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			<title>USB vs. PS/2</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 05:52:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Paul wrote: 
> Dishum wrote: 
>> philo wrote: 
>>> On 05/15/2012 12:52 AM, Dishum wrote: 
>>>> I've heard of people having problems with a USB keyboard 
>>>> because 
>>>> it's doesn't work until the OS has loaded the driver, being 
>>>> unable to go into BIOS or use the boot option hotkey, or...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Paul wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; Dishum wrote:<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; philo wrote:<font color="darkred"><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 05/15/2012 12:52 AM, Dishum wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I've heard of people having problems with a USB keyboard<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; because<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it's doesn't work until the OS has loaded the driver, being<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; unable to go into BIOS or use the boot option hotkey, or<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; press<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; F1<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; when a fault occurs in POST. It just occurred to me that<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I've<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; never used a USB keyboard and I don't have one with me to<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; try<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; out.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A quick search seems to indicate that the problem occurs<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; some motherboards but not with others. I've also observed<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mice<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; behave smoothly into a PS/2 port and erratically with USB.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; trend is apparently towards USB for both keyboards and mice<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; many new mobos come with only one PS/2 port. I even saw<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; someone<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in a forum declare that &quot;PS/2 needs to die&quot;.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Can anyone please clarify the situation and explain why PS/2<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; is<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; falling out of favour?<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Never saw the sense of USB keyboards or mice<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; The only time I use them is if there are no ps/2 ports on the<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; machine... or possibly to save a machine with a broken ps/2<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; port</font><br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Same here. When I said that I've never used a USB keyboard, I<br />
&gt;&gt; meant for regular use. I use USB keyboards and mice for<br />
&gt;&gt; exactly<br />
&gt;&gt; the same reasons as yours and such times are only when I work<br />
&gt;&gt; on<br />
&gt;&gt; and with other people's computers.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; PS/2 for that purpose, is a superior solution, for the<br />
&gt; reasons mentioned. The OS always seems to recognize it (unless<br />
&gt; the PS/2 port is blown out, by hot-plugging it, and you don't<br />
&gt; get too many reports of that type). It just seems to work. And<br />
&gt; because it's interrupt driven, the response is instantaneous.<br />
&gt; With<br />
&gt; USB, the USB bus uses a polling method, to determine if devices<br />
&gt; have<br />
&gt; info to offer, and if the polling process is delayed for any<br />
&gt; reason,<br />
&gt; then so is your input delayed. Perhaps the addition of a new<br />
&gt; USB<br />
&gt; device (just plugged in), can affect the keyboard/mouse USB<br />
&gt; response<br />
&gt; slightly.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The reason Intel is on such a mission, to remove PS/2, is so<br />
&gt; the<br />
&gt; SuperI/O chip can be completely removed from motherboard<br />
&gt; designs.<br />
&gt; At the moment, perhaps the hardware monitor function is all<br />
&gt; that<br />
&gt; remains of it (once floppy, parallel port, serial ports,<br />
&gt; CIR/SIR,<br />
&gt; PS/2 are removed). The only bit Intel is missing, is ADC<br />
&gt; converters<br />
&gt; capable of measuring power supply voltages (which as of today,<br />
&gt; would still be an accessory function available on about half<br />
&gt; the<br />
&gt; SuperI/O chips). And perhaps Intel doesn't think that function<br />
&gt; is<br />
&gt; worth having, or perhaps Intel doesn't even recognize that as<br />
&gt; an<br />
&gt; &quot;official&quot; chipset function as such.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Once the legacy interfaces are removed, and all the third-party<br />
&gt; chipsets are removed from competing with Intel (by lacking a<br />
&gt; license for the bus interface), then Intel provides all the<br />
&gt; &quot;intelligent&quot; functions. The only things left on the<br />
&gt; motherboard<br />
&gt; are peripheral chips (NIC, HDAudio chip, Firewire chip), or<br />
&gt; regulator chips (VCore, VDimm regulators). It would mean, for<br />
&gt; each motherboard sold, Intel makes the maximum profit from it.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; With the recent removal of PCI bus from the motherboard, for<br />
&gt; a few years there will be motherboards with a PCI Express to<br />
&gt; PCI<br />
&gt; bridge. But eventually that will disappear from all boards as<br />
&gt; well.<br />
&gt; I think Z77 may be the beginning of chipsets for desktop,<br />
&gt; without<br />
&gt; a PCI bus being available natively. The interface solutions<br />
&gt; then<br />
&gt; are PCI Express and USB2/3, for virtually everything. Which<br />
&gt; means<br />
&gt; every time you need a legacy solution (such as when I needed a<br />
&gt; serial port for a dialup modem), it's a trip to the computer<br />
&gt; store<br />
&gt; and forking out $29.95. Same thing happened when I needed a<br />
&gt; parallel<br />
&gt; port to run a hardware programming dongle - another trip to the<br />
&gt; store, and fork out more money, for a PCI Express to parallel<br />
&gt; port<br />
&gt; card. Interfaces are *so* much cheaper, when they're bundled<br />
&gt; with the<br />
&gt; motherboard.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;   Paul</font><br />
<br />
Thanks. I had a sneaking suspicion that it was something along<br />
the lines of what you said, except that I didn't know about<br />
Intel's scheme to eliminate competing standards. The issue has<br />
been muddled by some people who voice the opinion, implied or<br />
expressed, that USB is superior to PS/2.<br />
<br />
<br />
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			<title>How to clean Acer netbook screen, two opinions.</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:08:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in 
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> How to clean Acer netbook screen, two opinions. 
