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			<title>Samsung Saga no data plan</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:09:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I do not currently have a data plan.  Can I get a Samsung Saga off of Ebay 
and use it with my current voice plan?  I would like to be able to use the 
WI-FI not the EV-DO for e-mail.  Anyone want to share experiences with 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I do not currently have a data plan.  Can I get a Samsung Saga off of Ebay<br />
and use it with my current voice plan?  I would like to be able to use the<br />
WI-FI not the EV-DO for e-mail.  Anyone want to share experiences with<br />
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			<dc:creator>Michael Hastings</dc:creator>
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			<title>Asus PDA Phone Model No: M530W</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:23:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Asus PDA Phone Model No: M530W Features: 
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•	Business Features: Clear View Document Viewer 
•	Bluetooth Presentor...]]></description>
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•	Built-in 256RMb Flash + 64MB SDRAM<br />
•	Business Features: Clear View Document Viewer<br />
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•	Expansion slot- Micro Sd (2G Compatible)<br />
•	UMTS 2100(3GPP Brand I)<br />
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<br />
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<a href="http://www.homeshop18.com/shop/u/y/c-Mobiles-Q-and-Q-Accessories-S-PDAs-Q-and-Q-Smartphones/Home_Online-clI_2-cI_943-pCI_910-" target="_blank">http://www.homeshop18.com/shop/u/y/c...I_943-pCI_910-</a><br />
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			<title>Buy Smart Phone 8502at lowest Price</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:12:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>A smart PDA mobile phone with 1.3 MP camera,Qwerty keyboard,Music 
player. 
 
 
 
 
Features 	Mega Pixel 	1.3 
Digital Zoom 	4x 
 
Digital Zoom Range 	2.5-6</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>A smart PDA mobile phone with 1.3 MP camera,Qwerty keyboard,Music<br />
player.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Features 	Mega Pixel 	1.3<br />
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<br />
Digital Zoom Range 	2.5-6<br />
Mega Pixel Range 	Less Than 2.0<br />
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Colour Options Available 	Colour Options 	Black<br />
<br />
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<br />
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<br />
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<br />
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<br />
Messages/ Emails 	Instant Messaging<br />
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<br />
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<br />
<br />
<br />
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<br />
Battery Features 	Standard Battery Type 	Lithium-Ion<br />
Standard Battery (mAh) 	1500mAh<br />
<br />
Display 	Display Type 	2.2 inch QVGA flat screen<br />
<br />
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Extendable Memory Type 	microSD<br />
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			<dc:creator>santosh.yadav255@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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			<title>droid and ringback tones</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:49:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[EARL, 11/19/2009,4:56:18 PM, wrote: 
 
Oh, I HATE those "Please listen to the music while your party is 
located." answers. 
 
 
> yes it is  ringtone is what you hear when phone rings . ringback is 
> what the person calling you hears instead of rings they hear music]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>EARL, 11/19/2009,4:56:18 PM, wrote:<br />
<br />
Oh, I HATE those &quot;Please listen to the music while your party is<br />
located.&quot; answers.<br />
<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; yes it is  ringtone is what you hear when phone rings . ringback is<br />
&gt; what the person calling you hears instead of rings they hear music</font><br />
<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; &quot;badgolferman&quot; &lt;REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com&gt; wrote in message<br />
&gt; news:xn0ghu5s0d983x004@reader.albasani.net...<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; EARL wrote:<br />
&gt; &gt;<font color="darkred"><br />
&gt; &gt; &gt; Has anyone had any problems with your ringback tones working<br />
&gt; &gt; &gt; properly with the droid ?</font><br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; Forgive my ignorance but is a &quot;ringback&quot; tone different than a<br />
&gt; &gt; &quot;ringtone&quot;?<br />
&gt; &gt;</font></font><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
--<br />
&quot;Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere,<br />
diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.&quot; ~ Groucho<br />
Marx<br />
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			<title>Thinking of switching back to VZW, some questions</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:59:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Responses are below your questions: 
 
 
"Jeffrey Kaplan" <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in message 
news:itndg5t17p1ln60rvhlca3njopq2tqc2la@gordol.org... 
> Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, "Don Schmidt" <Don 
> Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> said: 
> 
>> C is my add-on for crippled.  I say crippled...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Responses are below your questions:<br />
<br />
<br />
&quot;Jeffrey Kaplan&quot; &lt;nomail@gordol.org&gt; wrote in message<br />
news:itndg5t17p1ln60rvhlca3njopq2tqc2la@gordol.org  ...<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, &quot;Don Schmidt&quot; &lt;Don<br />
&gt; <a href="mailto:Engineer@PNB.Reti">Engineer@PNB.Reti</a>red_1987&gt; said:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; C is my add-on for crippled.  I say crippled because it fails to allow me<br />
&gt;&gt; to<br />
&gt;&gt; use a very important program, Lycrea HP15C in landscape mode. In<br />
&gt;&gt; conversation with the Lycrea Support folks, they tell me the version of<br />
&gt;&gt; Windows Mobile 6.5 in the Imagio is NOT the latest Build and carries the<br />
&gt;&gt; landscape flaw bug.  Chats with the Verizon folks don't give any hope the<br />
&gt;&gt; bug will be fixed.  The Lycrea folks tell me they may put a patch in the<br />
&gt;&gt; HP15C software to overcome the Windows shortcoming.</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Could you expand on this flaw?  Have you contacted HTC about the flaw?</font><br />
<br />
Yes, I've contacted HTC who referes me to Verizon; same with Microsoft.<br />
<br />
When displaying the HP15C calculator landscape display is a copy of an<br />
actual HP15C; in portait display the calculator keys are rearranged to fit<br />
the screen. The program works exceptionally well but causes a bit of<br />
searching for the key wanted.<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; Disappointment II<br />
&gt;&gt; We reside in Vancouver USA (WA - we use USA to avoid confusion with<br />
&gt;&gt; Vancouver BC) and drive over to the Oregon Coast a few times per year for<br />
&gt;&gt; day vacations. The Imagio Weather reporting won't allow programming into<br />
&gt;&gt; the<br />
&gt;&gt; phone any Oregon Coast cities. Cities can be manually selected but like<br />
&gt;&gt; to<br />
&gt;&gt; have one or two Oregon cites on the auto short list.</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Bookmark either i.wund.com or m.wund.com in the web browser.</font><br />
<br />
I'll give this a try; many thanks.<br />
<br />
Don<br />
<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; 'Be glad to answer any questions.</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Thank you, I've been looking for real-world reviews of the Imagio.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; --<br />
&gt; Jeffrey Kaplan                                         <a href="http://www.gordol.org" target="_blank">www.gordol.org</a><br />
&gt; Double ROT13 encoded for your protection<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &quot;Home is important,  It's important to have a home.&quot; - George W. Bush,<br />
&gt; Feb 18, 2001</font><br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[FS: two Blackberry Storm 9530's Excellent]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:08:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[P.S. These phones are available for in-person pickup in the Long 
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Cash only done that way though.  Thanks. 
 
"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message 
news:4b056d64$0$31258$607ed4bc@cv.net... 
