Anonymous Services - Can We Get A List Going And Feedback?

Forget Canada they have to close of ties to the USA and are
practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is concerned,
there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...

Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find. This map is
better, and more up to date. I just wish it gave more information
about why each state received the ranking it did.

https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf

I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
standpoint...

Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 20 years, I'd
take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the better
places to run a VPN from...

THANKS

P.S. Something I just ran across;
http://www.laquadrature.net/en/icela...-communication
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:01:33 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> Forget Canada they have to close of ties to the USA and are
> practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is concerned,
> there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>
> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find. This map is
> better, and more up to date. I just wish it gave more information
> about why each state received the ranking it did.
>
> https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>
> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
> standpoint...
>
> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 20 years, I'd
> take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the better
> places to run a VPN from...
>
> THANKS
>
> P.S. Something I just ran across;
> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/icela...-communication

For the least expensive solution for good anonymity, you want a full
VPN connection, not just a simple SSL proxy. In the interest of full
disclosure, I am an *advisor* for XeroBank, and that is how I know
where the holes are, and who the good competitors are.

<multiple Wilders winkers ;)>

Sign up for Xerobank is my grail.
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On 1/29/11 12:01 AM, DasFox wrote:
> Forget Canada they have to close of ties to the USA and are
> practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is concerned,
> there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>
> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find. This map is
> better, and more up to date. I just wish it gave more information
> about why each state received the ranking it did.
>
> https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>
> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
> standpoint...
>
> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 20 years, I'd
> take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the better
> places to run a VPN from...
>
> THANKS
>
> P.S. Something I just ran across;
> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/icela...-communication

For anonymous E-mail, consider using an anonymous remailer application
such as Jack B. Nymble and any set of the remailers at
alt.privacy.anon-server.stats.

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because of spam from that source.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:05:29 -0500, Steve Topletz, Wizard, Operations
Advisor (wink) wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:01:33 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> Forget Canada they have to close of ties to the USA and are
>> practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is concerned,
>> there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>>
>> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find. This map is
>> better, and more up to date. I just wish it gave more information
>> about why each state received the ranking it did.
>>
>> https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>>
>> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
>> standpoint...
>>
>> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 20 years, I'd
>> take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the better
>> places to run a VPN from...
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> P.S. Something I just ran across;
>> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/icela...-communication
>
> For the least expensive solution for good anonymity, you want a full
> VPN connection, not just a simple SSL proxy. In the interest of full
> disclosure, I am an *advisor* for XeroBank, and that is how I know
> where the holes are, and who the good competitors are.
>
> <multiple Wilders winkers ;)>
>
> Sign up for Xerobank is my grail.

Xerobank is ****...or shite for Brits...
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 07:41:01 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:

> On 1/29/11 12:01 AM, DasFox wrote:
>> Forget Canada they have to close of ties to the USA and are
>> practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is concerned,
>> there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>>
>> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find. This map is
>> better, and more up to date. I just wish it gave more information
>> about why each state received the ranking it did.
>>
>> https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>>
>> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
>> standpoint...
>>
>> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 20 years, I'd
>> take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the better
>> places to run a VPN from...
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> P.S. Something I just ran across;
>> http://www.laquadrature.net/en/icela...-communication
>
> For anonymous E-mail, consider using an anonymous remailer application
> such as Jack B. Nymble and any set of the remailers at
> alt.privacy.anon-server.stats.

Good Tech but HARD Tech...add Tor...tough for noobs...

Still worthy of mention...

THANKS
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:05:29 -0500, Steve Topletz, Wizard, Operations
Advisor (wink) wrote:

> For the least expensive solution for good anonymity, you want a full
> VPN connection, not just a simple SSL proxy. In the interest of full
> disclosure, I am an *advisor* for XeroBank, and that is how I know
> where the holes are, and who the good competitors are.

Thanks, Whizzard, next time we need to know where the ittle boys
reside, will know who to call.

AssBuster (Topletz).

> <multiple Wilders winkers ;)>
>
> Sign up for Xerobank is my grail.

From which you drink deep...into any ****ing moron's purse who would
pay you a lousy shekel.
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men, I will find something in them which will hang him.¡ ~Cardinal
Richelieu

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:05:00 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:05:29 -0500, Steve Topletz, Wizard, Operations
> Advisor (wink) wrote:
>
>> For the least expensive solution for good anonymity, you want a full
>> VPN connection, not just a simple SSL proxy. In the interest of full
>> disclosure, I am an *advisor* for XeroBank, and that is how I know
>> where the holes are, and who the good competitors are.
>
> Thanks, Whizzard, next time we need to know where the ittle boys
> reside, will know who to call.
>
> AssBuster (Topletz).
>
>> <multiple Wilders winkers ;)>
>>
>> Sign up for Xerobank is my grail.
>
> From which you drink deep...into any ****ing moron's purse who would
> pay you a lousy shekel.