> 
> How do I clean my Acer netbook screen? 
> 
> One source says to use a 50/50 solution of alcohol and water on an 
> Acer Aspire laptop. 
>...]]></description>
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<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; How to clean Acer netbook screen, two opinions.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; How do I clean my Acer netbook screen?<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; One source says to use a 50/50 solution of alcohol and water on an<br />
&gt; Acer Aspire laptop.<br />
&gt; <a href="http://techtips.salon.com/clean-acer-aspire-laptop-63.html" target="_blank">http://techtips.salon.com/clean-acer...laptop-63.html</a><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; And the other source (both of them near the top of google search),<br />
&gt; Netbook Review, says in general not to use alcohol at all, just<br />
&gt; distilled water with vinegar. (Isn't that Windex?)  or just plain tap<br />
&gt; water.<br />
&gt; <a href="http://netbookreview.com/netbook-cleaning-tips/" target="_blank">http://netbookreview.com/netbook-cleaning-tips/</a><br />
&gt; So far, I've tried spit, and it doesn't work well on fingerprints or<br />
&gt; spots  (I'm borowing the netbook from a friend, and this is the first<br />
&gt; time he's gotten the screen dirty.  Since he's nice enough to lend it,<br />
&gt; I think I should clean it.)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Thanks.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Details:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The first url:<br />
&gt; &quot;*Items you will need<br />
&gt;     Lint-free cloths...<br />
&gt;     Solution of equal parts rubbing alcohol and distilled water&quot;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The second url:<br />
&gt; &quot;Screen<br />
&gt; Don’t use anything with alcohol, ammonia, or solvents. Distilled water<br />
&gt; is recommended along with vinegar, else a damp cloth wrung of all<br />
&gt; water (non-distilled) should suffice. For the extra conscientious, two<br />
&gt; products which we recommend are Monster Alcohol Free Cleaner($15) and<br />
&gt; Speck CrispView Screen Cleaner($9.95).<br />
&gt; Process<br />
&gt;     Turn off netbook<br />
&gt;     Moisten a cloth/rag with the solution/water, making sure to wring<br />
&gt; extra liquid out.<br />
&gt;     Wipe across the face of the screen gently.<br />
&gt; The liquid should not be sprayed directly onto the screen.&quot;</font><br />
<br />
I've got some stuff named &quot;ULTRA&quot; that I honestly can't remember buying.<br />
It is hard to read the print on the bottle information so I laid it on<br />
the rug and took a picture of it.<br />
<br />
Then I looked it up and found it as an item at TigerDirect.com<br />
<a href="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?" target="_blank">http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...m-details.asp?</a><br />
EdpNo=4256349&amp;CatId=4204<br />
or<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yjfkmfc" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yjfkmfc</a><br />
I have used it a few times and am impressed. The reviews on TigerDirect<br />
are generally good.<br />
The bottles are different (<a href="http://mewnlite.com/ultra.jpg" target="_blank">http://mewnlite.com/ultra.jpg</a>) but the<br />
instructions are identical.<br />
It comes with one of those silky looking cleaning cloths.<br />
<br />
Other than &quot;ULTRA&quot; there is no company name or reference. That in itself<br />
is enough to make one a little leary. Like who do you sue? :-)<br />
<br />
Like Paul said, it's probably not a good idea to use it on someone else's<br />
screen. I've only done that once but that one was so bad that nothing<br />
could have made it any worse. Actually it worked great on that one.<br />
<br />
For what it's worth, the solution is clear. The bottle is colored.<br />
<br />
--<br />
-- I'm out of white ink --<br />
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			<title>Fat sheboon caged for throwing pitbull from balcony</title>
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There was nothing funny about the cruelty inflicted on one stray Pit 
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accused of felony animal cruelty, was laughing. 
