MS WORD launches slowly due to IE local security setting

When I launch MICROSOFT WORD I see from Reg Mon (by System Internals)
that WOERD will not launch quickly because it is spending tens of
seconds looping through the registry checking the following key and its
associated subkeys:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet
Settings\Zones

There is an article by Miscosoft called:
"How to strengthen the security settings for the Local Machine zone in
Internet Explorer"
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833633>.

This article suggests that the reg key I give above is for local user
security settings.

Does this mean I can delete this reg key and let security defualt to the
machine settings?

I am hoping that WORD will then not get stuck on the looping that I see.

Zak wrote:
> When I launch MICROSOFT WORD I see from Reg Mon (by System Internals)
> that WOERD will not launch quickly because it is spending tens of
> seconds looping through the registry checking the following key and its
> associated subkeys:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet
> Settings\Zones
[rest snipped]

Word has no business looking at Internet settings -- it is supposed to
be a word processor. I guess this is the typical thing you will see
though with MS products always getting linked one way or another to MSIE
even if it's absolutely unneeded and unwanted.

I suggest you take a look at another word processor that doesn't try to
use an internet browser back-end (for whatever reason). A good
alternative is OpenOffice; it's free and can read/write MS word files if
needed.
I also suggest strongly that you get a firewall installed, and in it,
block MSIE from accessing the Internet (and through it, programs that
use it as a backdoor out to bypass firewalls), and install a different
browser for your surfing needs. I have done this a long time ago myself
without any negative side effects.


MC

Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:

> MC wrote:
>
>> I also suggest strongly that you get a firewall installed, and in it,
>> block MSIE from accessing the Internet
>
> Firewalls can't filter by applications.

Huh? My Windows personal software firewall asks me every time I start
Internet Explorer whether or not I want to give it access to the web.
It's Kerio, if you need to know. (IE is not my default browser, and I
only use it to test web pages.)

>> (and through it, programs that use it as a backdoor out to bypass
>> firewalls)
>
> Thanks for cluttering my list of most stupid ideas.
>
>> and install a different browser for your surfing needs.
>
> Huh? You always need a webbrowser to surf, and as Windows doesn't
> include any, you always have to install one.

Every Windows version since .. um .. W98? has had IE embedded in it.
Where are you buying *your* Windows?

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>> Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>>
>>> MC wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also suggest strongly that you get a firewall installed, and in it,
>>>> block MSIE from accessing the Internet
>>>
>>> Firewalls can't filter by applications.
>>
>> Huh? My Windows personal software firewall asks me every time I start
>> Internet Explorer whether or not I want to give it access to the web.
>> It's Kerio, if you need to know. (IE is not my default browser, and I
>> only use it to test web pages.)
>
> That's not a firewall, that's a host-based packet filter. And a pretty
> lousy one.

I don't worry about that; there is a router in front of it. However, it
does do the job I require of it.

> And the application control is, of course, useless against
> malicious software.

Yeah, I know all the stories.

> You're just wasting your time with explicitly allowing
> stuff that is legitimate anyway.

...and when said legitimate stuff can be fired off by illegitimate stuff?

>>> Huh? You always need a webbrowser to surf, and as Windows doesn't
>>> include any, you always have to install one.
>>
>> Every Windows version since .. um .. W98? has had IE embedded in it.
>> Where are you buying *your* Windows?
>
> IE is no webbrowser. Read the documentation!

Ok, it's an operating system component. There is no point in arguing
semantics.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

On 03 Nov 2006, Sebastian Gottschalk <seppi@seppig.de> wrote:

> MC wrote:
>
>> Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>>>> I also suggest strongly that you get a firewall installed, and
>>>> in it, block MSIE from accessing the Internet
>>> Firewalls can't filter by applications.
>>
>> Well, sorry, but they can, and have been able to for quite a
>> number of years. If you have one that can't I suggest you look for
>> a different (software) firewall.
>
> You're still talking about host-based packet filters with
> application control as it they were real firewalls. Could we please
> stick to more common and reasonable definitions?
>
>>>> (and through it, programs that use it as a backdoor out to
>>>> bypass firewalls)
>>> Thanks for cluttering my list of most stupid ideas.
>> May I remind you that this is an open newsgroup and not "your"
>> list? Thank you.
>
> Guess you misunderstood. My personal list of stupid ideas is
> cluttered by constant updates due to many strange people proposing
> such very stupid ideas like yours.

Seb, I'm new to your view on firewalls but you seem to have in mind a
rather different thing than what many people would call a software
fireall on their PCs.

Can you say a bit more about what sort of preferred solution I could use
which is as economical as possible. (I can't afford lots of sexy super-
specification hardware if there is a cheaper and effective equivalent).



>
>>>> and install a different browser for your surfing needs.
> ^^^^^^^ ^^^^
>>> Huh? You always need a webbrowser to surf, and as Windows doesn't
>>> include
> ^^^^^^^^^^
>>> any, you always have to install one.
>> Windows has included a browser as part of their installation for a
>> very,
> ^^^^^^^
>> very long time. Usually called "iexplore". Try it :P
>
> Will you please notice the difference between a general browser
> (for browsing resources of some kind, f.e. filesystems) and a
> webbrowser (a browser suitable for surfing the WWW)?