Let's please keep this post alive and on the top...,

There are a lot of people that are into this...

Xerobanks isn't the only service in this entire world offering a
****** VPN service...

EXPOSURE...

THANKS
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faced no greater threat than it does today. But I say this to my
citizenry: I, ever your servant, will continue to defend your liberty
and repel the forces that seek to take it from you! I remain, strong.
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:10:47 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:05:00 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:05:29 -0500, Steve Topletz, Wizard, Operations
>> Advisor (wink) wrote:
>>
>>> For the least expensive solution for good anonymity, you want a full
>>> VPN connection, not just a simple SSL proxy. In the interest of full
>>> disclosure, I am an *advisor* for XeroBank, and that is how I know
>>> where the holes are, and who the good competitors are.
>>
>> Thanks, Whizzard, next time we need to know where the ittle boys
>> reside, will know who to call.
>>
>> AssBuster (Topletz).
>>
>>> <multiple Wilders winkers ;)>
>>>
>>> Sign up for Xerobank is my grail.
>>
>> From which you drink deep...into any ****ing moron's purse who would
>> pay you a lousy shekel.
>
> Let's please keep this post alive and on the top...,
>
> There are a lot of people that are into this...
>
> Xerobanks isn't the only service in this entire world offering a
> ****** VPN service...
>
> EXPOSURE...
>
> THANKS

For the least expensive solution for good anonymity, you want a full
VPN connection, not just a simple SSL proxy...

I would recommend ShadowVPN.com for full VPN ($10/m)...You could also
try SecureTunnel, as they have a solution but it isn't a vpn so your
traffic may leak...

For noobs...I KNOW...What is a FULL VPN...?

THANKS

THANKS

THANKS
--
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faced no greater threat than it does today. But I say this to my
citizenry: I, ever your servant, will continue to defend your liberty
and repel the forces that seek to take it from you! I remain, strong.
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:13:42 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:10:47 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:05:00 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:05:29 -0500, Steve Topletz, Wizard, Operations
>>> Advisor (wink) wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the least expensive solution for good anonymity, you want a full
>>>> VPN connection, not just a simple SSL proxy. In the interest of full
>>>> disclosure, I am an *advisor* for XeroBank, and that is how I know
>>>> where the holes are, and who the good competitors are.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Whizzard, next time we need to know where the ittle boys
>>> reside, will know who to call.
>>>
>>> AssBuster (Topletz).
>>>
>>>> <multiple Wilders winkers ;)>
>>>>
>>>> Sign up for Xerobank is my grail.
>>>
>>> From which you drink deep...into any ****ing moron's purse who would
>>> pay you a lousy shekel.
>>
>> Let's please keep this post alive and on the top...,
>>
>> There are a lot of people that are into this...
>>
>> Xerobanks isn't the only service in this entire world offering a
>> ****** VPN service...
>>
>> EXPOSURE...
>>
>> THANKS
>
> For the least expensive solution for good anonymity, you want a full
> VPN connection, not just a simple SSL proxy...
>
> I would recommend ShadowVPN.com for full VPN ($10/m)...You could also
> try SecureTunnel, as they have a solution but it isn't a vpn so your
> traffic may leak...
>
> For noobs...I KNOW...What is a FULL VPN...?
>
> THANKS
>
> THANKS
>
> THANKS

Dumbfox, VPN stands virtual private network. What it means is in this
context is a vpn connection that captures all traffic exiting your
computer and routes it to the remote network (your "anonymity
provider" or "proxy provider").

If you would like to be a secret XeroAgent, enroll here ;)

http://dark.ai/
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:18:04 -0500, Steve Topletz, Wizard, Operations
Advisor (wink) wrote:

> Dumbfox, VPN stands virtual private network. What it means is in this
> context is a vpn connection that captures all traffic exiting your
> computer and routes it to the remote network (your "anonymity
> provider" or "proxy provider").
>
> If you would like to be a secret XeroAgent, enroll here ;)
>
> http://dark.ai/

Yeah, he can join your other Mossad connection Amir Szekely, the
prolific Android gamer *rofl*

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:01:33 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 20 years, I'd
> take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the better
> places to run a VPN from...