 
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<br />
There was nothing funny about the cruelty inflicted on one stray Pit<br />
bull puppy Monday morning, but Jamille Marshall, the 22-year-old woman<br />
accused of felony animal cruelty, was laughing.<br />
<br />
According to the Chicago Tribune, Marshall hurled the puppy from her<br />
third story balcony, breaking its front leg.<br />
<br />
But the East Garfield Park, Ill. woman did not seem overly concerned<br />
about her heartless actions. One responding Chicago police officer<br />
quoted her as saying,<br />
<br />
&quot;The Chicago Police Department must have better things to do than<br />
worry about a dog,’’<br />
<br />
According to the responding officers, Marshall was laughing as she was<br />
handcuffed outside of her West Monroe Street home.<br />
<br />
The woman attempted to justify her cruel actions by telling the<br />
authorities that she and a friend discovered the puppy on the balcony<br />
and because it was not theirs, they &quot;didn't want it&quot;.<br />
Advertisement<br />
<br />
Apparently contacting animal control did not occur to them.<br />
<br />
Thankfully the puppy, who was taken to Animal Care and Control for<br />
treatment, is expected to recover.<br />
<br />
Something good did come out of this otherwise disturbing incident - one<br />
of the responding police officers intends to adopt the injured puppy.<br />
<br />
Marshall is expected in court on Thursday to face her felony aggravated<br />
animal cruelty charge.<br />
<br />
Read more here.<br />
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			<title>Desktop With Two Hard Drives</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 19:57:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[tb wrote: 
> I am not much of a hardware expert... 
> 
> I have a desktop with an Intel DQ965GF motherboard.  Right now, Ubuntu 
> 11.10 is installed on its hard drive. 
> 
> The desktop has one SATA hard drive installed.  I have this old IDE 
> hard drive that I would like to install too and maybe...]]></description>
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&gt; I am not much of a hardware expert...<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I have a desktop with an Intel DQ965GF motherboard.  Right now, Ubuntu<br />
&gt; 11.10 is installed on its hard drive.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The desktop has one SATA hard drive installed.  I have this old IDE<br />
&gt; hard drive that I would like to install too and maybe put another Linux<br />
&gt; distribution on it.  Therefore the desktop would be dual-booting and<br />
&gt; have two hard drives:  one (the primary one) with SATA interface and<br />
&gt; the other one with IDE.  (The desktop has both SATA and IDE headers on<br />
&gt; the motherboard.)  GRUB2 will be installed on the SATA drive.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Question 1:  Is it possible to have two hard drives with different data<br />
&gt; architectures installed on the same motherboard?  Any drawbacks?<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Question 2:  How does the system know that the SATA hard drive is the<br />
&gt; one to boot from?  SATA drives do not have master/slave jumpers.  Is<br />
&gt; there some sort of flag in the BIOS or the two disks' MBR that signals<br />
&gt; which hard drive is the one to boot from after POST?<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Just curious...<br />
&gt;</font><br />
<br />
Each drive is handled independently.<br />
<br />
A lot of the motherboard BIOS I have here, work at two levels<br />
when specifying devices. The top level might be<br />
<br />
Floppy<br />
CDROM<br />
Hard Drive<br />
Net Boot (or other alternative method)<br />
<br />
Then, within the Hard Drive area, there is a separate control,<br />
that puts the drives in order<br />
<br />
HDD3<br />
HDD1<br />
HDD2<br />
<br />
If HDD3 didn't have an MBR with valid signature, then the BIOS might<br />
be able to skip to the next one in the list. And if none were valid,<br />
perhaps it would &quot;fall through&quot; the Hard Drive entry, and you'd see<br />
a PXE netboot status message (spinning cursor).<br />
<br />
And all of that is happening at the BIOS level.<br />
<br />
*******<br />
<br />
If your motherboard is modern enough, it may support a &quot;popup boot<br />
menu&quot;. That is an option, that doesn't require &quot;entering&quot; the BIOS,<br />
and allows a temporary boot selection to be made. It looks like<br />
a tiny boot manager. I use that here, when booting from hard<br />
drives, as it saves having to enter the BIOS, and do a<br />
&quot;Save and Exit&quot; to select another disk. On one motherboard,<br />
I press F8 to trigger that. On another motherboard, the<br />
key is F11. Check the first screen full of text in the BIOS,<br />
and look at the bottom line of the screen, to see hints as<br />
to what keys control these functions. (For example, my current<br />
motherboard would say &quot;Press DEL to enter BIOS, or F8 for Popup Boot&quot;.<br />
Something along those lines, with a couple defined key presses.)<br />
<br />
If your motherboard is set to &quot;Full Screen Logo&quot; mode, and<br />
only a cartoon graphic is present during POST, then the<br />