> Hi- 
> 
> I...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>P.S. These phones are available for in-person pickup in the Long<br />
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Cash only done that way though.  Thanks.<br />
<br />
&quot;Carl&quot; &lt;crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net&gt; wrote in message<br />
news:4b056d64$0$31258$607ed4bc@cv.net...<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; Hi-<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I have two Blackberry Storms 9530 for sale. They are one year old and are<br />
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&gt; these may not be available. If it's an important deal-maker, I'll get it<br />
&gt; done. The batteries are both in excellent condition. They have had screen<br />
&gt; protectors on them since they were purchased so the underlying screens<br />
&gt; should be unscratched.  These phones work perfectly. We are both<br />
&gt; compulsive about how we take care of our stuff and you'll see that in<br />
&gt; these phones.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; They both come with silicone cases, one is a Verizon version and the other<br />
&gt; is a Body Glove. Unfortunately the Body Glove developed a small tear in<br />
&gt; the back but it does not effect its usefulness. The other case is perfect<br />
&gt; and has a neat design on the back.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The phones come with three (3) BB EOM Desktop Pods for charging and<br />
&gt; syncing. They are wrapped in OEM bubble wrap though they have been used.<br />
&gt; These three Pods alone are worth $90 + tax at a Vz store and at least $65<br />
&gt; if you find them online.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Both phones have been upgraded to the newest 5.0 device software.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; For the curious and/or doubting, we loved these phones and are only<br />
&gt; selling them because we had an excellent upgrade opportunity to Storm 2<br />
&gt; 9550's presented to us by Verizon. Putting aside all cell-phone<br />
&gt; &quot;political&quot; arguments for a moment, these phones are great in our humble<br />
&gt; opinions, especially with the upgraded software, and we're staying with<br />
&gt; them.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I would prefer US Postal Money Orders but can accept Paypal if that helps<br />
&gt; you.  I think $650 is a fair price for the two and I will include US<br />
&gt; Priority Mail to anyone of the 50 states.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Contact me via <a href="mailto:crothmanNOSPAM@NOSPAMoptonline.net">crothmanNOSPAM@NOSPAMoptonline.net</a>. Of course, remove both<br />
&gt; of the NOSPAM's.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Please don't try to spam, scam, or blam me. I will know, and you will be<br />
&gt; wasting both of our times.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Thanks for reading.<br />
&gt;</font><br />
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:07:47 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>BlackBerry Mobile Phone – 8900 Features: 
•	General 2G Network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 
•	Dimensions: 109 x 60 x 13.5mm 
•	Weight: 110gms 
•	Display Type: TFT, 65K Colours 
•	Size: 480 x 360 Pixels, 2.4 inches 
•	Full QWERTY Keyboard 
•	Trackball Navigation 
•	Wallpapers 
•	Ringtones Type:...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>BlackBerry Mobile Phone – 8900 Features:<br />
•	General 2G Network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900<br />
•	Dimensions: 109 x 60 x 13.5mm<br />
•	Weight: 110gms<br />
•	Display Type: TFT, 65K Colours<br />
•	Size: 480 x 360 Pixels, 2.4 inches<br />
•	Full QWERTY Keyboard<br />
•	Trackball Navigation<br />
•	Wallpapers<br />
•	Ringtones Type: Polyphonic, MP3<br />
•	Customization Download<br />
•	Vibration: Yes<br />
•	Memory Phonebook: Yes, PhotoCall<br />
•	Call Records: Yes<br />
•	Card Slot: MicroSD (TransFlash) up to 16GB<br />
•	512Mhz Processor<br />
•	Data: GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 Slots), 32 48kbps<br />
•	HSCSD: Yes<br />
•	EDGE: Class 10, 236.8 kbps<br />
•	3G: No<br />
•	WLAN: Wi-Fi 802.11b/g<br />
•	Bluetooth: Yes, v2.0 with A2DP<br />
•	Infrared Port: No<br />
•	USB: Yes, miniUSB<br />
•	Features: BlackBerry OS<br />
•	Messaging: SMS, MMS, Email &amp; Instant Messaging<br />
•	Browser: HTML<br />
•	Games: Yes + Downloadable<br />
•	Colour: Black<br />
•	Camera: 3.15MP, 2048 x 1536 Pixels, Flash, AutoFocus, Video<br />
•	Built-in GPS<br />
•	GPS function<br />
•	Java<br />
•	Media Player<br />
•	BlackBerry Maps<br />
•	Organizer<br />
•	Calculator<br />
•	Voice Dial<br />
•	Built-in Hands-free<br />
•	Battery: Standard Battery, Li-ion 1400mAh<br />
•	Stand-by Time: Up to 356 hours<br />
•	Talk Time: Up to 5 hours &amp; 30 minutes<br />
•	Unlocked, works on all GSM Networks in India<br />
<br />
For more information on BlackBerry Mobile Phone – 8900 visit-<br />
<a href="http://www.homeshop18.com/shop/u/y/c-Mobiles-Q-and-Q-Accessories-S-PDAs-Q-and-Q-Smartphones/Home_Online-clI_2-cI_943-pCI_910-" target="_blank">http://www.homeshop18.com/shop/u/y/c...I_943-pCI_910-</a><br />
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:00:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[XS11E wrote: 
> The Other Guy <knewskgnus@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> STUPID fucking asshole spammer 
> 
> No need to see Google Groups spam, join the UIP. 