As far as the IP goes, of course just because people can see your IP
that doesn't mean they know who you are...

They just know where you come from and you've EXPOSED yourself to
risks...,

Because now with an IP they can target you to see how strong the box
is against attacks...

If you want to protect that box then you protect that IP...SIMPLE...

And make it not so easy to find, this is all I'm going on about when
it comes to Internet security and so on...

Hide the IP, then you're not exposed to internet threats of any types
you can imagine...

I assumed as GEEKS when I talked about this post everyone had a
clue...

As Geeks you should know that if you want to get hacked you expose
your IP and Ports...,

That's all there is to it...when it comes to loosing your privacy and
anonymity and that's the LEVEL I was coming from...

Protecting that privacy and anonymity, PROTECTING THAT IP...!

HIDE THE IP, PROTECT THE PORTS!

Now with this understanding this is why I was looking at using a VPN
to hide my IP behind... for this simple reason of not hacving it so
easily exposed...

THANKS
--
These are dark times, there is no denying. Our Tech world has perhaps
faced no greater threat than it does today. But I say this to my
citizenry: I, ever your servant, will continue to defend your liberty
and repel the forces that seek to take it from you! I remain, strong.
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:48:19 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> As far as the IP goes, of course just because people can see your IP
> that doesn't mean they know who you are...
>
> They just know where you come from and you've EXPOSED yourself to
> risks...,
>
> Because now with an IP they can target you to see how strong the box
> is against attacks...
>
> If you want to protect that box then you protect that IP...SIMPLE...
>
> And make it not so easy to find, this is all I'm going on about when
> it comes to Internet security and so on...
>
> Hide the IP, then you're not exposed to internet threats of any types
> you can imagine...
>
> I assumed as GEEKS when I talked about this post everyone had a
> clue...
>
> As Geeks you should know that if you want to get hacked you expose
> your IP and Ports...,
>
> That's all there is to it...when it comes to loosing your privacy and
> anonymity and that's the LEVEL I was coming from...
>
> Protecting that privacy and anonymity, PROTECTING THAT IP...!
>
> HIDE THE IP, PROTECT THE PORTS!
>
> Now with this understanding this is why I was looking at using a VPN
> to hide my IP behind... for this simple reason of not hacving it so
> easily exposed...
>
> THANKS

You repeatedly fail to absorb what several other posters before have
educated you to. Your IP is "out there" on a daily basis by automated
aggressors who attack through IP address after IP address.

Puhleeese, don't throw your usual "no Dynamic IP" tantrum, these
addresses are not unusual in many ISP connections using MAC addresses
to which they validate your account. DSL connections are notorious
for dynamic IP assignment.
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men, I will find something in them which will hang him.¡ ~Cardinal
Richelieu

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:48:19 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> Hide the IP, then you're not exposed to internet threats of any types
> you can imagine...
>
> I assumed as GEEKS when I talked about this post everyone had a
> clue...
>
> As Geeks you should know that if you want to get hacked you expose
> your IP and Ports...,
>
> That's all there is to it...when it comes to loosing your privacy and
> anonymity and that's the LEVEL I was coming from...
>
> Protecting that privacy and anonymity, PROTECTING THAT IP...!
>
> HIDE THE IP, PROTECT THE PORTS!

Sorry to say this but you got it wrong. That's absolutely not how it
works.

As long as you don't have an IPv6 address there is no point in hiding
one's IP. There's only a limited pool of public IPv4 addresses and
they are constantly hammered by automated attacks, all of them. Even
if that wasn't the case you most likely got a dynamic IP and whoever
had this IP assigned to before probably didn't use a VPN...

Don't keep any services running facing the internet. If you do make
sure you use a strong MAC system, up to date software and preferably
white list allowed IPs. There really isn't much to worry with the
default home setup these days. OSs got good firewall rules ootb and
pretty much everyone uses a router with NAT.