very first thing you do is enter the BIOS and disable it. And<br />
then you can see all the text I'm referring to. (Once &quot;Full Screen<br />
Logo&quot; is disabled, the POST process will show all its text messages.)<br />
<br />
Paul<br />
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			<title>Strange RAM Behaviour</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 10:17:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["Paul" wrote 
 
> TheScullster wrote: 
>> Hi all 
>> 
>> Recently bought 3 x DT790 Dell desktops, one of which suffered "Windows 
>> Shut 
>> Down Unexpectedly and Needs to Recover" type errors and also, Kernel 
>> Power 
>> event id 41 issues.  After swapping components around with the other]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&quot;Paul&quot; wrote<br />
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&gt; TheScullster wrote:<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; Hi all<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Recently bought 3 x DT790 Dell desktops, one of which suffered &quot;Windows<br />
&gt;&gt; Shut<br />
&gt;&gt; Down Unexpectedly and Needs to Recover&quot; type errors and also, Kernel<br />
&gt;&gt; Power<br />
&gt;&gt; event id 41 issues.  After swapping components around with the other<br />
&gt;&gt; 790s,<br />
&gt;&gt; the problem was seen to follow the RAM.  So Dell are sending out<br />
&gt;&gt; replacements.  Dell's supplied diagnostic showed no hardware issues at<br />
&gt;&gt; all.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; OK so this failure in itself is not so surprising.  The part of this<br />
&gt;&gt; situation that I find strange, is that the erratic behaviour occurs<br />
&gt;&gt; almost<br />
&gt;&gt; exclusively overnight.  Between 21:45 yesterday and 08:18 today, there<br />
&gt;&gt; were<br />
&gt;&gt; 44 errors reported, with the last one (at least) resulting in a machine<br />
&gt;&gt; restart which I witnessed as I arrived at my desk.  The longest time<br />
&gt;&gt; period<br />
&gt;&gt; between errors was approx 1 hour and the shortest just a few minutes.<br />
&gt;&gt; The<br />
&gt;&gt; PC has been up for three hours now with no errors reported.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Now I know from server UPS data, that our building is subject to<br />
&gt;&gt; over-voltage on supply during the night.  Is this likely to give rise to<br />
&gt;&gt; this erratic behaviour?  When testing the problem PC, the other 790s were<br />
&gt;&gt; also left on over night and these reported no errors (the desktops do not<br />
&gt;&gt; have UPS on supply).<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Comments appreciated.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Phil</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; You'd look at the UPS make and model number, and look up the specs.<br />
&gt; Chances are, it conditions the line, and adjusts the output voltage<br />
&gt; such that the ATX supply doesn't see anything. (There are at least<br />
&gt; five different architectures of UPS design, so YMMV.)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; And the ATX supply has its own resiliency. An ATX supply can operate<br />
&gt; down to around 90V. And the ATX supply has hold-up time, provided<br />
&gt; by the main capacitor inside the supply. When a PC is idling, this<br />
&gt; hold-up time can be significant (up to around a second or so). You'd<br />
&gt; practically have to kill incoming AC to the UPS, and wait for the<br />
&gt; UPS battery to drain, before that desktop PC would notice.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; That's a guess.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; *******<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2028504" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2028504</a><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;   &quot;Description of Windows Kernel event ID 41 error in Windows 7<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;    The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first&quot;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Once you get the new RAM, try running Prime95 &quot;torture test&quot; for<br />
&gt; four hours, and see if no errors are detected. You should really<br />
&gt; do &quot;acceptance testing&quot; on new PCs, because the factory testing<br />
&gt; can amount to a 2 minute run. Dell would rely on the RAM manufacturer<br />
&gt; to test the RAM, before it's assembled. And we all know how<br />
&gt; the RAM manufacturer makes money - by reducing test time. That<br />
&gt; means the &quot;consumer is the tester&quot;. Prime95 is a good acceptance<br />
&gt; test, and will give some idea whether the PC is ready to deploy.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/" target="_blank">http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/</a><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;   <a href="ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v266.zip" target="_blank">ftp://mersenne.org/gimps/p95v266.zip</a><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;   Extract file (no install needed). Keep the files in a separate<br />
&gt;   directory. Double click &quot;prime95.exe&quot;. In &quot;Welcome to GIMPS&quot;<br />