> Follow link in signature for more information. 
> 
 
I didn't know Blinky's site was still up. He's been gone quite a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>XS11E wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; The Other Guy &lt;knewskgnus@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; STUPID fucking asshole spammer</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; No need to see Google Groups spam, join the UIP.<br />
&gt; Follow link in signature for more information.<br />
&gt;</font><br />
<br />
I didn't know Blinky's site was still up. He's been gone quite a while.<br />
Kinda miss him, he was a sweetheart.<br />
<br />
--<br />
Janet Wilder<br />
Way-the-heck-south Texas<br />
Spelling doesn't count.  Cooking does.<br />
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:50:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Nokia N900 specs and features, in-depth review 
http://www.techespot.com/2009/11/nokia-n900-specifications-and-features.html</description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Verizon & Android Phones?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:23:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[At 19 Nov 2009 20:59:03 -0600 Mr.Smith wrote: 
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:36:12 -0800, Pegleg 
> <brian.pegleg.jones@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> >John B. Coarsey, PE <jcoarsey wrote: 
> >> "Mr. Smith" <none@none.net> wrote in message 
> >> news:bcg9g5l08r9hthaj8kp81s8oh1cpei7o6n@4ax.com... 
> >>> On Wed,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>At 19 Nov 2009 20:59:03 -0600 Mr.Smith wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:36:12 -0800, Pegleg<br />
&gt; &lt;brian.pegleg.jones@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt;John B. Coarsey, PE &lt;jcoarsey wrote:<font color="darkred"><br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; &quot;Mr. Smith&quot; &lt;none@none.net&gt; wrote in message<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; news:bcg9g5l08r9hthaj8kp81s8oh1cpei7o6n@4ax.com...<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:23:33 -0800, Pegleg<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;brian.pegleg.jones@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; How bad has VZW screwed-up and crippled the new<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; phones?<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; They can't cripple them.  Android is Open Source and anybody can</font></font></font><br />
make<font color="blue"><font color="green"><font color="darkred"><br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; apps that work on them.<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Care to try again?<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; I will, the question Pegleg asked is a legitimate question.  Verizon</font></font></font><br />
is<font color="blue"><font color="green"><font color="darkred"><br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; famous for crippling phones by disabling features that are normally<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; included. I had a Motorola V3C Razr that was hobbled up that way.</font></font></font><br />
When<font color="blue"><font color="green"><font color="darkred"><br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; considering a $200.00 purchase and a 2 year contract with a now</font></font></font><br />
$350.00 ETF<font color="blue"><font color="green"><font color="darkred"><br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; the question is even more relevent.</font><br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;Thanks...I have heard that VZW did some things to<br />
&gt; &gt;the androids but haven't heard from any owners<br />
&gt; &gt;yet.  Was wondering to what extent they screwed<br />
&gt; &gt;this one up.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;I didn't figure &quot;Mr. Smith's&quot; post was worth<br />
&gt; &gt;replying to since he is obviously not in touch!<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;Brian</font><br />
&gt; More in touch than probably either of you...I have an inside track.<br />
&gt; Nobody can &quot;hobble&quot; a phone that is based on an Open Source OS.</font><br />
<br />
<br />
Tell it to T-Mobile, who had the ability to tether removed from the G1<br />
(the original Android phone.)<br />
<br />
&quot;Open source&quot; might make it easier to to re-add or compensate for the<br />
removed/disabled features, but it won't necessarily stop the cellcos from<br />