If you come out stealth here with your home IP you are as secure
against these sort of threats as it gets:

http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

It's different with targeted attacks but I don't think that's part of
your threat model. If you have one other than "all them out thar", you
stupid git.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:17:15 -0500, katio wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:48:19 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> Hide the IP, then you're not exposed to internet threats of any types
>> you can imagine...
>>
>> I assumed as GEEKS when I talked about this post everyone had a
>> clue...
>>
>> As Geeks you should know that if you want to get hacked you expose
>> your IP and Ports...,
>>
>> That's all there is to it...when it comes to loosing your privacy and
>> anonymity and that's the LEVEL I was coming from...
>>
>> Protecting that privacy and anonymity, PROTECTING THAT IP...!
>>
>> HIDE THE IP, PROTECT THE PORTS!
>
> Sorry to say this but you got it wrong. That's absolutely not how it
> works.
>
> As long as you don't have an IPv6 address there is no point in hiding
> one's IP. There's only a limited pool of public IPv4 addresses and
> they are constantly hammered by automated attacks, all of them. Even
> if that wasn't the case you most likely got a dynamic IP and whoever
> had this IP assigned to before probably didn't use a VPN...
>
> Don't keep any services running facing the internet. If you do make
> sure you use a strong MAC system, up to date software and preferably
> white list allowed IPs. There really isn't much to worry with the
> default home setup these days. OSs got good firewall rules ootb and
> pretty much everyone uses a router with NAT.
>
> If you come out stealth here with your home IP you are as secure
> against these sort of threats as it gets:
>
> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
>
> It's different with targeted attacks but I don't think that's part of
> your threat model. If you have one other than "all them out thar", you
> stupid git.

No I don't have it wrong...

Most ISPs where I live do not hand out static IPs for Broadband, of
course they are dynamic, BUT those Dynamic IPs stay with you for 30-45
days...or LIFE...

With your IP out there and a cheapy firewall, you can be owned...

There's a VERY BIG point to hiding your IP and not exposing it and I
can't believe you don't think so...

How do you think people get hacked and what you don't think boxes
don't get hacked anymore? Of course they do...

Also if you come out stealth here with your home IP you are NOT as
secure against these sort of threats as it gets...

Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
not as good as it gets...

Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
anymore...

Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
it's not just as good as it gets...

THANKS
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
> not as good as it gets...
>
> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
> anymore...
>
> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
> it's not just as good as it gets...

Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol
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men, I will find something in them which will hang him.¡ ~Cardinal
Richelieu

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:29 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
>> not as good as it gets...
>>
>> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
>> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
>> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
>> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
>> anymore...
>>
>> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
>> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
>> it's not just as good as it gets...
>
> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
> which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
> unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol

Who says I don't understand that you hack a different OS in a
different way...?

You are certainly not gaining access to Unix like you would Windows
and also all the different firewalls...,

What you think I'm CLUELESS here?"

THANKS
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:26:55 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:29 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>
>>> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
>>> not as good as it gets...
>>>
>>> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
>>> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
>>> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
>>> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
>>> anymore...
>>>
>>> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
>>> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
>>> it's not just as good as it gets...
>>
>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>> which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
>> unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol
>
> Who says I don't understand that you hack a different OS in a
> different way...?
>
> You are certainly not gaining access to Unix like you would Windows
> and also all the different firewalls...,
>
> What you think I'm CLUELESS here?"

You passed on answering the question. MOF, I can't make hide nor hair
out of how your answer above correlates with my rather straightforward
query, what do you think I am clueless here?

> THANKS

Welcome Mr. AssClown
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:28:00 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:26:55 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:29 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>
>>>> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
>>>> not as good as it gets...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
>>>> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
>>>> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
>>>> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
>>>> anymore...
>>>>
>>>> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
>>>> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
>>>> it's not just as good as it gets...
>>>
>>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>>> which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
>>> unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol
>>
>> Who says I don't understand that you hack a different OS in a
>> different way...?
>>
>> You are certainly not gaining access to Unix like you would Windows
>> and also all the different firewalls...,
>>
>> What you think I'm CLUELESS here?"
>
> You passed on answering the question. MOF, I can't make hide nor hair
> out of how your answer above correlates with my rather straightforward
> query, what do you think I am clueless here?
>
>> THANKS
>
> Welcome Mr. AssClown

What question?

And this is starting to go around in circles and is getting silly...

We're suppose to be GEEKS on a SECURITY forum...

I'm not here taking cooking lessons and I'm a TECH Geek that
understands a lot and who also doesn't know everything...,

BUT show me the person who does know everything because there is no
such person....

THANKS
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:29:32 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:28:00 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:26:55 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:29 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
>>>>> not as good as it gets...
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
>>>>> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
>>>>> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
>>>>> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
>>>>> anymore...
>>>>>
>>>>> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
>>>>> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
>>>>> it's not just as good as it gets...
>>>>
>>>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>>>> which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
>>>> unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol
>>>
>>> Who says I don't understand that you hack a different OS in a
>>> different way...?
>>>
>>> You are certainly not gaining access to Unix like you would Windows
>>> and also all the different firewalls...,
>>>
>>> What you think I'm CLUELESS here?"
>>
>> You passed on answering the question. MOF, I can't make hide nor hair
>> out of how your answer above correlates with my rather straightforward
>> query, what do you think I am clueless here?
>>
>>> THANKS
>>
>> Welcome Mr. AssClown
>
> What question?