&gt;   dialog box, click &quot;Just Scress Testing&quot;. In &quot;Run a Torture Test&quot;<br />
&gt;   dialog box, &quot;Blend&quot; is good for a start. If you used the 64 bit<br />
&gt;   version, it's possible using &quot;Custom&quot;, you could select a larger<br />
&gt;   memory test size. On the 32 bit version, you may be limited to<br />
&gt;   around 1600MB. In any case, start with &quot;Blend&quot; and open Task Manager<br />
&gt;   after it starts running, to see what resources it is using.<br />
&gt;   When the four hours is up, if all icons are still &quot;green&quot;, select<br />
&gt;   &quot;Stop&quot; and then select &quot;Exit&quot; from the menu. The program should<br />
&gt;   then be gone.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; It is even possible to run multiple copies of Prime95. Create a<br />
&gt; separate folder for each copy. Copy the prime95.exe file into<br />
&gt; each separate folder. Start the program as above, and select<br />
&gt; custom and set the number of test threads and memory test size.<br />
&gt; By doing it that way, you could test more of system memory,<br />
&gt; by using say four copies testing 1600MB each. You'd run fewer<br />
&gt; test threads on each copy, to spread the load.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Note that the stress from this test, is too much for older OSes.<br />
&gt; Before the computer runs out of resources, instances of the program<br />
&gt; may die. Instances may die even before the system runs out of RAM.<br />
&gt; I was quite surprised by that. It's only an issue, from a test case<br />
&gt; design point of view (i.e. wanting reproducible behavior for the<br />
&gt; test). I've only got one copy of Windows 7 here, and wouldn't<br />
&gt; expect the same problem with that.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Still, Prime95 is a great shakeout test for a new PC, and you'll<br />
&gt; get a test of its cooling system, as well as RAM and CPU. The<br />
&gt; testing icons in Prime95 should stay &quot;green&quot;. If a test thread<br />
&gt; stops, you could have bad RAM or a bad CPU. Or in the case<br />
&gt; of an enthusiast retail motherboard, something needs to be<br />
&gt; adjusted for stability (like bumping Vdimm perhaps, or adjusting<br />
&gt; tCAS).<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;   Paul</font><br />
<br />
Wow thanks for comprehensive response Paul.<br />
I have new RAM installed - it has passed the Dell hardware diagnostic (just<br />
like the faulty sticks did!), but the Kernel Power errors have disappeared.<br />
<br />
So things are looking promising, but I'll download the Prime95 and give that<br />
a run out.<br />
<br />
Thanks again<br />
<br />
Phil<br />
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			<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 23:28:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[VanguardLH wrote: 
> Paul wrote: 
> 
>> Retired wrote: 
>> 
>>> VanguardLH wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> Retired wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm looking at an ASUS CM6870-US-3AA from Tiger Direct. I need to]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->VanguardLH wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; Paul wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; Retired wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<font color="darkred"><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; VanguardLH wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Retired wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm looking at an ASUS CM6870-US-3AA from Tiger Direct. I need to<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; know what card slots are available.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The Tiger Direct URL is: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/76eu6kj" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/76eu6kj</a><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; All I want to know is if there is a *&amp;$%#! PCI slot in it!<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Since they are selling on specs, they are not obligated to include<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; more hardware that would dimish their profit margin.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks for your detailed answer. I am just going to assume that it<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; doesn't have a PCI slot.</font><br />
&gt;&gt; You can get PCI Express cards with USB2. Or PCI Express cards with<br />
&gt;&gt; USB3.</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; As long as the 3 card blanks on the backside as shown in Asus' product<br />
&gt; pics aren't just holes in the case but one (up to 3) of them actually<br />
&gt; has matching slots in the mobo behind those blanks AND they're unused.</font><br />
<br />
But the reviewers identified that of the four slots, the<br />
shipped systems had two cards present. A video card and<br />
a Wifi card. One reviewer commented that the Wifi<br />
could have been a USB based chip, and hung off a USB<br />
interface from the chipset, and that would have freed up<br />
another slot. And that reviewer is right, in that cheesy<br />