trying anyway!<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA['iPhone Does Not, Droid Does' have a weird 24. 5 day bug cycle ;>)]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:51:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[On Nov 19, 12:35*am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com> wrote: 
> At 18 Nov 2009 06:51:34 -0800 Vic wrote: 
> 
> > Verizon Accused of Remote Controlling Droid: Truth Somewhat Stranger 
> 
> > * * * By Charlie Sorrel Wired.com Author 
> > * * * November 18, 2009 *| 
> > * * * 6:39 am *| 
> > *...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>On Nov 19, 12:35*am, Todd Allcock &lt;eleccon...@AnoOspamL.com&gt; wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; At 18 Nov 2009 06:51:34 -0800 Vic wrote:<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; Verizon Accused of Remote Controlling Droid: Truth Somewhat Stranger</font><br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; * * * By Charlie Sorrel Wired.com Author<br />
&gt; &gt; * * * November 18, 2009 *|<br />
&gt; &gt; * * * 6:39 am *|<br />
&gt; &gt; * * * Categories: Phones</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &lt;Snip&gt;<br />
&gt;<font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; * * Am I the only one who thinks that if Apple issued an over-the-air<br />
&gt; &gt; iPhone software update — no notice, no confirmation — that it would<br />
&gt; &gt; generate a Category 5 shit storm?</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Perhaps, but it'd be tempered by the sheer joy that a minor bug could be<br />
&gt; fixed without having to waste an hour or two backing up the device,<br />
&gt; reflashing the entire OS image and restoring all user data like iPhone<br />
&gt; owners seem to have to go therough every couple of months. *3.0 was<br />
&gt; released in July- by October how many minor revisions have been thrown at<br />
&gt; us? *Three? *Four? *<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Certainly the iPhone set the bar higher as to the painlessness of<br />
&gt; upgrading compared to Blackberry and WinMo, but Android and its<br />
&gt; background OTA upgrades knocked that bar into the stratosphere.</font><br />
<br />
What are you talking about?<br />
<br />
That bug hasn't been fixed, as well as a whole lot more.<br />
<br />
<br />
If one can introduce new OS firmware code automatically without your<br />
consent it seems to me the prefect vector for a Russian mob hacker<br />
attack at some time in the near future when enough of these are out<br />
there to make it worth while.<br />
<br />
Apple gives you a choice to upgrade or not. They do not force you to<br />
do anything. You have freedom of choice  with Apple.<br />
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			<dc:creator>Locked into a Droid with BIG RED...$350 will buy your freedom</dc:creator>
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			<title>The iPhone is killing Verizon</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:19:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in 
news:slrnhg7vpm.4c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com: 
 
> On 2009-11-18, Locked into a Droid with BIG RED...$350 will buy your 
> freedom <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> More new customers came to AT&T for the iPhone than the total number 
>> of new...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Dennis Ferguson &lt;dcferguson@pacbell.net&gt; wrote in<br />
news:slrnhg7vpm.4c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; On 2009-11-18, Locked into a Droid with BIG RED...$350 will buy your<br />
&gt; freedom &lt;vic.healey@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; More new customers came to AT&amp;T for the iPhone than the total number<br />
&gt;&gt; of new subscribers gained by Verizon with all handsets during the<br />
&gt;&gt; September quarter.</font><br />
&gt; [...]<font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt;</font></font><br />
<a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/11/17/verizon_rumored_to_embra" target="_blank">http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...mored_to_embra</a><font color="blue"><font color="green"><br />
&gt;&gt; ce_palm_in_2010_to_combat_iphone.html</font><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; For what it is worth the number of subscribers the article claims<br />
&gt; Verizon added last quarter appears no where in Verizon's 10-Q, and<br />
&gt; the number which does appear in Verizon's 10-Q, 1.32 million, while<br />
&gt; not a whole lot better, actually exceeds the number of AT&amp;T iPhone<br />