You're shitting me?

> And this is starting to go around in circles and is getting silly...
>
> We're suppose to be GEEKS on a SECURITY forum...
>
> I'm not here taking cooking lessons and I'm a TECH Geek that
> understands a lot and who also doesn't know everything...,
>
> BUT show me the person who does know everything because there is no
> such person....
>
> THANKS

What an insufferably ignorant AssClown you are.
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men, I will find something in them which will hang him.¡ ~Cardinal
Richelieu

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:30:58 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:29:32 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:28:00 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:26:55 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:29 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
>>>>>> not as good as it gets...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
>>>>>> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
>>>>>> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
>>>>>> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
>>>>>> anymore...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
>>>>>> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
>>>>>> it's not just as good as it gets...
>>>>>
>>>>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>>>>> which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
>>>>> unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol
>>>>
>>>> Who says I don't understand that you hack a different OS in a
>>>> different way...?
>>>>
>>>> You are certainly not gaining access to Unix like you would Windows
>>>> and also all the different firewalls...,
>>>>
>>>> What you think I'm CLUELESS here?"
>>>
>>> You passed on answering the question. MOF, I can't make hide nor hair
>>> out of how your answer above correlates with my rather straightforward
>>> query, what do you think I am clueless here?
>>>
>>>> THANKS
>>>
>>> Welcome Mr. AssClown
>>
>> What question?
>
> You're shitting me?
>
>> And this is starting to go around in circles and is getting silly...
>>
>> We're suppose to be GEEKS on a SECURITY forum...
>>
>> I'm not here taking cooking lessons and I'm a TECH Geek that
>> understands a lot and who also doesn't know everything...,
>>
>> BUT show me the person who does know everything because there is no
>> such person....
>>
>> THANKS
>
> What an insufferably ignorant AssClown you are.

You said to me..;

*No but you passed on answering the question...*

That's why I said what question...?

And that's why I said all the things I said about this all getting
silly and being Geeks and all...

So was this the question(s) you are still looking for...?

Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
which firewall, how is it configured...?

And if so, then I said I understand all these complexities and you
said good...,

Because I'm the only one, which was silly too, because a lot of Geeks
understand all this...,

So why answer something like this when Geeks on this forum... you
being one and me also, need to answer it when we should know, at least
I do, don't you...?

THANKS
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:34:21 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:30:58 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:29:32 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:28:00 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:26:55 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:29 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
>>>>>>> not as good as it gets...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
>>>>>>> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
>>>>>>> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
>>>>>>> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
>>>>>>> anymore...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
>>>>>>> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
>>>>>>> it's not just as good as it gets...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>>>>>> which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
>>>>>> unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Who says I don't understand that you hack a different OS in a
>>>>> different way...?
>>>>>
>>>>> You are certainly not gaining access to Unix like you would Windows
>>>>> and also all the different firewalls...,
>>>>>
>>>>> What you think I'm CLUELESS here?"
>>>>
>>>> You passed on answering the question. MOF, I can't make hide nor hair
>>>> out of how your answer above correlates with my rather straightforward
>>>> query, what do you think I am clueless here?
>>>>
>>>>> THANKS
>>>>
>>>> Welcome Mr. AssClown
>>>
>>> What question?
>>
>> You're shitting me?
>>
>>> And this is starting to go around in circles and is getting silly...
>>>
>>> We're suppose to be GEEKS on a SECURITY forum...
>>>
>>> I'm not here taking cooking lessons and I'm a TECH Geek that
>>> understands a lot and who also doesn't know everything...,
>>>
>>> BUT show me the person who does know everything because there is no
>>> such person....
>>>
>>> THANKS
>>
>> What an insufferably ignorant AssClown you are.
>
> You said to me..;
>
> *No but you passed on answering the question...*
>
> That's why I said what question...?
>
> And that's why I said all the things I said about this all getting
> silly and being Geeks and all...
>
> So was this the question(s) you are still looking for...?
>
> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
> which firewall, how is it configured...?

You know ****ing well that is the question so why not shtfu or answer
it?