Wifi is perfectly happy on a USB2 port.<br />
<br />
So as shipped, there are two PCI Express x1 slots empty. Perhaps<br />
arranged that way, for slightly better video card cooling. The video<br />
cards Asus is providing, aren't high end cards, and they're probably<br />
not scorchers in any case.<br />
<br />
Paul<br />
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			<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 17:15:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On May 15, 8:48*pm, Bob <RBF1147...@YAH0O.COM> wrote: 
> On 5/14/2012 20:40, trad...@optonline.net wrote: 
> 
> > ... *I'm not sure 
> > there isn't a stove somewhere with a stovetop heating element 
> > that runs off 120V. *But I haven't seen one. *They've had 
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&gt; On 5/14/2012 20:40, trad...@optonline.net wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; ... *I'm not sure<br />
&gt; &gt; there isn't a stove somewhere with a stovetop heating element<br />
&gt; &gt; that runs off 120V. *But I haven't seen one. *They've had<br />
&gt; &gt; 240V heating elements. *I'd like to see a schematic for<br />
&gt; &gt; one of these 120V element stoves. *Shouldn't be hard to<br />
&gt; &gt; do if they are out there and common.</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Prior to the modern cooktops with infinite heat levels accomplished by<br />
&gt; time cycling power to the coils, variable heat levels were accomplished<br />
&gt; by powering coils at 120 or 240 volts. *The GE 5-speed scheme used two<br />
&gt; coils on each unit powered as follows:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Hi - both elements 240v parallel<br />
&gt; 2 *- one element 240v<br />
&gt; 3 *- both elements 240v series<br />
&gt; Lo - one element 120v<br />
&gt; Wm - both elements 120v series<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; --</font><br />
<br />
That's interesting.  Out of curiousity, how long ago are<br />
you talking about?   It seems to me the method of<br />
using a simple switch that cycles the power on and off<br />
to control the amount of heat has been around since<br />
at least the 60s, no?<br />
<br />
And the GE method still has the range using both<br />
240V and 120V to heat.  The two assertions being<br />
made that I disagreed with were that<br />
all ovens use 120V elements and stovetops use<br />
120V elements.<br />
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			<title>Looking for A particular type of Video card</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 12:45:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message 
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Well, I doubt anyone is going to worry too much about text -- the TV is an 
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Well, I doubt anyone is going to worry too much about text -- the TV is an<br />
old CRT type 32 inch television, and I'm doing this just for those who might<br />
happen to be here and want to watch a movie with me, since I'm blind.<br />
But thanks for this, it should help a lot.<br />
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			<description><![CDATA["John McGaw" <Nobody@Nowh.ere> wrote in message 
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> On 5/4/2012 6:22 AM, Grumpy@Oldman.com wrote: 
>> Dumb question maybe.  I am fishing for explanation of what I see as 
>> slowness in my W7 64-bit.   Since my drive is IDE, I am wondering...]]></description>
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&gt; On 5/4/2012 6:22 AM, <a href="mailto:Grumpy@Oldman.com">Grumpy@Oldman.com</a> wrote:<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; Dumb question maybe.  I am fishing for explanation of what I see as<br />
&gt;&gt; slowness in my W7 64-bit.   Since my drive is IDE, I am wondering if<br />
&gt;&gt; it could be that IDE can't handle 64-bit processing and that I must go<br />
&gt;&gt; to SATA.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Anyone?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Grumpy</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Seems wildly unlikely. Have you run the built-in 'experience index' test?<br />
&gt; If so, does it say that the hard disk is to blame for your problems? This<br />
&gt; test isn't infallible or even very sophisticated but it might get you<br />
&gt; moving in the right direction.</font><br />
<br />
Also, if the above test gives a disk score of 5.9, your HD<br />
speed is nominal. Less than that will most likely be due<br />
to the lower transfer rates of the IDE interface. The 64 bit<br />
OS has no bearing on this. The maximum score a mechanical<br />
drive will receive is 5.9. For a greater score you will need an<br />
SSD. The max score with an SSD is 7.9.<br />
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			<title>Re: mouse scroller repair</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 14:21:59 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["B. P. TBC" <tbc_z87 mailbox.hu> wrote: 
 
> Hi all I have a mouse (A4tech X-710F), it works, but the 
> scroller works bad. (When I try to scroll, it trembles.) Can 
> anyone help me, how can I repair it? I tried to clean it, but it 
> still works bad. Thanks! 
