Google's gonna hate this!

As we know Google has no data retention policy and they log all
searches along with your IP address.

Well not anymore.

http://www.g8g1e.com allows you to get your google search results
without google knowing, also when you click a link in the results the
destination site doesnt know who you are and neither does your ISP!

Try it out!

On Jan 6, 8:02 am, ghostwalker <m...@weblogica.co.uk> wrote:
> As we know Google has no data retention policy and they log all
> searches along with your IP address.
>
> Well not anymore.
>
> http://www.g8g1e.comallows you to get your google search results
> without google knowing, also when you click a link in the results the
> destination site doesnt know who you are and neither does your ISP!

1. This looks very much like a break of the terms of use of Google
services.

2. Why would I trust my some strange website which does not show any
contact details or similar? http://www.g8g1e.com/contact.php goes
nowhere?

3. Why would I trust some unknown company/person/service? They can log
all I search, all search results I click on, my IP address,
everything, too, except noone knows the company behind all that...
This service has now policies published.

3. The proxy is terribly slow.

4. The proxy does not work properly. I have just made a single
search, clicked on the first result and immediately my browser did
load some data from some other server except the proxy. A second test
with www.yahoo.com did the same. Unless it is a very simple web site
it seems as if the proxy is easily tricked. Thus "the destination site
doesnt know" is simply not true.

5. Everything is unencrypted. My ISP still knows which URLs I request
and which data I download even if it may be redirected through a
proxy.

6. You advertise it here and do not show your link to the service or
company running this service. You don't use your full name. Don't
reveal that you work for this company.

Sorry, but this service of yours is simply worse then Google in pretty
much any respect I could think of... My advise for anyone is
definitively NOT to use that service. Something with no policy at all
and so badly implemented that it does not fully on the very first two
test searches done can't be any good...

Gerald

ghostwalker <mark@weblogica.co.uk> writes:

> As we know Google has no data retention policy and they log all
> searches along with your IP address.
>
> Well not anymore.
>
> http://www.g8g1e.com allows you to get your google search results
> without google knowing, also when you click a link in the results the
> destination site doesnt know who you are and neither does your ISP!
>
> Try it out!

All the links on the cover page lead to `Not found'

Gerald Vogt <vogt@spamcop.net> writes:

> 2. Why would I trust my some strange website which does not show any
> contact details or similar? http://www.g8g1e.com/contact.php goes
> nowhere?

DNS is from China, and the WHOIS contact does not have valid information.


whois.domaintools.com says
Registrar History: 3 registrars with 2 drops.
IP History: 25 changes on 21 unique name servers over 4 years.
Whois History: 4 records have been archived since 2006-05-15.
Reverse IP: 918 other sites hosted on this server.

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On Jan 7, 6:15 am, Bruce Barnett
<spamhater133+U080106161...@grymoire.com> wrote:
> Gerald Vogt <v...@spamcop.net> writes:
> > 2. Why would I trust my some strange website which does not show any
> > contact details or similar?http://www.g8g1e.com/contact.phpgoes
> > nowhere?
>
> DNS is from China, and the WHOIS contact does not have valid information.

Where do you have that information from? I find this:

$ whois -h whois.tucows.com g8g1e.com
Registrant:
Weblogica Internet Hosting and Design
Leegomery
Telford, TF1 6QZ
GB

> whois.domaintools.com says
> Registrar History: 3 registrars with 2 drops.
> IP History: 25 changes on 21 unique name servers over 4 years.
> Whois History: 4 records have been archived since 2006-05-15.
> Reverse IP: 918 other sites hosted on this server.

Not on http://whois.domaintools.com/g8g1e.com

Gerald

In the referenced article, ghostwalker <mark@weblogica.co.uk> writes:
>As we know Google has no data retention policy and they log all
>searches along with your IP address.
>
>Well not anymore.

....

What does this do that the scroogle scraper:

http://www.scroogle.org/

or more generally the Tor project:

https://www.torproject.org/

can't do?
--
Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK
D.H.Davis@bath.ac.uk

I agree that we shouldn't trust proxies too much, but it's also true
about scroogle, isn't? Therefore I suggest using obfuscation tools to
protect your searches like TrackMeNot (http://mrl.nyu.edu/~dhowe/
trackmenot/) or SquiggleSR (that I'm developing: http://squigglesr.free.fr
). These Firefox extensions automatically generate queries to search
engines to confuse search engines data-mining algorithms.
Since these programs are open source, you can trust them: TrackMeNot
is under Creative commons and SquiggleSR is under GPL. In fact these
tools address most problems mentioned by Gerald, excepting problem
number one since Google policy is not the same in every country.
I know that obfuscation may not appear as safe as anonymity, but it
has some advantages:
*Proxies are not compliant with personalized searches.
*Proxies are useless when the ISP itself records the traffic and
they'll certainly be useless to bypass Android. Some could argue that
traffic encryption can be used, but it's not that easy for most people
to encrypt traffic.
*ƒnAnonymisation is not adapted for every situation. For instance, in
the GReader case, anonymisation would have been a non-sense while
obfuscation could have been useful. Many users want to keep access to
online services and do not want to be anonymous. "privacy no longer
can mean anonymity".
Furthermore I took most critics into account in the development of
SquiggleSR (notice that TrackMeNot has been updated also).

SquiggleSR remains under development, I'll appreciate any comments.


Vince