> So why answer something like this when Geeks on this forum... you
> being one and me also, need to answer it when we should know, at least
> I do, don't you...?
>
> THANKS

No help me out here. With an answer. Try not to use AssClown TECH...
--
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:36:28 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:34:21 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:30:58 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:29:32 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:28:00 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:26:55 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:29 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
>>>>>>>> not as good as it gets...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
>>>>>>>> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
>>>>>>>> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
>>>>>>>> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
>>>>>>>> anymore...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
>>>>>>>> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
>>>>>>>> it's not just as good as it gets...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>>>>>>> which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
>>>>>>> unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who says I don't understand that you hack a different OS in a
>>>>>> different way...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are certainly not gaining access to Unix like you would Windows
>>>>>> and also all the different firewalls...,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you think I'm CLUELESS here?"
>>>>>
>>>>> You passed on answering the question. MOF, I can't make hide nor hair
>>>>> out of how your answer above correlates with my rather straightforward
>>>>> query, what do you think I am clueless here?
>>>>>
>>>>>> THANKS
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome Mr. AssClown
>>>>
>>>> What question?
>>>
>>> You're shitting me?
>>>
>>>> And this is starting to go around in circles and is getting silly...
>>>>
>>>> We're suppose to be GEEKS on a SECURITY forum...
>>>>
>>>> I'm not here taking cooking lessons and I'm a TECH Geek that
>>>> understands a lot and who also doesn't know everything...,
>>>>
>>>> BUT show me the person who does know everything because there is no
>>>> such person....
>>>>
>>>> THANKS
>>>
>>> What an insufferably ignorant AssClown you are.
>>
>> You said to me..;
>>
>> *No but you passed on answering the question...*
>>
>> That's why I said what question...?
>>
>> And that's why I said all the things I said about this all getting
>> silly and being Geeks and all...
>>
>> So was this the question(s) you are still looking for...?
>>
>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>> which firewall, how is it configured...?
>
> You know ****ing well that is the question so why not shtfu or answer
> it?
>
>> So why answer something like this when Geeks on this forum... you
>> being one and me also, need to answer it when we should know, at least
>> I do, don't you...?
>>
>> THANKS
>
> No help me out here. With an answer. Try not to use AssClown TECH...

Things we have been talking about that Geeks should understand.

1. Geeks should understand IPs...
2. Geeks should understand Ports...
3. Geeks should understand the differences across different platforms
(OS)...
4. Geeks should understand firewalls...

THANKS
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:37:25 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>> So was this the question(s) you are still looking for...?
>>>
>>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>>> which firewall, how is it configured...?
>>
>> You know ****ing well that is the question so why not shtfu or answer
>> it?
>>
>>> So why answer something like this when Geeks on this forum... you
>>> being one and me also, need to answer it when we should know, at least
>>> I do, don't you...?
>>>
>>> THANKS
>>
>> No help me out here. With an answer. Try not to use AssClown TECH...
>
> Things we have been talking about that Geeks should understand.
>
> 1. Geeks should understand IPs...
> 2. Geeks should understand Ports...
> 3. Geeks should understand the differences across different platforms
> (OS)...
> 4. Geeks should understand firewalls...

Okay, we've had to remove back and forth personal bickering posts from
three active threads in this section... You two need to stop bashing
at each other. You are going around in the same circle over and over
in each thread. Neither of you will let the other guy get the last
word, so, it'll never end unless we end it. It's enough, so stop.

At least on Wilders that **** work. I can protect DasFox from making
The Eternal Fukktard of himself. Usenet, meh.

hey DasFox / chuan

In article <ii1fga$49n$1@news.mixmin.net>, DasFox
<dasfox@hushmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 07:41:01 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:
>

snip

> > For anonymous E-mail, consider using an anonymous remailer
> > application such as Jack B. Nymble and any set of the
> > remailers at alt.privacy.anon-server.stats.
>
> Good Tech but HARD Tech...add Tor...tough for noobs...

Lots of noobs use tools like that.

Clueless ******** artists like you have problems when they
actually have to do something instead of just calling themselves
techs and posting nonsense.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:10:29 +0100 (CET), Anne Onime wrote:

> hey DasFox / chuan
>
> In article <ii1fga$49n$1@news.mixmin.net>, DasFox
> <dasfox@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 07:41:01 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>
> snip
>
>>> For anonymous E-mail, consider using an anonymous remailer
>>> application such as Jack B. Nymble and any set of the
>>> remailers at alt.privacy.anon-server.stats.
>>
>> Good Tech but HARD Tech...add Tor...tough for noobs...
>
> Lots of noobs use tools like that.