 
If you do take the mouse apart......]]></description>
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&gt; Hi all I have a mouse (A4tech X-710F), it works, but the<br />
&gt; scroller works bad. (When I try to scroll, it trembles.) Can<br />
&gt; anyone help me, how can I repair it? I tried to clean it, but it<br />
&gt; still works bad. Thanks!</font><br />
<br />
If you do take the mouse apart... That probably would be a good<br />
application for compressed air from a can. I would avoid touching<br />
stuff inside the mouse.<br />
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			<title>How to unlock this ssd without paying much money?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:30:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:12:47 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: 
 
>Massimo wrote: 
> 
>> VanguardLH wrote: 
>>> <see prior post for my content> 
>> 
>> It would really be a pity if the ata password -I think that is the 
>> password i am speaking about- would tie the ssd to the mainboard it 
>>...]]></description>
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<font color="blue"><br />
&gt;Massimo wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; VanguardLH wrote:<font color="darkred"><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;see prior post for my content&gt;</font><br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; It would really be a pity if the ata password -I think that is the<br />
&gt;&gt; password i am speaking about- would tie the ssd to the mainboard it<br />
&gt;&gt; belonged too... for that mainboard has been thrown away because of not<br />
&gt;&gt; functioning properly. I bought a new board for him and the old board<br />
&gt;&gt; is not available any more.</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;That might be where you're stuck.  Since the device looks to be locked<br />
&gt;and asks for a password, it seems likely to be an ATA password issue.<br />
&gt;</font><br />
Hm. My friend seems to have kept the faulty mobo. Because I am a total<br />
fanatic as long as it's about computers, I maybe trying to use that<br />
old mobo in my oldest computer when I will be renewing its hardware in<br />
the future... just to have a final peek into its cmos for the<br />
ata-password option.<br />
<font color="blue"><font color="green"><font color="darkred"><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA#HDD_passwords_and_security" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralle...s_and_security</a><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Note this says you might get back the device by using the HDD's<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; firmware &quot;secure erase&quot; function.  This wipes the device.  One<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; secure erase program (that uses the disk's own secure erase command<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; in its firmware to wipe itself, not some program you run under an<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; OS) is:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDDerase" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDDerase</a><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<a href="http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml" target="_blank">http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml</a><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;</font><br />
&gt;&gt; HDDErase...I will not use after having read about experiences of other<br />
&gt;&gt; people with it. ;-)</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;Haven't needed to use it (yet).  That's the program that I remember uses<br />
&gt;the HDD's own firmware to run its secure erase command.  There are<br />
&gt;probably other such utilities but remember that the erasing is being<br />
&gt;performed by the HDD, not by the software that called the command that<br />
&gt;the HDD executes.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;I see users in hddguru.com forums talking about removing the passwords,<br />
&gt;like <a href="http://forum.hddguru.com/ata-password-bypassing-t12257-20.html" target="_blank">http://forum.hddguru.com/ata-passwor...t12257-20.html</a>, and<br />
&gt;doing a secure erase to make the device operational again in a new<br />
&gt;system.  They mention the MHDD utility but I've never used it.  It's<br />
&gt;listed at <a href="http://hddguru.com/software/" target="_blank">http://hddguru.com/software/</a>.</font><br />
<br />
I looked at the MHDD software but in the documentation is repeated the<br />
fact that you have to know the password in order to remove it.<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt;The suggestion is NOT to attach<br />
&gt;the HDD via USB or other removable-media interface but have it connected<br />
&gt;to an IDE or SATA controller on the mobo.  It has security commands for<br />
&gt;unlocking and removing the password but says you need the password:</font><br />
<br />
Exactly.<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt;<a href="http://hddguru.com/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/mhdd_manual.en.html#password" target="_blank">http://hddguru.com/software/2005.10.....html#password</a>.<br />
&gt;Well, if you never entered a password, maybe just hitting enter to<br />
&gt;specify a null string will work.<br />
&gt;</font><br />
Hm. I tried that with the Intel Storage Manager program and it did not<br />
work. I have tried NULL, idrive, [ENTER] and others.<br />
<br />
Well, thanks again for youw thoughtfull reactions. :-)<br />
<br />
Massimo<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt;As far as some users having bad experiences with utility-grade software<br />
&gt;or tools, well that abounds with whatever utility software you find,<br />
&gt;including:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;partition managers<br />
&gt;snapshot backup programs<br />
&gt;registry cleaners or tweakers<br />
&gt;defragmenters<br />
&gt;hardware drivers<br />
&gt;S.M.A.R.T. viewers<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;You can't stop users from using tools they don't understand.  If they<br />
&gt;can install it, suddenly they consider them an sysadmin.<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; The old motherboard was a Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 and I bought a<br />
&gt;&gt; Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 (AM3+ mobo) as a replacement.</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;As I recall from reading, the password is hashed to store on the HDD so<br />
&gt;it has to match the hashed password stored in the EEPROM for the BIOS on<br />
&gt;the mobo where you original defined the non-blank password.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;I think you're stuck with having to using HDD diagnostic software that<br />
&gt;workarounds the ATA password.  You might get lucky by trying to unlock<br />
&gt;the device in the BIOS.  Maybe by hitting Enter for the password (since<br />
&gt;you say no password was entered) would work.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;I find articles, like <a href="http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html" target="_blank">http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html</a>, but they always<br />
&gt;seems to be iffy in that they'll only work on a small subset of HDDs<br />
&gt;that the authors happens to experiment upon.</font><br />
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			<title>Need Laptop Hard Drive</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:23:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:16:21 -0500, edfair 
<edfair.5bw04k@no.email.invalid> wrote: 
 
> 
>You probably want to look inside to see what kind of connector, too. 
>Some do additional stuff to change how the drive connects. 
> 
For sure. 