&gt; customers the article claims were added (1.28 million).  The above<br />
&gt; claim makes a nice quip, but doesn't seem to be true.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; It seems to be the case, however, that AT&amp;T only offers the iPhone<br />
&gt; to retail postpaid customers and AT&amp;T only added 1.39 million of<br />
&gt; those last quarter.  If 1.28 million of those really bought iPhones<br />
&gt; then the rest of AT&amp;T's handset line did a whole lot worse than<br />
&gt; Verizon.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Dennis Ferguson<br />
&gt;</font><br />
<br />
I wonder what the iPhone churn figures look like.  They're sure rippin<br />
off the software heavily....<br />
<a href="http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPhone/iPhone/news.asp?c=16836" target="_blank">http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPhon...ws.asp?c=16836</a><br />
<br />
The Borg has new offerings to slow the iPhone churn:<br />
<a href="http://news.vzw.com/news/2009/01/pr2009-01-23a.html" target="_blank">http://news.vzw.com/news/2009/01/pr2009-01-23a.html</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11603" target="_blank">http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11603</a><br />
<br />
Crazy Nokia is actually working to get the hackers to mod the new N900<br />
phones!  They even have a blog about it!<br />
<a href="http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/index.php/2009/10/31/drum-roll-please/" target="_blank">http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/inde...m-roll-please/</a><br />
<br />
.....even the skaters are hackin' it!<br />
<a href="http://prometoys.net/solderingskaters/" target="_blank">http://prometoys.net/solderingskaters/</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
--<br />
Larry<br />
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			<title>Smartphones: A Bigger Target for Security Threats</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:19:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[At 17 Nov 2009 23:45:18 +0000 Larry wrote: 
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in 
> news:nbDMm.5413$cX4.361@newsfe10.iad: 
> 
 
> > The article was interesting but was a little too sensational.  The 
> > whole vague "(software) that can be downloaded onto a smartphone 
> > without a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>At 17 Nov 2009 23:45:18 +0000 Larry wrote:<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; &quot;Todd Allcock&quot; &lt;elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com&gt; wrote in<br />
&gt; news:nbDMm.5413$cX4.361@newsfe10.iad:<br />
&gt;</font><br />
<font color="blue"><font color="green"><br />
&gt; &gt; The article was interesting but was a little too sensational.  The<br />
&gt; &gt; whole vague &quot;(software) that can be downloaded onto a smartphone<br />
&gt; &gt; without a user's knowledge...&quot; fails to clearly point out the device<br />
&gt; &gt; has to be out of the user's hands and in the possession of the<br />
&gt; &gt; miscreant as well!  Using the same logic, the most secure computer is<br />
&gt; &gt; equally at risk...  ...if the attackers can physically access it, and<br />
&gt; &gt; it isn't protected by a password.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; My phone is rarely out of my reach- I'm not sure who is going to<br />
&gt; &gt; install snooping software on it, and frankly, if they had my phone<br />
&gt; &gt; without my knowledge (and were lucky enough to guess the password to<br />
&gt; &gt; get in) long enough to install the software, why not just harvest the<br />
&gt; &gt; desired data then and there?  It'd be like breaking into my house and<br />
&gt; &gt; only stealing the key so they could break in later!  ;)<br />
&gt; &gt;</font><br />
&gt; Your phone autoupdates via a push service built into it.</font><br />
<br />
Well, my email and PIM data does, anyway.<br />
<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; Remember that software &quot;they&quot; don't want you to run that comes into the<br />
&gt; phone as SMS or email?  I suppose if they can push a game into it, they</font><br />
can<font color="blue"><br />
&gt; push anything into it.</font><br />
<br />
<br />
I would still have to manually execute any program sent to the phone; it<br />
comes in as an attachment.  (And, BTW, just like its desktop counterpart,<br />
Windows Mobile Outlook blocks executable files from being email<br />
attachments- they have to be zipped to be received.)<br />
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