Wrong...NOOBS SHUN remailers...

> Clueless ******** artists like you have problems when they actually
> have to do something instead of just calling themselves techs and
> posting nonsense.

Then POST Tech or STFU...
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:48:19 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:01:33 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 20 years, I'd
>> take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the better
>> places to run a VPN from...
>
> As far as the IP goes, of course just because people can see your IP
> that doesn't mean they know who you are...
>
> They just know where you come from and you've EXPOSED yourself to
> risks...,
>
> Because now with an IP they can target you to see how strong the box
> is against attacks...
>
> If you want to protect that box then you protect that IP...SIMPLE...
>
> And make it not so easy to find, this is all I'm going on about when
> it comes to Internet security and so on...
>
> Hide the IP, then you're not exposed to internet threats of any types
> you can imagine...
>
> I assumed as GEEKS when I talked about this post everyone had a
> clue...
>
> As Geeks you should know that if you want to get hacked you expose
> your IP and Ports...,
>
> That's all there is to it...when it comes to loosing your privacy and
> anonymity and that's the LEVEL I was coming from...
>
> Protecting that privacy and anonymity, PROTECTING THAT IP...!
>
> HIDE THE IP, PROTECT THE PORTS!
>
> Now with this understanding this is why I was looking at using a VPN
> to hide my IP behind... for this simple reason of not hacving it so
> easily exposed...

Your entire "philosophy" when it comes to on line safety is fubar. Your
basic premise is wrong. Hiding your IP address is both a losing battle, and
unnecessary. Nor will it protect you.

Having your IP address exposed isn't a problem at all. Having ports open
is. And as ironic as it may be, some of the things people try to do to hide
their IP addresses help locate them. If you have open ports the BadGuys(tm)
WILL find them. By way of random scans if nothing else. When they do find
them, they'll probe/attack them. If you're weak and the attacker strong,
you're owned. Simple math any "tech" should understand.

No, the whole secret to keeping yourself safe from port-based attacks is
not having anything available to attack. that means either one of two
things:

1) Don't have ANY open ports. Firewall them off, hide behind NAT, whatever.
But simply having nothing at all listening for any connection attempts will
ALWAYS keep you safe.

2) If you have to have exposed ports, choose well tested and frequently
updated software to listen on them. Not perfect like not running any
publically available services, but it's the "best case" if you must.

As far as IP hiding goes, it's advantageous to obfuscate things in specific
scenarios but it certainly isn't any sort of solution. Tunnels, proxies,
and such can do the deed, but said proxy at the very least knows all, and
proxies are so notorious for leaking information directly, or indirectly by
way of user screwups, that they're not to be trusterd for anything but the
most superficial protection. In fact the only real scenario in which IP
hiding is necessary, is anonymity. If you're striving for something like
that, it's a must. Which is why anonymity is so fragile. :-(

> THANKS

No problem. Always happy to straighten out noobs. :)

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:17:15 -0500, katio wrote:

> If you come out stealth here with your home IP you are as secure
> against these sort of threats as it gets:
>
> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

So called "stealth" is nothing but snake oil, and Gibson is a fraud.

There's HOARDS of script kiddies and their zombie machines out there, right
this moment, spewing random packets out across the net looking for the
"black holes" Gibson's idiocy creates. When a packet simply "disappears" as
per Gibson's flapdoodle, they know for a fact the person on the other end
is clueless, and most likely doesn't have a secure system.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 15:26:00 -0500, Andriod wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:17:15 -0500, katio wrote:
>
>> If you come out stealth here with your home IP you are as secure
>> against these sort of threats as it gets:
>>
>> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
>
> So called "stealth" is nothing but snake oil, and Gibson is a fraud.

Yes, you could call successfully selling snake oil "to be on the up
and up"... It's still snake oil, so what's your point?

> There's HOARDS of script kiddies and their zombie machines out there, right
> this moment, spewing random packets out across the net looking for the
> "black holes" Gibson's idiocy creates. When a packet simply "disappears" as
> per Gibson's flapdoodle, they know for a fact the person on the other end
> is clueless, and most likely doesn't have a secure system.