 
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&gt;<br />
&gt;You probably want to look inside to see what kind of connector, too.<br />
&gt;Some do additional stuff to change how the drive connects.<br />
&gt;</font><br />
For sure.<br />
<br />
It looks to be IDE - certainly not SATA.  Two long rows of pins.<br />
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xiexie<br />
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wei<br />
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:54:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:25:47 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote: 
 
 
>Your usage of the word "bad" kinda threw me off. 
>As when Partition Magic *really* doesn't like your 
>disk, it errors out and you don't get to look at anything. 
>I've had that happen before. 
> 
>I thought perhaps you were...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:25:47 -0400, Paul &lt;nospam@needed.com&gt; wrote:<br />
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&gt;Your usage of the word &quot;bad&quot; kinda threw me off.<br />
&gt;As when Partition Magic *really* doesn't like your<br />
&gt;disk, it errors out and you don't get to look at anything.<br />
&gt;I've had that happen before.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;I thought perhaps you were seeing an error message<br />
&gt;I'd never seen before, that's all.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;   Paul</font><br />
<br />
The word 'bad' was in PM's hard drive display.  Big letters.  I saw<br />
the same flag for a Ubuntu-formatted drive the other day.  It wasn't<br />
my word.<br />
Thanks<br />
Big Fred  (:&lt;)<br />
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			<title>Does the AGP version of Nvidia 6200 have h.264 decoder?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:57:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[PC Guy wrote: 
> Paul wrote: 
> 
>>> I swapped an MX440 (64 mb) video card for an Evga GeForce 6200 
>>> (256 mb) video card because VLC can't really play large h.264 
>>> video files smoothly on my system. 
>>> 
>>> I updated VLC to the latest version (2.0.1 I think). 
> 
>>> VLC has a check-box...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->PC Guy wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; Paul wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><font color="darkred"><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; I swapped an MX440 (64 mb) video card for an Evga GeForce 6200<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; (256 mb) video card because VLC can't really play large h.264<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; video files smoothly on my system.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; I updated VLC to the latest version (2.0.1 I think).</font></font><br />
&gt;<font color="green"><font color="darkred"><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; VLC has a check-box to enable &quot;Accelerated video output (overlay)&quot;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; - and I have that checked.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; VLC also has (in the Input &amp; Codecs settings section) a check-box<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; for &quot;Use GPU accelerated decoding&quot; - but that option is greyed out.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Any idea why?</font><br />
&gt;&gt; Wouldn't this be a question for the VLC forum ?</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I have started a thread there.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I've messed with a bunch of VLC settings and have gotten the file in<br />
&gt; question to playback almost perfectly.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; What is apparent is that MANY people are seeing playback problems<br />
&gt; (stuttering video) with this new 2.0 version of VLC (and naturally they<br />
&gt; have more moderm CPU's and video cards, and are also running win-7).<br />
&gt; Some or many people are un-installing VLC version 2 and going back to<br />
&gt; version 1.</font><br />
<br />
I found an article here, on VLC. DXVA is mentioned in the article,<br />
which I believe means &quot;Use GPU accelerated decoding&quot; is using the<br />
video decoder block. The author of the article, uses a tool called<br />
DXVA_checker, but I didn't see a link to the tool while flipping<br />
through the article.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/show/3786/hd-video-decoding-on-gpus-with-vlc-110/4" target="_blank">http://www.anandtech.com/show/3786/h...with-vlc-110/4</a><br />
<br />
Paul<br />
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			<title>Aceess to Dead Laptop HD</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:55:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On 4/28/2012 3:55 PM, Jim T. wrote: 
> My wife's ten year old Dell laptop has quit.  I tried to attach 
> another monitor, but got nothing, so it's the video card and not 
> necessarily the screen. AFAIK the keyboard and mouse are OK. I can 
> access its hard disk on my network, but most of the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><!-- google_ad_section_start -->On 4/28/2012 3:55 PM, Jim T. wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; My wife's ten year old Dell laptop has quit.  I tried to attach<br />
&gt; another monitor, but got nothing, so it's the video card and not<br />
&gt; necessarily the screen. <acronym title="As far as I know">AFAIK</acronym> the keyboard and mouse are OK. I can<br />
&gt; access its hard disk on my network, but most of the files I want to<br />
&gt; copy are protected - I am &quot;denied access&quot;.  Is there a way I can get<br />
&gt; those from my desktop? I've bought a refurbed Lenovo from IBM, and it<br />
&gt; works great except the screen is a little small. BTW, I had<br />
&gt; administrator access on the laptop if I was logged on, but I assume<br />
&gt; that nobody's logged on!</font><br />
<br />
I would probably try pulling the HD from the laptop, and connecting it<br />
straight away to a PC with a USB adapter, like this:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232002" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812232002</a><br />
<br />
<br />
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