>> Given that you're saving $13,000/GB over the old casual pricing it's a
>>> big discount.
>>>
>>> If you don't like the pricing then use another service.

>>
>> I don't like the pricing. And i do use another service. Thanks for your
>> helpful suggestion.

>
> **** off Kemp.


Ah, the ever friendly and helpful voice of tel$cum.

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Old 10-07-2007, 10:02 PM
Will Kemp
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Default Re: What is wrong with Next G?

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:27:24 +0000, Michael wrote:

> "Will Kemp" <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message
> news:4708ad6c$0$23820$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>>
>>> Marts wrote:
>>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>>>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.
>>>
>>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
>>> get 2Mbps+
>>>
>>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>>>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.
>>>
>>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week

>>
>> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!
>>
>> That means only $40,000 for 20GB, ey? That's amazingly competitive! The

>
> No, there isnt a 20gb data pack for $40000, ****wit


I've told you before about eating those mushrooms for breakfast!

>> ****! That's such a good deal i think i'm going to have to start
>> downloading movies right now!

>
> Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a month


Only a ****wit would use tel$cum at all if they didn't have a choice.

> Maybe you are that ****wit :-)


There's no way i'd use any amount of data a month via nextg, little boy.
And the nextg PAYG phones don't work anyway - so you can't use the
network at all, not even your "5 milli bits in a month".


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