All of which I have said several times in this thread, you gloriously
disingenuous *******.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:17:15 -0500, katio wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 12:48:19 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>
>>> Hide the IP, then you're not exposed to internet threats of any types
>>> you can imagine...
>>>
>>> I assumed as GEEKS when I talked about this post everyone had a
>>> clue...
>>>
>>> As Geeks you should know that if you want to get hacked you expose
>>> your IP and Ports...,
>>>
>>> That's all there is to it...when it comes to loosing your privacy and
>>> anonymity and that's the LEVEL I was coming from...
>>>
>>> Protecting that privacy and anonymity, PROTECTING THAT IP...!
>>>
>>> HIDE THE IP, PROTECT THE PORTS!
>>
>> Sorry to say this but you got it wrong. That's absolutely not how it
>> works.
>>
>> As long as you don't have an IPv6 address there is no point in hiding
>> one's IP. There's only a limited pool of public IPv4 addresses and
>> they are constantly hammered by automated attacks, all of them. Even
>> if that wasn't the case you most likely got a dynamic IP and whoever
>> had this IP assigned to before probably didn't use a VPN...
>>
>> Don't keep any services running facing the internet. If you do make
>> sure you use a strong MAC system, up to date software and preferably
>> white list allowed IPs. There really isn't much to worry with the
>> default home setup these days. OSs got good firewall rules ootb and
>> pretty much everyone uses a router with NAT.
>>
>> If you come out stealth here with your home IP you are as secure
>> against these sort of threats as it gets:
>>
>> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
>>
>> It's different with targeted attacks but I don't think that's part of
>> your threat model. If you have one other than "all them out thar", you
>> stupid git.
>
> No I don't have it wrong...

Sure you do...

>
> Most ISPs where I live do not hand out static IPs for Broadband, of
> course they are dynamic, BUT those Dynamic IPs stay with you for 30-45
> days...or LIFE...

So what? Having a more or less static IP address is a GOOD thing if you're
smart. Saves you from having to deal with the aftermath of the previous
owner and his P2P antics or soch.

> With your IP out there and a cheapy firewall, you can be owned...

The best firewall in the world is free. And even lesser firewalls are
perfectly capable of spitting back "unreachable" packets in response to
anonymous requests. Just like boundary equipment does when the host being
probed actually DOESN'T exist.

Yes, Gibson's machine hiding snake oil is little more than security theater
designed to dupe the masses. Nonexistent machines don't eat packets,
something actually SAYS they're not there. So when packets magically
disappear it's a sure sign there's a machine at that IP address. And one
owned by a noob at that. :(

> There's a VERY BIG point to hiding your IP and not exposing it and I
> can't believe you don't think so...

I can't believe there's still people out there who are so willing to
swallow whatever bile a media whore like Gibson vomits up.

> How do you think people get hacked and what you don't think boxes
> don't get hacked anymore? Of course they do...

Actually, port hacking like you're describing accounts for almost ZERO
successful attacks. But don't let little things like facts bother you.

[...]

> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
> anymore...

It's fine, as software firewalls go. It's also completely unnecessary in
modern times with modern equipment. I don't think there's an off the shelf
router on the market that doesn't include a firewall these days. That and
NAT alone make your machine completely invisible to the outside.

>
> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
> it's not just as good as it gets...

Things like "stealth" aren't just not good enough, or "good as it gets",
they're worse than doing nothing in a lot of scenarios. And completely
meaningless in the rest.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:26:55 -0500, DasFox wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:25:29 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:22:41 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>
>>> Windows has a firewall and using it will make you stealth YET that is
>>> not as good as it gets...
>>>
>>> Maybe because you used the word HOME user you think that this makes it
>>> ok and it is good enough? Yes for a lot of average users that may be
>>> true, but in todays world with all the changes over the past 20 years
>>> I don't believe as a Tech that the Windows firewall is good enough
>>> anymore...
>>>
>>> Even for Grandma just surfing the web and emailing the grandchildern,
>>> her box can be hacked and used to commit crimes, so in that sense, no
>>> it's not just as good as it gets...
>>
>> Good enough against who? Who is your adversary? Which ver of Windoz,
>> which firewall, how is it configured? Take your dick out of your ear
>> unless you are trying to stir your brainz with it. lol
>
> Who says I don't understand that you hack a different OS in a
> different way...?
>
> You are certainly not gaining access to Unix like you would Windows
> and also all the different firewalls...,

Um.... sorry, wrong again. You're not doin so well today kiddo.

The simple truth of the matter is that Windows and *nix are pretty much
attacked and compromised the same way these days. Since the dawn of "cross
platform" development and things like web standards, the lines have been
blurring and the attacks more service or software specific. IOW, neither OS
is really attacked so much these days, as the software underneath it and
the messed up configurations of the admins above it are.

> What you think I'm CLUELESS here?"

Well, yeah... you've pretty much demonstrated that beyond any doubt. :)